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Hey, Bioinformatics and FreeAsABird.. congrats on your acceptances! You must be very excited and happy! Cya in July!

Whiteprincess... haha... why is everyone quoting me? I didn't know that phrase would become that famous... guess it echoes what everyone goes thru while waiting for the reply. Hope you receive the good news soon! Best of luck!

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Hey whiteprincess and everyone else waiting to hear from Duke-NUS. I just wanted to let you guys know that I just withdrew from my position in this year's intake. I hope that one of you will get it. Best of luck to everyone still waiting to hear some news :thumbup:.

In plain aussie language, CHEERS MATE!

I hope you enjoy whichever city of Australia you decide to study in. (Take the GAMSAT! It's much easier than the MCAT. X10000) The average cut-off for most aussie graduate med schools are 58-60. I had a 64, but darn, I wanna come back to Singapore!

btw, Australia is awesome! (work days starting only at 9am, ending at 5pm sharp...etc) :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
I always thought that the happiest day of my life would be the day my husband-to-be kneels down in front of adoring friends and family, and pulls out a blue box from his coat pocket.

Now, I am sure that the day Duke-NUS sends me an acceptance letter would supercede that.

I will henceforth take BlackTalon's place in this forum.

WILL I GET IN OR WILL I NOT ??????


Why not both? :) Good luck! ;) There is still time.
 
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well i just received my rejection letter but no matter i will improve on my application and try again for 2010. to all those who got in congrats and all the best for school. :thumbup:
 
well i just received my rejection letter but no matter i will improve on my application and try again for 2010. to all those who got in congrats and all the best for school. :thumbup:

Hi Biomd,

Sorry about not being accepted. Hope the next year will reaffirm your passion for medicine and strengthen your app. Hope to see you in 2011!
 
Was waitlisted. Rejected yesterday.
To my best knowledge, the wait list was very very very short.
I believe that they were deciding between me and the other dude.

For anyone planning to apply the next cycle, THIS PROCESS IS HORRIBLE. But if you'd ask me i'll do it all over again! Good thing is, I had feedback, and I know where I'm lacking in. I'll make sure this time they accept me within 2 weeks of my interview.

Magic number is 55 this year. Have a good one guys!
 
Was waitlisted. Rejected yesterday.
To my best knowledge, the wait list was very very very short.
I believe that they were deciding between me and the other dude.

For anyone planning to apply the next cycle, THIS PROCESS IS HORRIBLE. But if you'd ask me i'll do it all over again! Good thing is, I had feedback, and I know where I'm lacking in. I'll make sure this time they accept me within 2 weeks of my interview.

Magic number is 55 this year. Have a good one guys!

Sorry to hear that. Wow, the waitlist IS short. Or perhaps you two were at the top of a longer list and they had to choose one?

Good luck next year!
 
Anyone else still waiting for Duke's results?
 
Hey guys,

Can I ask if you guys have any good resources for MCAT essays to recommend?
Thanks a lot!
 
try getting a mcat guide book they usually provide all the information you need. also for essays make sure to memorise a quote or two as this will dramatically raise your score if you add a quote or two into your two essays
 
Hey guys, i hope someone here will be able to help me :) I'm really hoping on getting into Duke-NUS next year or the year after that and I'm trying to decide between volunteer options. What would be better if you could choose only one? Volunteering at the emergency room of a leading government hospital or being a lab assistant at a leading private hospital?

I would try to find a mentor(researcher or clinician) who genuinely likes you and wants you to succeed. Once you set up a good network you can always get involved.

That aside, it's really up to you if you like clinics or lab. Even if your ER attending is not an academic, you might get involved with someone from other departments who are.
 
Anyone else still waiting for Duke's results?


Are YOU still waiting for a reply? They haven't gave you your status yet!?

Last i heard, they have already decided on the remaining spots. Perhaps your letter/email is on the way!
 
Are YOU still waiting for a reply? They haven't gave you your status yet!?

Last i heard, they have already decided on the remaining spots. Perhaps your letter/email is on the way!

You mean final decision and all letters are out??

Does that mean I'm on the dreaded waiting list?
 
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You mean final decision and all letters are out??

Does that mean I'm on the dreaded waiting list?

I don't know if they have notified the remaining 3 spots, BUT, i think you most definitely are on the waiting list. Two of us got rejected last Friday. So if you haven't heard anything, it's probably good. Keep us updated!
 
Have all the souls who were blessed by a divine light left for the hallowed lands of the Duke-NUS Facebook grp and Google group?

Is there nothing left but a long, lonely line of hopefuls awaiting their turn at the Scales of Truth?

Ok, I'm being waaay over-dramatic.
 
Have all the souls who were blessed by a divine light left for the hallowed lands of the Duke-NUS Facebook grp and Google group?

Is there nothing left but a long, lonely line of hopefuls awaiting their turn at the Scales of Truth?

Ok, I'm being waaay over-dramatic.


YOU? over-dramatic? nooooooooo! :p

i havent disappeared... just trying to keep up with the million and one emails coming from the school and through the google group is keeping me busy... but it is kinda fun to hear from the potential next class already!
 
YOU? over-dramatic? nooooooooo! :p

i havent disappeared... just trying to keep up with the million and one emails coming from the school and through the google group is keeping me busy... but it is kinda fun to hear from the potential next class already!


Ya... i understand. Mostly emails on finding housing, and the meet-up-cum-tour thingy.

You think we need all the books in the booklist? It's kinda a long list. :sleep:
 
Ya... i understand. Mostly emails on finding housing, and the meet-up-cum-tour thingy.

You think we need all the books in the booklist? It's kinda a long list. :sleep:

From what I've heard from my friends who are already in the school we don't really need the basic molecular biology books. I even still have some of them from my undergrad years. But we will need the ones which are more clinical stuff.
 
From what I've heard from my friends who are already in the school we don't really need the basic molecular biology books. I even still have some of them from my undergrad years. But we will need the ones which are more clinical stuff.


Ya but I'm concerned abt the new Team GMS way of learning. Do you think they will tell us to "read xx chapter of xxx book"? If so then we need all the texts...
 
From what I've heard from my friends who are already in the school we don't really need the basic molecular biology books. I even still have some of them from my undergrad years. But we will need the ones which are more clinical stuff.

yeah i have a couple from undergrad... i'm wondering if i should bring them or if i will really need the new versions... but this is the first i'm hearing about not really needing them.. are your friends just focusing on the lectures..?

i'm coming from america, so i'm also trying to figure out if i can find them cheaper on amazon or something and have them shipped to my uncles house there, but i need to start looking then...

so much for no stress relaxation before classes start :rolleyes:
 
yeah i have a couple from undergrad... i'm wondering if i should bring them or if i will really need the new versions... but this is the first i'm hearing about not really needing them.. are your friends just focusing on the lectures..?

i'm coming from america, so i'm also trying to figure out if i can find them cheaper on amazon or something and have them shipped to my uncles house there, but i need to start looking then...

so much for no stress relaxation before classes start :rolleyes:


Well, lucky you. All I have from the list is The Cell by Alberts. Then again.. that's a saving of $120.

Some of my friends in Duke (the US version :p ) advocates not buying any texts except atlases, and relying on lecture notes and board review books. Then again, they are taking the USMLE which we won't. Do you think our curriculum is similar to theirs? Textbook = 1500 pages... review book = 300 ;)
 
yeah i have a couple from undergrad... i'm wondering if i should bring them or if i will really need the new versions... but this is the first i'm hearing about not really needing them.. are your friends just focusing on the lectures..?

i'm coming from america, so i'm also trying to figure out if i can find them cheaper on amazon or something and have them shipped to my uncles house there, but i need to start looking then...

so much for no stress relaxation before classes start :rolleyes:

Hey hey!

I was thinking of getting some of the textbooks on amazon too. they're prob cheaper and more second hand ones available too. thing is, you are currently in the states? Thought we could order our books together and share the shipping fees. ^_^

anyone interested let me know ya!
 
Hey hey!

I was thinking of getting some of the textbooks on amazon too. they're prob cheaper and more second hand ones available too. thing is, you are currently in the states? Thought we could order our books together and share the shipping fees. ^_^

anyone interested let me know ya!

I'd be interested if it's really cheaper to order off Amazon. I would think the bookshop orders in bulk from the distributor so it should be cheaper? Prob now is we don't know which books to get...
 
Hi everyone! I am really interested in the Duke-NUS GMS but I still think my profile is a bit weak still. If anyone can provide some advices, it will be deeply appreciated! :)

I am currently an engineering undergraduate in NUS, approaching Year 3, so I think I will be applying for the Duke-NUS in 2011.:) I am currently doing my 2nd research attachment (each of period of 3 months) at Biopolis, but none of them are explicitly medical related. I am going to do a research project during my final year also. I plan to attach to an engineering company during my industrial attachment semester to diversify my experience. Erm, do you think it's necessary? or should I opt for more research attachment?

BlackTalon has mentioned hospital attachment does help in improving profile and I considering doing so during the December holidays. Do I need to apply early for it?

Besides all these, is there a need for excellent non-academic achievements? I think I'm lacking in this area. :(

I do not have an excellent GPA/CAP score, but I am very motivated to make it more decent for GMS application!

Thank you for ur time!
 
I'd be interested if it's really cheaper to order off Amazon. I would think the bookshop orders in bulk from the distributor so it should be cheaper? Prob now is we don't know which books to get...


Haha, I'm quoting myself! :cool:

Anyway, according to my big sib, lecture notes should be adequate for Molecules & Cells. Textbooks are optional for this course, but those without any molecular bio background might want to get them.

The same cannot be said for Normal Body. Apparently most of the learning will be done from textbooks. He recommended an anatomy atlas and textbook (the standard is Netters or Rohans, BTW) and a physiology text.

For Practise Course, Bates appears to be "essential". The rest are optional.

I suggest everyone contact your big sib, and ask their opinions on the required textbooks and other info about life in school, and share them here with everyone (I prefer here, instead of the Google grp, to keep things casual). Just a suggestion.

We could also organize a mass order for the "essential" textbooks?

On a lighter note, I heard that M&C will not be too hectic, though the first few weeks will be tough until we get used to the workload. Normal Body will be much tougher (I heard 200 textbook pages + lectures in 1 weekend?).

Attire is casual... but formal attire's required for Practice Course.


Cheers,
The Blacktalon (note the "The", with capitals! :laugh:)
 
I am currently an engineering undergraduate in NUS, approaching Year 3, so I think I will be applying for the Duke-NUS in 2011.:) I am currently doing my 2nd research attachment (each of period of 3 months) at Biopolis, but none of them are explicitly medical related. I am going to do a research project during my final year also. I plan to attach to an engineering company during my industrial attachment semester to diversify my experience. Erm, do you think it's necessary? or should I opt for more research attachment?

Hi Mugician... welcome to the group of Duke-NUS hopefuls. You are rather early for next year. :rolleyes:

I'm sure others will give you advice as well, but IMO I would follow my interest and do what is best for my undergrad degree than to "tailor" my activities towards Duke. You might change your mind, after all. My research was in molecular biology and proteomics, which, like almost all basic research, can be relevant to medical research, but is not explicitly medical related. I know of other entrants (from engineering) who didn't do any bio research. In short, med research is not compulsory, and you should do what is best for your decipline. You seem to have a fair bit of research experience, and if it was up to me, I would do the industrial attachment to get a varied experience. IMO med schools tend to look for people with an encompassing view, rather than limiting themselves to a narrow field.

BlackTalon has mentioned hospital attachment does help in improving profile and I considering doing so during the December holidays. Do I need to apply early for it?

Haha, it's amusing to see that everyone quotes me on hospital attachments! :laugh:

I think hospital attachments do improve your profile somewhat, although personally I feel their main purpose is to give you an idea of what you are going into. Medicine is a long road, and is definitely not for anyone. Hospital attachments help you decide if you really want to embark on this journey. Please please don't do it so that you can say you did it in the interview. I think a skilled interviewer would be able to ascertain your motives, and personally, I wouldn't be very impressed if you treat this a box to tick. (no malice intended, I'm juz being frank)

That said, with this H1N1 pandemic, it's difficult to get a hospital attachment. During my attachment at SGH, the whole thing was managed by one person, who was quite flexible with things such as departments and duration, but now, attachments are managed by a department and is much more rigid. You could try any major hospital, but I recommend trying out a few departments if you can to get a holistic experience. 1 or 2 weeks is about right for each. Do apply early. PM me if you have further questions.

Besides all these, is there a need for excellent non-academic achievements? I think I'm lacking in this area. :(

I do not have an excellent GPA/CAP score, but I am very motivated to make it more decent for GMS application!

From what I know, academic achievements are important, but not as much as your character, CCAs, research, leadership, etc. GPA + MCAT simply assures the ADCOM that you can handle the fast-paced curriculum, but your non-academic achievements give them an idea of your motives and how you will be like as a clinician, which is arguably more important.

Thus, the usuals apply... you need to demonstrate aptitude in research, leadership, varied (but passionate) interests, and strong motives for wanting to do medicine. I'm sure you can think of more. No two applications are alike, and you have to figure out how to best showcase your strengths and relate them to how they make you a better clinician.

Good luck! :luck:
 
Hey guys!

Congrats to all of those who recently got in to Duke-NUS!

Unfortunately, I will not be attending Duke-NUS due to financial issues and some doubts I had about the school which made me realize it was not the med school for me. I'm really sad that I won't be hanging out with you all next year because you guys seem like cool, fun people!

Anyway, best of luck to everyone including those applying this year! For those matriculating this year, don't forget to enjoy your summer vacations!!
 
Haha, I'm quoting myself! :cool:

Anyway, according to my big sib, lecture notes should be adequate for Molecules & Cells. Textbooks are optional for this course, but those without any molecular bio background might want to get them.

The same cannot be said for Normal Body. Apparently most of the learning will be done from textbooks. He recommended an anatomy atlas and textbook (the standard is Netters or Rohans, BTW) and a physiology text.

For Practise Course, Bates appears to be "essential". The rest are optional.

I got EXACTLY the same opinion from my big sib. yay consistency. :) i think mass ordering makes sense - too bad we don't have an official booklist for normal body, etc...

anyone know why they want us to borrow the 9th ed Bates from the library instead of just tracking down the 10th ed? i'm going to track down a used copy from a friend, 55 people seems like a lot to be sharing a few library copies if the book is really that important..
 
Thanks BlackTalon for the advices! :D

Although I still do have any engineering job experience, I have seniors and friends who are in the engineering fields describing their experience to me, so I think engineering job is kind of NO-NO to me already. But I will determine my future direction after the Year 3 industrial attachment. I think that a research career is more suitable for me, because I like to try out new things and learn things out of my specialisation. :D

Applying to med school is more of fulfilling my self-actualisation and set a target to work towards to for the remaining 2 years.

I have never thought that a non-medical student can go for hospital attachment until I read this forum. It's never my intention to just improve my admission profile for med school. Even if my direction changes in the next 2 years, I will still attempt for a hospital attachment for coming December. I want to get a diversified experience during my 4 years as a undergrad.
 
I got EXACTLY the same opinion from my big sib. yay consistency. :) i think mass ordering makes sense - too bad we don't have an official booklist for normal body, etc...

anyone know why they want us to borrow the 9th ed Bates from the library instead of just tracking down the 10th ed? i'm going to track down a used copy from a friend, 55 people seems like a lot to be sharing a few library copies if the book is really that important..

LOL, this would be quite amusing if we happen to have the same big sib (don't think that's possible though) :D My big sib just told me to order Netters atlas, an anatomy text (probably netters as well), and a physiology book (He mentioned either Guyton or Ganong). I guess you can ask your big sib for a copy of the booklist. Mine's pretty busy, methinks.

Abt the Bates, I'm wondering the same thing. Perhaps they give you assignments by page (ie. read page x to y) or do questions in the textbook? Speculation of course :(

BTW, what's with the $70 flashlight in the equipment list? :oops:
 
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Thanks BlackTalon for the advices! :D

Although I still do have any engineering job experience, I have seniors and friends who are in the engineering fields describing their experience to me, so I think engineering job is kind of NO-NO to me already. But I will determine my future direction after the Year 3 industrial attachment. I think that a research career is more suitable for me, because I like to try out new things and learn things out of my specialisation. :D

Applying to med school is more of fulfilling my self-actualisation and set a target to work towards to for the remaining 2 years.

I have never thought that a non-medical student can go for hospital attachment until I read this forum. It's never my intention to just improve my admission profile for med school. Even if my direction changes in the next 2 years, I will still attempt for a hospital attachment for coming December. I want to get a diversified experience during my 4 years as a undergrad.

You are quite welcome.

You are not alone... a number of people change courses after graduating. In fact, all of us here are either contemplating, or in the midst of doing so.

Good luck for your app. It's a rather tedious process, so I suggest you start early... perhaps even taking your MCAT during your summer break next year. :thumbup:
 
Hey guys!

Congrats to all of those who recently got in to Duke-NUS!

Unfortunately, I will not be attending Duke-NUS due to financial issues and some doubts I had about the school which made me realize it was not the med school for me. I'm really sad that I won't be hanging out with you all next year because you guys seem like cool, fun people!

Anyway, best of luck to everyone including those applying this year! For those matriculating this year, don't forget to enjoy your summer vacations!!

Hey Channer,

Sorry about the issues preventing you for joining us. Hope you found a suitable alternative? :xf:
 
Hi channer, too bad we won't be classmates but I wish you the best in whichever school that you decide to go to. From your other posts here at SDN I can see that you have a few possible options.

Hi Mugician, I think BlackTalon has given you a very good advice. Just do whatever you like and enjoy doing it. Because if you really like it, you'll then be able to talk about it sincerely and enthusiastically to the Admission Committee.

For the booklist, I can see that some of them are being sold by a lot of our seniors as "Excellent - Brand New - Untouched". I guess we can safely skip them hehe.

I have no idea how $70 penlight looks like BlackTalon, except for those huge Mag-Lites hehehe. My guess is that it'll be the ones with pupil size gauge on the barrel.
 
I have no idea how $70 penlight looks like BlackTalon, except for those huge Mag-Lites hehehe. My guess is that it'll be the ones with pupil size gauge on the barrel.


So it's basically a glorified ruler cum penlight? I was thinking it's the diagnostic kit, but apparently it isn't.

Well, how abt the mass order for textbooks?
 
Hey Channer,

Sorry about the issues preventing you for joining us. Hope you found a suitable alternative? :xf:

Thanks bioinfo and Blacktalon. Yeah, I'm currently deciding between a school in Australia and a school in Canada. Maybe i'll come back for an elective? :)

Good luck with your prep for school! Not long now!
 
Hey guys....sorry for bumping this post, but I'm just done with my MCAT's and have a bunch of study materials to sell off.

Anyone who wants to buy, pm me. Attached are the books that I have for selling.

Thanks a bunch and good luck to all.:thumbup:

Btw...can sell only within Singapore. :laugh:

Shadowking
 

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When did you take the mcat?

Hey guys....sorry for bumping this post, but I'm just done with my MCAT's and have a bunch of study materials to sell off.

Anyone who wants to buy, pm me. Attached are the books that I have for selling.

Thanks a bunch and good luck to all.:thumbup:

Btw...can sell only within Singapore. :laugh:

Shadowking
 
When did you take the mcat?
April 18th...results were not high, but as expected. Had to juggle work and studying for the mcat...wasn't easy. Anyway I've decided not to apply to Duke-NUS. Couldn't get in anyway, not with my results :p.
 
Hi Mugician, I think BlackTalon has given you a very good advice. Just do whatever you like and enjoy doing it. Because if you really like it, you'll then be able to talk about it sincerely and enthusiastically to the Admission Committee.

Thanks for the comments.

Although I'm doing something that I do not really enjoy at the moment, but I can manage to go through it and hopefully graduate with a decent result :(

However, I do enjoy the research I have done in the past few years.
 
Hello. It's my first time to post here, though I have been lurking around for a long time. Haha. And you guys are really helpful. Thank you. :)

Basically, what are they looking for in an applicant? I'd like to work on my weaknesses while there's time. :) I really want to study medicine at NUS. Wish us (applicants) luck! :xf:

Thank you! :D
 
Does anyone have any advice for when is the latest I could apply yet still be in good running?

And, has anyone applied yet?
 
Does anyone have any advice for when is the latest I could apply yet still be in good running?

And, has anyone applied yet?


Last year I submitted my primary application on October 15th and things seemed to move pretty quickly (I got an interview invite 4 days later, followed by the secondary app). My application was complete by the first week of November. I think their earliest interview date in Singapore last year was Nov. 20th but the US interviews are a bit earlier in the month. I think if you submit everything my mid-to-late October you should be good to go - I might submit a bit earlier if you are hoping to interview in the US.

Good luck!
 
Totally unexpected...I got into Queensland. Got the letter on Saturday...it was pretty emotional. Now my problem is the $$$. Anyone know if I can apply for Aus PR before I go to Aus? Cos the cost is much less for PR's. I have a civil engin background with 2 yrs work experience. I would really appreciate any advice.
 
hey there mugician!

I'm currently studying in dublin, Year 2. I've always wanted to do med but parents weren't financially sound to help me out. So, I'm currently doing econs and finance. But when i do some self-reflection, I always have this burning passion to study med. I was thinking if I can do a shadowing programme here in singapore to gain some insights on the life of a physician. How to go about applying for it? Please enlighten me! Thank you! I'm singaporean anyway=D
 
Hey, anyone taking the mcat rest of August?
 
Hi BlackTalon, A quick query to you..you have any idea what would be the sort of remuneration that a DUKE NUS Student would get after internship during the commitment bond period?
 
I just heard about this Duke-NUS program today for the first time.

I'm confused. Is the application pool made up of typical pre-med students? Or are there a lot of people who have not taken the pre-med pre-req's who are applying? (admissions criteria says you only need a bachelor's and MCAT score).

Is this program attracting applicants who don't like their chances with traditional American allo schools?

Is the "perk" of this program that it is easier to get admitted? Or perhaps w/o the pre-req's, younger applicants are attracted to it because they can simply start sooner?

Are there other similar programs (collaborations with American and foreign universities) as such?
 
Hi BlackTalon, A quick query to you..you have any idea what would be the sort of remuneration that a DUKE NUS Student would get after internship during the commitment bond period?


Hi sorry for the late reply... things are very hectic and will get more so.

I'm not sure how to answer your question actually. Duke graduates will enter into a new system similar to the US residency, unlike the usual MBBS system here. Things have not been finalized.

In the MBBS system, HO (interns) are paid around $2800, 1st yr MO $3200, but I would expect slightly more since we are postgraduate med students.

Since the pioneer batch just started their 4th yr, you'd have to wait another year for definite answers!


Cheers..
 
I just heard about this Duke-NUS program today for the first time.

I'm confused. Is the application pool made up of typical pre-med students? Or are there a lot of people who have not taken the pre-med pre-req's who are applying? (admissions criteria says you only need a bachelor's and MCAT score).

Is this program attracting applicants who don't like their chances with traditional American allo schools?

Is the "perk" of this program that it is easier to get admitted? Or perhaps w/o the pre-req's, younger applicants are attracted to it because they can simply start sooner?

Are there other similar programs (collaborations with American and foreign universities) as such?

Hi

Well, unlike Duke-Durham, half the cohort here are Singaporean and the other are comprised with people from all over the world, most of whom do not enter a "pre-med" programme like in the US. The vast majority of Singaporeans would have some pre-college Bio and Chem. It would be pretty hard not to be exposed to some Bio and Chem in any science-based degree course, and the MCAT does give an indication of an applicant's academic proficiency in science. Again, the vast majority of the class are science majors (and most are bio majors).

I don't think this programme AIMS to attract people who feel they cannot enter the US allo schools. The school itself is unique, and the curriculum and structure of learning are first of their kind in the world. Therefore I'd like to think that the school attracts a certain subset of people. The uniqueness of the school is the main perk, IMO. Of course, the brand new building doesn't hurt either, and SGH is one of the best teaching hospitals here.

Cheers...
 
Totally unexpected...I got into Queensland. Got the letter on Saturday...it was pretty emotional. Now my problem is the $$$. Anyone know if I can apply for Aus PR before I go to Aus? Cos the cost is much less for PR's. I have a civil engin background with 2 yrs work experience. I would really appreciate any advice.

Be careful, if you go in medical school as an international student and got PR later. The medical school may kick you out if they have no space for a domestic student.
 
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