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For the additional information essay, do we have to write a paragraph because the only thing I addressed is I have a grade now for one of the courses i just completed.
If you do not have anything substantial to add that hasn't already been said, then I would be inclined to leave it blank. From what I hear people reading apps appreciate brevity and not throwing in something just for the sake of it.

I think a grades update could be addressed by just e-mailing the admissions office with the update and transcript. In my mind an additional information essay is more big picture than updating one grade. But, I could be wrong, and I don't think your idea would be detrimental in any way.

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If you do not have anything substantial to add that hasn't already been said, then I would be inclined to leave it blank. From what I hear people reading apps appreciate brevity and not throwing in something just for the sake of it.

I think a grades update could be addressed by just e-mailing the admissions office with the update and transcript. In my mind an additional information essay is more big picture than updating one grade. But, I could be wrong, and I don't think your idea would be detrimental in any way.
I thought to leave it blank as well, but since it didn’t say optional like the COVID-19 essay, I figured it would look bad if I left it blank
 
I thought to leave it blank as well, but since it didn’t say optional like the COVID-19 essay, I figured it would look bad if I left it blank
Hmmm... I think usually Additional Information Essays are optional (seems kind of implied in the name). However, if it doesn't say optional, you might want to double check.

I DID fill out the additional Information Essay for MIZZOU, but I also left it blank for other schools depending on what I had covered in the other secondary prompts. But, for MIZZOU I did fill it out, so I don't want to say, "Yeah, no worries, leave it blank," and then they were expecting something you know?! Maybe double check with admissions to confirm it's optional. I would guess it is, though.
 
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Complete 9/14. Now I wait.
 
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If you fill out the OOS form and get a secondary are you basically on an even playing field as someone that is IS? I know that they are heavily IS biased, but I know that they are also very selective on who they send a secondary to that is OOS.
 
If you fill out the OOS form and get a secondary are you basically on an even playing field as someone that is IS? I know that they are heavily IS biased, but I know that they are also very selective on who they send a secondary to that is OOS.
I doubt that would be the case, they accept much more IS (85% according to their website) than OOS. So even if they gave equal amounts of secondaries to OOS as they are IS applicants, the odds are heavily against us.
 
OOS form submitted on 8/28 was just approved!

I doubt that would be the case, they accept much more IS (85% according to their website) than OOS. So even if they gave equal amounts of secondaries to OOS as they are IS applicants, the odds are heavily against us.
This is what somebody from the school emailed me: “After your OOS form is complete your state of residency is no longer factored into your admissions decision.”
Maybe they accept more because very few OOS are approved in the first place?
 
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OOS form submitted on 8/28 was just approved!


This is what somebody from the school emailed me: “After your OOS form is complete your state of residency is no longer factored into your admissions decision.”
Maybe they accept more because very few OOS are approved in the first place?

Thats awesome!!
 
That's what I was wondering, they filter very heavily through OOS applicants before sending secondaries.
 
IS - II today 9/23/20!!!
 
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Did anyone get a rejection email stating they didn't meet Mizzou's minimum requirements for a secondary (3.0+) but actually did????

I don't mind a rejection (even if it's my alma mater...), but I don't appreciate the rejection being because I didn't meet a certain "cut-off" when I actually did.
 
Did anyone get a rejection email stating they didn't meet Mizzou's minimum requirements for a secondary (3.0+) but actually did????

I don't mind a rejection (even if it's my alma mater...), but I don't appreciate the rejection being because I didn't meet a certain "cut-off" when I actually did.
I'd email them asap. They made a mistake with my OOS form but were very good at letting me know it was a mistake after I emailed them.
 
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M3 here.

A little late to the party but if you have any questions about clinicals or the like HMU.

Good luck to those applying.
 
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M3 here.

A little late to the party but if you have any questions about clinicals or the like HMU.

Good luck to those applying.

Could you talk more about the PBL curriculum and what the group activities are like? Are there a lot of opportunities for community outreach in Columbia?
 
Has anyone that got an II yesterday been able to reach them on the phone to schedule their interview date? I called the number and left a message yesterday afternoon but still haven't heard back yet.
 
Has anyone interviewed here yet? If so how was your experience with the interview and zoom overall?
 
Has anyone interviewed here yet? If so how was your experience with the interview and zoom overall?

I interviewed recently. It was an enjoyable experience. They did well as they could with Zoom. Some presentations then back to back interviews just like your packet outlines. It wasn't too bad/weird being on Zoom. It sucks to not see the school in person but it is what it is.
 
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Got an email saying my app is complete and in screening. How long is the wait for II from here?
 
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Could you talk more about the PBL curriculum and what the group activities are like? Are there a lot of opportunities for community outreach in Columbia?

M1 year you'll have PBL M/W/F for 3/3/4 hours. On Monday you are presented the case. You'll create "student objectives" based on material that you don't understand. For your first case it will probably be a WHOLE lot of lab values and such. On Wednesday you present your objectives, usually a ~10 minute powerpoint presentation talking about e.g. the components of a CMP or CBC. You get more info on the case on Wednesday and then a list of "faculty objectives" which are just as they sound - the material the faculty wants you to gather from that case. You present this info on Friday along with breakfast/brunch that the quarterback (leader) for the week brings in.

M2 year PBL is T/TH. You only do "student objectives". There are no "faculty objectives" given out... officially. Some facilitators will either show you the sheet with the objectives or just review your student objectives and make sure you are on the right path. Usually by block 3 (3rd quarter of M1 year) you've gotten pretty good at deducing what is important and your student objectives usually line up well with the faculty objectives. There have been occasional times when M2 student objectives are WAY off track from what the faculty objectives are but they have been working in recent years to make sure that doesn't happen.

As for outreach, there is a lot. We have a student run clinic called "MedZou" that is every Thursday with specaility clinics (derm, neuro, psych, LGBQT clinic) occurring monthly. COVID has kinda screwed with the schedule but we are still doing the clinic as best we can. There are also other opportunities through different student interest groups, such as prevention clinics (BP & blood sugar) for the community, educational events for school kids, and a recently added service learning requirment during the last part of M1 year.
 
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Rejected pre-secondary a couple of days ago. OOS, strong ties to the state, LM 75 WARS 80

Whaaat!? I'm sorry to hear. You sound like a lovely candidate. I hope you find your place. ❤️
 
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Could you talk more about the PBL curriculum and what the group activities are like? Are there a lot of opportunities for community outreach in Columbia?

I can also add on this as a current M1. The PBL curriculum is just like Monkitty talked about. On M/W, you have a lecture from 8-9 and then PBL from 9-12. On Mondays, you create "student objectives," which you present on Wednesday before starting the next half of the case. In my experience, as I just started Block 2 this morning, we've gotten progressively better at creating student objectives that align with faculty objectives. Monkitty is also right regarding the initial cases in block 1, because our first couple of cases were learning lab values, what abnormalities meant, etc.

For Wednesdays, the case is typically finished up and comes to an end. You're given a sheet of faculty objectives, which is information the faculty wants you to take away from each case. Usually, in the beginning, you'll find these are more in-depth and quite specific compared to the student objectives you created on Monday. However, the information you learn from student objectives on Mondays can be quite valuable as the faculty objectives might not focus on those pieces of information. Still, you might need that information to interpret later cases, and often times you're expected to know that information anyways regardless if it was a faculty objective or not. For example, there might not be a specific FO about interpreting a CMP; however, by focusing on how to interpret those values and abnormalities in a Monday objective, it will set you up to be successful and delay making further objectives about CMPs as the cases go on. You present these faculty objectives on Friday to your PBL group.

Fridays are usually reserved for presentations on faculty objectives from 8am-11am and then a "case wrap-up" meeting where a specialist or physician familiar with that diagnosis presents how they'd approach an actual patient who presents similarly to the one in the case. It's actually very insightful and interesting, and I enjoy them quite a bit. Lastly, Tuesdays and Thursdays are reserved for either lecture from 8am-12pm OR anatomy lab dissections from 8am-12pm.

With COVID, the group dynamic has been weird as your typical 8 person PBL group is split between two labs, and you discuss via Zoom. One of the issues I've noticed is that side conversations can be overwhelming and cumbersome. However, it's hard to minimize those conversations because they're a critical part of learning throughout PBL. I wonder if we'll ever see a movement back to an 8 person room for PBL before I finish M2, but it looks unlikely. However, I've still found that my lab group from Block 1 got along really well, and we learned how to navigate through those issues, which led to an incredibly successful team dynamic as we finished the final weeks.

Each case has a quarterback, scribe, dictionarion, and objectifier who play critical roles to ensure all pertinent information is recorded, the group is kept on track, and objectives are created that are relevant to the gaps in your knowledge. The facilitator for each PBL case jumps between rooms every week, due to COVID, so whichever room the facilitator is in determines which room has those PBL roles that week. You can learn more about these roles during the interview process :) Based on my initial impressions and worries with how COVID would impact PBL and group dynamics, I'm impressed with how Mizzou has handled it.

Regarding community outreach, there are a ton of opportunities to get involved. I can't begin to describe the countless emails I get each week to help volunteer with local food pantries, soup kitchens, MedZou's clinic, assisting with immunizations, etc. Mizzou has a wide variety of paths you can take to give back and reach out to local community members throughout your time in med school.
 
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Whaaat!? I'm sorry to hear. You sound like a lovely candidate. I hope you find your place. ❤

Thank you so much! You're so kind! I'm still pretty disappointed, but I know they have great candidates. Most of my family lives in MO, so I hope they get some great future docs from this incoming class ;)
 
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II just now. Complete 7/30. IS. LM ~72. Scheduling end of October/early November
 
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Does anyone know whether the interview at Mizzou is open or closed file?
 
Submitted secondary here yesterday. OOS. I kind had given up on getting a secondary but I was pleasantly surprised.
Does anyone know whether the interview at Mizzou is open or closed file?
Open file according to post #82 of the thread (MSAR) but I haven't personally interviewed.
 
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Submitted secondary here yesterday. OOS. I kind had given up on getting a secondary but I was pleasantly surprised.

Open file according to post #82 of the thread (MSAR) but I haven't personally interviewed.
What's open/closed file interview? Never heard this before so excuse my ignorance
 
What's open/closed file interview? Never heard this before so excuse my ignorance
Open ( 99% sure but someone can correct me if I'm wrong) means they have access to your entire application including MCAT, GPA, and activities. They have access to your entire application (primary and secondary) so they will ask specific questions about your application. In closed file, the interviewers do not have your app and have very limited information on you so they would ask more open-ended questions like "tell me about yourself" and "why medicine" etc.
 
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Open ( 99% sure but someone can correct me if I'm wrong) means they have access to your entire application including MCAT, GPA, and activities. They have access to your entire application (primary and secondary) so they will ask specific questions about your application. In closed file, the interviewers do not have your app and have very limited information on you so they would ask more open-ended questions like "tell me about yourself" and "why medicine" etc.

You're correct! Mizzou does an open-file interview unless they changed it this year without my knowledge. When I interviewed, both interviewers had my application in front of them, and they asked clarifying questions and elaborative questions about experiences, grades, scores, etc. listed in my application. There were also your typical interview questions such as "tell me about yourself" or "why us?" or "why did you decide to enter medicine right after graduating undergrad?"
 
Open ( 99% sure but someone can correct me if I'm wrong) means they have access to your entire application including MCAT, GPA, and activities. They have access to your entire application (primary and secondary) so they will ask specific questions about your application. In closed file, the interviewers do not have your app and have very limited information on you so they would ask more open-ended questions like "tell me about yourself" and "why medicine" etc.
yes
 
You're correct! Mizzou does an open-file interview unless they changed it this year without my knowledge. When I interviewed, both interviewers had my application in front of them, and they asked clarifying questions and elaborative questions about experiences, grades, scores, etc. listed in my application. There were also your typical interview questions such as "tell me about yourself" or "why us?" or "why did you decide to enter medicine right after graduating undergrad?"
I recently completed my interview with MIZZOU this cycle, and it is still open-file. Both of my interviewers asked about experiences on my AMCAS and about things from my personal statement and secondary essays. I was not asked any questions about grades or MCAT. I assume they were able to see those, but they only asked me about Essays and Work/Experiences.
 
I recently completed my interview with MIZZOU this cycle, and it is still open-file. Both of my interviewers asked about experiences on my AMCAS and about things from my personal statement and secondary essays. I was not asked any questions about grades or MCAT. I assume they were able to see those, but they only asked me about Essays and Work/Experiences.

Ah, okay. I’m glad to hear it’s still open-file and primarily based on your experiences and essays. However, I also think it’s also best to be prepared for a question about a grade or your MCAT score. At my interview, I distinctly remember them asking about why my MCAT score was what it was, and whether I would have done anything differently regarding my approach to studying? For reference, my MCAT wasn’t what you consider “low,” so it was a bit of a surprise. I think it differs between who interviews you and what they find important to ask about.
 
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You're correct! Mizzou does an open-file interview unless they changed it this year without my knowledge. When I interviewed, both interviewers had my application in front of them, and they asked clarifying questions and elaborative questions about experiences, grades, scores, etc. listed in my application. There were also your typical interview questions such as "tell me about yourself" or "why us?" or "why did you decide to enter medicine right after graduating undergrad?"
Thanks for the explanation! Still waiting for II but now I know what to expect when my time comes.
 
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Fortunate and thankful!! Got the ACCEPTANCE phone call yesterday! IS, ORM, complete late-July, interviewed early-October. My one-and-only in-state school said YES! (my pre-reqs are too old for UMKC, MIZZOU's way better anyway!) Yay!
 
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I apologize if this has been asked already, but does MU historically send II to OOS applicants later in the cycle?
 
Fortunate and thankful!! Got the ACCEPTANCE phone call yesterday! IS, ORM, complete late-July, interviewed early-October. My one-and-only in-state school said YES! (my pre-reqs are too old for UMKC, MIZZOU's way better anyway!) Yay!

Congrats! I thought they only would send it out at the end of each month so that must’ve been a great surprise!
 
Congrats! I thought they only would send it out at the end of each month so that must’ve been a great surprise!
It was a great surprise. That's what I thought too. On my interview day, they said they would send out post-interview application status updates at the end of each month.
 
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Have any post-secondary applicants been rejected yet?
No rejection but no word from MU for me. I am a pretty mediocre applicant though. Still, I was hoping my state school would give me a second look!
 
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On their website MD (only) applicant interview time frame is from Oct. - March so don't lose hope yall
No rejection but no word from MU for me. I am a pretty mediocre applicant though. Still, I was hoping my state school would give me a second look!
 
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Are both interviews an hour long? Do they last this entire time?
 
Are both interviews an hour long? Do they last this entire time?
Sample Interview Schedule
  • 11:00 a.m. – Meet the Admissions Representative
  • 11:30 a.m. – Meet the Financial Aid Coordinator
  • 12:00 p.m. – Ambassador Panel and Video Tour of the Medical School
  • 1:15 p.m. – Interview with Admissions Committee Member
  • 2:15 p.m. – Interview with Admissions Committee Member
  • 3:15 p.m. – Interview Wrap-Up
  • 3:45 p.m. – Interview Day Concludes
 
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