2009-2010 University of Rochester Application Thread

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I'm joining the WL party!!:laugh::laugh: Where's da booze??

I'm really surprised at the quick turnaround, I interviewed 13 days ago and there's a decision already!!! :thumbup::thumbup:

So WL > reject, so that's some consolation. I'll send an LOI and see where the cards eventually fall. Either way, I have been most fortunate this cycle and I'll count my blessings notwithstanding URMC's ultimate decision....

Quick question, is the WL a silent reject if you don't get off it or do they review the WL @ some point then reject most people on it?

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I'm joining the WL party!!:laugh::laugh: Where's da booze??

I'm really surprised at the quick turnaround, I interviewed 13 days ago and there's a decision already!!! :thumbup::thumbup:

So WL > reject, so that's some consolation. I'll send an LOI and see where the cards eventually fall. Either way, I have been most fortunate this cycle and I'll count my blessings notwithstanding URMC's ultimate decision....

Quick question, is the WL a silent reject if you don't get off it or do they review the WL @ some point then reject most people on it?

It sounds like you might be in a similar position as me. I have several acceptances, but in reality I would rather go to one of the schools that Wait Listed me. I wonder if that's how it usually happens?

It feels kind of dumb writing LOIs when I already have an acceptance, but I figure it is worth it if I can get in to one of my top choice med schools in the end.

And as for me, I decided that at a certain point (mid July probably), if I am not in yet off the Wait List, I will just give up. I would feel bad enough telling a school that I am backing out so late in the summer, but I wouldn't want to add to that the stress of backing out of a signed apartment lease and finding somewhere to live in a totally different city.

I would hope that if I had no chance of getting in off the wait list, they would tell me at some point, but I bet they don't do that until pretty late into the summer, if at all.
 
There sure are a lot of waitlists, I think I will pull out, definitely don't want to make last minute changes to moving plans and stuff even if I get off. Plus, it just feels weird to get off a waitlist, kinda like if someone didn't think you were good enough in the beginning but use you as a last resort...
 
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So I finally got the waitlist email today and it started off with:

Good day!!

Um you're waitlisting me, it's not really a good day :(
 
Plus, it just feels weird to get off a waitlist, kinda like if someone didn't think you were good enough in the beginning but use you as a last resort...

There's no shame in coming off a waitlist. The fact that you didn't get in straightaways could be because you interviewed too late and most of the spots were filled or you didn't connect very well with an interviewer just by the bad luck of being paired with someone who didn't mesh with you. Its really no reflection upon you or your abilities. Also, no one will really care if you got in off the waitlist as it is a normal thing to do. If you really like a school, go for it and sign up for the waitlist instead of worrying that the school didn't like you enough to bother.
 
Well, in case you didn't know, the Rochester WL does have some movement, but I don't think they rank applicants in any way, shape, or form.

I know a guy who is a first year who was put on the WL and didn't hear ANYTHING from them for months. One call from his PI to the dean and within 24 hours he got "the good news..."

UR likes their own to an extent, but who knows how they end up deciding who to call when. The good news is that it's one of those schools that is great, but not quite as good as the other schools/offers a good number of the accepted have otherwise.

Hang in there and :luck:!

(and if you know someone on the inside, even twice removed...)
 
Well, in case you didn't know, the Rochester WL does have some movement, but I don't think they rank applicants in any way, shape, or form.

I know a guy who is a first year who was put on the WL and didn't hear ANYTHING from them for months. One call from his PI to the dean and within 24 hours he got "the good news..."

UR likes their own to an extent, but who knows how they end up deciding who to call when. The good news is that it's one of those schools that is great, but not quite as good as the other schools/offers a good number of the accepted have otherwise.

Hang in there and :luck:!

(and if you know someone on the inside, even twice removed...)

I've also heard stories of people who know people in the Med Center\School getting off the waitlist with a single call. Either way, I don't suppose it hurts to send those letters.
 
I've also heard stories of people who know people in the Med Center\School getting off the waitlist with a single call. Either way, I don't suppose it hurts to send those letters.

Agreed. Do what you can to get yourself off the WL and into the next 4 years.
 
I already have a few acceptances and some other waitlists. I will try to weed these down over the next few months (once I get financial info) so I only have 1 acceptance and maybe 3 Waitlists. However, I am wondering how much the admissions office can see (do they see acceptances AND waitlists) and how big a factor that would be on their decision to accept me off the waitlist.
 
I already have a few acceptances and some other waitlists. I will try to weed these down over the next few months (once I get financial info) so I only have 1 acceptance and maybe 3 Waitlists. However, I am wondering how much the admissions office can see (do they see acceptances AND waitlists) and how big a factor that would be on their decision to accept me off the waitlist.

I know they can see acceptances (after May 1, maybe? I can't remember from 2 years ago) but I'm not sure about WLs (probably not). I don't see any of it affecting whether you will be pulled from a WL or not... if they want someone and notice they've been accepted to 5 schools, they will still want them. They wouldn't go through the list and be like oh, so and so hasn't been accepted anywhere... lets accept them to be nice. It's all who they feel deserves it and if the one who deserves it has lots of acceptances already, so be it.
 
For those of you wondering about WL procedures, when a spot becomes available, they actually review entire applications and grant spots to those they feel are the most qualified (at least that's what I was told on my interview day). As for turnaround time, they are very fast. I interviewed and had my acceptance 13 days later as well (I think I was the day after you Bernoull). I hope this info helps and good luck to everyone on the WL. Don't give up! :)

I'm joining the WL party!!:laugh::laugh: Where's da booze??

I'm really surprised at the quick turnaround, I interviewed 13 days ago and there's a decision already!!! :thumbup::thumbup:

So WL > reject, so that's some consolation. I'll send an LOI and see where the cards eventually fall. Either way, I have been most fortunate this cycle and I'll count my blessings notwithstanding URMC's ultimate decision....

Quick question, is the WL a silent reject if you don't get off it or do they review the WL @ some point then reject most people on it?
 
So who is excited for 2nd Look Weekend? I know I am! I just got the 2nd Look email today. It is scheduled for Apr. 16-17, and it looks like they have a bunch of great activities lined up. I am getting excited.:)
 
So who is excited for 2nd Look Weekend? I know I am! I just got the 2nd Look email today. It is scheduled for Apr. 16-17, and it looks like they have a bunch of great activities lined up. I am getting excited.:)

Yeah I'm pretty psyched, although less so that we have to be there thursday evening since I'll have to miss class (gotta love required attendance...). But getting to learn sutures and intubation? awesome!!
 
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It seems like lately everyone who has posted has been Wait Listed...Do you think that those of us who interviewed in January or later may have been Wait listed because they had given out most or all of their acceptance spots already? And that they might have found us to be very qualified but just had no spots?
 
It seems like lately everyone who has posted has been Wait Listed...Do you think that those of us who interviewed in January or later may have been Wait listed because they had given out most or all of their acceptance spots already? And that they might have found us to be very qualified but just had no spots?

From the trend that I've seen, it does seem increasingly hard to get an acceptance, but I think there were a couple of people on SDN that interviewed in Jan or later with acceptances. Rochester has a pretty small class and they also have affiliated SMP programs with Johns Hopkins and Bryn Mawr I think, plus with their combined B.S./M.D. program from undergrad, they have to be careful with straight acceptances so not to over accept, which probably explains why so many of us are waitlisted. But I think as a result, there will be a fair amount of waitlist movement, just speculating though.
 
From the trend that I've seen, it does seem increasingly hard to get an acceptance, but I think there were a couple of people on SDN that interviewed in Jan or later with acceptances. Rochester has a pretty small class and they also have affiliated SMP programs with Johns Hopkins and Bryn Mawr I think, plus with their combined B.S./M.D. program from undergrad, they have to be careful with straight acceptances so not to over accept, which probably explains why so many of us are waitlisted. But I think as a result, there will be a fair amount of waitlist movement, just speculating though.

I would guess this is probably the case at every school as you get closer to their interview deadline. However, its hard to say how much difference it really makes, since I remember them specifically saying that you would be considered against the same standard regardless of interview time, so who knows. As far as bs/md, the current MSAR says that they gave out 7 of their 282 acceptances for that. If you look back on page 12 they talk about how many people on sdn moved of the WL here last year (3), but I also wouldn't exactly consider the sample here comprehensive, so hopefully there will be a lot more. good luck, hopefully I see ya there this fall!
 
I would guess this is probably the case at every school as you get closer to their interview deadline. However, its hard to say how much difference it really makes, since I remember them specifically saying that you would be considered against the same standard regardless of interview time, so who knows. As far as bs/md, the current MSAR says that they gave out 7 of their 282 acceptances for that. If you look back on page 12 they talk about how many people on sdn moved of the WL here last year (3), but I also wouldn't exactly consider the sample here comprehensive, so hopefully there will be a lot more. good luck, hopefully I see ya there this fall!
Here is the direct quote from an email we (people working at the URMC) received regarding to the profile of class 2013:
"Among our special matriculation programs, 9 of you entered under our Bryn Mawr or Associated Medical Schools of New York Post-Baccalaureate Programs, 11 are part of our Rochester Early Medical Scholars Program, 5 are part of our Early Assurance Program, and 6 are MD/PhD matriculants in our Medical Scientist Training Program. You will be joined by 2 medical students who have already completed their first 2 years of training. 1 of you deferred admission for one year and now join your class."

That is a big chunk in a class size of 104.
 
For the waitlisted who still want to remain under consideration, did you just sent a simple email expressing ur desire to remain under consideration or did u send an LOI?

Thx
 
It seems like lately everyone who has posted has been Wait Listed...Do you think that those of us who interviewed in January or later may have been Wait listed because they had given out most or all of their acceptance spots already? And that they might have found us to be very qualified but just had no spots?

It does get harder to get a seat as the season progresses. However, I interviewed in early February and was accepted, so the class was not completely filled (I know of 1 other person this happened to as well). The good news is that there is movement on the WL from what I've been told. How much movement is another question though.
 
For the waitlisted who still want to remain under consideration, did you just sent a simple email expressing ur desire to remain under consideration or did u send an LOI?

Thx

I just sent a quick email response to the waitlist email and they responded a few minutes later confirming.
 
Has there been any wait list movement yet? I know it's early, but I'm really curious about it
 
Has there been any wait list movement yet? I know it's early, but I'm really curious about it

Granted I know nothing about how things are moving this year, in the past, there were maybe a handful of acceptances pre-May 15ish (or whatever that magic date is) w/ most movement happening after that date.

:luck::luck::luck::luck:
 
Granted I know nothing about how things are moving this year, in the past, there were maybe a handful of acceptances pre-May 15ish (or whatever that magic date is) w/ most movement happening after that date.

:luck::luck::luck::luck:

Thanks that's good to know :thumbup:
 
fyi, bryn mawr just had 6 acceptances into rochester.

And UR post-bac just had at least 2. Out of 2 who applied there. Not sure about the application status of at least 1 other person though.
 
FYI, an article sent through the University of Rochester system that might interest those getting ready for UR.

New Dean Dr. Mark Taubman Ready for Challenge, Change

Mark Taubman, M.D.The former chair of the Department of Medicine, Mark Taubman, M.D., served as Acting CEO of the Medical Center for nine months after Bradford Berk, M.D., Ph.D., suffered a serious spinal cord injury. As of March 1, when Berk returned to his full-time post as CEO, Taubman became the School of Medicine and Dentistry’s 10th dean and remains a pivotal member of Berk’s leadership team. Pulse sat down with Taubman to discuss his vision for the School – and the challenges that lay before it.

Pulse: Has nine months as URMC’s Acting CEO changed your perspective of the institution?

Taubman: It’s shown me so much, giving me a bird’s eye view of the many challenges the health care industry, and academic medical centers in particular, are facing. We’re at a point where sweeping reform and changes in the way health care is reimbursed will force us to examine our existing practice models. There’s a good chance that the way we’re currently working simply won’t make sense in this new age in health care.

Pulse: What else might change?

Taubman: Well, let’s start with the big industry buzzword: quality. Our performance on various benchmarks will become more and more public. Patients (rightly so) are being empowered to be better consumers, and our compensation, in part, is becoming tied to how well we perform. While these transparency trends still seem somewhat novel to those of us who’ve been practicing for years, for new students and residents, “pay for performance” is going to be second nature. It’ll color their whole careers. We need to find ways to approach quality improvement academically – both in the sense that it’s infused into our curriculum, and also in the way we proactively innovate and study and report care improvement efforts.

Pulse: Speaking of compensation, let’s face the elephant in the room: our Medical School’s deficit. How do you begin to approach that?

Taubman: There are a few important things to keep in mind. The first is that, in a way, the deficit is a child of our success. What I mean is that, while we can boast about the extraordinary growth in our research funding (just this year alone, our rank in NIH funding has increased from 24th to 21st), researchers lose thirty cents on every dollar under the best of circumstances – and the School’s endowment and the hospital’s margin can’t be expected shore up the difference, especially in today’s economy.

That said, we certainly want to move forward on our research strategic plan. Our recent successes and the growth of the research enterprise have made us even more attractive to investigators around the country. However, we will need a multi-pronged approach to allow us to move forward. Part of that solution, we hope, will flow out of our Clinical and Translational Science Institute. We anticipate it will create a fertile environment that encourages commercialization of scientific advances into intellectual property, royalties, and perhaps even start-up companies.

We’ll also need to better engage our alumni, to secure more philanthropy, to encourage investigators to maximize their funding (applying for multiple grants), and to be creative with how we can reduce costs, share resources, and ultimately work more efficiently.

Pulse: It sounds like there’s a lot on your plate.

Taubman: Yes, but I’m not alone, and I certainly won’t make decisions in a vacuum. There will be lots of input from colleagues, and I’m going to take time, at first, observing things.

Pulse: Are you beginning to notice trends that will challenge medical education?

Taubman: Yes. One is that, as the aging population faces a shortage of primary care physicians in the coming years, we in Rochester feel a special obligation to make sure we’re not only training tomorrow’s scientists and specialists, but its PCPs, too. And then, after training them, we’ll need to try to retain some of them regionally – we’ll need them.

Also, in a faster-paced age where patient records are becoming digitized and more portable, we’ll need to make sure that technology helps us offer care that’s more interactive and relational – not less so. We need to train another generation of physicians who can carefully tune-in to patients’ needs, even as the world moves quickly around them.

A formal investiture for Taubman will take place this spring.
 
Just FYI - the matches this year were fantastic!

Yes, this was an awesome year. I am super psyched about where I am going and I really believe UR was a huge part of me getting my first choice.

Anesthesia- 5
URMC
MGH
Penn
Cornell
Stanford

Dermatology- 4
Emory
Northwestern
Brown
Wash U

EM- 2
URMC x2

ENT- 3
Hopkins
Nebraska
Mayo

Family Medicine-8
Swedish Medical Center
URMC x2
UNM x2
St. Mary's Hospital
Ft. Collins
Baylor

General Surgery- 6
URMC x2
Pitt
Guthrie/Robert Packer Hospital
UT Houston
Maryland
URMC (Prelim)

Internal Medicine- 18
Michigan
Minnesota
Vanderbilt
Mt. Sinai NYC
Duke x2
URMC x3
Utah
Pitt
Cornell
UTSW
Michigan
Military-San Antonio
Yale x2
Hopkins

Med/Peds- 6
URMC x3
Indiana
WVU
Albany

Neurology- 4
Cornell
URMC x2
UVa

Neurosurgery- 1
Duke

OB/GYN- 4
Yale
Minnesota
Brigham and Women's
UC Davis

Ophthalmology- 8
UC Irvine
Oklahoma
URMC
Bascom Palmer @ Miami
Wills @ Jefferson
Arizona
UTMB
Louisville

Pathology- 1
UVa

Pediatrics- 11
CHOP
Walter Reed
Mayo
Columbia
Yale
Dartmouth
Wisconsin
Baylor (Medical Genetics/Peds)
Duke
URMC

Pediatric Neurology- 1
Wash U

PMR- 1
U Washington

Plastic Surgery- 2
Georgetown x2

Psychiatry- 2
MUSC
Emory

Radiology- 2
Mt. Sinai NYC
Northwestern

Urology- 1
UC Davis
 
It has been a difficult decision, but I am almost certain that I will be withdrawing my acceptance from U of Rochester. I hope someone that really wants to come here gets my spot.
 
Has anyone heard anything about financial aid or scholarships yet?
 
Has anyone heard anything about financial aid or scholarships yet?

Also wondering this. I called last week and they said they were getting them together and sending them out but I still haven't received anything.
 
I got my letter in the mail yesterday. No COA breakdown or EFC explicitly given.

Yeah, I got mine since I posted that too. It's strange that they didn't post that stuff. Does U of R give any merit scholarships or all just need-based?
 
Yeah, I got mine since I posted that too. It's strange that they didn't post that stuff. Does U of R give any merit scholarships or all just need-based?

I believe that U of R gives all need-based scholarship.

So what does your packet include? Loans and nothing else?
 
I believe that U of R gives all need-based scholarship.

So what does your packet include? Loans and nothing else?

Yep. Didn't qualify for need-based scholarships.
 
Anyone on the wait list here planning on withdrawing? (because that would be super... :))
 
Just withdrew from the wait list! Good luck to everyone still waiting!
 
How's the financial aid looking at this school?
mine wasnt too bad i mean relatively to what else ive gotten. that said i think it's pricier to go here to start with.
 
just sent in my withdrawal. hopefully that means a spot for someone here on the wl. good luck!
 
If anyone has any last minute questions before the deadline to officially accept/decline, let me know!
 
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