Elizabeth Raine Auction

[PL198]

I really don't understand how it reflects poorly on the home institution or the profession. It was a,personal decision that was made by an individual. This person could have been in any profession or any med school, but just happened to be in the medical profession at her particular school. Don't get why the students are in a suppossed uproar.

People make poor decisions - I don't think it reflects poorly on her school or the medical profession. It does reflect poorly on her sure, but no way am Igoing to generalize that to her institution and the med profession.

I mean this is common from any person that comprises any body. Like the Duke girl that is a porn star. See that sentence? We just connected Duke and porn, that's certainly not beneficial in public image. Same thing, "oh that University of Washington medical student was the one trying to sell her virginity?" or " oh yeah University of Washington, isn't that the school where the "virgin *****" was a student of?" Same thing with sports. Obviously they literally don't represent the institution, but you still have connections made and people don't like that.

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[CherryRedDracul]

I mean this is common from any person that comprises any body. Like the Duke girl that is a porn star. See that sentence? We just connected Duke and porn, that's certainly not beneficial in public image. Same thing, "oh that University of Washington medical student was the one trying to sell her virginity?" or " oh yeah University of Washington, isn't that the school where the "virgin *****" was a student of?" Same thing with sports. Obviously they literally don't represent the institution, but you still have connections made and people don't like that.

Whenever I hear Duke, three things immediately come to mind: (1) basketball; (2) porn; and (3) lacrosse rape scandal. I would argue that only one of them holds Duke in a positive light.

 

[PL198]

Whenever I hear Duke, three things immediately come to mind: (1) basketball; (2) porn; and (3) lacrosse rape scandal. I would argue that only one of them holds Duke in a positive light.

Boom the bromance continues

 

[Priapism4tooLong]

I think the professors and clinical faculty at the University of Washington would disagree with you.

haha you are probably right, i had no idea she went to UOW. They are probably gonna kick her out.

Anyway whats with the new avatar?. Is that some new way of applying steroid creams?

 

[Anastomoses]

Boom the bromance continues

you're never gonna be first. he's got bromances from here to kingdom come.

 

[FIREitUP]

I'm not sure why I feel the need to correct your figures, but I was in SF 1.5 year ago and offered $300 by a random short gross Chinese guy while I was waiting at a red light to cross the street. His follow-up when I asked wtf he was smokin on was "I'm lonely". Sad. I guess when girls are lonely they just put up with douchebag boyfriends. Apparently it's common for girls on that same strip to get $500 to $800 for an hour. and they aren't virgins in med school or bioengineering.

i wonder what percent of your posts have the words "creep", "weirdo", "gross" or "stalker" in them?

 

[Anastomoses]

i wonder what percent of your posts have the words "creep", "weirdo", "gross" or "stalker" in them?

Me and my limited vocabulary. I wonder how it is you haven't made my ignore list yet. When I see you all I think is...that guy who doesn't know the insertion of the sartorius.

 

[FIREitUP]

Me and my limited vocabulary. I wonder how it is you haven't made my ignore list yet. When I see you all I think is...that guy who doesn't know the insertion of the sartorius.

i'm sure it's extensive. because everyone is annoying and horrible except you.

 

[Anastomoses]

i'm sure it's extensive.

My vocabulary or my ignore list? They're both gargantuan, I don't mind admitting.

 

[CherryRedDracul]

Me and my limited vocabulary. I wonder how it is you haven't made my ignore list yet. When I see you all I think is...that guy who doesn't know the insertion of the sartorius.

Sartorius is that muscle you use to look at the sole of your shoe after you've stepped in ****, right?

 

[colbgw02]

Whenever I hear Duke, three things immediately come to mind: (1) basketball; (2) porn; and (3) lacrosse rape scandal. I would argue that only one of them holds Duke in a positive light.

Hey, I hate Duke basketball as much as anybody, but you really shouldn't lump it in with the lacr...












Or was that already the joke?

 

[mizzu]

So is stripping an offense med schools can kick you out for?

I personally don't see much difference between porn and prostitution (and stripping for that matter)

 

[touchpause13]

You are less likely to get caught stripping.

 

[Nasrudin]

So is stripping an offense med schools can kick you out for?

I personally don't see much difference between porn and prostitution (and stripping for that matter)

I don't either. What about about massage. Or acting. Or music. The giving of pleasure for money makes them all more similar than not. Which is why prostitution or stripping doesn't alarm me or rally me to some professionalism banner. I remain stolidly in the camp of advising stealth when approaching the domain of other people's self-righteous morality systems.

Med schools are full of uptight people who are sadists when it comes to enjoying the punishment of the unruly and the unrighteous and worst of all the unprofessional. Knowing this is a common sense test. Have unruly proclivities while not knowing it at your peril.

Ms. Raine failed the common sense exam 101. And will likely learn the lesson harshly I'm afraid, before this sad tale is over.

 

[mizzu]

You are less likely to get caught stripping.

Good - I will keep that in mind when I see my tuition bill.

 

[Anastomoses]

I don't either. What about about massage. Or acting. Or music. The giving of pleasure for money makes them all more similar than not. Which is why prostitution or stripping doesn't alarm me or rally me to some professionalism banner. I remain stolidly in the camp of advising stealth when approaching the domain of other people's self-righteous morality systems.

It's my strong belief that these lines are not as arbitrary as you attempt to paint them. And while religions or culture could be responsible for some of the strong feelings, I see a distinct difference between massaging someone with the intention to release tension or pain; or standing on a stage with no discernment wiggling booty to get random penises stiff. No, nothing?

 

[sobored]

It's my strong belief that these lines are not as arbitrary as you attempt to paint them. And while religions or culture could be responsible for some of the strong feelings, I see a distinct difference between massaging someone with the intention to release tension or pain; or standing on a stage with no discernment wiggling booty to get random penises stiff. No, nothing?

Yeah...one involves way more touching than the other...

 

[Nasrudin]

It's my strong belief that these lines are not as arbitrary as you attempt to paint them. And while religions or culture could be responsible for some of the strong feelings, I see a distinct difference between massaging someone with the intention to release tension or pain; or standing on a stage with no discernment wiggling booty to get random penises stiff. No, nothing?

You reveal your ignorance of such matters. Had you the experience you would doubtless have observed that the penises attached to larger wallets are most likely to get the most attention in these establishments. Thus there is very little that is random about it. Anyone interested in using the causation of erection does it poorly if applied randomly. Including yourself, by your professed pickiness for such things.

And the lines are anything but as I paint them or they would exist only for unconsenting adults or children. Which I tried to convey is most certainly not the case in medical school or in medicine more widely. Also, were in you in the know with regard to the pain of unrelenting and unsatiated erection or of the crushing loneliness of being an unf@ckable male, you might not be so frivolous and callous in your judgments of these honorable professions.

I consider the *****, in some cases, a more honorable professional than most out there. That's not to disparage massage therapy, but to elevate it in kind.

 

[Anastomoses]

You reveal your ignorance of such matters. Had you the experience you would doubtless have observed that the penises attached to larger wallets are most likely to get the most attention in these establishments. Thus there is very little that is random about it. Anyone interested in using the causation of erection does it poorly if applied randomly. Including yourself, by your professed pickiness for such things.

And the lines are anything but as I paint them or they would exist only for unconsenting adults or children. Which I tried to convey is most certainly not the case in medical school or in medicine more widely. Also, were in you in the know with regard to the pain of unrelenting and unsatiated erection or of the crushing loneliness of being an unf@ckable male, you might not be so frivolous and callous in your judgments of these honorable professions.

I consider the *****, in some cases, a more honorable professional than most out there. That's not to disparage massage therapy, but to elevate it in kind.

Sometimes you talk way too in the air with vague emotions that have no pragmatic meaning. Let's try to dissect your paragraphs.
1. You feel I'm ignorant on the exchange of sexuality and money. The penises that get more effort in causing their stiffness in a strip club/porn/prostitution are attached to larger wallets aka more money and hence you define this as "not random penis". You suggest this is discernment on the part of the "*****" or stripper?

2a. I don't understand the first sentence at all. You'll need to use more concrete terms when you elaborate on an expression like "paint broad strokes" or "lines as I paint".
2b. This entire paragraph is almost like you're skipping sentences that only you can hear and typing intermittent thoughts. You do this sometimes.
2c. Separate new thoughts into new paragraphs - it helps you and your audience to grasp your point. But to the point - you believe the unrelenting unsatiated erection and pain of loneliness is such that it gives honor to professions which offer sex for money - is that correct? And that there is a category of male which is so unf*ckable that he can't find someone in his league or jack off, also correct?

3. Still see nothing in common with a massage therapist.

 

[username456789]

You reveal your ignorance of such matters. Had you the experience you would doubtless have observed that the penises attached to larger wallets are most likely to get the most attention in these establishments. Thus there is very little that is random about it. Anyone interested in using the causation of erection does it poorly if applied randomly. Including yourself, by your professed pickiness for such things.

And the lines are anything but as I paint them or they would exist only for unconsenting adults or children. Which I tried to convey is most certainly not the case in medical school or in medicine more widely. Also, were in you in the know with regard to the pain of unrelenting and unsatiated erection or of the crushing loneliness of being an unf@ckable male, you might not be so frivolous and callous in your judgments of these honorable professions.

I consider the *****, in some cases, a more honorable professional than most out there. That's not to disparage massage therapy, but to elevate it in kind.

Do you LARP?

 

[Nasrudin]

Do you LARP?

No. But I've been listening to the game of thrones audiobooks for weeks on end now. So...yes.

 

[touchpause13]

No. But I've been listening to the game of thrones audiobooks for weeks on end now. So...yes.

No spoilers

 

[Nasrudin]

Sometimes you talk way too in the air with vague emotions that have no pragmatic meaning. Let's try to dissect your paragraphs.
1. You feel I'm ignorant on the exchange of sexuality and money. The penises that get more effort in causing their stiffness in a strip club/porn/prostitution are attached to larger wallets aka more money and hence you define this as "not random penis". You suggest this is discernment on the part of the "*****" or stripper?

2a. I don't understand the first sentence at all. You'll need to use more concrete terms when you elaborate on an expression like "paint broad strokes" or "lines as I paint".
2b. This entire paragraph is almost like you're skipping sentences that only you can hear and typing intermittent thoughts. You do this sometimes.
2c. Separate new thoughts into new paragraphs - it helps you and your audience to grasp your point. But to the point - you believe the unrelenting unsatiated erection and pain of loneliness is such that it gives honor to professions which offer sex for money - is that correct? And that there is a category of male which is so unf*ckable that he can't find someone in his league or jack off, also correct?

3. Still see nothing in common with a massage therapist.

Yeah I agree I do that. And sometimes it causes me confusion when I get misinterpreted.

But you understood me perfectly, so, we just disagree about the similarities. I can only say with certainty I love getting a massage. But only from women. And even though I go to them with medical intent and prefer those therapeutic skills rather than those involved in happy endings there is some sexual feelings that come out of it. For me, at least. So that I don't see much difference from my end. Knowing myself, if I was a massage therapist and I was attracted to my client then there would inevitably by some sexual communication to my therapy that wouldn't arise to impropriety unless provoked explicitly.

This is what I'm getting at. We are all involved in constant sexual communications. That some of us turn coin on it, or that some surf the gray area between innuendo and act, is all similar to me.

 

[Anastomoses]

Yeah I agree I do that. And sometimes it causes me confusion when I get misinterpreted.

But you understood me perfectly, so, we just disagree about the similarities. I can only say with certainty I love getting a massage. But only from women. And even though I go to them with medical intent and prefer those therapeutic skills rather than those involved in happy endings there is some sexual feelings that come out of it. For me, at least. So that I don't see much difference from my end. Knowing myself, if I was a massage therapist and I was attracted to my client then there would inevitably by some sexual communication to my therapy that wouldn't arise to impropriety unless provoked explicitly.

This is what I'm getting at. We are all involved in constant sexual communications. That some of us turn coin on it, or that some surf the gray area between innuendo and act, is all similar to me.

The problem is that it actually took concerted effort to dissect.

1. Clearly while I think it's smarter to get 801K for a one time sex romp with some unappealing thing you wouldn't otherwise touch than to take off your clothes every night while heinous men ogle and you rub against them while muting your own disgust for a few hundred bucks - it doesn't change that the exchange is a poor experience. Swallowing feces is still swallowing feces - regardless if you get paid handsomely. Worth it? Well, obviously for some.

I get that your desire to believe this is harmless is entrenched in some belief that some men really really need this so it's not icky. Ok. Sure.

2. I suppose it's possible that some are not as talented or ethical about compartmentalizing inappropriate feelings. When I'm getting a massage, it would be a mild transgression if I'm allowing myself to feel aroused (that's not what I paid for and that's not what the therapist has signed up for). If I were the therapist, I'd accept that some clients with poor boundaries is one of the incidental drawbacks of the job. If I'm attracted to my client, I'd focus on technical aspects of the massage and avoid indulging in personal pleasure. Otherwise, decline the massage and ask him out for coffee.

Perhaps your sexuality (and probably many others) is fluidly lapsing into your communication with patients and your interactions with grocery clerks - hoping to misperceive a beaming smile and "have a good day sir". I think there's a large number of us with strong distinctions about who and what we want in that special sexual space. And maybe that's where the miscommunication occurs - for us we find it absurd that you'd try to meld it all together.

 

[Nasrudin]

The problem is that it actually took concerted effort to dissect.

1. Clearly while I think it's smarter to get 801K for a one time sex romp with some unappealing thing you wouldn't otherwise touch than to take off your clothes every night while heinous men ogle and you rub against them while muting your own disgust for a few hundred bucks - it doesn't change that the exchange is a poor experience. Swallowing feces is still swallowing feces - regardless if you get paid handsomely. Worth it? Well, obviously for some.

I get that your desire to believe this is harmless is entrenched in some belief that some men really really need this so it's not icky. Ok. Sure.

2. I suppose it's possible that some are not as talented or ethical about compartmentalizing inappropriate feelings. When I'm getting a massage, it would be a mild transgression if I'm allowing myself to feel aroused (that's not what I paid for and that's not what the therapist has signed up for). If I were the therapist, I'd accept that some clients with poor boundaries is one of the incidental drawbacks of the job. If I'm attracted to my client, I'd focus on technical aspects of the massage and avoid indulging in personal pleasure. Otherwise, decline the massage and ask him out for coffee.

Perhaps your sexuality (and probably many others) is fluidly lapsing into your communication with patients and your interactions with grocery clerks - hoping to misperceive a beaming smile and "have a good day sir". I think there's a large number of us with strong distinctions about who and what we want in that special sexual space. And maybe that's where the miscommunication occurs - for us we find it absurd that you'd try to meld it all together.

I think you probably overestimate the distinction in your own mind. All the research that I've seen links us to these instinctive processes whether we would like it to or not. I am perfectly restrained and professional I assure you. And I think recognizing the influence of these things would make me less likely to err and misplace them for other more imagined cognitive processes.

This is what underlies the phenomenon of why we think attractive people are nicer, smarter, more talented etc. Or why these things influence our clerkship grades among other falsely objective measures.

Anyway, enough about me and you. We don't fit the billing of the thread. Which I only meant to indicate was sad and foolish more than it is shameful.

 

[Mt Kilimanjaro]

Student ID pics look a little different than those airbrushed shots on her website...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...revealed-really-backed-auction-virginity.html

Her dad is rich. It's easier to take stupid risks in such situations.

 

[Priapism4tooLong]

if someone was going to spend 800k on a girl for one night, why on earth would they spend it on her???

 

[deathville]

Does anyone know what the fallback of this was? What happened to her?

 

[DermViser]

Does anyone know what the fallback of this was? What happened to her?

You mean fallout. I doubt she has a fallback position (pun intended)

 

[deathville]

Yeah. But still. Did she get kicked out of med school? Is she gonna have any luck finding a residency position? Did she lose her virginity yet? THESE ARE QUESTIONS WE MUST KNOW

 

[Arkangeloid]

I hope she suffers horribly for her crimes. If not in this world, then in the next.


She disrespected our profession at a time when we are in a near-existential crisis.

 

[DermViser]

I hope she suffers horribly for her crimes. If not in this world, then in the next.

She disrespected our profession at a time when we are in a near-existential crisis.

Oh, give me a break. Don't get me wrong - she unnecessarily put her career in jeopardy for absolutely no reason, but she hardly is someone who should "suffer horribly for her crimes", Mullah Arkangeloid.

 

[evilbooyaa]

Not sure what happened. I forgot about this, tbh.

 

[touchpause13]

This makes me even more convinced that Ark is a troll

 

[DermViser]

This makes me even more convinced that Ark is a troll

Or just a misogynist.

 

[touchpause13]

Or just a misogynist.

I thought that was a given.

But why bump THIS thread out of nowhere except to rustle jimmies?

 

[DermViser]

I thought that was a given.

But why bump THIS thread out of nowhere except to rustle jimmies?

You'll have to ask deathville.