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UCLA, via snail mail. Do people still say snail mail? It sounds so late-90's now.
I say it, but I'm old
UCLA, via snail mail. Do people still say snail mail? It sounds so late-90's now.
Finally got the UCLA rejection!
Dude, I had a nutella crepe today. Sooo good! That eased the pain of Vandy.
lol DrVN...we seem to be getting all the same rejections on the same days. sigh i could definitely use a nutella crepe or three. i would prefer a fri night rejection over sat morning...blissfully unaware >>>> hungover and angry
oh man, my nutella jar is gonna get pretty empty if i eat some every time i get rejected!
Thought my hangover couldn't get any worse till I got this rejection... at least i'm in good company
UPenn...not surprised though but still distressing.
UPenn. I was hoping to get an interview, but oh well. Still waiting to hear back from some big name schools (MGH, BID, B&W, Hopkins). I have a feeling those are all going to be rejections, too. I just hope they let me know soon so I can start making travel arrangements to my other places.
Sorry to hear man. First one definitely sucks. Hopefully it will be your only one
So what is everyone's current status? I'm waiting on 18 schools and am hoping that 2 of them are interviews.
Sorry to hear man. First one definitely sucks. Hopefully it will be your only one
So what is everyone's current status? I'm waiting on 18 schools and am hoping that 2 of them are interviews.
Have you tried the Goobers with Chocolate and PB? You seem like the type of guy who may enjoy that!
I'm still waiting on 19 programs. I feel like the Noreply fun is over!
Hate to say it but if Penn said no, don't hold your breath on the rest. Mass Gen has a big intern class so mayne wait on that one but the rest of the top programs will be a no.
Probably true in general, but I got penn's rejection the same time I got BWH's interview this AM. I'm from cali though so I think that's one strike against me from the start.
Brigham has a slightly larger intern class than Mass Gen. (70 to 64). The big difference is that MGH interviews twice as many as BWH. (500 to 250).Hate to say it but if Penn said no, don't hold your breath on the rest. Mass Gen has a big intern class so mayne wait on that one but the rest of the top programs will be a no.
UCSD(couple weeks ago). UPENN, and UW today..
So most of my rejections have said something along the lines of "due to the high volume of competitive candidates this year we are unfortunately able to interview view everyone." Something they say every year? or is IM just getting more and more competitive every year?
UCSD(couple weeks ago). UPENN, and UW today..
So most of my rejections have said something along the lines of "due to the high volume of competitive candidates this year we are unfortunately able to interview view everyone." Something they say every year? or is IM just getting more and more competitive every year?
I know that my med school had a near tripling in the number of students going into IM this year from last. I thought this was isolated, but folks I've met on the interview trail from other places have also said they've seen increases (granted, not of the same magnitude) at their programs. At least anecdotal evidence of more applicants and thus more competition.
My school almost doubled the number going into IM (30 vs 52) this year compared with last year. I don't know what's up with the sudden interest in IM... maybe more kids are being attracted to hospital medicine? And it makes sense, since shift work is the new hotness, and I much rather have 7 on 7 off than random hours in the ED.
Brigham has a slightly larger intern class than Mass Gen. (70 to 64). The big difference is that MGH interviews twice as many as BWH. (500 to 250).
We ~doubled according to the Chairman at my school.
I'm still waiting on 19 programs. I feel like the Noreply fun is over!
Here is what I am waiting on:
Assuming a rejection: MGH, BWH, JHU, UCSF Columbia
Slight hope due to location: Duke, WashU, Michigan
Medium hope: Pitt, UTSW, BIDMC, Cornell, UChicago, MSSM
Hoping that I have a shot: NYU, BostonU, OHSU, Colorado
Chairman at my school thought I was insane in applying to 40+ programs. I am definitely glad I did!
EDIT: To be fair to the program, it's better than saying the alternative, "Who were you kidding thinking you were competitive enough for this program loser?"
Another question
So if we haven't received a rejection yet to places that traditionally send out rejections,
is it safe to assume we've been wait listed for spots that may open up from cancellations?
Do places like Emory, Wash U, Columbia and Cornell send out rejections?
Jeez, so basically out of the three anecdotes we have here, we got tripled, doubled, and doubled. This isn't looking good for us applicants...
10 last year.. Mid 20s this year
we have about the same number of IM applicants this year as most...but our residency program has received over twice as many applications :/
Yea, from guys like us. It's all a zero sum game though. I wonder what other specialties are seeing less applicants due to this strange outburst of medicine applicants this year. EM? Radiology? Anesthesia? Gen surgery, perhaps?
I don't know about the others but definitely not Gen Surg. The program at my institution got ~1000 apps for 12 spots this year. They generally interview about 150 people. Their first pass ERAS filter was Step 1>250 and AOA...they got almost 200 apps out of that. They didn't even bother to hand curate after that...they just invited those people and are going from there.
I don't know about the others but definitely not Gen Surg. The program at my institution got ~1000 apps for 12 spots this year. They generally interview about 150 people. Their first pass ERAS filter was Step 1>250 and AOA...they got almost 200 apps out of that. They didn't even bother to hand curate after that...they just invited those people and are going from there.
That is just effing ridiculous. Residency work hours making gen surg more appealing these days?
At my school, Family has seen is HUGE increase in number apparently. What was once an IMG friendly program is flooded with US apps. More IMGs and DOs are saturating a lot of the community/mid-tier programs as well with huge step 1s.
I'm not trying to be cocky or anything, but I thought I had a good chance to land in my top 20. I haven't received one interview from them lol. Oh well, I am just thankful that I have a nice set of interviews lined up.
Why do you think there will be a more difficult job market for non-fellowship trained surgeons? The job market isn't dictated by the specifics of residency training structures. As long as there is the same influx of general surgeons yearly (given the same efflux from retirement), then the job market should be stable... unless you think that specialty surgery will continue to usurp more of the bread and butter of true general surgery. But, that's a different discussion altogether.Gen Surg got way more competitive in 2005 when the 30h work week went into effect. That was kind of the sweet spot for surgery. It made the training relatively humane while still allowing for a reasonable amount of OR time.
The new changes are, quite frankly, going to be bad for surgery in the long run. I think it's going to make for a lot of pseudo-pyramid programs again. Places will work hard to fill their prelim spots since they're going to need them to cover night float. But the juniors and seniors are going to need to bust hump and (probably) lie about hours in order to get the numbers they need to be decent solo surgeons. You're not going to see an increase in training length but you're going to see a much more difficult job market for non-fellowship trained surgeons.
Brigham has a slightly larger intern class than Mass Gen. (70 to 64). The big difference is that MGH interviews twice as many as BWH. (500 to 250).
I't on Freida. I remembered from last year but I checked Freida again before I posted.Where do you find the number of interviews given? I looked on Frieda and didn't see it.
Why do you think there will be a more difficult job market for non-fellowship trained surgeons? The job market isn't dictated by the specifics of residency training structures. As long as there is the same influx of general surgeons yearly (given the same efflux from retirement), then the job market should be stable... unless you think that specialty surgery will continue to usurp more of the bread and butter of true general surgery. But, that's a different discussion altogether.
I't on Freida. I remembered from last year but I checked Freida again before I posted.