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[plepand12]

How long does UTSW take to process LORs from TMDSAS? My committee letter was processed by TMDSAS on 7/29 but my LOR status at UTSW is still incomplete.

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[supusenor]

My TMDSAS application was transmitted last Thursday evening/Friday morning, but as of today I still haven't received their secondary invite yet... Meanwhile I got invites from all the other schools on Friday morning, and a friend said that they got it within/after a day... Has this happened to anyone else? I checked my spam box and trash, but nothing was there.

 

[premedtomedstudentjourney]

My TMDSAS application was transmitted last Thursday evening/Friday morning, but as of today I still haven't received their secondary invite yet... Meanwhile I got invites from all the other schools on Friday morning, and a friend said that they got it within/after a day... Has this happened to anyone else? I checked my spam box and trash, but nothing was there.

Yeah I think they have a little delay to process apps now. Happened to me as well but got it I think a few days later.

 

[bumney]

Just received an II! This is my top choice so I am ecstatic

edit - LM 77, complete 6/30

 

[Chitaku]

Interview invite received as well!

 

[Havelock Vetinari]

Just received an II! This is my top choice so I am ecstatic

II received as well!

 

[Lawlify]

II received!!! Super excited!!!!

 

[Photon2419]

for those that got II CONGRATS!!! yall wanna drop stats & submission times & etc.?

 

[cornelder]

for those that got II CONGRATS!!! yall wanna drop stats & submission times & etc.?

Like 90% sure it was the auto invite since I submitted mine less than a week ago.

 

[BrandNewDanimal]

Anyone OOS get an II?

 

[Photon2419]

Like 90% sure it was the auto invite since I submitted mine less than a week ago.

But mine was 518/3.92 (tmdsas cgpa)

nice work! you deserve it!

 

[premedtomedstudentjourney]

well i submitted two weeks ago with similar stats and didn't get an interview so pretty confused

 

[cornelder]

well i submitted two weeks ago with similar stats and didn't get an interview so pretty confused

Was talking to a friend and actually I retract my statement, it might not be. Or at least it's in waves. Because he submitted way earlier than me, has better stats across the board, and his application is probably better than mine. Or maybe they just flipped a coin.

 

[ferocas]

II Received IS!

4.0 (tmdsas)/522, Complete 7/28!

 

[premedtomedstudentjourney]

Was talking to a friend and actually I retract my statement, it might not be. Or at least it's in waves. Because he submitted way earlier than me, has better stats across the board, and his application is probably better than mine. Or maybe they just flipped a coin.

And they got an interview or didn't get an interview?

 

[srk2442]

So I specifically addressed my academic discrepancies in my TMDSAS optional essay. Should I leave the secondary essay blank/write a small blurb about how I already covered this/rewrite the essay slightly differently even though it'll essentially be the same?

From what I've heard, I would say that you don't need to write about it again because they'll read about it in the primaries anyway

 

[rustymuffin]

Is it possible that yesterday's wave of interviews is related to their Group 1/Group 2 system?

 

[SolidDoc]

Is it possible that yesterday's wave of interviews is related to their Group 1/Group 2 system?

I would think it might be, but who knows honestly. From what I saw, the people who got IIs (and ofc Im not speaking for everyone who got IIs just from what I've observed), they had super high MCATs and GPAs. Some people who submitted this past week and weekend got that II and had high stats, so its a possibility for sure.

 

[texasvandy]

https://www.utsouthwestern.edu/assets/policies/edu-119-appendix-a-medical-school.pdf

https://www.txhes.com/_resources/docs/stats/ey19/MCAT-GPA-Matrix-EY19.pdf

People with the best stats are invited early on, in some cases before their file is complete with recommendations.

As you can see for 2019, there were only 85 applicants with a 4.0 and over 521 and only 37 matriculated. These are the cream of the crop of Texas applicants. My guess is many of the the rest either went to Baylor or OOS.

 

[Skittsie13]

Can any current students or admin/professors comment on Southwestern's curriculum?

I really liked the flipped classroom at Dell and can see that Southwestern has a team-based learning center along with some active learning opportunities.

Does Southwestern also used flipped classroom? I am also wondering how much time is spent doing more passive learning (lectures) versus active learning opportunities.

Hi! MS4 here. The curriculum is primarily lecture-based (not a flipped classroom) but there are multiple "active" learning experiences weekly (PBL and TBL sessions, colleges sessions with a physician mentor and a small group where you learn the physical exam, sim sessions, anatomy lab, etc. Not all of these are every week.)

As a word of advice as a fourth year, while pre-clinical curriculum is by no means trivial, it's not nearly as important as I thought it was when I applied to medical school. Third/fourth year is much more important!

For any prospective students looking at this thread, I'm happy to answer questions about UTSW either in this thread or over DM!

 

[whosehouse]

there were only 85 applicants with a 4.0

The way I've interpreted that table is that there were 85 people with between a 3.75 and 4.0, not 4.0 exactly. Is that wrong? My rationale is that the column furthest on the right is for people with <2.59, followed by between a 2.59 and 2.75, and so on.

 

[jb2000]

I'm curious. For those in the first wave, were any not complete (but had secondaries in)? My school's committee letter is taking forever :/

 

[wysdoc]

The way I've interpreted that table is that there were 85 people with between a 3.75 and 4.0, not 4.0 exactly. Is that wrong? My rationale is that the column furthest on the right is for people with <2.59, followed by between a 2.59 and 2.75, and so on.

no, I think it's 85 with a 4.0. But it is not worth splitting hairs over who got an interview this early because they were in the high stats group or not, because at the end of it all interviews are your chance to show your personality, thought process, and enthusiasm, and the admitted students come from any interview date along the way.

 

[texasvandy]

Agree with @wysdoc. The GPAs are very high in Texas (UTSW - 3.89 median, UTMB 3.9 and so on). The fact that someone is invited early on does not preclude others from being invited later and admitted. People are being invited for interviews all the way into end of November and people who are interviewed in January are admitted. This applies to all the schools in Texas.

 

[harmony14]

Does utsw ( or any Texan schools) send out rejection emails. I keep worrying about invites that I haven’t received and it’s stressing me out. I know the majority of invites are late August but still.

 

[Hzreio]

Does utsw ( or any Texan schools) send out rejection emails. I keep worrying about invites that I haven’t received and it’s stressing me out. I know the majority of invites are late August but still.

Schools typically don’t send rejections until the end of the cycles

 

[texasvandy]

Schools typically don’t send rejections until the end of the cycles

Any early rejections happen when one receives a secondary and does not file it by deadline - specific to those with secondaries.

Next update is given when all the interview dates are filled and they have none left to fill.

 

[jb2000]

Just got UTSW interview. Kinda shocked bc im still not complete (waiting on committee letter). LM 78.3 (52x mcat, 3.6x gpa) IS. Submitted secondary on 7/2

 

[purple_jpg]

Just received II! First one of the cycle wow I'm shocked. Submitted my secondary 7/31, LM 70.5, URM, IS.

 

[fuzzadook]

just got a II!
IS, LM 73
submitted secondary and complete 7/30

 

[premedtomedstudentjourney]

Congrats to those that got II. Can y'all state when you were complete (or transmitted)?

 

[vv1997]

II! IS, ORM, LM 76, Complete 7/15!

 

[dallas89]

II! My second II of the cycle so far. LM 68, URM, IS, unique EC's in relation to UTSW, complete 8/3

 

[premedtomedstudentjourney]

If I was complete mid july does that mean I was not an auto-interview?

 

[premed473]

For those who received an II, did UTSW have your casper score already?

 

[vv1997]

For those who received an II, did UTSW have your casper score already?

Yes! You have to have a score in order to be "complete"!

 

[dallas89]

Yes! You have to have a score in order to be "complete"!

I took my casper at the end of July and my score is still pending so I would so no.

 

[HappyPooh12]

Got an II too!! First one this cycle wooo
IS, LM 73, transmitted 7/14

 

[harmony14]

II received. transmitted 7/13

So happy. One of my top 3 schools (along with dell and McGovern)

 

[mojoboi]

Any OOS receive II? I was complete first day haven't heard anything

 

[luluwild]

Any OOS receive II? I was complete first day haven't heard anything

+1

 

[BYC_]

For applicants who are permanent residents, did you guys send in a copy of your permanent resident card? or uploaded it through the secondary app? or we're not required to ? help

 

[jazzieyazzie]

For applicants who are permanent residents, did you guys send in a copy of your permanent resident card? or uploaded it through the secondary app? or we're not required to ? help

I didn’t have to provide anything of the sort. A few days after submitting my app, TMDSAS prompted me to submit the necessary documents to show my residency.

 

[BYC_]

I didn’t have to provide anything of the sort. A few days after submitting my app, TMDSAS prompted me to submit the necessary documents to show my residency.

Thanks for responding. I initially sent my docs to TMDSAS as well for the initial residency confirmation. I guess my issue is im sort of concerned if my not getting an interview yet is because my app isnt 'complete' yet - PR card.

 

[SC_quesarito]

The way I've interpreted that table is that there were 85 people with between a 3.75 and 4.0, not 4.0 exactly. Is that wrong? My rationale is that the column furthest on the right is for people with <2.59, followed by between a 2.59 and 2.75, and so on.

no, I think it's 85 with a 4.0.

I know this is a moot point, but I think it might be 3.76-4.0. If you look at the chart, there are 5809 total applicants who took the new MCAT, of whom 2344 are in the "4.0" column. I know TMDSAS doesn't do +/-, which does often inflate grades relative to AMCAS, but I don't think 40% of all applicants never got a single B. Although given how competitive the process has gotten, I don't think it would surprise me if that were the case.

But as wysdoc correctly states, interviews are all about personality, and UTSW, which sends out 1st round of II based solely on stats, would still rightly demand that future doctors have the temperament to be good doctors.

 

[supusenor]

For applicants who are permanent residents, did you guys send in a copy of your permanent resident card? or uploaded it through the secondary app? or we're not required to ? help

They sent me an email asking me to upload a photocopy of my green card, which I did. This happened immediately after I indicated on TMDSAS that I was a permanent resident though. The file was verified along with the rest of my application.

 

[wpneuro]

Could you please post the prompts for MSTP?

@TheDataKing Haven't seen anyone post them yet, here are the MSTP prompts:

1. If you wish, please describe major hardships or adversity you have overcome to reach this point in your life (if none, please state “none”). (500ch)
2. Why are you interested in MD/PhD training at UT Southwestern in particular? (500ch)
3. Describe the type of research you are currently most interested in pursuing for your PhD training. You can be general or specific (e.g., genetics, biochemistry, Alzheimer’s disease, rational drug design, etc.) (500ch)
4. List names of up to five UT Southwestern faculty whose research is of particular interest to you (refer to www.utsouthwestern.edu/labs for more information).

 

[northdakotas]

II! OOS w/ TMDSAS 4.0 and 520.

 

[r2med]

II OOS 519 3.99 Secondary sub 6/14

 

[supusenor]

II received! IS 3.94/519, secondary received 8/7, complete 8/11