Official 2020-2021 GI Fellowship Application Cycle

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When you withdraw your application after you’ve scheduled an interview, have people just been withdrawing the application on ERAS or also emailing the program coordinator? Email the PD as well?

When canceling already scheduled interviews, I wrote an email addressed to both the PC and PD and sent it to the PC. I did the same when declining interviews. Hopefully that was okay.
 
My last post of the season. Looks like most programs have sent out interviews. Good luck everyone!

AMG:
8/14: Mayo Jacksonville
8/18: UC Davis, URochester, Vanderbilt
8/19: U of Vermont, Temple, UVA
8/20: VCU
8/21: Rutgers RWJ, Boston U, Univ Southern Alabama
8/23: The Ohio State
8/24: UCSD, Cincinnati, Missouri-Columbia, LSU, UColorado
8/25: Duke, Brigham, MGH, Beth Israel Deaconess, WashU, Lankenau, Indiana University
8/26: WashU, Yale, UNC, UMaryland, University of Washington
8/27: Mayo Rochester, UNebraska, UChicago, Yale, UMichigan, Dartmouth
8/28: Oregon, Henry Ford, Lankenau, Medical College Wisconsin, UAB, Kaiser LA, California Pacific Health Center, U Arizona-Phoenix, Carolinas, Brigham, Cleveland Clinic-Florida, West Virginia
8/31: Henry Ford, Brown, Methodist Dallas, UT-RGV, UCSF, Tufts, Baylor Houston
9/1: UTSW, Georgetown, Cedars-Sinai, Maryland, Johns Hopkins, UPitt, Cornell, USF, Loma Linda, Lahey Clinic, Duke, Westchester
9/2: UCLA, Northwestern, Emory, Case Western-MetroHealth, Texas Tech-El Paso
9/3: Cleveland Clinic-Ohio, UPitt, Columbia, Yale, Mount Sinai (Icahn)
9/4: Albert Einstein Philly, Hofstra/Northwell (Northshore/LIJ), UWisconsin, Hopkins
9/7: NYU
9/8: Albany, UTMB, UPitt, Baylor Dallas, Case Western-UH, UF-Gainesville, Einstein-Philadelphia, Columbia, UMass
9/9: UPenn, Loyola, Einstein-Philadelphia, UT-San Antonio, Kaiser SF, Scripps, Tulane, SC-Greenville, UMiami
9/10: Columbia, Memorial Sloan Kettering, UMichigan, Tufts, Northwestern
9/11: Stanford, Johns Hopkins, UConnecticut, MUSC
9/12: Wake Forest
9/14: UMinnesota, Allegheny, UMiami, UPenn, USC, Baylor-Temple, UC Irvine, UT-Houston, Utah, GWU
9/15: Rutgers-NJMS, Medical College Georgia, Lehigh Valley
9/16: UPenn, UIllinois Chicago, UMississippi, UC Irvine, Creighton-Omaha
9/17: UArkansas, Brown, Stony Brook, Northshore, Ascension Genesys, UPenn
9/18: Buffalo, Wright State, Rush, Oklahoma, UNLV, Cook County
9/20: UCSF Fresno
9/22: New Mexico
9/23: Hofstra-Lenox Hill, Ascension Providence, Mt. Sinai-Beth Israel
9/24: Hofstra-Lenox Hill, Saint Louis
9/27: NYU
9/28: UKentucky, SUNY Brooklyn, Rowan
9/29: NYP-Queens
9/30: Loyola, The Ohio State, St. Luke's Univ, Louisville, Howard, UKansas
10/1: Baylor Houston
10/2: Maimonides
10/5: Beth Israel Deaconess

IMG requiring Visa:
8/13: VCU
8/19: UF Jacksonville
8/20: St. Luke's Hospital, University of Iowa
8/23: Ohio State
8/25: Baystate, Indiana University
8/26: WashU
8/27: Mayo Rochester, UMaryland, UNebraska
8/28: UAB, Medical College Wisconsin, Cleveland Clinic Florida, U of Arizona-Phoenix, Creighton-Phoenix
8/31: Baylor Houston
9/2: UConn, Emory
9/3: Coney Island
9/8: St. Joseph Mercy Ann Arbor, UTMB, Case Western-UH, UF-Gainesville
9/9: Loyola
9/11: UT-Houston
9/12: SC-Greenville
9/14: Allegheny, U Minnesota
9/16: Creighton-Omaha, UIllinois Chicago
9/18: Buffalo
9/23: Ascension Providence
9/28: UKentucky
9/30: Louisville

IMG without visa:
8/28: Cleveland Clinic Florida
8/31: Creighton-Phoenix
9/1: Cornell, Georgetown, Baylor Houston
9/8: UT-RGV, UMaryland-Mercy, UMass
9/9: St. Joseph Mercy Ann Arbor, Loyola, Einstein-Philadelphia, Columbia, Tulane
9/11: MUSC
9/16: UMassachusetts
9/17: UArkansas
9/18: Cook County, Montefiore, Rush

Rejections:
8/19: UC Davis (IMG)
8/20: URochester (AMG and IMG)
8/27: Mayo Rochester (AMG)
9/5: UChicago (AMG and IMG)
9/7: University of Washington (AMG and IMG)
9/9: University of Missouri (AMG and IMG)
9/10: Tufts (AMG and IMG)
9/10: Northwestern (AMG and IMG)
9/11: BIDMC (AMG)
9/14: Allegheny (AMG)
9/15: UT-San Antonio (AMG and IMG)
9/15: Vanderbilt (AMG and IMG)
9/16: UMass-Baystate (AMG and IMG)
9/17: UWashington (IMG), Mt. Sinai (AMG)
9/18: WVU (AMG and IMG), Georgetown (AMG), Mt. Sinai (AMG and IMG)
9/22: Aurora Health (IMG), UCLA (AMG and IMG)
9/23: Mayo-Phoenix (AMG)
9/28 Univ of Kentucky (IMG), Cleveland Clinic-Florida (AMG)
9/29: Cleveland Clinic-Florida (AMG)
10/1: UMassachusetts (AMG and IMG), Kaiser LA (AMG)
10/2: Rush (AMG)
 
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AMG:
8/14: Mayo Jacksonville
8/18: UC Davis, URochester, Vanderbilt
8/19: U of Vermont, Temple, UVA
8/20: VCU
8/21: Rutgers RWJ, Boston U, Univ Southern Alabama
8/23: The Ohio State
8/24: UCSD, Cincinnati, Missouri-Columbia, LSU, UColorado
8/25: Duke, Brigham, MGH, Beth Israel Deaconess, WashU, Lankenau, Indiana University
8/26: WashU, Yale, UNC, UMaryland, University of Washington
8/27: Mayo Rochester, UNebraska, UChicago, Yale, UMichigan, Dartmouth
8/28: Oregon, Henry Ford, Lankenau, Medical College Wisconsin, UAB, Kaiser LA, California Pacific Health Center, U Arizona-Phoenix, Carolinas, Brigham, Cleveland Clinic-Florida, West Virginia
8/31: Henry Ford, Brown, Methodist Dallas, UT-RGV, UCSF, Tufts, Baylor Houston
9/1: UTSW, Georgetown, Cedars-Sinai, Maryland, Johns Hopkins, UPitt, Cornell, USF, Loma Linda, Lahey Clinic, Duke, Westchester
9/2: UCLA, Northwestern, Emory, Case Western-MetroHealth, Texas Tech-El Paso
9/3: Cleveland Clinic-Ohio, UPitt, Columbia, Yale, Mount Sinai (Icahn)
9/4: Albert Einstein Philly, Hofstra/Northwell (Northshore/LIJ), UWisconsin, Hopkins
9/7: NYU
9/8: Albany, UTMB, UPitt, Baylor Dallas, Case Western-UH, UF-Gainesville, Einstein-Philadelphia, Columbia, UMass
9/9: UPenn, Loyola, Einstein-Philadelphia, UT-San Antonio, Kaiser SF, Scripps, Tulane, SC-Greenville, UMiami
9/10: Columbia, Memorial Sloan Kettering, UMichigan, Tufts, Northwestern
9/11: Stanford, Johns Hopkins, UConnecticut, MUSC
9/12: Wake Forest
9/14: UMinnesota, Allegheny, UMiami, UPenn, USC, Baylor-Temple, UC Irvine, UT-Houston, Utah, GWU
9/15: Rutgers-NJMS, Medical College Georgia, Lehigh Valley
9/16: UPenn, UIllinois Chicago, UMississippi, UC Irvine, Creighton-Omaha
9/17: UArkansas, Brown, Stony Brook, Northshore, Ascension Genesys, UPenn
9/18: Buffalo, Wright State, Rush, Oklahoma, UNLV, Cook County
9/20: UCSF Fresno
9/22: New Mexico
9/23: Hofstra-Lenox Hill, Ascension Providence, Mt. Sinai-Beth Israel
9/24: Hofstra-Lenox Hill, Saint Louis
9/27: NYU
9/28: UKentucky, SUNY Brooklyn, Rowan
9/29: NYP-Queens
9/30: Loyola, The Ohio State, St. Luke's Univ, Louisville, Howard, UKansas
10/1: Baylor Houston
10/2: Maimonides
10/5: Beth Israel Deaconess
10/6: U Kansas, Jefferson, Cooper

IMG requiring Visa:
8/13: VCU
8/19: UF Jacksonville
8/20: St. Luke's Hospital, University of Iowa
8/23: Ohio State
8/25: Baystate, Indiana University
8/26: WashU
8/27: Mayo Rochester, UMaryland, UNebraska
8/28: UAB, Medical College Wisconsin, Cleveland Clinic Florida, U of Arizona-Phoenix, Creighton-Phoenix
8/31: Baylor Houston
9/2: UConn, Emory
9/3: Coney Island
9/8: St. Joseph Mercy Ann Arbor, UTMB, Case Western-UH, UF-Gainesville
9/9: Loyola
9/11: UT-Houston
9/12: SC-Greenville
9/14: Allegheny, U Minnesota
9/16: Creighton-Omaha, UIllinois Chicago
9/18: Buffalo
9/23: Ascension Providence
9/28: UKentucky
9/30: Louisville

IMG without visa:
8/28: Cleveland Clinic Florida
8/31: Creighton-Phoenix
9/1: Cornell, Georgetown, Baylor Houston
9/8: UT-RGV, UMaryland-Mercy, UMass
9/9: St. Joseph Mercy Ann Arbor, Loyola, Einstein-Philadelphia, Columbia, Tulane
9/11: MUSC
9/16: UMassachusetts
9/17: UArkansas
9/18: Cook County, Montefiore, Rush

Rejections:
8/19: UC Davis (IMG)
8/20: URochester (AMG and IMG)
8/27: Mayo Rochester (AMG)
9/5: UChicago (AMG and IMG)
9/7: University of Washington (AMG and IMG)
9/9: University of Missouri (AMG and IMG)
9/10: Tufts (AMG and IMG)
9/10: Northwestern (AMG and IMG)
9/11: BIDMC (AMG)
9/14: Allegheny (AMG)
9/15: UT-San Antonio (AMG and IMG)
9/15: Vanderbilt (AMG and IMG)
9/16: UMass-Baystate (AMG and IMG)
9/17: UWashington (IMG), Mt. Sinai (AMG)
9/18: WVU (AMG and IMG), Georgetown (AMG), Mt. Sinai (AMG and IMG)
9/22: Aurora Health (IMG), UCLA (AMG and IMG)
9/23: Mayo-Phoenix (AMG)
9/28 Univ of Kentucky (IMG), Cleveland Clinic-Florida (AMG)
9/29: Cleveland Clinic-Florida (AMG)
10/1: UMassachusetts (AMG and IMG), Kaiser LA (AMG)
10/2: Rush (AMG)
 
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I wish everyone the best of luck. I am not much hopeful about my chances myself with only 4 interviews.
 
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I wish everyone the best of luck. I am not much hopeful about my chances myself with only 4 interviews.
No worries. I know someone who got 10 IVs and did not match. However, two of my friends matched with 3 IVs and even just one. If any programs rank you high ( especially 1 to 3 ) you will be in....Period. Good Luck!
 
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I sense a large number of soaping programs coming.
I dont think so tbh, I think this is just a weird year where people may go really far down their rank list. I have been several interviews and have seen the same 3-5 people 3+ times
 
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Can anyone on here comment on why they think they didnt match last year, how many Invites they had?
 
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Can anyone on here comment on why they think they didnt match last year, how many Invites they had?
Can only speak for others who just didn’t rank enough places 7-10 who were just picky about location. The rule of thumb is if you are desperate to be a GI doc, rank every place you interview at. Also don’t believe anything anyone says to you until match day.
 
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Can only speak for others who just didn’t rank enough places 7-10 who were just picky about location. The rule of thumb is if you are desperate to be a GI doc, rank every place you interview at. Also don’t believe anything anyone says to you until match day.
Just to clarify, are you saying 7-10 is not enough? Or people ranked less than that?
Also, I guess U of A Tucson is just gonna take internal applicants and be done then? Can I ask for my money back?
 
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I dont think so tbh, I think this is just a weird year where people may go really far down their rank list. I have been several interviews and have seen the same 3-5 people 3+ times

As in programs will still fill their spots despite plenty of the same applicants overlapping and overlapping applicants may drop lower than expected on rank list?
 
As in programs will still fill their spots despite plenty of the same applicants overlapping and overlapping applicants may drop lower than expected on rank list?
I think that what he meant. If we assume that (1) the top tier applicants go to more interviews this year (makes sense but nobody can be sure) and (2) programs do not offer significantly more interviews than last year (seems like consensus of this forum and I also asked my PD) then it makes sense that the mid tier and below programs will fall further down their rank list since the number of total applicants do not increase significantly from year to year (3rd assumption but backed up by some data).
 
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Just to clarify, are you saying 7-10 is not enough? Or people ranked less than that?
Also, I guess U of A Tucson is just gonna take internal applicants and be done then? Can I ask for my money back?

the people I know who ranked 7-10 and didn’t match were picky. They didn’t rank multiple other places they interviewed because they didn’t like the location and received false hope from their more favorited programs.
 
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Also, I guess U of A Tucson is just gonna take internal applicants and be done then? Can I ask for my money back?
I received an invite from Tucson yesterday- why do you say that? (was not planning to accept the interview anyway because of scheduling conflicts)
 
the people I know who ranked 7-10 and didn’t match were picky. They didn’t rank multiple other places they interviewed because they didn’t like the location and received false hope from their more favorited programs.
the typical saying is that if you rank 8-10 you have a high chance of matching. i dont think that applies to GI fellowship because usually, people are applying for only 1-2 slots at a given program's track. ie, there's 1 T32 slot, 2 clinical slot, 1 hepatology track, etc. thus with 8-10 ranked programs you are effectively ranking only about 10-20 slots. so yes, rank as much as possible.

I didn't rank one program after interview because i realized my wife couldnt transfer her license to that state. otherwise i ranked every single program.
 
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I received an invite from Tucson yesterday- why do you say that? (was not planning to accept the interview anyway because of scheduling conflicts)
Oh I didn't see it on the list and was hoping for one. I guess they just ignored me...

the typical saying is that if you rank 8-10 you have a high chance of matching. i dont think that applies to GI fellowship because usually, people are applying for only 1-2 slots at a given program's track. ie, there's 1 T32 slot, 2 clinical slot, 1 hepatology track, etc. thus with 8-10 ranked programs you are effectively ranking only about 10-20 slots. so yes, rank as much as possible.

I guess that depends on how high is considered high. The only stat we have is from 3 yr old NRMP that said if you rank 9-10 then probability of matching is 85-90%. All the things you said about track apply to everybody so...
 
Oh I didn't see it on the list and was hoping for one. I guess they just ignored me...



I guess that depends on how high is considered high. The only stat we have is from 3 yr old NRMP that said if you rank 9-10 then probability of matching is 85-90%. All the things you said about track apply to everybody so...
I think a lot of people in the mid range will have a lot of variability this year; meaning people with 3-5 will have a lot more matches than prior, and 6-8 may have less; I think the people with 10+ will have same changes of matching...
 
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I think a lot of people in the mid range will have a lot of variability this year; meaning people with 3-5 will have a lot more matches than prior, and 6-8 may have less; I think the people with 10+ will have same changes of matching...

Just curious why this would be the case?
 
Anyone know if California Pacific, USC or Cedars-Sinai have any more interview dates or have they finished their interview days?
 
Anecdotal, but I now have 25+ invites and have consistently seen the same grouping of people on a substantial amount of the interviews. Further, I've had multiple PDs mention that while they were disappointed they could not meet me in person this year, they were pleased that applicants who wouldn't otherwise consider their program applied this year (very awkward for me given the insinuation that I am not seriously considering their program).

Based on my interviews so far, I believe a small number of applicants got a large number of interviews and a lot of programs are going to have to drop heavily down in their ranking list because their top ranked choices went to other programs.
 
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Anyone able to gauge what programs think of you in terms of rank preference during interviews? I'm halfway through 20+ total as well, and have no idea how im doing lol
 
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Anyone able to gauge what programs think of you in terms of rank preference during interviews? I'm halfway through 20+ total as well, and have no idea how im doing lol

With 20+, if you don’t match then you have more personality problems to worry about than your GI career.
 
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With 20+, if you don’t match then you have more personality problems to worry about than your GI career.
Haha understood but it's also about matching well right, like I am trying to gauge if some high tier programs frim which I completely did not expect to receive an interview, just wanted some safety numbers for themselves or if they're actually interested :p
 
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Anyone able to gauge what programs think of you in terms of rank preference during interviews? I'm halfway through 20+ total as well, and have no idea how im doing lol

I don't know about rank preference, but the best advice is "trust no one." I have gotten some emails either to me or to my mentors about me from programs, I am not sure what to make of it since other programs are so tight-lipped and really frown on post-interview communication. I think programs have a pre-determined sense of where they are going to rank you before you even interview unless you really impress them (difficult to do) or really freak them out.

Also 20 interviews is crazy, I was going to cancel my upcoming ones since I've done 15 (which is already more than the 10 I had wanted to do) and it has been mentally exhausting!
 
words of wisdom: rank programs based on how you feel about the place and based on your feedback you received from fellows during your interaction. Never rank based on how they communicate with you after IV. I am sure majority of the people know this but year after year, few make the mistake of ranking a low tier program high coz the PD made a personal call or email
 
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words of wisdom: rank programs based on how you feel about the place and based on your feedback you received from fellows during your interaction. Never rank based on how they communicate with you after IV. I am sure majority of the people know this but year after year, few make the mistake of ranking a low tier program high coz the PD made a personal call or email
Shh! Don’t reveal the secret! That personal touch from a PD who cares can go a long way.
 
Oh I didn't see it on the list and was hoping for one. I guess they just ignored me...



I guess that depends on how high is considered high. The only stat we have is from 3 yr old NRMP that said if you rank 9-10 then probability of matching is 85-90%. All the things you said about track apply to everybody so...

Absolutely true. However. The margin for error is less. If a couple things go the wrong way an otherwise competitive candidate can end up not matching. It absolutely happens. This kind of thing almost never happens for IM residency for someone ranking 8-10 programs since the programs are huge.
 
Anyone interview at medical college of Wisconsin on 10/12? Have you received itinerary yet?
 
Absolutely true. However. The margin for error is less. If a couple things go the wrong way an otherwise competitive candidate can end up not matching. It absolutely happens. This kind of thing almost never happens for IM residency for someone ranking 8-10 programs since the programs are huge.

What are some said "wrong things" that can happen?
 
Anybody knows the percentage of matching to your 1st, 2nd, 3rd choice etc? NRMP fellowship match data does not have that information. Thanks.
 
Anyone interview at medical college of Wisconsin on 10/12? Have you received itinerary yet?


they are always late with giving itineraries..partly because they have 1 pc dealing with 4-5 fellowships... email to PC..mostly she won't reply...
 
when to expect the itinerary for upcoming monday? any idea from past interviewees? I emailed the PC but hasn't gotten response
they are always late with giving itineraries..partly because they have 1 pc dealing with 4-5 fellowships... email to PC..mostly she won't reply...
 
when to expect the itinerary for upcoming monday? any idea from past interviewees? I emailed the PC but hasn't gotten response
i interviewed there last year..never got the itirenary. i had a friend interviewing at the same day.. got the timings from him...everyone interviews with the same faculty (had about 7-8 interviews)

Dr.Shekar was the only one who asked about research... The PD (stein) etc was not very interested and was writing Pros and Cons of me in front of me...overall it's a good program...however PD and aPD could be more involved... they have this attitude that "we are a gi program in a good location ,close to chicago so we are going to fill well..we don't care"
 
Personal reasons and conflict dates. 2 programs were due to conflicts (1 conflict was because they scheduled me for an interview during ACG) the rest just seemed like terrible community hospitals in fairly horrible places to live, where they use you more as cheap labor than provide a teaching experience, think the programs that "guarantee" that you'll be ERCP/EUS certified after 3 years.
my advice is to rank all programs... you can get x academia and publish after getting from anywhere... even if u don't publish much during fellowship..if u have a very focused fellowship and academia does not workout it's hard to get x private practice... eg let's say you are interested in IBD..And you focus on pouchitis and have 15-20 papers , and some early career grants etc... you don't get tenure at a place of your choice due to no vacancies (happens too often even for ivy league type ) , and u end up in some mid tier program with /without academic tenure , and remain stuck there .. you won't be able to go to private practice because all u did was ibd and publish papers about pouchitis ...

I know people who trained at a broad program and succeeded in academia...lets say u train at a mid tier high volume clinical program..do 1000 egd ,700 colons and 200 ercp/eus ...now u want to do ibd research...u do a 4th year in ibd and publish... if u get the tenure of your choice fine... if not u always have pvt practice with high 6 figures to fall back upon..

academia /academic programs are not all of what they are made out to be...and most places however the reputation will get a lot of service (aka free labor) out of the fellow...unless u are in a basic science funded track etc (in which case more often than not you are already an early career scientist before you match)
 
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Although my experience being on the interviewer side of the table is limited when it comes to residency or fellowship, I have to say it's the programs that need the reminder too rank applicants based on how much they like the applicant, and not based on how likely they are to come/rank the program highly.

Although the vast majority of the decision should be based on your preference of where *you* want to match, there is something to be said about knowing the other side (whether applicant or program) really does want you there. These types of communications add to that, and you may disagree with me that it should factor into the decision making but it does.

For instance, at two programs the chair called me to speak with me personally because we shared some research interests and hadn't had time to discuss when I was there in person. Those acts made me feel that those programs are more invested in their fellows.

And if a program I liked had called me and said they were going to rank me high, I might have felt more valued there and ranked them sightly higher.

I have found though that programs put too much stock into this. In post interview debriefs I've heard faculty say to rank an applicant higher (or extend an offer) to an applicant they like based on how likely they are to come over a equal or maybe even more impressive candidate.

Of course, you should take all these pleasantries and communications with a huge grain of salt and trust nothing.
 
anyone interviewing at MCW tomorrow?? I still havent gotten any zoom links. Any idea from anyone would be appreciated
 
Did anyone who interviewed at Stanford get asked to interview with the division chief separately? Are they doing this for all applicants?
 
Did anyone who interviewed at Stanford get asked to interview with the division chief separately? Are they doing this for all applicants?

I am not sure if they are doing it for all applicants, but I am scheduled to meet with him separately one day this week. My guess is just that he wasn’t available on my interview day.
 
Is anyone familiar with the Kaiser programs? Seems like nearly all the graduates stay with Kaiser... is this an expectation? Other pros/cons?
 
Is anyone familiar with the Kaiser programs? Seems like nearly all the graduates stay with Kaiser... is this an expectation? Other pros/cons?

20 years to 50% pension plus health insurance for life, counting training years. If you do residency + fellowship there only 14 to go.
 
20 years to 50% pension plus health insurance for life, counting training years. If you do residency + fellowship there only 14 to go.

they still do pension? I was under the impression they stopped doing that a couple years ago.
 
Anybody got an invite from Sunrise Health in Las Vegas but unable to schedule interview? From ERAS dashboard, I went to Interview -> Invitations but nothing there to schedule. I was able to schedule for other places. Thanks.
 
Anybody got an invite from Sunrise Health in Las Vegas but unable to schedule interview? From ERAS dashboard, I went to Interview -> Invitations but nothing there to schedule. I was able to schedule for other places. Thanks.

Yes. They fixed the issue. Try to schedule it again.
 
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any insight in the following programs?

Emory
Medical college Wisconsin
Rush
 
Starting to think about my rank list but I'm not sure how to rank the following programs as I liked all of them. Any thoughts about how I should rank the following programs?

Pitt
University of Washington
University of Chicago
Northwestern
Wash U
Vanderbilt
 
Few questions about post-interview communication. I know that this is something that may have little impact, but nonetheless.

(1) Do fellowships have the same rank list certification deadline as applicants?

(2) Is there a "latest" date I should send a "you are my #1 e-mail"? I have several weeks more before my last interview, so don't want to jump the gun, but several PDs have said to reach out later if I am "seriously considering [their] program," which makes me think that if they are my #1 I do really need to tell them.

(3) Are people sending e-mails to programs 2-3? I have a shortlist of programs that I would love to go to, and I'm not so confident that I'll match at my #1. I want program 2 and 3 to know that I am very strongly interested, but I worry that sending an e-mail without specifically saying "#1" may cause more harm than good...
 
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