I'm accepted but if the ivy you went to is Penn, Jeff interviews a lot of Penn students and selects the best from them. It's a Philadelphia region thing and the accepted students group has 5-6 Penn students
100% agree. I have higher stats, but got rejected from the schools I applied to because my activities sections descriptions were so generic. Stats and good ECs mean nothing if you don’t what you got out of your experiences well.
Im in the exact same situation. I have to move across the country (I live outside Philly), so I really would need to hear back from Jeff ASAP and I don't know what the best way to go about it is. I can't imagine moving out of Philly then receiving an acceptance in July
I think that's very true that you can get in with low stats, but reapplying after being unsuccessful with low stats is a VERY different story. Your chances as a reapplicant do not increase unless you change something, and low MCAT will keep you away the second time as stats increase every year and reapplicant status puts you down in priority. If you were successful now @liblib2019, you can claim you can get in with low stats. I think you really should redo the MCAT. Speak to a premed counselor at your ivy, purchase one privately. Have a professional counselor go over your application with you. Talk to the adcoms here if you can. Don't shoot yourself in the foot
Correct! My message wasn’t 100% clear. Stats matter, but don’t overestimate their ability. I applied to super competitive schools and didn’t flesh out my activity descriptions, so it turned good, not great ECs into cookie cutter ECs. My app was DOA.
So take this with a grain of salt because it wasn’t Jeff and idk how Jeff feels, however, one school I interviewed at told us that if a CRE deadline is approaching for our accepted school but school X (being the school I interviewed at) is my top choice, they said to call/email the director of admissions and let them know that you have to CTE but you really want to come to school X
I've been told they literally cannot accept anyone until people begin to withdraw their PTEs* for other schools who they get off the WL.
I think what people are saying is true, stats are important, and your MCAT is just a little low, though not horrendously low. You could consider retaking the MCAT (now is a great time because it is only 5.5 hours long!!
). But you could also consider reapplying and applying more broadly! I honestly think that had a greater impact on your results than your MCAT score. I have a friend who had a 4.0 and a 521 MCAT with great EC's and he thought that meant he only needed to apply to 8 schools... well they were all top 10 schools and he got waitlisted at one, rejected from 2 post-interview, and didn't hear back from the others. Chances are, he'll have to reapply this cycle. That is one person who should not need to reapply, but he didn't listen to wise counsel to apply broadly, even with stellar stats.I think what people are saying is true, stats are important, and your MCAT is just a little low, though not horrendously low. You could consider retaking the MCAT (now is a great time because it is only 5.5 hours long!!
If you don't want to retake the MCAT, none of us would blame you haha, but you'll have to apply more broadly and that includes DO, if you didn't already. A 508 is at the low end of most MD programs, and there is always a chance that you won't get in even if you reapply. For more success with your current stats, you should consider applying to 25-30 schools, 5 of those being reaches, 15 of those being low-mid-tier, and 10 being low-tier/DO. I know it's expensive, but a lot of us are in the same boat in that regard. Many of us had to take time off just to save enough money to apply to so many schools, and some people took out loans to do so. By needing to reapply, you put off your physician salary by a year, so most of us assume the sacrifice is worthwhile. Even applying to 32 schools, I only spent like $7-8k on apps and interviews, but then again I was lucky enough to get an early acceptance so I only had to go to 6 out of 12 of them.
I think she meant July 20?
Yeah I think orientation in July 20 is what she meant to type. Was rejected the day after the orientation last year
I did and she said they dont know when cuz rn the class is full
I second that.
Apparently. I suppose the question to consider now is what the WL movement is at other schools, either currently or predicted in the next 3 weeks. Though, I imagine this might be impossible to tease out with any given accuracy.
okay this makes so much more sense now haha thank you!
Let’s put it this way. There are 270 ppl on this list. Let’s say it’s split 50/50 between PTE-CTE (which i believe is fair), that would LIKELY mean ~135 ppl are waiting on waitlists. It will be a slow trickle, but there are good odds that SOME of them get off waitlists. From lurking previous years and comparing them to this year and last, WL movement is changing, so we cannot really rely on the past to determine what is happening now. WL may move A lot ; it may not, but IT IS likely that SOME MOVEMENT WILL HAPPEN! It’s a matter of when, not if.
The other school I am following is going through the same thing. No waitlist movement whatsoever. This whole process seems incredibly flawed haha.
Is 50/50 split the likely average based on data from previous years? Or is it a guesstimate?
I'm waitlisted at two other schools. Both have had no waitlist movement either.
Is that cause most schools aren’t going to their waitlist or everything is just later this year
). i was just wondering because say for example on average any given applicant has a 10% chance of getting off a waitlist, 10% of 135 applicants would be 13 people.Also keeping in mind 13 slots may end up being 30 or so WL acceptances because of retention rates!thank you everyone for your responses.
one thing i just thought of is i recall having seen spreadsheets here on sdn that show the # of waitlist positions and # of typical people taken off so people cans see the % chance. i think i remember last year it coming out to like <20% chance or so at jeff and that was with when they took 40 waitlist seats but i could be misremembering (does anyone else know the sheet i am talking about? can't find it now
it's also hard to tell how many of those PTEs if taken off the waitlist are actually serious about switching schools, since some may be strictly putting off CTE because they can and to keep their options open, which is completely fair after making it this far
Might you be able to explain this?
Not everyone accepts to be taking off the WL, they will deny and then Jeff make more offers!
I've been following my state school (though I was R-ed lol) and they are moving as normal. They rank their students on the WL and they accepted up to high 30s and is entering 40s now. I don't remember anymore but I think they take typically 50-80 off of WL.
Wow, what's the school if you don't mind me asking?
OHSU
From what I remembered, multiple ppl got accepted off the WL around May 1st, then 1 or 2 around May 15th, and then after that hardly anybody.
But they supposedly accepted 30+ students off the WL that year? (from what I recall from my interview)
Yeah I guess but not everyone is active on SDN tho. I was just talking about the WL movement reported on SDN
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I feel you, it's important to be realistic to manage our expectations. It's also important to NOT rely entirely on SDN. If I had to guesstimate, I would say 1/3 of active cycle applicants are on SDN. So if we feel there isn't a ton of WL movement at other schools, perhaps we are wrong due to lack of representation on SDN.
