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I was supposed to interview Feb 25th but actually interviewed March 1How about you?
I was supposed to interview Feb 25th but actually interviewed March 1How about you?
Out of curiosity, did anyone interview, get the waitlist/hold status, and then get accepted? Or are all of us still on the same boat?
I think that's what we're interpreting it to mean right now, but I don't know anything officially. Thought I read somewhere on this thread that they would be compiling a waitlist sometime between now and May.Is hold status the same as being wait listed? If so will we hear anything before May?
I think that's what we're interpreting it to mean right now, but I don't know anything officially. Thought I read somewhere on this thread that they would be compiling a waitlist sometime between now and May.
This is my understanding as well
I would sincerely consider sending in an update. Mr. Nabers said to say how your update will better prepare you for a career in medicine. I sent in my update a week before my acceptance. You're great they'll accept you.Did y'all send in updates? I feel like everyone at the interview (and after getting placed on hold) really really really stressed the update letter, but I sort of recently quit my job to go travel for the next 5 months and I'm not totally sure that's what they are going to want to hear in an update letter
"Hi Stritch? Yeah, I just wasn't feeling the 9-5 anymore, so I decided to saddle my SO with my furniture and head to Europe indefinitely. P.S. I'm great, please accept me
Did y'all send in updates? I feel like everyone at the interview (and after getting placed on hold) really really really stressed the update letter, but I sort of recently quit my job to go travel for the next 5 months and I'm not totally sure that's what they are going to want to hear in an update letter
"Hi Stritch? Yeah, I just wasn't feeling the 9-5 anymore, so I decided to saddle my SO with my furniture and head to Europe indefinitely. P.S. I'm great, please accept me
How often is it appropriate to send an update (given that you actually have something new to add)? I sent one in February after my interview in January, haven't been accepted yet, but do have another update I could send now. Just thinking it may make a difference but also don't want to overdo it lol thanks!
As long as you have something to add, and you're not sending one every month, I think it's okay! The committee has read everyone's application at this point, and if your update adds something more to your application, or further displays how you fit their mission, go for it! It can't hurt at this point in the cycle. Good luck!
This is my understanding as well
April 8.When is the second look day?
I'm interested in ENT and 5 ENT matches seems pretty high for one school. Is that typical or just due to one class having a higher than normal amount be interested in ENT?Summarized match info:
5 anes, 1 child neuro, 7 derm (including 1 snagging the only military spot), 1 derm/med, 23 emergency, 16 family, 31 internal, 9 med/peds, 1 psych/med, 2 neuro, 1 neurosurg, 6 OB, 3 ophtho, 9 ortho, 5 ENT, 5 peds, 1 plastics, 5 psych, 1 rad onc, 4 rads, 6 gen surg, and 4 uro.
Most matched to the midwest, but people match nationally at 32 total states + DC. 16% matched at Loyola IIRC (sign of low inbreeding and strong demand nationally, which are both very positive).
Came out to about 50/50 for primary care vs specialty. Every field is represented. Over the years both of those statements have been standard for Loyola. Students are encouraged to follow their hearts, unlike certain schools that push for primary care or specialties or discourage certain fields, which I think is poor practice IMO.
Most important stat: vast majority matched into their desired field at a Top 3 place on their match list. Something like 87% at their top 3 with >50% getting their #1 (don't have the exact values off hand). In the end, this is what truly matters: getting students into the field they want to be in at the city, region, program they want. Yes, a few scrambled (FYI: ~700 students scramble nationally each year, aka ~5 per school), and all were successful.
Key note for those who are still deciding on schools and love to look at match lists, be sure to make note of the following:
- How big the class is. I'll use derm as an example. Matching 8 derm (inc. our med/derm) at a school of ~150 like Loyola is far more impressive than 8 from a school of 300-400. Similarly, putting 16 into derm at a school of 300 is the same at 8/150. At Loyola, 8 students is ~5% of the class, but recognize that derm residencies make up only ~1.5% of total residency spots, so Loyola outperformed national standards by about 3.5 fold. You can apply this evaluation for any field.
- Check out the extent of inbreeding. Some programs, especially the ivy league schools, tend to retain up to 50% of their students. Don't be deceived; it's generally not a good thing (with maybe Harvard being the exception since it has so many residency spots at its 5 hospitals). Inbreeding has the potential to make these residency programs weaker nationally than they would be otherwise by accepting weaker applicants.
- Be careful when you look at program names. Some "no name" schools and hospitals are very, VERY good at certain specialities (e.g. Rush for ortho), and some "big names" are actually undesirable for some specialities. This is highly variable field-by-field. Plus, in the end, each person has their own preference that goes far beyond name and can only be determined by looking at their specific match list.
- Recognize that the most important data point is % matched per applicant in each field. A school may put 10 into ENT, but if 20 applied, that's horrible. If 10 applied and they all matched, that's fantastic. For example, Loyola had only 1 person match plastics, but only 1 applied (can't do much better than 100%...). Be extremely cautious interpreting the raw # of matches unless you know how many applied. Understand that this information is almost uniformly unavailable.
I haven't heard of anything. My post interview status still reads "Thank you for your interest.. Your file has completed review and will be given additional consideration..."Has anyone gotten any acceptances after March 15?
+1I haven't heard of anything. My post interview status still reads "Thank you for your interest.. Your file has completed review and will be given additional consideration..."
5 for class of 2016, 5 for class of 2015, can't find class of 2014, 7 for class of 2013, 4 for class of 2012. Not sure what the average is. Our ENT department is strong. You still have to be a stellar student, though.I'm interested in ENT and 5 ENT matches seems pretty high for one school. Is that typical or just due to one class having a higher than normal amount be interested in ENT?
Summarized match info:
5 anes, 1 child neuro, 7 derm (including 1 snagging the only military spot), 1 derm/med, 23 emergency, 16 family, 31 internal, 9 med/peds, 1 psych/med, 2 neuro, 1 neurosurg, 6 OB, 3 ophtho, 9 ortho, 5 ENT, 5 peds, 1 plastics, 5 psych, 1 rad onc, 4 rads, 6 gen surg, and 4 uro.
Most matched to the midwest, but people match nationally at 32 total states + DC. 16% matched at Loyola IIRC (sign of low inbreeding and strong demand nationally, which are both very positive).
Came out to about 50/50 for primary care vs specialty. Every field is represented. Over the years both of those statements have been standard for Loyola. Students are encouraged to follow their hearts, unlike certain schools that push for primary care or specialties or discourage certain fields, which I think is poor practice IMO.
Most important stat: vast majority matched into their desired field at a Top 3 place on their match list. Something like 87% at their top 3 with >50% getting their #1 (don't have the exact values off hand). In the end, this is what truly matters: getting students into the field they want to be in at the city, region, program they want. Yes, a few scrambled (FYI: ~700 students scramble nationally each year, aka ~5 per school), and all were successful.
Key note for those who are still deciding on schools and love to look at match lists, be sure to make note of the following:
- How big the class is. I'll use derm as an example. Matching 8 derm (inc. our med/derm) at a school of ~150 like Loyola is far more impressive than 8 from a school of 300-400. Similarly, putting 16 into derm at a school of 300 is the same at 8/150. At Loyola, 8 students is ~5% of the class, but recognize that derm residencies make up only ~1.5% of total residency spots, so Loyola outperformed national standards by about 3.5 fold. You can apply this evaluation for any field.
- Check out the extent of inbreeding. Some programs, especially the ivy league schools, tend to retain up to 50% of their students. Don't be deceived; it's generally not a good thing (with maybe Harvard being the exception since it has so many residency spots at its 5 hospitals). Inbreeding has the potential to make these residency programs weaker nationally than they would be otherwise by accepting weaker applicants.
- Be careful when you look at program names. Some "no name" schools and hospitals are very, VERY good at certain specialities (e.g. Rush for ortho), and some "big names" are actually undesirable for some specialities. This is highly variable field-by-field. Plus, in the end, each person has their own preference that goes far beyond name and can only be determined by looking at their specific match list.
- Recognize that the most important data point is % matched per applicant in each field. A school may put 10 into ENT, but if 20 applied, that's horrible. If 10 applied and they all matched, that's fantastic. For example, Loyola had only 1 person match plastics, but only 1 applied (can't do much better than 100%...). Be extremely cautious interpreting the raw # of matches unless you know how many applied. Understand that this information is almost uniformly unavailable.
I know this has been asked several times, but do you know what the most up to date step 1 score at Stritch? Thank you for sharing this information. I definitely want to specialize, although I enjoy primary care, so having these stats is really helpful!
Class of 2016 was 232. I wouldn't put much stock into what the Step 1 class average is for a given medical school. I would argue the step 1 class average is less dependent on the quality of a medical school's curriculum but more so a reflection on what % of students are going for ultra competitive specialities vs not. You need to put the work in on your own to do well on step 1.I know this has been asked several times, but do you know what the most up to date step 1 score at Stritch? Thank you for sharing this information. I definitely want to specialize, although I enjoy primary care, so having these stats is really helpful!
Do you find the Loyola's curriculum format prepared you well for the boards? or was it still necessary for students to put in a lot of time aside during second year to prepare for Step 1, thanks!Class of 2016 was 232. I wouldn't put much stock into what the Step 1 class average is for a given medical school. I would argue the step 1 class average is less dependent on the quality of a medical school's curriculum but more so a reflection on what % of students are going for ultra competitive specialities vs not. You need to put the work in on your own to do well on step 1.
I don't mean to dodge your question, but it really depends on who you ask.Do you find the Loyola's curriculum format prepared you well for the boards? or was it still necessary for students to put in a lot of time aside during second year to prepare for Step 1, thanks!
I'm interested in ENT and 5 ENT matches seems pretty high for one school. Is that typical or just due to one class having a higher than normal amount be interested in ENT?
I know this has been asked several times, but do you know what the most up to date step 1 score at Stritch? Thank you for sharing this information. I definitely want to specialize, although I enjoy primary care, so having these stats is really helpful!
Do you find the Loyola's curriculum format prepared you well for the boards? or was it still necessary for students to put in a lot of time aside during second year to prepare for Step 1, thanks!
Question for current students: for those that do STAR/research at Loyola, how easy is it to get publications? Trying to choose between schools and now I'm beginning to pick at the research opps. Also, does anyone have anything to say about the Research Honors Track?
Just curious Thanks everyone!
Question for current students: for those that do STAR/research at Loyola, how easy is it to get publications? Trying to choose between schools and now I'm beginning to pick at the research opps. Also, does anyone have anything to say about the Research Honors Track?
Just curious Thanks everyone!
Yes we have AOA and yes it is announced in time for the residency application/dean's letter. The % of a class that gets AOA is capped at 1/6 by the AOA honor society not by loyola. This past year, the ranking was based on a combination of class rank (which is a product of M1-M3 grades with M3 roughly equivalent to M2 and M1 combined), step 1 score, and involvement in extracurriculars/professionalism (i.e. research honors, global health honors, bioethics, service, etc.). The exact breakdown of how these criteria are used is not explicitly outlined but we are told that academic performance is heavily weighted. Just this past year Loyola began inducting a few MS3s along with the MS4s who are selected.Does Loyola have AOA? If so, are AOA members announced in time for residency application?
Does anyone know the selection criteria and/or the percent of class that gets AOA?
Has anyone heard any updates about the waitlist? Have there been any portal changes? My post interview portal status hasn't changed.
Thank you!Yes we have AOA and yes it is announced in time for the residency application/dean's letter. The % of a class that gets AOA is capped at 1/6 by the AOA honor society not by loyola. This past year, the ranking was based on a combination of class rank (which is a product of M1-M3 grades with M3 roughly equivalent to M2 and M1 combined), step 1 score, and involvement in extracurriculars/professionalism (i.e. research honors, global health honors, bioethics, service, etc.). The exact breakdown of how these criteria are used is not explicitly outlined but we are told that academic performance is heavily weighted. Just this past year Loyola began inducting a few MS3s along with the MS4s who are selected.
I would not use whether or not a school has AOA as a factor in deciding which school to attend. In your residency application you can check a box that says "my school does not have AOA," so if that was true your lack of AOA status in that case should not be counted against you during your application to residency.
Oh yeah, what I was referring to was the actual alternate list. They told us that the alternate list wouldn't be created until mid April. I wanted to see if anyone heard any updates about that.Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but from reading threads from previous years, waitlist movement doesn't seem to occur until around May-June as the school waits until May 15th for everyone who has been given an acceptance to take that spot.
I think I am unclear about the difference between the alternate list and the wait list?
Oh no, I hope I didn't make things confusing. Here's what I understand. The alternate list and the waitlist are the same thing lol. Admissions told me that the actual alternate list will be created in mid-April. Then, once there's movement with people dropping their seat in the class and going elsewhere, they will begin calling people off the alternate list. So my question was 1) Did anyone's post-interview status change? 2) Was anyone contacted about being on the official alternate list? I hope that makes sense.
Has anyone heard back on merit scholarships?
Based on class of 2020's financial aid, the estimated COA is $80,875 with tuition at $54,710. However, I think the actual COA will be significantly less due to cheaper housing in the area etc.Does anyone know the 4 year COA? I can only find that year one is 62k