Zenge's Casino WW: A RebiWWth and Rebwwilding GAME THREAD

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I'm very amused by the snippet of wolf chat Zenge showed me that said "ok, I need to kill shorty like NOW"
Also amused by Zenge saying that N1 is a good time to kill shorty, and then revising it to N2 is a good time to kill shorty.

Even when he's modding, he still wants to NK me as early as possible.
I'm onto you, Zenges.

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I have lost to an exclusive 3p while wolfing but that was almost entirely the pack's fault for not killing her :laugh: I can't remember if I've ever been injured by one when village :thinking:
 
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@alissa14 @Viscernable @cubsrule4e Can you guys explain why alissa brought up the 2% thing on D2? Was the plan to out her like sporty said? It's been driving me crazy lol

I think she just got nervous and started trying to come up with a reason to explain the 2% so she made up the game thing. So shorty figured out the blackjack thing since that was her role, and it just went into a full reveal too early. That ended up killing my bussing cred. Then just a series of too many unfortunate events. Failed N1 kill. Then pippy figures out who I am based on literally 2 sentences. Then the successful vig shot and it was over. Sucks being a wolf that loses to the Best Village Awards team but :shrug:
 
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I still think everything not village must die. Probably because wolves lost to those damn neutrals in Bioshock and Cray’s my wolf mom so she taught me that. I am very glad that AM was a village sided and inclusive 3P.

AM’s all-in bet at 6:1 odds did make me wonder if there was some kind of 3P role that had to have the most money to win. Interesting to see how it turned out.
 
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My only regert is that I couldn't scream that I was venting on thread.
 
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I think she just got nervous and started trying to come up with a reason to explain the 2% so she made up the game thing. So shorty figured out the blackjack thing since that was her role, and it just went into a full reveal too early. That ended up killing my bussing cred. Then just a series of too many unfortunate events. Failed N1 kill. Then pippy figures out who I am based on literally 2 sentences. Then the successful vig shot and it was over. Sucks being a wolf that loses to the Best Village Awards team but :shrug:
I'm wondering now if the "oh noooooo" and laughter that I heard from upstairs that day was when that particular fakeclaim was decided on.
 
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It was a pack item that anyone could use. We could buy a 1x/2x/3x for different amounts. I shot spreadsheet shorty thank you very muuuuuuuchhhhh!
Oh I see. In the spreadsheet it just said "alissa buys 3x gun" so that's why i thought it was hers specifically!
 
That or maybe the pippy thing. I dont think he intended for wolf chat posts to help village as much as it did.
I was already dead by the time Pippy revealed that, though, and the "oh nooooooooo" I'm thinking of was not too long before I began my interrogation.
 
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I was already dead by the time Pippy revealed that, though, and the "oh nooooooooo" I'm thinking of was not too long before I began my interrogation.

Right but as soon as we got rid of genny, who I felt was the biggest threat to getting me yeeted at the time, you became the most imminent threat not because you were coming after me yet but because you were the most valuable villager with the spreadsheets...then once you were gone, pippy basically outed me. Just too many people needed to be killed at once. And I think I told you in dead chat, the wolfchat posts werent necessarily helpful because of the overall strategies being discussed (which is why pippy was still alive), it was literally because she could pick out my way of typing somehow.
 
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Right but as soon as we got rid of genny, who I felt was the biggest threat to getting me yeeted at the time, you became the most imminent threat not because you were coming after me yet but because you were the most valuable villager with the spreadsheets...then once you were gone, pippy basically outed me. Just too many people needed to be killed at once. And I think I told you in dead chat, the wolfchat posts werent necessarily helpful because of the overall strategies being discussed (which is why pippy was still alive), it was literally because she could pick out my way of typing somehow.
I think overall that was just a small piece of the puzzle in catching you. We weren't all 100% trusting pippy at that point anyway in addition to there being possibilities of someone else saying what she got from wolf chat. There was other stuff that led to you being in the POE above other people, and once alissa was outted as alpha it killed the cred you had from that push (which was th biggest reason you had moved out of my orange pile). There wasn't much to help bump you back out of the POE, whereas other people had specific interactions with the other wolves or other reasons they were in village reads or at least being tabled for later. Going back and looking at why genny would have been killed and seeing you were the only person she was suspicious of was probably the only thing that I really linked to that wolf chat snippet. Hard to say if it would have looked suspicious on its own anyway since I didn't look back through her posts until that piece of information came out.
 
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Tl;dr I think catching wolf!cubs was pretty multifactorial

I'm pretty sure I won't be able to use that wolf!Vis tell again though lol
I still can’t figure out what tell you used. So she did a good job tricking some of us
 
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I still can’t figure out what tell you used. So she did a good job tricking some of us
Just a subtle difference in the way she approaches dubz paranoia. I think there was other stuff too that pinged me while I was reading through her posts after Alissa was outted but I can't remember what they were at the moment.

For all I know that tell was just coincidence anyway lol but I like to let people know when I think I've found one so they can improve their game.

I did find out from looking through Dina's posts that I absolutely cannot tell the difference between wolf!Dina and busy village!Dina. The reason HZD and MHA looked different was more because she was more active than anything else I think.
 
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I find Vis tonally quite different as a wolf, but I have never found a way to articulate it, and being like “Vis’ posts are making my eye twitch” seems unlikely to convince anyone.
 
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I think overall that was just a small piece of the puzzle in catching you. We weren't all 100% trusting pippy at that point anyway in addition to there being possibilities of someone else saying what she got from wolf chat. There was other stuff that led to you being in the POE above other people, and once alissa was outted as alpha it killed the cred you had from that push (which was th biggest reason you had moved out of my orange pile). There wasn't much to help bump you back out of the POE, whereas other people had specific interactions with the other wolves or other reasons they were in village reads or at least being tabled for later. Going back and looking at why genny would have been killed and seeing you were the only person she was suspicious of was probably the only thing that I really linked to that wolf chat snippet. Hard to say if it would have looked suspicious on its own anyway since I didn't look back through her posts until that piece of information came out.

I was just expounding on the pippy point itself and the chain of reactions it created. All the other things I mentioned created the perfect storm. You were the only one who had me deep in your POE, even AM had 4 or 5 people ahead of me, which was big as Im always in her POE so that was impressionable on other people I think. With each incorrect yeet I would have become more and more suspicious but we would have at least had more time, especially with genny gone and then shorty and then you. We still had that 3rd vig which once we got aprils role info got rid of her, prevented her from saving samac or protecting you. I still had a block to use. Alley was pocketed. Not saying we even had a chance still at winning. But it wouldnt have been a slaughter at least.
 
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I was just expounding on the pippy point itself and the chain of reactions it created. All the other things I mentioned created the perfect storm. You were the only one who had me deep in your POE, even AM had 4 or 5 people ahead of me, which was big as Im always in her POE so that was impressionable on other people I think. With each incorrect yeet I would have become more and more suspicious but we would have at least had more time, especially with genny gone and then shorty and then you. We still had that 3rd vig which once we got aprils role info got rid of her, prevented her from saving samac or protecting you. I still had a block to use. Alley was pocketed. Not saying we even had a chance still at winning. But it wouldnt have been a slaughter at least.
Sporty originally was reading you village too (maybe she wouldn't have been if she wasn't so distracted by trying to find any reason to be suspicious of me :laugh: ) so yeah, I see what you're sayin
 
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I think overall that was just a small piece of the puzzle in catching you. We weren't all 100% trusting pippy at that point anyway in addition to there being possibilities of someone else saying what she got from wolf chat. There was other stuff that led to you being in the POE above other people, and once alissa was outted as alpha it killed the cred you had from that push (which was th biggest reason you had moved out of my orange pile). There wasn't much to help bump you back out of the POE, whereas other people had specific interactions with the other wolves or other reasons they were in village reads or at least being tabled for later. Going back and looking at why genny would have been killed and seeing you were the only person she was suspicious of was probably the only thing that I really linked to that wolf chat snippet. Hard to say if it would have looked suspicious on its own anyway since I didn't look back through her posts until that piece of information came out.

Agree with this ^^

also I think it was the reads post (although I did pause when sporty said it sounded like village!cubs) that made me want to start looking at you harder. I had similar thoughts to what shorty said she had in dead chat. Pippy's posts were just an added bonus. I think I would've gotten there eventually w/o pippy's posts but it might've taken a cycle or two

also there's a subtle difference in how wolf cubs and village cubs reacts to suspicion that I've picked up on

Just a subtle difference in the way she approaches dubz paranoia. I think there was other stuff too that pinged me while I was reading through her posts after Alissa was outted but I can't remember what they were at the moment.

For all I know that tell was just coincidence anyway lol but I like to let people know when I think I've found one so they can improve their game.

I did find out from looking through Dina's posts that I absolutely cannot tell the difference between wolf!Dina and busy village!Dina. The reason HZD and MHA looked different was more because she was more active than anything else I think.

I apologize again that I wasn't super active this game

Between migraines, some WW burnout, and feeling like I was putting more time in this game than I actually was because I was PMing samac I just wasn't at my best lol
 
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I apologize again that I wasn't super active this game

Between migraines, some WW burnout, and feeling like I was putting more time in this game than I actually was because I was PMing samac I just wasn't at my best lol
It's ok, it happens. I'm sorry I lost my mind about something dumb. I did get out of the tunnel eventually at least 😅
 
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Agree with this ^^

also I think it was the reads post (although I did pause when sporty said it sounded like village!cubs) that made me want to start looking at you harder. I had similar thoughts to what shorty said she had in dead chat. Pippy's posts were just an added bonus. I think I would've gotten there eventually w/o pippy's posts but it might've taken a cycle or two

also there's a subtle difference in how wolf cubs and village cubs reacts to suspicion that I've picked up on



I apologize again that I wasn't super active this game

Between migraines, some WW burnout, and feeling like I was putting more time in this game than I actually was because I was PMing samac I just wasn't at my best lol
Sporty should not be allowed to make Cubs reads when she’s tired and hasn’t read the thread.

I think I only did cuz I was tired of being pushed and wanted people off my back about asking for a read on him.
 
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also I think it was the reads post (although I did pause when sporty said it sounded like village!cubs) that made me want to start looking at you harder.
But see by that point I kinda knew we were done and just didnt have the energy left to produce an entire believable fake reads list. I even apologized to Zenge and told him Im gonna try my best but there's no way I can do an all day defense against a Dubz-led Cubs yeet that is inevitable to go through.
 
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But see by that point I kinda knew we were done and just didnt have the energy left to produce an entire believable fake reads list. I even apologized to Zenge and told him Im gonna try my best but there's no way I can do an all day defense against a Dubz-led Cubs yeet that is inevitable to go through.
Huh. I guess now I need to consider whether I have a cubs reading card myself. I will ponder this further.
 
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@alissa14 @Viscernable @cubsrule4e Can you guys explain why alissa brought up the 2% thing on D2? Was the plan to out her like sporty said? It's been driving me crazy lol
Popping on randomly… it was to build paranoia against sporty but didn’t work well in my favor. Clearly my WW skills are rusty because I made a lot of BAD mistakes lol. Unsure if I will be tuning in for the next one. School is back
 
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