Hey all, I am a current MBS student (just finished!) and I know a bunch of you had some questions, so here you go!
If you asked me about the apartment sorry I haven't gotten back to you yet and I will shortly!!
About me: Graduated college in 2009 with a 3.5 GPA, 31 MCAT score, lots of extracurricular/research/clinical/etc experience
1. Did you apply the summer before starting (or know of people who did) and then you just send updates on your progress to the schools you apply to?
They will tell you that few people actually apply while in the program and that they recommend holding off on applying until AFTER you complete the program... I would say maybe about 20 of us actually applied to med schools while in the program and of the 20 at least 5 people that I know of got in BEFORE finishing the program. So if you already have strong credentials to get into medical school but just needed that "extra kick" to get in, I would say go ahead and apply this cycle.
If you do apply this cycle, we were recommended to update the schools at the end of the first "semester" (so in december) when we had our grades in. The whole first semester (more or less) are the EXACT SAME CLASSES THE MEDICAL SCHOOL STUDENTS TAKE WITH THE EXACT SAME TESTS. So when Tufts updates the medical schools they can report your ranking/percentile if you were in the medical school
2. Do you think you could find exact numbers of these people who apply the summer before and get in--i'd rather not have another year off after the program.
Out of about 110 students, I would guess about 20-25 applied while in the MBS program and I know AT LEAST 5 got in and a handful got wait listed. Justin, along with 2 others, were accepted into Tufts and at least 2 were waitlisted there.
3. Do you have a better chance of getting into tufts med school (not just interviewing)??
Quite a few people from past MBS programs also got interviewed/accepted into Tufts though I dont know the numbers.
4. Do you take all classes with med school students or just first semester?
We dont actually take them WITH the medical students, we just have the same professors give the same lectures. Because the Med School is around 200 students and we are around 110, we take them in separate rooms and separate times. Some classes are "televised" to us; in other words its just a live video recording of the lecture the med students are getting.
5. Are you graded against their curve or are you given a separate curve?
Keep in mind this programs main benefit is to BOOST YOUR GPA, so we get a pretty nice curve. The medical students have a pass/fail line of around 65 (seriously... all they have to do is get above a 65% to pass... and there are no rankings for the med students). So what they do for us (since we need letter grades) is make that pass fail line (usually 65%) equivalent to a 3.0 B-. Then there are 6 steps from 65 to 100 (B-/B/B+/etc). So an A+ is about 94-100, an A from 88 - 94, A- from 83-88 etc.
Although this is a generalization, it pretty much stayed that way second semester when our classes deviated from the medical school classes. In the second semester, your grade is based off of the averages for the MBS class. So anything 1 standard deviation above the average is an A-, 1 below is B+ etc.
Averages on pretty much all tests for us ran in the low to mid 80's. All tests are multiple choice except for molecular bio which is a bunch of short answers (and we all hated it... poorly taught).
6. How many people are in the program each year? And everyone helps each other?
110 or so in this years MBS. Because we dont really compete against each other (especially in the first semester) people help each other often, such as sending mass messages with notes/slideshows/study guides
7. Profs are approachable all fine too?
Profs seem very approachable, though I rarely did. Of course you will have those few brown nosers who ask questions non-stop in class and will visit the profs everyday...
8. Also do you know anything about the MPH or MBA program that you can complete in the 2nd year? Do many students pursue that/is it difficult to do in a year? I was considering maybe doing an MBA for the 2nd year while applying after the first year if I didn't apply this summer, but wasn't sure if many did it or was something encouraged.
Not too sure about MPH or MBA, though they do send us lots of info on it and have workshops. I think its a great idea if you concerned about not getting into medical school even with this program under your belt! Or if you wanted to do a combined MPH/MD program anyways this is perfect!
9. If you pursue the 2nd degree, you can still finish the requirements for the MBS program in time in the summer before starting the 2nd degree?
Because Tufts no longer allows you to get a "certificate" in MBS, you MUST do a research project. The research project can be lab based (which takes over a year... so not what you would want to do) or a literature/library based which you can easily complete by August before matriculation into a medical school or the 2nd year of the MPH program.
10. Also when does the program actually end (with the thesis that you need to do)--I don't want it to go much into the summer if I get into a med school that could start earlier.
I am lazy but I will have no problem finishing it by August (though I havent been accepted to medical school and am re applying this cycle). If you dont finish it by August or are doing a lab based, the "continuation" fee is $1500 a semester.
11. Also do you know how many people from the program get interviewed and get into Tufts Med School?
See earlier questions
12. Does it really cost $54000 for the program!??
Yeah, I think it was under 40 G's for us this year. Really expensive, but same price for other similar programs.
13. What made YOU choose this program (were you considering others)?
I had applied to medical schools and didnt get in, so I opted to do this program. My main motivation was that I was two years out from college and wanted to get back into an academic environment and I felt like I needed the extra kick on my application to med school to get me in. Also, I realized that this program can be good even if I dont ever get into medical school, or if I decide not to spend another 4 years of my life in med school (and being broke for the next 10 years or whatever hahaha)
14. How many people who get interviews get accepted from the program?
See above
15. For applying to the MBA program, what GPA do you need to have from the MBS program to be considered or accepted?
I was advised to try to get into the top 10% of the class. I know one person in my class who got into tufts had a 4.0 in the program and was very close to the professors and also volunteered at our student ran health center thing. But another classmate who got in got a 3.7 (or lower) and wasnt as active. My current grade is a little over 3.6 and I scored just above average on most tests...
16. Also, I saw on the site that the GMAT score is required if you want to get the MBA in the 2nd year--but what score do you need to get to get accepted?
No clue
17. One more thing I just thought about--what other opportunities can you have/do with an MBA as a physician other than hospital management/group practice management? I at first thought those were the only main reasons you would want to get an MBA, but was just told by a friend that there are a ton more--but what??
Not really sure all the options out there with an MBS masters, but it will give you an added advantage if you decide to enter the workplace (C'mon... a masters in one year is pretty sweet) but also opens up options other than medical school such as MBA/MPH
18. Random Info/My Suggestions
Become friends with the medical students and past MBS students! MUCH OF THE TEST QUESTIONS ARE REUSED EACH YEAR, and sometimes the med students (who are in better connection with the past year med students) have more access to old tests and helpful hints. Also the med students are better organized in terms of parties/bar crawls especially after tests, so going to their parties is always fun and opens up possibilities of meeting/dating/hooking up with some people you dont have to see everyday in class!
All classes are recorded... first semester and first part of the second semester I attended every class until I realized I learned sooooo much better sitting at home or at the library and watching the lectures, being able to pause and rewind.
Second semester deviates from the medical students in that in anatomy we dont get cadavers (which sucks), and in pathology and physiology, which the medical students get over 2 years, they try to condense it into 6 months.
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