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Sounds pretty good to me
Sounds pretty good to me
Compare:
“Yes we can!”
With:
“Lock her up!”
“Build the Wall!”
“Drain the swamp!”
“Make America great again!”
Nothing to do with positivity at all.
All negative, aggressive slogans that reflect only that there is something bad out there that needs to change. The aggressiveness and negativity that is currently pervasive in our society is from trump, with quite a bit of help from our future masters Putin and Russia
trump is everything you don't want your kid to be: spoiled, mean-spirited, narcissistic, entitled, poorly mannered, a philanderer, a cheater, a thrice divorcee, a liar, a bully, and fat. if you aspire to be like trump...... what does that make you?
Of those sources, only Fox has even a shred of credibility. If it was just Young Turks or others like them saying Trump was going to turn us into Nazi Germany I don't think most of us would care. But I do expect better from CNN, the NY Times and so on.odd isn’t it when foxnews, Alex Jones, Drudge Report, Rush Limbaugh critiqued Obama, they weren’t dividing or divisive, but CNN is?
I have news for you - talk radio/commentary is supposed to be divisive.
The best we can expect from the other side is to at least tell a modicum of the truth and not make up fallacies, something that condiracy theorists do not abide by. And for us to repudiate them. In both those respects, the US is failing.
Save your bile for them....
This is pure gold. When you wake up you’re gonna look back at this post and realize that you were having a meltdown thanks to the propaganda from the liberal media controlling your thoughts. And I’m giving you an “out” there, because I don’t agree with the liberal press dividing us.
#walkaway
I also disagree completely.
I won't deny there is SOME negativity from Trump but I attribute it more to his style in that he attacks opponents DIRECTLY, rather than through proxies, like all other politicians. His twitter feed is about 80% POSITIVE. His twitter today addressed our solidarity with the victims of the shooting. Yesterday it was celebrating America is open for business, and new jobs. As Doctodd says, you will NEVER see this positivity because your media sources are filtering the news. I'm not sure you want to see it...
Wow, a lot of people just found a voice.
LOL
“Build the Wall!”
“Drain the swamp!”
“Make America great again!”
All three above very positive statements. Affirmative statements of action. We can, we will type statements. Directly acknowledges the spineless, feckless, apologetic prior administration, and the sentiments of the American citizens that our government had no spine and had become corrupt and is being illegally invaded by millions while legal immigrants - future citizens who wish to obey the laws of this country - wait years to immigrate legally. WE DO NOT NEED A WALL FOR OUR LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, they don't want to enter a home without an invitation.
I'll agree lock her up is negative, but a good one anyway. Made me happy to hear the reign of Clinton lawlessness
"Yes we can!" ???
Can what? What specifically are you going to do? What a non specific, do nothing statement which has some vague good feeling to it but no direct action or goal indicated, pulls the heartstrings of virtue signalers and bleeding hearts.
You're not wrong about him being a narcissist but it just doesn't bother me. It's a known quantity. I find it much less irritating than the quiet condescension I am used to hearing from politicians.The positive things from Trump are mainly about things he's done and how he is the best president in history. There always has to be some articulation of his own narcissism rather than of our push forward as a society and nation. This is not the rhetoric of someone that can build bridges and bring people together. Yes the media is unfair to them, but to be honest he would be nothing except all of the attention he gets from the media. By attacking the media he's fueling the fire that got him there in the first place and he loves the attention.
I don’t understand your definition of socialism, because dividing people into separate categories is actually anti-socialist.
Socialism specifically refers to community or group ownership. Tell me how breaking people apart is socialist, if the goal is to make people more, er, collective and equal.
You are equating the defending of searate groups of individuals or political factions that are being essentially advocated by trump as antisocialistic. Ie when trump refuses to disavow David Dukes, that appears to you that he is being more equinamous? That is a false narrative - the basic premise for the organization of the KKK is racist. You cannot say “I am being balanced and fair about them” when their basic existence and essential purpose is not balanced or fair.
Bringing up Saul Alinsky is a straw man argument. I am discussing democratic principles, not socialist states. I don’t want us to turn in to the US version of Mother Russia (which is clearly not socialist now).
Speaking of Russia, the essential effect of Russia’s campaign against the US is to divide us - to stoke divisions and tensions. Make us hate each other. The very concern you blame on democrats. You are blaming the wrong player. I don’t have to assume clearly you feel this.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wi...fect-the-2016-election-its-now-undeniable/amp
And trump played right into their hands. Think of the campaign. What were his main talking points of memory? Was it that Clinton supported the Paris accords (as an example) or do his supporters worry more about inconsequential servers? Is his stance on gun control, Obamacare or taxes that much different from Rubio or Cruz or do we remember divisive statements about “little Marco” and “Lyin Ted”?
Touching on that, the negativity emanates from trump and his multiple and continuous insults on other people’s characters. This has been from the start, primarily from him and not his agents.
Tell me, what are the positivities in insulting war heroes who gave their lives for our country or their families, or people with disabilities, or brain cancer..,
I don’t understand your definition of socialism, because dividing people into separate categories is actually anti-socialist.
Socialism specifically refers to community or group ownership. Tell me how breaking people apart is socialist, if the goal is to make people more, er, collective and equal.
You are equating the defending of searate groups of individuals or political factions that are being essentially advocated by trump as antisocialistic. Ie when trump refuses to disavow David Dukes, that appears to you that he is being more equinamous? That is a false narrative - the basic premise for the organization of the KKK is racist. You cannot say “I am being balanced and fair about them” when their basic existence and essential purpose is not balanced or fair.
Bringing up Saul Alinsky is a straw man argument. I am discussing democratic principles, not socialist states. I don’t want us to turn in to the US version of Mother Russia (which is clearly not socialist now).
Speaking of Russia, the essential effect of Russia’s campaign against the US is to divide us - to stoke divisions and tensions. Make us hate each other. The very concern you blame on democrats. You are blaming the wrong player. I don’t have to assume clearly you feel this.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wi...fect-the-2016-election-its-now-undeniable/amp
And trump played right into their hands. Think of the campaign. What were his main talking points of memory? Was it that Clinton supported the Paris accords (as an example) or do his supporters worry more about inconsequential servers? Is his stance on gun control, Obamacare or taxes that much different from Rubio or Cruz or do we remember divisive statements about “little Marco” and “Lyin Ted”?
Touching on that, the negativity emanates from trump and his multiple and continuous insults on other people’s characters. This has been from the start, primarily from him and not his agents.
Tell me, what are the positivities in insulting war heroes who gave their lives for our country or their families, or people with disabilities, or brain cancer..,
Democrat principles are essentially the ones Saul Alinsky listed.....more govt control of your life. Ill never support that. We debated Obama 4+ years ago about his principles, his undermining of law enforcement, not his color. But you can add the following to your party's platform as well.....allowing illegal immigrants in, abolishing ICE, impeaching the president, fomenting racial division, increasing taxes for corporations and individuals....while the liberal media uses fraudulent or fabricated pictures and stories to convince you that Trump is a racist, bigot, etc(pretty rich coming from Weinstein and Bill Clinton friends). At what point does your intelligence become insulted with the message of the media and the Democratic party?
That’s not true. There were many innuendos about Obama’s race. Case in point, trumps start in politics was the birther argument, saying that he was born in Kenya, and is universally seen as a racist argument (except by those who are being exposed as racist, of course).Democrat principles are essentially the ones Saul Alinsky listed.....more govt control of your life. Ill never support that. We debated Obama 4+ years ago about his principles, his undermining of law enforcement, not his color. But you can add the following to your party's platform as well.....allowing illegal immigrants in, abolishing ICE, impeaching the president, fomenting racial division, increasing taxes for corporations and individuals....while the liberal media uses fraudulent or fabricated pictures and stories to convince you that Trump is a racist, bigot, etc(pretty rich coming from Weinstein and Bill Clinton friends). At what point does your intelligence become insulted with the message of the media and the Democratic party?
That’s not true. There were many innuendos about Obama’s race. Case in point, trumps start in politics was the birther argument, saying that he was born in Kenya, and is universally seen as a racist argument (except by those who are being exposed as racist, of course).
Only trump can argue against the truth and have ppl believe. You aren’t doing as well.
A lot of people didn't see the birther movement as racist. I thought it was because Obama spent time overseas as a kid and had a Kenyan father. If Obama were white and his father were white and a foreign national, nothing would change. The same guy that went after crooked Hillary, who is as white as snow, and low-energy Jeb and Pocahontas. To Trump, everything is personal; his brand, his opponents, everything.That’s not true. There were many innuendos about Obama’s race. Case in point, trumps start in politics was the birther argument, saying that he was born in Kenya, and is universally seen as a racist argument (except by those who are being exposed as racist, of course).
Only trump can argue against the truth and have ppl believe. You aren’t doing as well.
A key driver of birtherism: racial resentment
Political scientist Philip Klinkner of Hamilton College examined the effects of race and racial attitudes on birtherism in a 2014 paper. He concluded that belief in birtherism “is almost completely resistant to factual correction and is strongly related [to] partisanship and attitudes about race.”
To evaluate this, Klinkner conducted a survey of Americans asking them about their views on Obama’s birthplace. He then compared the answers to other factors, such as political party, race, and racial attitudes. He found that birthers are almost entirely white, are mostly Republican, and reported high levels of racial resentment.
In fact, a stronger belief in birtherism correlated tightly with increasing levels of racial resentment.
It’s possible the correlation was coincidental. The study acknowledged that whiteness, Republicanism, and racial resentment all tend to correlate, so maybe this really reflects that partisan beliefs, not racial resentment, drive birtherism. But when Klinkner put all of these factors through a statistical control model, he found that racial resentment significantly correlated by itself with birtherism.
To prove this, Klinkner also looked at Democrats who believed Obama was born outside the US. He found, “Among those with the lowest levels of racial resentment, party had little influence as both Democrats and Republicans had a low probability of believing in birtherism. As racial resentment increased, however, the probability of birtherism increased for both Democrats and Republicans, but more among the latter.” So partisan beliefs did play some role, but racial resentment played a significant role as well.
Ted Cruz is not eligible to be presidentWhich white candidate or president has been accused of not being a US citizen?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo.../11/29/16713664/trump-obama-birth-certificate
In term of getting richer - it’s obvious he is getting a windfall on the governments behalf.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/530718/
You forgot about Mar a Lago and his multiple golf club visits, I’ll bet, because he is there so often.
Which white candidate or president has been accused of not being a US citizen?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo.../11/29/16713664/trump-obama-birth-certificate
In term of getting richer - it’s obvious he is getting a windfall on the governments behalf.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/530718/
You forgot about Mar a Lago and his multiple golf club visits, I’ll bet, because he is there so often.
A lot of WHITE people didn't see the birther movement as racist.
Trump still outpaces Obama in time spent on the golf course
He has already surpassed what Obamacare played... in 8 years. And he had the gall that complain about Obama’s vacations.
Trump Golf Count
This is why it matters... assuming these trends continue, he will cost taxpayers roughly $210,000,000. For golf.
How Debt Could Blow Up the Trump Economyonly a desperate liberal would keep score of Obama vs Trump golf outings....and it's pretty rich when liberals are concerned with spending
How Debt Could Blow Up the Trump Economy
Guy take off the rose colored glasses just once and realize your Tangerine Messiah is not infallible
Trade War Could Trigger Global Recession, China and Europe Warn
A trade war could cause 'an economic crisis': Robert Shiller
Why a major trade war could mean a ‘full-blown recession’
might be time to stop pumping into the 401ks for a while. im not there yet, but im getting close. where is MM? its time for his perpetual annual doom and gloom forecast
actually...only a desperate liberal would keep score of Obama vs Trump golf outings....and it's pretty rich when liberals are concerned with spending
You sound like it's full blooded fiscal conservative. Maybe you should invest in gold bars non-perishable foods bullets and antibiotics for your bunker.
#2 Tax cuts for the poor and middle classPlease list what Jesus Trump has actually accomplished?
took the liberty to start for you
#1 Tax cuts for rich(will skyrocket the debt)
#2 Tax cuts for the poor and middle class ( look how popular it is, you care about debt anymore?)
#3 Tax law changes that incentivize corporations to bring operations, money and jobs to America; encourage small businesses to invest and expand; and (hopefully) improve the long term trajectory of our economy.( Ok, will see)
#4 Replaced Justice Scalia with another justice who respects the separation of powers and the fact that he has an actual job, not just a forum to do whatever his bleeding heart tells him to at the moment. This is how you get LONG TERM stability in a country. Obama's pick (Scalia -> Garland) would have dramatically changed the Supreme Court to a majority of children. ( yes " only conservative Judges respect separation of powers)
#5 Broke the Clinton Dynasty ( good)
#6 Broke the Bush Dynasty ( g00d)
#7 Decimated the Political Class ( ya really drained the swamp..Devos, pruitt, zinke etc)
#8 Demonstrated that a business background is superior to a political silver spoon when it comes to governing ( Are you f'cking delusional)
#9 Dramatically improved the morale of business and consumer confidence( OK)
#10 Drove liberals to self-improvement (ie. #metoo) (lmao)
#11 Stopped and rolled back the out-of-control regulatory state ( right who needs clean air, water?)
etc, etc.
#2 Tax cuts for the poor and middle class
#3 Tax law changes that incentivize corporations to bring operations, money and jobs to America; encourage small businesses to invest and expand; and (hopefully) improve the long term trajectory of our economy.
#4 Replaced Justice Scalia with another justice who respects the separation of powers and the fact that he has an actual job, not just a forum to do whatever his bleeding heart tells him to at the moment. This is how you get LONG TERM stability in a country. Obama's pick (Scalia -> Garland) would have dramatically changed the Supreme Court to a majority of children.
#5 Broke the Clinton Dynasty
#6 Broke the Bush Dynasty
#7 Decimated the Political Class
#8 Demonstrated that a business background is superior to a political silver spoon when it comes to governing
#9 Dramatically improved the morale of business and consumer confidence
#10 Drove liberals to self-improvement (ie. #metoo)
#11 Stopped and rolled back the out-of-control regulatory state
etc, etc.
Wasn't the Palmer Report the site that is the left's equivalent to Breitbart or Alex Jones?complete BS. disagree with every one of them. except 5 and 6.
trump has 1 signature legislative victory, the tax cuts, which will end up behind a colossal f%ck up. the right isnt interested in governing. they cant do it. all they know how to do is tear down. all of this executive order nonsense will be reversed once this d-bag is no longer in office.
the supreme court hurts. no doubt. he can hardly be congratulated for that, however. also, it looks like justice kennedy was up to his neck in the trump russia scandal as well, so we will see how that all plays out. LOT of people going to jail. You’re darn right Robert Mueller is investigating Anthony Kennedy’s connection to Trump-Russia
there is no equivalent to Breitbart or Alex Jones. no one makes up conspiracy theories and outright lies as much as these two.Wasn't the Palmer Report the site that is the left's equivalent to Breitbart or Alex Jones?
Post 346 in this thread. SSdoc claims its the left equal to Fox, but having perused that site I think its crazier than that. I mean, go look at what's being posted on the site and tell me its not insane.there is no equivalent to Breitbart or Alex Jones. no one makes up conspiracy theories and outright lies as much as these two.
well, maybe Trump........
fwiw, I have never heard of the Palmer Report before this very minute.
Less than I used to, since "Quantitative Easing" and the whole focus on inflation.you care about debt anymore?
Wasn't the Palmer Report the site that is the left's equivalent to Breitbart or Alex Jones?
Have there been any charges relating to Russian collusion that would justify the continued attention to this topic?complete BS. disagree with every one of them. except 5 and 6.
trump has 1 signature legislative victory, the tax cuts, which will end up behind a colossal f%ck up. the right isnt interested in governing. they cant do it. all they know how to do is tear down. all of this executive order nonsense will be reversed once this d-bag is no longer in office.
the supreme court hurts. no doubt. he can hardly be congratulated for that, however. also, it looks like justice kennedy was up to his neck in the trump russia scandal as well, so we will see how that all plays out. LOT of people going to jail. You’re darn right Robert Mueller is investigating Anthony Kennedy’s connection to Trump-Russia
#10 Drove liberals to self-improvement (ie. #metoo)
"grab em by the pu$$y!" said the fat orange President man
Is that good or bad? I thought most trump haters were vegan.Pretty much. He is right a lot of the time, though with his predictions. Basically it is red meat for trump hayers