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Doctodd said:
you thought i was talking about you? I did specifically say "they" for a reason. But u took it personally anyway?
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Your obnoxiousness knows no boundaries
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go home and pout for another 6.5 years because you didnt get your way of another corrupt politician getting elected.....you have plenty of time to play victim. And dont forget everyone who supports our president is stupid and racist according to your side. Im kinda tired of being called that by the liberal media/your side.

Im not, and have never been politically correct like our other conservative colleagues on here.
 
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lonelobo said:
" must be those vagina hats they wear when screaming at the sky that give special powers."
Not exactly name calling, but truly obnoxious
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I thought that was rather funny,....and accurate.

Those same protesters termed their hats “p¥ssy hats”.....and spent most of their time yelling at the sky about things which couldn’t be changed at that time.

Massive group therapy in the guise of a protest.
 
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Doctodd said:
go home and pout for another 6.5 years because you didnt get your way of another corrupt politician getting elected.....you have plenty of time to play victim. And dont forget everyone who supports our president is stupid and racist according to your side. Im kinda tired of being called that by the liberal media/your side.

Im not, and have never been politically correct like our other conservative colleagues on here.
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There is a difference between being politically incorrect and having loathsome opinions. No doubt there is great number out there that share your off-putting beliefs , which is why we have the president we now have.
Looking back in a few years time from now, this current administration like the Nixon one will be seen as a small "Shat" stained blip in our Great country's history.
 
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Doctodd said:
If only the liberal media had some credibility.
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like this sort of credibility? -- a quote from Trump

".....the Democrats, who want Open Borders and Unlimited Crime, well into the future...."

nothing trump says is true, so if you start with the assumption that he is lying, everything makes sense. it is very clear how he operates. He makes a wildly false claim like "US pays for 90% of NATO" or "we have a XXX billion dollar trade deficit with china" or "obama wiretapped trump tower" or "my inauguration crowds are the largest" or "there is no longer a nuclear threat from north korea" or "millions aliens voted illegally" and then uses those lies as a basis to try to change policy. those lies are all very easily disproven. and you -- doctodd, hyper, etc buy it, hook line and sinker.

maybe we should spend less on NATO. maybe there was some spying on trump's campaign, etc. but when you immediately begin with a falsehood, you cannot be taken seriously. thus, you have no CREDIBILITY.

trump doesnt have the will, knowledge, or skill to accomplish policy changes legitimately. so he cheats. he has been doing it all of his life, and it is catching up with him now. the US will not look so great anymore when the rest of the world unites against us in military, trade, and financial concerns. this is a dangerous time. like i said before, i think we have about 18 months before the sh$t hits the fan financially.
 
SSdoc33 said:
like this sort of credibility? -- a quote from Trump

".....the Democrats, who want Open Borders and Unlimited Crime, well into the future...."

nothing trump says is true, so if you start with the assumption that he is lying, everything makes sense. it is very clear how he operates. He makes a wildly false claim like "US pays for 90% of NATO" or "we have a XXX billion dollar trade deficit with china" or "obama wiretapped trump tower" or "my inauguration crowds are the largest" or "there is no longer a nuclear threat from north korea" or "millions aliens voted illegally" and then uses those lies as a basis to try to change policy. those lies are all very easily disproven. and you -- doctodd, hyper, etc buy it, hook line and sinker.

maybe we should spend less on NATO. maybe there was some spying on trump's campaign, etc. but when you immediately begin with a falsehood, you cannot be taken seriously. thus, you have no CREDIBILITY.

trump doesnt have the will, knowledge, or skill to accomplish policy changes legitimately. so he cheats. he has been doing it all of his life, and it is catching up with him now. the US will not look so great anymore when the rest of the world unites against us in military, trade, and financial concerns. this is a dangerous time. like i said before, i think we have about 18 months before the sh$t hits the fan financially.
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You realize the 2 aren't mutually exclusive.

Yes Trump lies. But that doesn't mean the media isn't going off the rails a bit.
 
VA Hopeful Dr said:
You realize the 2 aren't mutually exclusive.

Yes Trump lies. But that doesn't mean the media isn't going off the rails a bit.
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very true. but when there is a fire, you have to throw water on it. and the example of the breast feeding situation is not the media "going off the rails". the media is hyperpartisan -- sure. that doesnt mean everything we hear cannot be trusted.

i find myself cross-referencing stories and looking up footnotes -- even when i read a story on the NYT or CNN. sort of a hassle, but a necessary evil these days. also, it doesnt do much good when the source of a story is an "unnamed source" or "persons close to the investigation"
 
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SSdoc33 said:
very true. but when there is a fire, you have to throw water on it. and the example of the breast feeding situation is not the media "going off the rails". the media is hyperpartisan -- sure. that doesnt mean everything we hear cannot be trusted.

i find myself cross-referencing stories and looking up footnotes -- even when i read a story on the NYT or CNN. sort of a hassle, but a necessary evil these days. also, it doesnt do much good when the source of a story is an "unnamed source" or "persons close to the investigation"
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And I think that's part of the problem. The way you fight Trump is making sure that your news stories are as flawless as possible. Every time some ****ty news story gets debunked or proven wrong, that just gives Trump more credence when he shrieks "fake news". You know, like this one: NBC News reporter deletes tweet claiming Trump, Kennedy were in cahoots over Kavanaugh selection

Now Trump can use this if/when NBC actually does break a real story.
 
lying like "you can keep your doctor" and "you can keep your plan"....that kind of lying?

....the media has been telling us what to think for decades. Where was your outrage? My family had enough brainwashing in Cuba and Venezuela. Like i said, i watch all the channels......the media is so blatantly and maliciously biased. Even this AM at the NATO summit, liberal news is having a fit because Trump will be "the destruction"of NATO. Some of the breakfast was on camera and the NATO secretary actually said that other countries were paying more due to Trump's leadership(58 second mark). Trump was criticizing Germany for being married to Russian energy. Of course CNN and MSNBC didnt say anything about that, only that Trump is going to destroy the NATO alliance. No Russian collusion this week?

 
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Doctodd said:
lying like "you can keep your doctor" and "you can keep your plan"....that kind of lying?

....the media has been telling us what to think for decades. Where was your outrage? My family had enough brainwashing in Cuba and Venezuela.
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there is no moral equivalency between trump and obama.

you are pretty useless right now in this thread.
 
SSdoc33 said:
there is no moral equivalency between trump and obama.

you are pretty useless right now in this thread.
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Obama was a much better liar. Too bad his legacy is being wiped away...thank God for that.
 
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1. Obama’s statements were rated “pants on fire” by politifact. There goes your theory that politifact is always biased...

2. Obama made most of those statements before the law went into effect. It’s commonly ignored by conservatives that the law was changed from the original conception to what was passed, instead focusing on a”lie”. Don’t tell me that hasn’t happened to trump with all the laws he has gotten passed... oh wait. Besides tax change, what law has he gotten passed??? (Executive orders are not law.)
 
you are right....because the rhino's are corrupt as well. Trump cant write legislation....congress does. He can write EO's though.....wiping away the record number of EO's by Obama. Trump is the magnifying glass and shakeup Washington needed. Hopefully we will both be happy with the end result of this Washington shakeup.
 
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since NATO is in the news today.....how do u feel about the US spending compared to other countries? Should Trump be praised or faulted for bringing it to light? Your liberal media is only painting this one way...."Trump will lead to the destruction of NATO alliances with the US"

The US has borne the brunt of NATO costs vis a vis defense spending and presence since NATO was established. The other member countries have shirked the responsibility of their own defense since NATO was established. All presidents have voiced this position. Trump voices it with emphasis, and calls out the shirkers. Do you give Trump any credit?
 
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I have no qualms with us asking other countries to contribute more to NATO, I don't necessarily agree with his approach.
 
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lonelobo said:
I have no qualms with us asking other countries to contribute more to NATO, I don't necessarily agree with his approach.
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u dont even know what his approach is....you are not part of the process....u only hear what the media tells you. Ill guess you dont like the way he says things.....but if other presidents even tried, they probably said these things nicely or diplomatically, and had zero results.

My point being.... the media is painting him to be the destructor of NATO. They have zero credibility....Trump deserves no credit for their lack of credibility....they do a good job of destroying their credibility all by themselves.
 
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You assuming that liberal media only portrays the negativity be aspect of telling NATO to pay more is an outright lie.





To start.

Stop generalizing. It makes you look uninformed.

Sorry can’t upload link on phone
cnn.com/politics/2018/07/11/barbara-starr-nato-secretary-general-jens-stoltenberg-intv-vpx.cnn
 
VA Hopeful Dr said:
Yeah I'm sure people haven't been predicting that for as long as there have been political parties...
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Agreed. But trump is chaotic evil. At least give me a lawful evil GOP president...
 
SSdoc33 said:
like this sort of credibility? -- a quote from Trump

".....the Democrats, who want Open Borders and Unlimited Crime, well into the future...."

nothing trump says is true
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Do you deny the Democrats want open borders? Your party is calling for open borders and the abolition of ICE every day. No borders guarantees unlimited crime. I see nothing untrue about this statement.
 
If the Democratic Party wasn't hell-bent on staying unified in a vain attempt to obstruct everything Trump, he would cross over and do some deals, like infrastructure. He has no love or loyalty for Republican politicians and would love to tell them off and do whatever he wants. This would cause mayhem and division among Republicans and save the Democratic Party. Unfortunately it looks like Democrats would rather wallow in their own filth. At least they're together I guess...
 
SSdoc33 said:
Agreed. But trump is chaotic evil. At least give me a lawful evil GOP president...
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Ok, that's actually pretty good.

See I'm still convinced he's some combination of chaotic stupid and narcissistic greedy.

I think he's not actually trying to ruin everything, he's just not used to being defied and thinks he knows better than everyone else what should be done.
 
Ligament said:
Do you deny the Democrats want open borders? Your party is calling for open borders and the abolition of ICE every day. No borders guarantees unlimited crime. I see nothing untrue about this statement.
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then you, sir, are a lost cause.

there are some left wingers calling for the abolition of ICE. I happen to disagree with them, but nobody wants "open borders" or "unlimited crime". get a clue, dude.
 
Doctodd said:
u dont even know what his approach is....you are not part of the process....u only hear what the media tells you. Ill guess you dont like the way he says things.....but if other presidents even tried, they probably said these things nicely or diplomatically, and had zero results.

My point being.... the media is painting him to be the destructor of NATO. They have zero credibility....Trump deserves no credit for their lack of credibility....they do a good job of destroying their credibility all by themselves.
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guess my eyes deceive
 
Doctodd said:
lmao.....you are using CNN and Hollywood to analyze body language, and "squirming"? This is pure gold.
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I could give a sh't abut the body language, I am more concerned about his actual "language" used to talk to one of our strongest allies.
it is quite obvious his staff is embarrassed though...
 
lonelobo said:
I could give a sh't abut the body language, I am more concerned about his actual "language" used to talk to one of our strongest allies.
it is quite obvious his staff is embarrassed though...
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Things he said?(mean things?)....you guys twist whatever he says, so who cares.....regardless, his results speak for themselves when NATO starts paying what they should be paying. Previous presidents said things nicely and the results were ZERO. What do you prefer? You want to be coddled like a 6 y/o?

I wasnt sure if you had flipped to my side....that you know what his staff was thinking based on what a homosexual CNN anchor and Hollyweird tell you to think.....you make my point for me that you get your talking points from the liberal media....it's priceless. I didnt even see an eyeroll......but CNN and you call it squirming. LMAO. All you needed was Stormy, and a scumbag lawyer Avenatti to complete the jackpot of telling you what to think.

Think about this.....Germany has now "officialized" a gas line deal with Putin....maybe that is what Trump's staff felt uncomfortable about. The entire NATO summit was supposed to be scripted photo-ops.....Trump threw them for a big loop. Now you know the context of what Trump was saying, instead of what CNN/Cooper and Hollywood is telling you.
 
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Doctodd said:
Things he said?(mean things?)....you guys twist whatever he says, so who cares.....regardless, his results speak for themselves when NATO starts paying what they should be paying. Previous presidents said things nicely and the results were ZERO. What do you prefer? You want to be coddled like a 6 y/o?

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Boy genius , you do realize these nations agreed to increase their spending to 2% of GDP under Obama administration in 2014 and despite all his bluster they have agreed to nothing else
 
Doctodd said:
I wasnt sure if you had flipped to my side....that you know what his staff was thinking based on what a homosexual CNN anchor and Hollyweird tell you to think.....you make my point for me that you get your talking points from the liberal media....it's priceless. I didnt even see an eyeroll......but CNN and you call it squirming. LMAO. All you needed was Stormy, and a scumbag lawyer Avenatti to complete the jackpot of telling you what to think.
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Being a Hompphobe really bolsters your argument, but then I guess I would expect nothing less from you
 
lonelobo said:
I could give a sh't abut the body language, I am more concerned about his actual "language" used to talk to one of our strongest allies.
it is quite obvious his staff is embarrassed though...
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Can you imagine if he had said the opposite and tried to downplay Russia's influence on Germany?

I have to admit I find these shows entertaining, Rachel Maddow too. I wonder how many people like me drive the ratings of these shows...
 
lonelobo said:
Being a Hompphobe really bolsters your argument, but then I guess I would expect nothing less from you
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Of course you missed the point entirely and ignored the rest of the post. The point being that your side chooses certain people to question the integrity/morality of others, like porn stars, lawyers, crooked democrat politicians, Hollywood, and homosexual news anchors. You think it bolsters your credibility to get your talking points and education from them?
 
Doctodd said:
Of course you missed the point entirely and ignored the rest of the post. The point being that your side chooses certain people to question the integrity/morality of others, like porn stars, lawyers, crooked democrat politicians, Hollywood, and homosexual news anchors. You think it bolsters your credibility to get your talking points and education from them?
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The only reason a Porn star is involved is because the president made a habit of F'cking them and paying them off?
So you are saying Homosexuals have less integrity/ Morality? If not why do you even mention a person's sexuality?
Please tell me what "unbiased" source you get your news from? If you don't say Fox and Briebart , then we all know you are a liar
 
lonelobo said:
The only reason a Porn star is involved is because the president made a habit of F'cking them and paying them off?
So you are saying Homosexuals have less integrity/ Morality? If not why do you even mention a person's sexuality?
Please tell me what "unbiased" source you get your news from? If you don't say Fox and Briebart , then we all know you are a liar
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I watch them all. I don’t read Breitbart. I see the bias on The left. CNN helps one candidate by giving them debate questions, employes the DNC chair person, and is constantly reporting hate. It’s pretty obvious.
 
Doctodd said:
lmao.....you are using CNN and Hollywood to analyze body language, and "squirming"? This is pure gold.
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I see you changed your original post to remove the homophobic slur.

you are embarrassing yourself.
 
hyperalgesia said:
Really no correct answer here when you're talking about political news, nothing is unbiased.
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I agree, but I hear all these arguments against the "Liberal media" not about the right wing media Sinclair, Fox , Drudge
 
SSdoc33 said:
I see you changed your original post to remove the homophobic slur.

you are embarrassing yourself.
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i edited a few things....a slur was not one of them because there were no slurs in my original post. You guys wanna call me racist too? Go ahead....u guys are on a roll.
 
lonelobo said:
The only reason a Porn star is involved is because the president made a habit of F'cking them and paying them off?
So you are saying Homosexuals have less integrity/ Morality? If not why do you even mention a person's sexuality?
Please tell me what "unbiased" source you get your news from? If you don't say Fox and Briebart , then we all know you are a liar
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A 60 y/o is banging pornstars?....so what. We already went over this. Only liberal cry babies care about what he did or what ******* he grabbed 10 years ago.

Your side goes waaaaay past "biased"....outright fabrication, collusion, hateful division, etc.....the list goes on. Fox doesnt fabricate news. Fox didnt help rig the election against Bernie Sanders. Fox didnt give one side debate questions....you do see the magnitude of giving debate questions in advance right before a debate in front of millions of American voters, dont you? And im not just accusing CNN or the liberal media of just being biased.....i dont care about that. It's much more than that.
 
Doctodd said:
A 60 y/o is banging pornstars?....so what. We already went over this. Only liberal cry babies care about what he did or what ******* he grabbed 10 years ago.

Your side goes waaaaay past "biased"....outright fabrication, collusion, hateful division, etc.....the list goes on. Fox doesnt fabricate news. Fox didnt help rig the election against Bernie Sanders. Fox didnt give one side debate questions....you do see the magnitude of giving debate questions in advance right before a debate in front of millions of American voters, dont you? And im not just accusing CNN or the liberal media of just being biased.....i dont care about that. It's much more than that.
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You sure you didn't get that PRP injected directly into your Brainstem a couple months ago?

In your Jaded mind Fox news is the voice of reason, even folks that that have your same political slant are laughing at that.

It is only a matter of time.....
Russian officers indicted for allegedly hacking Clinton campaign, DNC emails
 
Doctodd said:
A 60 y/o is banging pornstars?....so what. We already went over this. Only liberal cry babies care about what he did or what ******* he grabbed 10 years ago.

Your side goes waaaaay past "biased"....outright fabrication, collusion, hateful division, etc.....the list goes on. Fox doesnt fabricate news. And im not just accusing CNN or the liberal media of just being biased.....i dont care about that. It's much more than that.
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really...

Fox News apologises for Kerry fabrication

FOX NEWS INSIDER: "Stuff Is Just Made Up"

Family of Seth Rich Sues Fox News Over Retracted Article

Olbermann: FOX News Fabricated Facts About Black Panther Story | RealClearPolitics

Fox News apologizes after coming under fire for using photos of Eagles players praying during segment on NFL anthem dispute

and politifact might be biased, but...

Fact-checking Fox, MSNBC and CNN: PunditFact's network scorecards

note that they felt that MSNBC had 45% false claims, Fox 58%, but CNN was only 22%. so yes, there is bias all over. and a possible liberal leaning organization states that a different liberal organization is lying almost 50% yet another one is only lying 22%. a big difference.



I agree, but I hear all these arguments against the "Liberal media" not about the right wing media Sinclair, Fox , Drudge
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im more worried about Alex Jones/Infowars, people like Milo Yannopoulos, those outright lying about topics of discussion.
 
SSdoc33 said:
then you, sir, are a lost cause.

there are some left wingers calling for the abolition of ICE. I happen to disagree with them, but nobody wants "open borders" or "unlimited crime". get a clue, dude.
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"nobody" wants open borders? Are you kidding? Democrats are calling for this all the time.
 
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Ducttape said:
really...

Fox News apologises for Kerry fabrication

FOX NEWS INSIDER: "Stuff Is Just Made Up"

Family of Seth Rich Sues Fox News Over Retracted Article

Olbermann: FOX News Fabricated Facts About Black Panther Story | RealClearPolitics

Fox News apologizes after coming under fire for using photos of Eagles players praying during segment on NFL anthem dispute

and politifact might be biased, but...

Fact-checking Fox, MSNBC and CNN: PunditFact's network scorecards

note that they felt that MSNBC had 45% false claims, Fox 58%, but CNN was only 22%. so yes, there is bias all over. and a possible liberal leaning organization states that a different liberal organization is lying almost 50% yet another one is only lying 22%. a big difference.

im more worried about Alex Jones/Infowars, people like Milo Yannopoulos, those outright lying about topics of discussion.
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The Milo who was silenced by the left and not allowed to speak at multiple rallies?.....and where riots occurred because of his appearance? Kinda like Kanye West who was ostracized and shut out by his own circle of celebrity friends for his support of Trump.

Im going to end this thread with agreeing with every link and article you posted.....but i still would not vote for a democrat. Id still rather have Trump than a corrupt, freedom stealing, superficially charismatic, politician piece of garbage from your side. Have a great weekend.
 
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