2017-2018 University of California - San Francisco

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Yes, I am a reapplicant and got a secondary.

Same here.

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[cloudcomputingunicorn]

Where was this Q&A session?

At my college. I wouldn't be surprised if there are delays but back in spring the plan was to start interviews in August.

 

[Killa_T]

MSAR states that UCSF doesn't send out IIs until September 1st at the earliest...they must have changed their minds

Yea, that's a bit strange. There's also only 1 reported II so I'm pretty skeptical.

I saw this too. This is another reason I was so shocked that they sent me one.

 

[DBC03]

I saw this too. This is another reason I was so shocked that they sent me one.

I think we all have to remember that the MSAR is a compilation of last year's data, so we can only use it as a guideline at this point.

 

[hotcheetomania]

I think we all have to remember that the MSAR is a compilation of last year's data, so we can only use it as a guideline at this point.

That's true for information about last year's class, but information about when IIs and acceptances come out is for this current cycle since the dates are for this year.

 

[DBC03]

That's true for information about last year's class, but information about when IIs and acceptances come out is for this current cycle since the dates are for this year.

Good point! Although it sounds like many of the schools are basing that on last year, so they may actually change their policies for this year. I figure it's a good guideline, but I've heard of a few people who have gotten interviews before they expected to.

 

[Pharaoh95]

I saw this too. This is another reason I was so shocked that they sent me one.

I'm certainly not calling you a liar for reporting your II. But you can't really blame others for questioning the validity of posts claiming interview invites considering the significant amount of trolling lately.

 

[Killa_T]

I'm certainly not calling you a liar for reporting your II. But you can't really blame others for questioning the validity of posts claiming interview invites considering the significant amount of trolling lately.

I don't blame you for questioning. As I've said, even I am surprised. However, I do have an interview scheduled in September and, like everyone else, I'm just hoping for the best. It's up to you to decide if you want to believe me or not. I have nothing to prove to anyone but myself.

 

[jayCiabata]

II yesterday! Makes n=2 to hopefully convince people it's true. LizzyM 77, IS, ORM, decent research experience.

Edit: complete 7/11

 

[7331poas]

II yesterday! Makes n=2 to hopefully convince people it's true. LizzyM 77, IS, ORM, decent research experience.

Edit: complete 7/11

Did you write an optional essay?

 

[jayCiabata]

Did you write an optional essay?

Nope, I did not. I'm on a gap year so I did write that essay, but that's it.

 

[hebrewBAMmer]

People already getting II and I keep F5ing my email to see if I'll get a secondary

 

[TheBiologist]

hey dumb question what does n=1 or n=2 etc. mean?

 

[hebrewBAMmer]

hey dumb question what does n=1 or n=2 etc. mean?

Sample size

 

[TheBiologist]

Sample size

... lol and what does it mean in the context of SDN

 

[hebrewBAMmer]

... lol and what does it mean in the context of SDN

How many people satisfy the condition. For example, "II yesterday, n=2" means now we know at least 2 people have gotten IIs

 

[bond0072]

haha he means it in the sense of a sample size. Two cases of interviews is an n=2. three interviews would be n=3. Idea being the larger a sample size the more generalizable it is. Of course in this case it's more of a funny stats reference than useful.

 

[willow84]

People already getting II and I keep F5ing my email to see if I'll get a secondary

Same I know friends with similar stats and ECs to me who got a secondary weeks ago. I'm about to give up hope.

 

[choclatjalapeno]

II today! Complete 7/11, URM, LizzyM 75, IS, solid research (no pubs)

 

[RobertSacamano]

Any OOS IIs yet?

 

[Kasra321]

People already getting II and I keep F5ing my email to see if I'll get a secondary

Don't worry. UCSF actually reads the primary applications, that's why it takes them so long to extend secondaries/interviews.


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[Pharaoh95]

Don't worry. UCSF actually reads the primary applications, that's why it takes them so long to extend secondaries/interviews.


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Do you (or anyone) know if they look at LOR's when deciding who to send a secondary to?

 

[hotcheetomania]

Do you (or anyone) know if they look at LOR's when deciding who to send a secondary to?

I'm not sure, but I overheard someone in another thread that LORs are particularly important for UCSF?

 

[ThisIsFine.]

I think this may have been previously asked, and I'm assuming maybe the numbers are not made public, but does anyone know approximately how many secondaries UCSF extends relative to the entire applicant pool?

And if it's of any help to anyone, I added UCSF 7/20; received secondary 8/7. LizzyM 74. OOS. Regular MD. Research definitely wasn't the highlight of my app (an arts major), but I do have some experience.

 

[DBC03]

Do you (or anyone) know if they look at LOR's when deciding who to send a secondary to?

Someone in the office told me to send mine in and I got a secondary within 2 hours. I'm not sure if it is a coincidence but it might help (unless your LORs are bad)


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[mim-osa]

Secondary just received!!! So stoked/surprised about this because I was 100% ready for this rejection.
OOS. Primary sent to them 7/19.

 

[dr. hermione]

Someone in the office told me to send mine in and I got a secondary within 2 hours. I'm not sure if it is a coincidence but it might help (unless your LORs are bad)


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I got a secondary before submitting LORs, but maybe it could help?

 

[Pleides]

Do you (or anyone) know if they look at LOR's when deciding who to send a secondary to?

LORs aren't needed for screening. But maybe they'll consider them if they're already in.

 

[Kasra321]

Do you (or anyone) know if they look at LOR's when deciding who to send a secondary to?

I attended their admission workshop a few months ago. As far as I can remember, they said they look at LOR's only after you submit your secondary. But they look at your activities, grades, and PS before they send extend secondary applications.

 

[lordoftherings]

II just now!

 

[KingHourGlass]

II just now!

When were you complete!?

 

[lordoftherings]

When were you complete!?

I submitted the secondary July 10th, but didn't get an email confirmation past that.

 

[dfa1513]

Is there historical data on how many of the ~8000 applicants receive secondaries? Sorry if this question has been asked.

 

[zasxd]

Is there historical data on how many of the ~8000 applicants receive secondaries? Sorry if this question has been asked.

I think it's around 2500.

 

[n8db8]

II received today. LizzyM 71. so pumped. definitely my dream school.

 

[dfa1513]

I think it's around 2500.

Thanks for the response! Source though?
I think on their website they have the MSTP numbers, but I couldn't find the numbers for MD only.

Correct me if I'm wrong!

 

[zasxd]

Thanks for the response! Source though?
I think on their website they have the MSTP numbers, but I couldn't find the numbers for MD only.

Correct me if I'm wrong!

I think US news has the numbers if you pay. I saw it on Reddit.

 

[KingHourGlass]

II received today. LizzyM 71. so pumped. definitely my dream school.

When’d you complete?

 

[halamadrid17]

Secondary received and submitted

 

[premeds_r_dumb_123]

Anyone know how UCSF goes about screening between secondary and II? I just got my secondary and noticed that you technically don't have to write a single essay for it, which means that they potentially just screen you again based on your primary?

 

[bond0072]

Anyone know how UCSF goes about screening between secondary and II? I just got my secondary and noticed that you technically don't have to write a single essay for it, which means that they potentially just screen you again based on your primary?

That plus LORs I think. They probably take a more in depth review of our primaries though

 

[neuroyale]

I can imagine how hard it would be to review our primaries again more in depth... What percentage of those who submitted secondaries is selected for the interviews?

 

[premeds_r_dumb_123]

I can imagine how hard it would be to review our primaries again more in depth... What percentage of those who submitted secondaries is selected for the interviews?

I thought I'd read somewhere that the numbers go something like 8000 (primary) -> 2500 (secondary) -> 500 (II) -> ~200 (accept)

 

[hotcheetomania]

I can imagine how hard it would be to review our primaries again more in depth... What percentage of those who submitted secondaries is selected for the interviews?

Based on last year, 500 out of 2500 are interviewed.

 

[WhittyPsyche]

I thought I'd read somewhere that the numbers go something like 8000 (primary) -> 2500 (secondary) -> 500 (II) -> ~200 (accept)

This is roughly correct.


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[TheBiologist]

are they done sending out secondaries? I didn't get one

 

[DBC03]

are they done sending out secondaries? I didn't get one

I doubt it. It took me at least a month and I think they are still reviewing up through the application deadline.


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[sss1219]

are they done sending out secondaries? I didn't get one

+1. Got one pretty immediately when I applied 2 years ago and also did an MS there so getting kinda worried now

 

[n8db8]

When’d you complete?

Hey, I submitted amcas july 2nd.

 

[7331poas]

Hey, I submitted amcas july 2nd.

When did you submit your secondary with all letters in?