2009-2010 University of Arizona Application Thread

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Hey Everyone! I haven't posted in a while, so thought I would say hi!

I have been practicing for the band all week too Erik.

MadeIn and Paiger, so happy you are one spot closer! Come on waitlist!

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Thanks guys. More than anything, it is nice to have made a decision and to begin planning on something, rather than hypotheticals. I think this app cycle took 12 years off of my life.

And as I watched Amare dominate last night I was reminded that I will not be visiting US Airways arena in the near future. Fortunately the Warriors are terrible- will likely be until we are all through residency, and tickets are easy to come by when the Suns come to town.

Go Suns and Go Waitlist
 
So my worst nightmare did not come true - that WL movement would come to a complete and agonizing halt, and we'd never get past WL numbers of old, namely 55. :cool: Of course, we knew that earlier thanks to nasappah, but as of 11:50 we're at 58 :D I'll call again later to make sure we know what it is after the entire day. I'll have an updated plot after work, and after I workout. Suns just have to do that 3 more times (meaning close out a close game with LA). The only time LA has lost after being up 2-0 was when the '93 Suns went to the finals - it could happen again :D

Tucson:

Waitlist Position-
14) SmokeyGray - IS; ACCEPTED 03/22/10. 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS; ACCEPTED 03/30/10. 3 other acceptances, waiting on 5
17) tmm808 - IS; ACCEPTED 04/13/10. 3 other acceptances
20) SurfdudeJD - IS; ACCEPTED 04/21/10 waiting on 3 others
34) Indiana06 - OOS; ACCEPTED 05/10/10 Accepted @ Phx
39) Nasappah - OOS; ACCEPTED 05/13/10 2 other acceptances, couple waitlists
40) HappyT - IS; ACCEPTED 05/13/10 0 other waitlists; 0 other acceptances
42) ACE28 - IS; ACCEPTED 05/14/10
46) ehandber - IS; ACCEPTED 05/14/10 0 other acceptances/applications.
49) MedHopeful777 - IS, ACCEPTED 05/17/10 0 other waitlists, 0 other acceptances
54) kj92086 - ACCEPTED 05/17/10
61) MadeInReydn - IS; ACCEPTED 06/01/10 1 other acceptance (Set on UA, not sure which campus)
62) paiger - IS; 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
63) jlamee
81) Happyglucky - IS; 2 other acceptances, waiting on 1
82) 7franks
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS; 0 other acceptances
93) countryboydoc - IS; Accepted @ Phx, 2 other acceptances, 3 waitlists, waiting on 3 more
121) sunny1 - IS
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)

Phoenix:

Waitlist date-
IS:
03/04
happyglucky - IS--ACCEPTED 03/24/10
Who Dat Nation - IS ACCEPTED 04/06/10
Brahms2010 - IS ACCEPTED 05/07/10
MadeInReydn - IS ACCEPTED 05/18/10 (WL'd #61 @ Tucson)
2 LEGIT 2 QUIT - IS
7franks - IS
bminz - IS (Set on Phoenix)
chagramama- IS
Ehandber - IS (WL'd #46 @ Tucson)
Opt79- IS

03/12
aztri- IS ACCEPTED 05/18/10 (WL'd #89 @Tucson)
paiger- IS (WL'd #62 @ Tucson)

OOS:
03/05
nyyfan65 - OOS; ACCEPTED 04/16/10
DancinSarah - OOS
JMJ777 - OOS; 1 acceptance, 1 other waitlist
Meducated - OOS
Nasappah - OOS
Phosphorus Ylide - OOS; 1 other acceptance (Will decline and accept Phoenix, if taken off the WL)
ShameFame - OOS

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TUCSON

Entering Fall 2007:

Around 4/28: 10
Around 5/15: 38
By matriculation day: 53-54

Entering Fall 2008:

3/24 (12 days): 3
3/25 (13 days): 5
4/04 (3 ½ weeks): 12
4/07 (4 weeks): 13
4/10 Tucson and PHX 2nd Look
4/22 (6 weeks): 18
4/28 (6 ½ weeks): 20
5/01 (7 weeks): 25
5/08 (8 weeks): 32
5/12 (8 ½ weeks): 33
5/15 (9 weeks): 39
5/19 (9 ½ weeks): 42
5/23 (10 ½ weeks): 48
5/27 (11 weeks): 49
6/03 (12 weeks): 52
6/05 (12 weeks): 57
6/11 (13 weeks): 59
7/28 (19 ½ weeks): 63
Matriculation day: 65

Entering Fall 2009:

3/18 (7 days): 6
3/25 (2 weeks): 10
3/30 (2 ½ weeks): 11
4/01 (3 weeks): 13
4/08 (4 weeks): 15
4/09-11: Tucson and PHX 2nd Look
4/15 (5 weeks): 17
4/27 (6 ½ weeks): 19
5/04 (7 ½ weeks): 23
5/11 (8 ½ weeks): 25
5/15 (9 weeks): 32
5/18 (9 ½ weeks): 37
5/21 (10 weeks): 40
5/29 (11 weeks): 44
6/05 (12 ½ weeks): 47
7/08 (17 weeks): 49
7/28 (19 ½ weeks): 51
Matriculation day: 55

Entering Fall 2010:

3/15 (3 days): 13
3/22 (10 days): 14
3/30 (2 ½ weeks): 16
4/08-10: PHX 2nd Look
4/13 (4 weeks): 17
4/21 (5 ½ weeks): 20
4/23: Tucson 2nd Look
4/23 (6 weeks): 22
4/25 (6 weeks): 23
5/05 (7 ½ weeks): 28
5/07 (8 weeks): 29
5/10 (8 ½ weeks): 34
5/12 (8 ½ weeks): 38
5/13 (9 weeks): 41
5/14 (9 weeks): 47
5/17 (9 ½ weeks): 54
5/19 (10 weeks): 55
5/24 (10 ½ weeks): 58
6/01 (11 ½ weeks): 61
 
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MadeIn you are SO close! I had a feeling there would be more movement over the weekend :)
 
Today's email update from PHX suggests that the may 15th WL movement has pretty well died off. ugh.
 
58 already? shoot! getting to 82 (my spot on the waitlist) doesn't sound so impossible anymore!
 
Today's email update from PHX suggests that the may 15th WL movement has pretty well died off. ugh.

It seemed optimistic (movement through mid June) and Tara's ppt was informative. I haven't received anything even close from another school. I continue to be impressed by Phoenix.
 
Sorry it's late. I changed the axis scale back to 70 not because I think it has no chance of getting over 70, but because it kept messing with formatting. I'll have to figure out what's going on.

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Could someone who got Phoenix's WL information share some of the details? Thanks! :D
 
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Not much in the way of hard numbers. But here is a copy of the e-mail she sent out. There is also a powerpoint attached to the e-mail but I can't seem to post that here.

Good afternoon,

The national traffic deadline of May 15th has expired and our entering class of 2010 is taking firmer shape; however, anyone of our confirmed medical students has the ability to hold a position on a waitlist elsewhere, including our Tucson campus. Of course, you likely have an acceptance offer elsewhere, while holding your waitlisted position with us. As result, the season remains unpredictable and subject to change. Historically, our class takes shape by the middle of June and is confirmed the first day of Orientation (July 19, 2010).

We recognize the timing and unpredictability of the season puts you in a tough spot if you are considering reapplying for the 2011 season. Notwithstanding the financial implication of reapplying, you are likely busy thinking of your strategy and how to best capitalize on the work you put into the AMCAS for last year. Attached is a PowerPoint presentation I delivered earlier this month at our state universities, highlighting the competitive pool of applicants and information to self-reflect upon when identifying perceived weaknesses within your application. You might find it useful/helpful as you refresh your application, if necessary.

Choosing to reapply while waiting for the final class to take shape is an individual decision and one that I know is weighing heavily on you. While I cannot answer this question for you, I do want to express our continued interest in you as a viable student whom we would happily have join our College of Medicine-Phoenix program. Regardless of the season outcome, I do hope you get what you deserve and your hard work and dedication are rewarded.

Lastly, if you are no longer interested in holding a position on our waitlist, please kindly inform us. Your colleagues remaining on the list will appreciate the update. No action is required of you if you plan to stick it out with us for the rest of the season.

Take care,
Tara
 
Dug this up, from back on Dec 1st, and it's by none other than 'da boat'! I found it helpful :) I guess it's a good opportunity to reminisce Erik!

Thanks DancinSarah! :D

TUCSON-

My first interview was in Tucson. Mine took place on a Monday, and I intentionally selected the one at 2pm to make sure I would have plenty of time to get down there. As it turns out, those who are scheduled for an interview at 11:00am must arrive at 10:30, half an hour early. Those who are scheduled for an interview at 2:00pm must arrive at 11:45am. This was a bit surprising, but I still managed to make it down there in time. I was a little annoyed that I wasn't told that before-hand because I would obviously have chosen to simply arrive 30 minutes earlier!

The Tucson campus was very nice, and the students went out of their way to walk up and offer to answer questions or just talk about life there. It was easy for them to guess what I was doing because I was wearing a suit and reading the posters on the wall that they all walk by everyday. While standing in the hallway prior to check-in I, personally, had 3 students walk up and congratulate me and wish me luck. One told me not to worry and said he remembered standing and waiting just like I was doing.

I found my way to the admissions office around 11:30am and went to check in. When I told the woman behind the desk my name she seemed very confused that I wasn't on her list. After about a minute that all got sorted out (I don't know what happened...) and she handed me a folder with some information about the school as well as a name tag, and instructed me to wait down the hall with the other students there to interview. I was relieved I had not arrived on the wrong day, but it worried me that the very first thing that happened was a problem.

I met down the hall with 6 or 8 other hopefuls (some having already interviewed in the morning) and we waited until around 12:00pm when one first-year and one second-year student arrived and said they were going to take us to lunch. We headed through the campus and up to lunch, (sandwiches in bags, which were actually pretty good. I had the chicken salad on a croissant), we ate lunch and had an informal conversation about who we were, what life was like on campus, and what we all thought of the whole process. We then did a tour of the campus and heard a bit about the curriculum and financial aid. They assured us they had no connection whatsoever to the admissions process and were only there to make us feel more comfortable. I hope they were serious because I took that as an invitation to loosen my tie and take off my jacket, which was already becoming a nuisance.

The tour was modest but interesting. They didn't go out of their way to point out anything as being extremely cool, but offered realistic assessments of the usefulness of certain things. We were shown the pathology classroom where students use giant plasma screens to examine tissue, a few classrooms which seemed nice, and a very lived-in student lounge. In fact, there were ~15 students in the lounge as we walked through, and 4 of them were playing mario-kart on a big screen in the back room of the lounge while the rest chatted in the main room. They spent some time describing their first experiences in the simulated-patient exam rooms, and noted the cameras that link to "big brother," so that you can get feedback on your progress. That was unnerving, but it did make me think they were trying innovative things to enhance the learning experience during the first 2 years.

After all of this was done it was time for me to do my interview. We said goodbye to those students who had done the 11:00am interviews and headed back to the admissions office for our interviewer-assignment. I received my assignment, listed simply in the John Doe, Ph.D. (Discipline) format. My assignment was to a Ph.D. in one of the biological sciences, two others interviewed with MDs, and one hopeful interviewed with an MD, PhD. We were then either given directions, or ushered to our faculty member's office. Luckily I was personally guided, and knocked on the door. I was not particularly excited when I saw my assignment because I worried that the interviewer and I would have very little in common, but luckily again, I was wrong.

The interview was "closed," meaning that he had never seen any of my information aside from my name. We met, and he asked me to simply tell him about myself. As do most people, I stumbled a bit when I tried to explain "myself," but I felt that I got into the swing-of-things pretty quickly. With no desk between us and such open questions it felt very much like a conversation with a friend. As luck would have it, we had a lot in common! We talked a bit about medicine, a bit about life, a bit about education, and the interview ended when I said I didn't want to take up any further of his time (we had already surpassed our hour) and we shook hands and I thanked him.

Walking out of his office was the official "end" to the interview process in Tucson for me, and I was able to go straight home.

Overall the experience in Tucson was very friendly and I felt very welcomed by the students, and put at ease by the tone of the interview. The only time I felt out-of-place was driving away from the campus when two young students in an SUV that was *blasting* music hung out of their windows and insulted me about my car. I laughed it off as I reflected on how happy I was about the way the interview felt.

Phoenix-

My second interview was in Phoenix. I felt a bit more confident about this interview when I was going there, based simply on the fact that I had already had an interview in Tucson and felt it went well. I knew before I went in that I had a bias toward Phoenix as that is where I was from so that added enough nervousness to keep me from getting a particularly good night's rest, despite my the confidence from Tucson.

I knew this interview process was scheduled to start at 8-something, and we were told to arrive by 8am. Having ridden the light rail from Tempe the previous weekend I knew that it took 50minutes on the rail, so I figured it would take around 40 minutes by car in morning traffic. It ended up taking 12 minutes, placing my arrival time right around 7:15am. When I got to the campus I realized that there were no signs directing us where to go, and none of the buildings were open to the public. After ringing the buzzer at building-1 I realized that nobody was even in the building yet. With it too early for the local businesses to be open I decided to simply wait there. In about 15 minutes one of the custodians opened the door to let me in. I feel like there is (or should be) an old saying that "When you wear suit and act like you belong somewhere people will let you in just about anywhere!"

I waited in the main waiting room for about 15 minutes when finally another student hopeful came and sat in the chair next to me. The custodian had let him in as well. It was a few minutes more until the receptionist arrived and suggested we go to the conference room in the back where they had set up breakfast for us. She didn't tell us that we could eat, but by that point I was quite bored and figured they wouldn't be too upset if I started!

I was immediately struck by the incredible design and feel of the building we were in. I noted the amazing decorations (student/faculty art, beautiful photography, and classical medical equipment) and the wonderfully comfortable seating. Everything was clearly new, and looked as though it had been purchased at an IKEA, with lots of glass and steel. The walls were also painted colors surprisingly more vibrant than the usual tope, eggshell, off-white, or white. Later, on the tour, I noticed an entire wall painted neon green with a bright orange modern-design couch. The feeling of the buildings was a lot like the feeling of being in a new car, clean while remaining comfortable.

Two first-year students and one second-year student joined us for breakfast and we chatted about everything that we expected and what they liked and disliked about the medical school process. At precisely the time told to us, we were escorted to a conference room upstairs where we were met by folders with nametags, an itinerary for the day, a sheet with the name and a short biography of the faculty chosen to interview each of us, and a rather suggestive piece of paper with "NOTES" printed in its header. A pleasant woman with a surprisingly confident and concise manner greeted us and quickly introduced us to the associate Dean who would give us our orientation. I was impressed by how well-prepared the school was to truly "present" their campus to us. With a powerpoint and what appeared to be a well thought-out orientation we all were introduced to the campus. The incredible organization of this orientation gave it the distinct feeling of a business pitch, aided by the conference room and the powerpoint. This portion of the interview process felt much more formal than it did in Tucson.

We were split into two groups, one to receive the "talks" prior to the interviews and the other (which I was placed in) was to interview first. The fact that they had taken the time to put us on different (pre-assigned) sides of the conference table made me feel- well, if you've ever been to a time-share presentation you'd know. It leaves you with an incredibly positive view, and I enjoyed it very much... but the organization and timeliness was perfect to the point where it was a bit weird.

At the end of the meeting we all were relieved when someone asked for the bathroom, which were all escorted to. Upon leaving the restroom we were greeted by a new faculty member that walked us to our respective interviewer's offices. We were told that our interviewer was selected for us by the admissions faculty after a review of our AMCAS and secondary in order to place us with someone that we'd have something in common with. That was reassuring because I felt as though I'd done well in my first interview because I got along well with the interviewer.

My interviewer was great. He informed me that while they were allowed to choose to do "open" or "closed" interviews, he had opted to simply look at my name and numerical stats. He asked me a few more pointed questions than what I had in Tucson, but still each felt very open and the overall tone was conversational. At one point I even told him that I had hoped he would have asked me a certain question I had a prepared answer to, and he obliged and asked me that question. We focused primarily on medical topics, and after about an hour he thanked me and sent me on my way back to the conference room where i had breakfast. I was relieved that the "hard" part of the day was over, and now (according to my itinerary) I simply had a financial aid (15min) talk, lunch, a goodbye speech, and a tour (optional).

Lunch was fantastic. They let us select from a list of ~15 sandwiches and salads and went and purchased it from Crave, located across the street. There were four med students, two M1 and two M2, that came to eat with us. I removed my jacket, loosened my tie, rolled up my sleeves and truly enjoyed my delicious sandwich. We chatted, very informally, with the students. We discussed everything from medicine, to having a family, to our distaste for admissions essays! And, we were greeted by a familiar faculty face at precisely the time our itinerary said we would be.

The goodbye speech was essentially telling us what the remainder of the process would be like, explaining what to expect, dispelling some myths about the process, and we got a DVD! (Short, sweet commercial for the school). We then were walked to our final leg of the trip, a tour of the campus.

I have only positive things to say about the Phoenix campus, the majority of which relate to the new and modern buildings. Everything was absolutely spotless, the spaces appeared to be well thought out and designed for comfort and convenience. Overall, the campus felt welcoming. Coincidentally, one of the hopefuls I interviewed with at Tucson was also in my interview group in Phoenix and we held back a bit during the tour to discuss how it compared. While Tucson and Phoenix had a lot of the same amenities, there was no question that Phoenix was newer/cleaner. So much so that it felt almost deserted. While we were in the student lounge area there were video games, TV's and even a ping-pong table - but not a student to be seen.

At the end of the tour our guide walked us to the parking lot, thanked us again and assured us that we could contact her with any questions. Having made a new friend in the guy that interviewed with me at both campuses, I caught a ride back to Tempe and we spent the next few hours comparing how we felt about interviewing at both campuses.

Each had their own unique character, but both had a tremendous welcoming and friendly atmospheres. If you do end up interviewing I hope you have the same experiences I did. They were great.

I never thought I would say it but the interview process actually made me much more excited than I already was to have a shot at going to medical school and eventually becoming a doctor.
 
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Hahah! Ya, that was my biggest post ever! I hope it was helpful to anyone who is actually curious about what the interview was like! I thought it was pretty nice for UA.

Anyway- Cool for the Suns! Good win.

And, I hope I make it to medical school. If this summer keeps up on this same pace it has been on I'm not entirely sure... :cool: whatever, worth it.
 
Just called and found out that the waitlist is on number 59. Madein it's coming for us! so exciting!!!!!
 
I'm pullin for you guys! Go go go go go go go!

I am leaving on my month long tour of the country in a couple days so I will more-than-likely not be posting, or at least be very infrequently posting/reading. Also, I'm not shaving/cutting my hair until I absolutely have to when I get back. Should be interesting...

Best of luck to you guys. I can't wait to see you guys in medical school. You're gonna get in... I can feel it!
:cool::D

The boat is OUT!
 
I'm pullin for you guys! Go go go go go go go!

I am leaving on my month long tour of the country in a couple days so I will more-than-likely not be posting, or at least be very infrequently posting/reading. Also, I'm not shaving/cutting my hair until I absolutely have to when I get back. Should be interesting...

Best of luck to you guys. I can't wait to see you guys in medical school. You're gonna get in... I can feel it!
:cool::D

The boat is OUT!

Hey, enjoy your trip Erik! Make sure to document it with photos/videos so we can see your wild adventures :cool:

Just called and found out that the waitlist is on number 59. Madein it's coming for us! so exciting!!!!!

Yeah! :thumbup: I'm thinking we'll get our emails either Friday or Monday :xf: :xf: Though movement hasn't been like 2 weeks ago, it's still following a pretty good pace (4 spots already this week). If the next two weeks are similar, we're looking at upper 60's by mid June :D


If the Suns can somehow keep up their zone defense, and the bench brings its A game at least twice, AND the Celtics finish off the Magic, they'll have HOME COURT in the NBA Finals!!
 
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I think the 3rd trendline will follow the middle line, but could drop a little.

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If the Suns can somehow keep up their zone defense, and the bench brings its A game at least twice, AND the Celtics finish off the Magic, they'll have HOME COURT in the NBA Finals!!

I want to see the Celtics-Magic series go to 7 games, then have Celtics win it. I think we can match up better against the Celtics. Plus, as old as they are as a team, 7 games against the Magic will leave the Celtics pretty worn out by the finals.

If we win game 5, I think we take the series in 6. If we lose game 5, I still think we win game 6, but I have no idea how game 7 would play out in that situation.

Also, I will be keeping my fingers crossed for you to get in this week. I know this waiting sucks, even if you know that acceptance will be on its way, so just try to stay positive. Just remember this stress will toughen you up for all the stress we'll be sharing next year...:p
 
Also, I will be keeping my fingers crossed for you to get in this week. I know this waiting sucks, even if you know that acceptance will be on its way, so just try to stay positive. Just remember this stress will toughen you up for all the stress we'll be sharing next year...:p

Haha, thanks! It's Logan, right?
 
Hey guys...figured I would join after watching for so long and now that the SUNS are getting hot, had to start posting.

I think the suns can take game 5 tonight as long as we have a phenomenal shooting night and as long as the zone continues to work. We def need Frye to show up again and the bench to pull us through and give Nash that crucial rest.

GO SUNS and GO WAITLIST!
 
Haha, thanks! It's Logan, right?

Yup, I'm Logan. I'll probably be sitting up in the front of class...asleep (that's what normally happened in undergrad anyways).

Hey guys...figured I would join after watching for so long and now that the SUNS are getting hot, had to start posting.

I think the suns can take game 5 tonight as long as we have a phenomenal shooting night and as long as the zone continues to work. We def need Frye to show up again and the bench to pull us through and give Nash that crucial rest.

GO SUNS and GO WAITLIST!

Suns came really close tonight. I think they HAVE TO take some positives away from this game. They were down 18 and battled back to nearly force overtime. Yes, I know that is a moral victory, but anytime you battle back from that kind of deficit you have to feel good. The other important thing I saw was that we seemed to figure out how to play them in L.A. In games 1 and 2 we just looked lost. If we can force game 7 in L.A., I think we should have the confidence and comfort playing at the Staple's Center. For game 6, I honestly don't think the Lakers can beat us in Phoenix.

In a related topic, does anyone want to buy me tickets for Saturday's game?
 
This forum is getting SOOOOO quiet! Any updates on the waitlist since Wednesday? Come on waitlist!
 
Yup, I'm Logan. I'll probably be sitting up in the front of class...asleep (that's what normally happened in undergrad anyways).



Suns came really close tonight. I think they HAVE TO take some positives away from this game. They were down 18 and battled back to nearly force overtime. Yes, I know that is a moral victory, but anytime you battle back from that kind of deficit you have to feel good. The other important thing I saw was that we seemed to figure out how to play them in L.A. In games 1 and 2 we just looked lost. If we can force game 7 in L.A., I think we should have the confidence and comfort playing at the Staple's Center. For game 6, I honestly don't think the Lakers can beat us in Phoenix.

In a related topic, does anyone want to buy me tickets for Saturday's game?

Oh we were VERY close! They got extremely lucky and we proved we can take them on home court which is huge. We will win tomorrow at home and then take game 7 on their court! I believe in the Phoenix Suns even if they are the leading cause of heart failure! haha :D

Any news on any movement??
 
This forum is getting SOOOOO quiet! Any updates on the waitlist since Wednesday? Come on waitlist!

Its quiet because of everyone staying on topic. We should be talking about the Suns more...I'd say we could talk about the D-backs, but after watching Haren give up 3 home-runs in a row yesterday, I don't think there is really much to say.

Oh we were VERY close! They got extremely lucky and we proved we can take them on home court which is huge. We will win tomorrow at home and then take game 7 on their court! I believe in the Phoenix Suns even if they are the leading cause of heart failure! haha :D

Any news on any movement??

Yeah, I think its huge from a psychological standpoint that the guys know they can win in L.A. The Lakers have been unbeatable there during the playoffs.

I would be lying though if I said I wasn't nervous about game 6. Our bench players don't do well when they have a lot of pressure on them, so if they come out tight they won't do well. I do have faith in Gentry's ability to coach them up for this game. Like I said before, I do think the Suns will win game 6, but game 7 (if necessary) will be a toss up...a very, very exciting toss up. Back to my first point though, the Suns have proven they have what it takes to win in L.A.
 
As for updates, I think we're still at 59 - we were as of Friday morning (though I'm expecting a few of those accepted during the big run to wait their 2 weeks before deciding to accept or decline). Does anyone know if they're in the office Monday?

That game should have gone to overtime - I know J Rich's 3 was a little lucky, but the Suns really outplayed LA down the stretch. I agree with Logan - if we play with the same 4th quarter intensity today, we win easy in Phoenix, and definitely have a good shot at winning game 7 (unless the officials/big wigs really want LA/Boston and basically take the Suns out of the game). Though it seems everyone wants LA vs. Boston, I think the Suns vs. Boston would be a more interesting matchup - I mean, we have a finals history with Boston too! What about a modern version of 'The Greatest Game' ever played?

About sitting in the front row, Logan, I was a front-rower too - it seemed all the 'gunner' pre-meds were in front. It's funny you fall asleep in front, b/c I would sit there just so I wouldn't fall asleep (although sometimes I would come close). Whenever I was in the back, I had an 86.4% chance of falling asleep! :laugh: What was it like for you guys?
 
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I'm guessing everyone is off celebrating Memorial Day, no? Well, I'm thinking and HOPING paiger and I have some major news for tomorrow :D I'd been forgetting that today was Memorial Day. I'm guessing we move another 3 spots from Friday's 59 :xf::xf::xf:

WHY? WHY are the Suns again denied what they deserve much more than the Lakers? Anyone know what's happening to the roster over the summer?
 
That game should have gone to overtime - I know J Rich's 3 was a little lucky, but the Suns really outplayed LA down the stretch. I agree with Logan - if we play with the same 4th quarter intensity today, we win easy in Phoenix, and definitely have a good shot at winning game 7 (unless the officials/big wigs really want LA/Boston and basically take the Suns out of the game). Though it seems everyone wants LA vs. Boston, I think the Suns vs. Boston would be a more interesting matchup - I mean, we have a finals history with Boston too! What about a modern version of 'The Greatest Game' ever played?

Too bad they didn't play with that intensity until they were down by 18 again...Not to jump on the anti-Amar'e band wagon, but why couldn't we get the same intensity out of Stodumire that we got in game 3 or 4? How does a guy with his size only get a handful of rebounds when he spends most of the game under the basket? I guess that's why the Lakers beat us. Oh well, my feeling is this: the Suns may have lost to the Lakers, but the real losers are any one who lives in Los Angeles...what a crappy place.

About sitting in the front row, Logan, I was a front-rower too - it seemed all the 'gunner' pre-meds were in front. It's funny you fall asleep in front, b/c I would sit there just so I wouldn't fall asleep (although sometimes I would come close). Whenever I was in the back, I had an 86.4% chance of falling asleep! :laugh: What was it like for you guys?

Well, I sat in front so I wouldn't fall asleep, but I still would. If I was in the back, then I was definitely asleep. The weird thing is that it didn't matter how interested I was in the material; I would just start falling asleep. I don't drink coffee though, so maybe I should start drinking diet soda in the morning before class...

I'm guessing everyone is off celebrating Memorial Day, no? Well, I'm thinking and HOPING paiger and I have some major news for tomorrow :D I'd been forgetting that today was Memorial Day. I'm guessing we move another 3 spots from Friday's 59 :xf::xf::xf:

WHY? WHY are the Suns again denied what they deserve much more than the Lakers? Anyone know what's happening to the roster over the summer?

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you tomorrow, if you keep your fingers crossed for me. My wife and I are waiting for the purchase of a house down in Tucson to go through, so I've been right there waiting with you.

The Suns may have been denied this year, but I think they have some important pieces in place for next year and years to come. Most notably to me over years past is that Alvin Gentry knows how to coach his guys up, especially the bench players. As for the off-season, I don't know what the Suns are going to do. If I could have it my way, they'd do a sign and trade with Amar'e for Lebron. ****, I hope I don't get fined now for saying I want to see Lebron come to Phoenix...I think its ridiculous that the league is fining owners for saying what is blatantly obvious: EVERYONE WANTS LEBRON! If LBJ want's to go to a franchise ready to compete for a championship year in and year out AND be able to face Kobe four times during the regular season and in the playoffs, then Phoenix is the place to be. A true competitor wants to take on the best as often as possible, and he won't get that in the East. Plus, he could come to Phoenix and be a legend here, instead of going to Chicago and being compared to Jordan year in and year out. Seriously, where else is he going to go, New Jersey? That team is not ready to win for another few years (at least), so he'll have the same problem he had in Cleveland. Needless to say, I'm biased, but clearly Phoenix is the only logical place for Lebron...:rolleyes:
 
Welp tomorrow I drop a grand on my reapplication...

Maybe some irony will get me when I get pulled off the WL right when i click send. It would just be my luck :luck:
 
Welp tomorrow I drop a grand on my reapplication...

Maybe some irony will get me when I get pulled off the WL right when i click send. It would just be my luck :luck:

A grand on just the primary application? How many schools is that?
 
I thought I'd post this for anyone reapplying - not to brag but help you with what you focus on in your essays and with your time. A letter I got, and assume everyone accepted gets, from Phoenix pointed out what they liked from my application: (1) "outstanding academic work" - this one's a given, and my grades weren't cum laude material, but decent. (2) [The adcoms was also] "impressed by [my] dedication and clinical exposure at [the hospital I volunteered at] and [a local non-profit organization that I did community vision screenings for]". (3) "research involvement [with a field study I did in southern Mexico and in the lab for an evolutionary biologist professor] has prepared you well for life-long interest and understanding of scholarly work".

Though it may not be a revelation, and it obviously makes sense, I hope it helps anyone applying or reapplying. It may be reading into it too much, but my guess is that Phoenix may look for these three things in order of priority - and all are important: good grades, clinical exposure (both essential for a good med student and doctor), and research involvement (especially with the scholarly project and all).

Hope that helps! And I hope all us SDNers will have worried about reapplying for naught! :D:D
 
Subject: University of Arizona College of Medicine Tucson Campus Acceptance

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Dear Mr. Reed,

It is a distinct pleasure to inform you of your selection for admission to The
University of Arizona College of Medicine Tucson Campus entering class of 2010.

Haha! I'm IN!!! Did you hear paiger? Good luck everyone! Like I said, I'll continue to update the plot until August. :soexcited::highfive::clap::bow::horns::D:):cool:
 
Subject: University of Arizona College of Medicine Tucson Campus Acceptance

[email protected] to me
show details 8:33 AM (14 minutes ago)

Dear Mr. Reed,

It is a distinct pleasure to inform you of your selection for admission to The
University of Arizona College of Medicine Tucson Campus entering class of 2010.

Haha! I'm IN!!! Did you hear paiger? Good luck everyone! Like I said, I'll continue to update the plot until August. :soexcited::highfive::clap::bow::horns::D:):cool:

Wha-hoo!!!!! Congrats! Now the wait is over for you! Time to start stressing about getting ready for med school, instead of stressing about getting IN to med school.
 
Hello all, Long time lurker first time poster. I never thought that the waitlist would get this far so I kinda stayed out of here to minimize disappointment. I am #63 at Tucson and I am on the Phoenix waitlist. I am getting super excited (read: stressed) about movement/lack of movement lately so I figured I would post. Got excited when madein got his letter but no email for me so I called in and was told that we were at #59...weird... Guess its back to refreshing email every 5 mins...
 
Subject: University of Arizona College of Medicine Tucson Campus Acceptance

[email protected] to me
show details 8:33 AM (14 minutes ago)

Dear Mr. Reed,

It is a distinct pleasure to inform you of your selection for admission to The
University of Arizona College of Medicine Tucson Campus entering class of 2010.

Haha! I'm IN!!! Did you hear paiger? Good luck everyone! Like I said, I'll continue to update the plot until August. :soexcited::highfive::clap::bow::horns::D:):cool:

Congrats man. So are you going to Tucson, or Phoenix?
 
Congrats Madein!!!! I hope to see you in Tucson!

This news should help cancel out any sadness inflicted by the suns!
 
Congrats Madein!!!! I hope to see you in Tucson!

This news should help cancel out any sadness inflicted by the suns!

don't even talk about that. i hate kobe bryant so much. lol
 
A grand on just the primary application? How many schools is that?

25... seems a little extreme, but being from a state that has no state school... I'm really at a disadvantage. Last year I applied to all the "wiche" schools in hopes of getting cheaper tuition, but that was a huge mistake cause all these schools are state schools that only let in like 5% OOS.... So looking back on it I was very lucky to even get the 5 interviews I got.

Therefore I applied to every private school that is within my range (3.82/29R). I apply this time with two degrees by the end of the year and a lot more clinical experience (CNA and job shadow).

Other than my crappy MCAT i feel my application is scary good compared to last years.:cool:
 
ShameFame, it sounds like you've got a winning application - I hope that turns out to be the case. :D

Welcome jlamee! Glad you decided to join us! Are you IS? Set on UA? Whether you're accepted by then or not, would you like to call in on Wednesday or Thursday for an updated number? Thanks!

Because we haven't heard from paiger yet, I'm assuming we just made it to 61 today - we're still trending near the 2009 post-May 15th trendline, so not bad. I'm thinking that movement is going to slow way down after this Monday. Who knows what will happen, but in 2008 and 2009 the WL moved 8 more spots after June 5th. My best guess is that we'll end up between 65 and 70 on matriculation day - I hope I'm underestimating for all WLers' sake!

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ShameFame, your MCAT isn't that bad - I'm not saying don't retake it, I'm not saying retake it either. Mine was a 31O - decent but not great. Just thought I'd let you know. What state are you from?

I need a huge favor from anyone still reading this thread! :D Could everyone share their biggest pros and cons for Tucson and Phoenix, and let us know what the deciding factor(s) was(were) for you? I'm making my own list, and will share it later this week. If you only applied to one campus, tell us why. Thanks!!

GO Waitlist! I predict 65-70 for a final count, but hopefully I'm way off! :)
 
ShameFame, your MCAT isn't that bad - I'm not saying don't retake it, I'm not saying retake it either. Mine was a 31O - decent but not great. Just thought I'd let you know. What state are you from?

I need a huge favor from anyone still reading this thread! :D Could everyone share their biggest pros and cons for Tucson and Phoenix, and let us know what the deciding factor(s) was(were) for you? I'm making my own list, and will share it later this week. If you only applied to one campus, tell us why. Thanks!!

GO Waitlist! I predict 65-70 for a final count, but hopefully I'm way off! :)

Yeah no retaking the MCAT at this point. I submitted my application early and it was processed this morning! Ha! 2 days compared to the 5 weeks it took last year! Oh and I'm from Montana. :(

Tuscon:
Pro: awesome campus, big hospital right on it.
Con: Walk 2 blocks and be in the Ghetto... not the prettiest place besides the campus

Phx:
Pro: Middle of a big ol city! very pretty place. Smaller class, so perhaps that's to your advantage of being treated like an individual. I felt the people at phx-campus were friendlier also.
Cons: Not on a campus, the school is two small buildings. Doesn't give the true academic feel to me. Also the school hasn't been around very long. Who knows what that means for residency placements.
 
Subject: University of Arizona College of Medicine Tucson Campus Acceptance

[email protected] to me
show details 8:33 AM (14 minutes ago)

Dear Mr. Reed,

It is a distinct pleasure to inform you of your selection for admission to The
University of Arizona College of Medicine Tucson Campus entering class of 2010.

Haha! I'm IN!!! Did you hear paiger? Good luck everyone! Like I said, I'll continue to update the plot until August. :soexcited::highfive::clap::bow::horns::D:):cool:

CONGRATS MIR! That is really awesome. I'm guessing you prefer Tucson over PHX? Or are you still in limbo? Still hoping it gets high enough, I'm at #87 for Tucson and wait listed at PHX.
 
ShameFame, your MCAT isn't that bad - I'm not saying don't retake it, I'm not saying retake it either. Mine was a 31O - decent but not great. Just thought I'd let you know. What state are you from?

I need a huge favor from anyone still reading this thread! :D Could everyone share their biggest pros and cons for Tucson and Phoenix, and let us know what the deciding factor(s) was(were) for you? I'm making my own list, and will share it later this week. If you only applied to one campus, tell us why. Thanks!!

GO Waitlist! I predict 65-70 for a final count, but hopefully I'm way off! :)


I agree with ShameFame about the pros and cons for both locations, except that I went to UA and the ghetto-ness isn't so bad once you are settled. You just need to know what places to avoid and what times to avoid them. The best thing about Tucson is the culture, the food, and the hiking + mt. lemon. I love that there are so many recreational options so close to the city. But I guess that is a huge personal preference.

I know I posted twice, just discovered the multi-quote button :rolleyes:
 
huge favor[/B] from anyone still reading this thread! :D Could everyone share their biggest pros and cons for Tucson and Phoenix, and let us know what the deciding factor(s) was(were) for you? I'm making my own list, and will share it later this week. If you only applied to one campus, tell us why. Thanks!!

Keep in mind these are pros and cons for me, personally. Yours may be different. This is just a quick off the top of my head:

Tucson Pros: Hospital attached to medical school (convenience), established program (if not curriculum), strong research opportunities that come with having a medical school, comfortable with dealing with the needs of the medical student, resources that come with being "the mothership"
Tucson Cons: Hospital attached to medical school (don't get the diversity of institutions like PCH, Mayo, Barrow, etc.), established program (probably not as receptive to individual desires, goals of medical students), large class size (which I think translates into slightly less individualized attention than Phoenix), I personally hate the geography/environ of Tucson and the BIGGEST ONE: Lrkhoele's going there ;)

Phoenix Pros: New program (more flexible to dealing with the desires, comments, criticisms of students), small class size (individualized attention, really get to know your other classmates), new anatomy lab with Dr. Fisher's nationally ranked program, longitudinal clinic experience (I believe Tucson has similar CBL, team based exercises but not the 1-on-1 clinical mentoring that spans 2 years), capstones (don't think Tucson has them, otherwise they would start early like we do), wide range of clinical affiliates (Mayo, PCH, Barrow, etc.), resources of ASU research wise (see cons), I like downtown Phoenix a million times more than any part of Tucson, and the BIGGEST ONE: I'm going there ;)
Phoenix Cons
New program (problems that arise getting established still probably exist, however I suspect the majority, after three/four years have been ironed out and they are particularly receptive to resolving those still present), amazing things like clinical affiliates, LCE, and labs, however amazing, are not on campus, and travel time is required. The official split has taken many of the resources that ASU has offered but I do have it on very good knowledge that prior existing research opportunities and the like will still be made available for students.
 
ShameFame, your MCAT isn't that bad - I'm not saying don't retake it, I'm not saying retake it either. Mine was a 31O - decent but not great. Just thought I'd let you know. What state are you from?

I need a huge favor from anyone still reading this thread! :D Could everyone share their biggest pros and cons for Tucson and Phoenix, and let us know what the deciding factor(s) was(were) for you? I'm making my own list, and will share it later this week. If you only applied to one campus, tell us why. Thanks!!

GO Waitlist! I predict 65-70 for a final count, but hopefully I'm way off! :)

MIR, I typed up a whole thing about Phoenix and what I think of it, being a current student there. If you'd like, I can PM it to you. :)
 
Keep in mind these are pros and cons for me, personally. Yours may be different. This is just a quick off the top of my head:

Tucson Pros: Hospital attached to medical school (convenience), established program (if not curriculum), strong research opportunities that come with having a medical school, comfortable with dealing with the needs of the medical student, resources that come with being "the mothership"
Tucson Cons: Hospital attached to medical school (don't get the diversity of institutions like PCH, Mayo, Barrow, etc.), established program (probably not as receptive to individual desires, goals of medical students), large class size (which I think translates into slightly less individualized attention than Phoenix), I personally hate the geography/environ of Tucson and the BIGGEST ONE: Lrkhoele's going there ;)

Phoenix Pros: New program (more flexible to dealing with the desires, comments, criticisms of students), small class size (individualized attention, really get to know your other classmates), new anatomy lab with Dr. Fisher's nationally ranked program, longitudinal clinic experience (I believe Tucson has similar CBL, team based exercises but not the 1-on-1 clinical mentoring that spans 2 years), capstones (don't think Tucson has them, otherwise they would start early like we do), wide range of clinical affiliates (Mayo, PCH, Barrow, etc.), resources of ASU research wise (see cons), I like downtown Phoenix a million times more than any part of Tucson, and the BIGGEST ONE: I'm going there ;)
Phoenix Cons
New program (problems that arise getting established still probably exist, however I suspect the majority, after three/four years have been ironed out and they are particularly receptive to resolving those still present), amazing things like clinical affiliates, LCE, and labs, however amazing, are not on campus, and travel time is required. The official split has taken many of the resources that ASU has offered but I do have it on very good knowledge that prior existing research opportunities and the like will still be made available for students.

And yeah, we got Shep... 'nuff said. :thumbup:
 
Yeah no retaking the MCAT at this point. I submitted my application early and it was processed this morning! Ha! 2 days compared to the 5 weeks it took last year! Oh and I'm from Montana. :(

Tuscon:
Pro: awesome campus, big hospital right on it.
Con: Walk 2 blocks and be in the Ghetto... not the prettiest place besides the campus

Phx:
Pro: Middle of a big ol city! very pretty place. Smaller class, so perhaps that's to your advantage of being treated like an individual. I felt the people at phx-campus were friendlier also.
Cons: Not on a campus, the school is two small buildings. Doesn't give the true academic feel to me. Also the school hasn't been around very long. Who knows what that means for residency placements.

i disagree with your Tucson con completely. you meant to put the "two blocks in the ghetto" in the phx section. the ghetto in tucson is south of 22nd st (where i used to live).
 
Welcome jlamee! Glad you decided to join us! Are you IS? Set on UA? Whether you're accepted by then or not, would you like to call in on Wednesday or Thursday for an updated number? Thanks!

Thanks for the welcome. I am IS and I am set on UofA. I will definitely call whatever day or both if you want me to keep checking. I will update after I call and I will try and post my pro/cons. Mine all kinda relate to me personally but maybe they will give you something to think about. Also quick question, would it be insane to reapply if I am only 2 waitlist spots away? On one side I'd say yes but for some reason luck really hates me and I sinking feeling that we will only hit 62 (I'm 63). Just wondering, I will call today and let me know when you would like me to call in the future.
 
I called admissions a bit ago to ask them about sending transcripts, but I also asked them about the waitlist. Still accepted through 61.
 
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