2009-2010 University of Arizona Application Thread

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Hey MadeIn, were you still planning on posting today about which campus you decided on? I have been anxious to hear your decision! Of course it would be awesome to meet you if you came to Tucson, but either campus is a great choice!

Wow! I sure have missed a lot on here lately! Glad to see Shep, Jturk, and lrk have been holding down the fort. All of us will be spending a ton of time together as future classmates and I personally am quite happy that we have become friends over sdn and in real life! I agree with Brooother that we should try to remember that we are all med-cats together, even if we are separated by a couple hundred miles :) Also, I would like to point out that having taken Dr. Fisher's anatomy class I can definitely say it was fanatastic course and she is an absolutely phenomenal teacher! Although, I have thought of pros and cons for each campus, many of them have been touched on already. I think the most important thing is that UA trains great docs and that hopefully many of them and others will decide to practice in AZ!

I'm also really excited to begin the year and meet each of you in person! The best part about SDN will be that - meeting online friends for real :D

So I'm up earlier than everyone in a hotel in Tucson, and decided I'd take the chance to post my Tucson/Phoenix Pros. It was a super hard decision, but after talking with people, reading online, reading your posts (thanks, btw), I realized that Tucson was the place for me. My decision came down to mostly personal reasons (you'll see that below). As has been mentioned, each campus has some amazing things to offer - much of which is identical. :cool: I'm also glad to have created another vacant spot somewhere :D

Tucson:
Pros:
- Smaller city – I'm from a small town, and like a smaller feel. I also did undergrad in a smaller city, where the university is an important part of the town, sort of drawing the whole community together.

- Slightly cooler – My hometown is pretty cool compared to either Phoenix or Tucson, but Tucson's a little cooler than Phoenix, especially at night.

- UMC connected to COM – I realize this doesn't offer for much diversity in clinical experience, but it means I don't have to lose more of my time driving around.

- Tons of resources nearby – The College of Public Health is right there, along with the College of Nursing, College of Pharmacy; there are also plenty of places to do scientific research (not that Phoenix doesn't have these, but again one has to drive to ASU or somewhere else to get most of this)

- Cool relatives in town – Though these relatives are on my wife's side, they're pretty sweet. I actually click with them better than my own peeps – partly because they're supposed to be my aunt and uncle, but are only 4 years older than my wife and me.

- Close to large mountains (Catalinas) – I love mountains and the outdoors. My hometown is just minutes from ponderosa pine, and an hour from much of the White Mountains. I did my undergrad in the shadow of some pretty sweet mountains. I guess I'm addicted to them – mountaholic?

- Good, established program – Not that Phoenix's program isn't good, or isn't mostly established, but this one has been around for decades (could be good or bad).

- Further from most of my family – This is obviously a con in many ways, but also a pro. We're a couple hours from most of our extended family, and 4 from our parents. I'd prefer to switch that around, but that's where I like it – we can make it to the important things like birthdays, etc, but our lives aren't getting run by family, and everyone gets excited when we/they visit :D

- Near my heritage – I have a couple of lines of ancestors from Pomerene, St. David, Tombstone, and who knows where else in southeastern Arizona. I was never told much about them growing up, so it's been fun learning about these places, and I want to learn more.

- Societies – This has pluses and minuses vs. Phoenix's LCE. What I like about it is the opportunity to work with and get to know a small group of students and a teaching physician.

Phoenix:
Pros:
- Awesome curriculum (capstone, intersessions courses, scholarly project, etc) – I can't say how much I like what I read and hear about these courses and the scholarly project. I think all of it is awesome!

- Nice hospitals in area – Phoenix has some great hospitals available to students, some at which I would love to do rotations at, or even residency.
- Nice places to live – Though it's not always true, I think one should be able to find nicer places to live here than in Tucson.

- Small class size – This might help offset the feeling of being in a sprawling metropolis with millions of people. My graduating class in high school was 135 strong and I didn't know everyone – I'd probably know and love all 47 of my med school classmates.

- Flexibility – The program is still taking shape, and allows for some personalization on the students' part.

- Really nice admissions/staff people – The admissions people at Phoenix do an excellent job of selling the program, and making applicants/students feel at home.

- Closer to most of my family – In many ways it would be nice to be close to all the extended family.
- Close to local and state government – I've taken an interest in public health policy, and would like to see if it's something I want to include in my career. Being close to governments would provide an awesome opportunity.

- LCE – This would be an awesome way to learn the art of being a physician. I like the one-on-one nature of it.

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What Logan means by it being awkward is that my animal magnetism draws in more prospects than I need. When I go out clubbing with him it's always rough for him to turn down the excess eager ladies drawn in like moths to my flame, what with him being married and all. And P.S. Logan, it's called confidence, not agressiveness.

There are a number of problems with what you said in your post. First, we weren't "clubbing," we were at Olive Garden, so your raver dancing was weird enough. Second, the "ladies" I was "turning down" was actually our male server who had long hair and didn't seem to appreciate your advances. Plus, the only thing I turned down was desert. As for that "confidence," well, I think that elderly lady called it aggressiveness...especially as you tried to make out with her. Seriously, if you're going to make out with a senior citizen at least let them take out their dentures.
 
There are a number of problems with what you said in your post. First, we weren't "clubbing," we were at Olive Garden, so your raver dancing was weird enough. Second, the "ladies" I was "turning down" was actually our male server who had long hair and didn't seem to appreciate your advances. Plus, the only thing I turned down was desert. As for that "confidence," well, I think that elderly lady called it aggressiveness...especially as you tried to make out with her. Seriously, if you're going to make out with a senior citizen at least let them take out their dentures.

:thumbup: Can't top that. Round 49583 goes to Logan.
 
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Tucson:

Waitlist Position-
14) SmokeyGray - IS; ACCEPTED 03/22/10. 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS; ACCEPTED 03/30/10. 3 other acceptances, waiting on 5
17) tmm808 - IS; ACCEPTED 04/13/10. 3 other acceptances
20) SurfdudeJD - IS; ACCEPTED 04/21/10 waiting on 3 others
34) Indiana06 - OOS; ACCEPTED 05/10/10 Accepted @ Phx
39) Nasappah - OOS; ACCEPTED 05/13/10 2 other acceptances, couple waitlists
40) HappyT - IS; ACCEPTED 05/13/10 0 other waitlists; 0 other acceptances
42) ACE28 - IS; ACCEPTED 05/14/10
46) ehandber - IS; ACCEPTED 05/14/10 0 other acceptances/applications.
49) MedHopeful777 - IS, ACCEPTED 05/17/10 0 other waitlists, 0 other acceptances
54) kj92086 - ACCEPTED 05/17/10
61) MadeInReydn - IS; ACCEPTED 06/01/10 1 other acceptance (Set on UA, not sure which campus)
62) paiger - IS; ACCEPTED 06/02/10 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
63) jlamee ACCEPTED 06/02/10
66) jcslater
79) brophy - IS; Accepted at Phoenix
81) Happyglucky - IS; 2 other acceptances, waiting on 1
82) 7franks
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS; 0 other acceptances
93) countryboydoc - IS; Accepted @ Phx, 2 other acceptances, 3 waitlists, waiting on 3 more
121) sunny1 - IS
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)

Phoenix:

Waitlist date-
IS:
03/04
happyglucky - IS--ACCEPTED 03/24/10
Who Dat Nation - IS ACCEPTED 04/06/10
Brahms2010 - IS ACCEPTED 05/07/10
MadeInReydn - IS ACCEPTED 05/18/10
brophy - IS ACCEPTED 06/04/2010
2 LEGIT 2 QUIT - IS
7franks - IS
bminz - IS
chagramama- IS
Ehandber - IS
jlamee- IS
Opt79- IS
SUNS 10- IS

03/12
aztri- IS ACCEPTED 05/18/10
paiger- IS

OOS:
03/05
nyyfan65 - OOS; ACCEPTED 04/16/10
DancinSarah - OOS
JMJ777 - OOS; 1 acceptance, 1 other waitlist
Meducated - OOS
Nasappah - OOS
Phosphorus Ylide - OOS; 1 other acceptance (Will decline and accept Phoenix, if taken off the WL)
ShameFame - OOS

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TUCSON

Entering Fall 2007:

Around 4/28: 10
Around 5/15: 38
By matriculation day: 53-54

Entering Fall 2008:

3/24 (12 days): 3
3/25 (13 days): 5
4/04 (3 ½ weeks): 12
4/07 (4 weeks): 13
4/10 Tucson and PHX 2nd Look
4/22 (6 weeks): 18
4/28 (6 ½ weeks): 20
5/01 (7 weeks): 25
5/08 (8 weeks): 32
5/12 (8 ½ weeks): 33
5/15 (9 weeks): 39
5/19 (9 ½ weeks): 42
5/23 (10 ½ weeks): 48
5/27 (11 weeks): 49
6/03 (12 weeks): 52
6/05 (12 weeks): 57
6/11 (13 weeks): 59
7/28 (19 ½ weeks): 63
Matriculation day: 65

Entering Fall 2009:

3/18 (7 days): 6
3/25 (2 weeks): 10
3/30 (2 ½ weeks): 11
4/01 (3 weeks): 13
4/08 (4 weeks): 15
4/09-11: Tucson and PHX 2nd Look
4/15 (5 weeks): 17
4/27 (6 ½ weeks): 19
5/04 (7 ½ weeks): 23
5/11 (8 ½ weeks): 25
5/15 (9 weeks): 32
5/18 (9 ½ weeks): 37
5/21 (10 weeks): 40
5/29 (11 weeks): 44
6/05 (12 ½ weeks): 47
7/08 (17 weeks): 49
7/28 (19 ½ weeks): 51
Matriculation day: 55

Entering Fall 2010:

3/15 (3 days): 13
3/22 (10 days): 14
3/30 (2 ½ weeks): 16
4/08-10: PHX 2nd Look
4/13 (4 weeks): 17
4/21 (5 ½ weeks): 20
4/23: Tucson 2nd Look
4/23 (6 weeks): 22
4/25 (6 weeks): 23
5/05 (7 ½ weeks): 28
5/07 (8 weeks): 29
5/10 (8 ½ weeks): 34
5/12 (8 ½ weeks): 38
5/13 (9 weeks): 41
5/14 (9 weeks): 47
5/17 (9 ½ weeks): 54
5/19 (10 weeks): 55
5/24 (10 ½ weeks): 58
6/01 (11 ½ weeks): 61
6/02 (11 ½ weeks): 63
6/08 (~12 weeks): 65
 
Getting so close jcslater!!! Let us know when you get your email!
 
Nice! Hopefully some time this week jcslater!

Sorry I didn't call in. Turns out I was pretty busy running around Tucson looking for apartments. I noticed the Bodies Exhibit is in town - pretty sweet stuff :cool:

Movement will probably slow way down by the end of this week or some time next week - hopefully that's an erroneous prediction :D Here's an updated plot (I would have never guessed that movement would follow that middle-3rd trendline so well):

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Nice! Hopefully some time this week jcslater!

Sorry I didn't call in. Turns out I was pretty busy running around Tucson looking for apartments. I noticed the Bodies Exhibit is in town - pretty sweet stuff :cool:

Movement will probably slow way down by the end of this week or some time next week - hopefully that's an erroneous prediction :D Here's an updated plot (I would have never guessed that movement would follow that middle-3rd trendline so well):

I want to go sooo bad! I went to Bodyworlds in Phoenix at the Science Center a few years ago and it was awesome!
 
Congrats to everyone! I'm glad we all get to meet down in Tucson!

And, hello from the airport in Charlotte, NC. Stop #3 on my trip, VA, is today! Ill get home just in time for orientation, so I will see you all there!

-Erik
 
Did anyone else on the waitlist receive the "Second look email". I think they mistakenly sent it to me if no one else got it, unless everyone on the WL got it. I got all excited when it said "Dear class of 2014" lol then realized I was not a part of this class.
 
I did not get the second look email, so maybe (1) they sent it to you by accident, or (2) maybe you are about to be accepted (which would totally rock!). I hate when things like that happen, because you're never sure whether to get your hopes up or not.

BTW, whatever happened to Paiger? No posts since the acceptance, unless I'm missing something...wasn't Paiger posting quite a bit before, or am I mistaken?
 
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YES!! CONGRATS!

I was secretly rooting for you x1,000,000. :)

Thanks! I immediately accepted my offer and emailed RFU to decline my spot there. I was starting to lose my optimism for this campus, but have always known that if the day came, I would choose UofA-PHX in a heartbeat. Can't wait to see you there next year! I might be PMing you for some advice here and there. Hope you dont mind.
 
Thanks! I immediately accepted my offer and emailed RFU to decline my spot there. I was starting to lose my optimism for this campus, but have always known that if the day came, I would choose UofA-PHX in a heartbeat. Can't wait to see you there next year! I might be PMing you for some advice here and there. Hope you dont mind.

Of course. Glad to help.

And, holy fook. The previous page of this thread made me feel sad, and dumb, and angry. Why did I read that?

Let's all of us SDN losers who hate the sunshine get together and prove to the world that what we lack in summer tans we make up for in social skills!
 
Hooray! You're OOS too, right? Welcome to the class!

Thanks! I immediately accepted my offer and emailed RFU to decline my spot there. I was starting to lose my optimism for this campus, but have always known that if the day came, I would choose UofA-PHX in a heartbeat. Can't wait to see you there next year! I might be PMing you for some advice here and there. Hope you dont mind.
 
Oh no, I just saw that the fingerprinting processing takes 5-8 weeks, but we are required to have it during orientation week. What do I do?!?!:confused:

You'll be fine. :) You just got accepted! Just do it ASAP and they'll understand if it's late.
 
I'm not sure if you guys have seen this yet, but I figured I'd post it for those who haven't: http://medicine.arizona.edu/admissions/tucson/season-results

From what I've been told, and this may just be hearsay, but the accepted numbers from schools can be deceiving. For example, in the MSAR the range of MCAT scores, Overall GPA and Science GPA numbers "accepted" are skewed because schools hand out acceptances to great students who may end up declining that acceptance. Nevertheless the schools can still post these "accepted" students' scores to bolster numbers.

That being said, I wonder whether or not those numbers accurately reflect the actual incoming class demographics.
 
From what I've been told, and this may just be hearsay, but the accepted numbers from schools can be deceiving. For example, in the MSAR the range of MCAT scores, Overall GPA and Science GPA numbers "accepted" are skewed because schools hand out acceptances to great students who may end up declining that acceptance. Nevertheless the schools can still post these "accepted" students' scores to bolster numbers.

That being said, I wonder whether or not those numbers accurately reflect the actual incoming class demographics.

I agree about those numbers being skewed, especially the accepted numbers. As that link I provided shows things, they only accepted enough students to fill the class, but we know that is not true. It shows 88 IS and 27 OOS, which totals 115 (the size of the class), but that doesn't include the 60+ waitlist acceptees. Plus, I thought the WL was a mix of IS and OOS, so wouldn't the numbers be skewed from that 25% OOS number? I don't think I really trust those numbers they posted...maybe by the time school starts they'll update them with the real numbers, which should show like 150 IS acceptances.
 
Tucson:

Waitlist Position-
14) SmokeyGray - IS; ACCEPTED 03/22/10. 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS; ACCEPTED 03/30/10. 3 other acceptances, waiting on 5
17) tmm808 - IS; ACCEPTED 04/13/10. 3 other acceptances
20) SurfdudeJD - IS; ACCEPTED 04/21/10 waiting on 3 others
34) Indiana06 - OOS; ACCEPTED 05/10/10 Accepted @ Phx
39) Nasappah - OOS; ACCEPTED 05/13/10 2 other acceptances, couple waitlists
40) HappyT - IS; ACCEPTED 05/13/10 0 other waitlists; 0 other acceptances
42) ACE28 - IS; ACCEPTED 05/14/10
46) ehandber - IS; ACCEPTED 05/14/10 0 other acceptances/applications.
49) MedHopeful777 - IS, ACCEPTED 05/17/10 0 other waitlists, 0 other acceptances
54) kj92086 - ACCEPTED 05/17/10
61) MadeInReydn - IS; ACCEPTED 06/01/10 1 other acceptance (Set on UA, not sure which campus)
62) paiger - IS; ACCEPTED 06/02/10 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
63) jlamee ACCEPTED 06/02/10
66) jcslater ACCEPTED 06/14/10
79) brophy - IS; Accepted at Phoenix
81) Happyglucky - IS; 2 other acceptances, waiting on 1
82) 7franks
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS; 0 other acceptances
93) countryboydoc - IS; Accepted @ Phx, 2 other acceptances, 3 waitlists, waiting on 3 more
121) sunny1 - IS
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)

Phoenix:

Waitlist date-
IS:
03/04
happyglucky - IS--ACCEPTED 03/24/10
Who Dat Nation - IS ACCEPTED 04/06/10
Brahms2010 - IS ACCEPTED 05/07/10
MadeInReydn - IS ACCEPTED 05/18/10
brophy - IS ACCEPTED 06/04/2010
2 LEGIT 2 QUIT - IS
7franks - IS
bminz - IS
chagramama- IS
Ehandber - IS
jlamee- IS
Opt79- IS
SUNS 10- IS

03/12
aztri- IS ACCEPTED 05/18/10
paiger- IS

OOS:
03/05
nyyfan65 - OOS; ACCEPTED 04/16/10
DancinSarah - OOS
JMJ777 - OOS; 1 acceptance, 1 other waitlist
Meducated - OOS
Nasappah - OOS
Phosphorus Ylide - OOS; 1 other acceptance (Will decline and accept Phoenix, if taken off the WL)
ShameFame - OOS

__________________________________________________ _______
TUCSON

Entering Fall 2007:

Around 4/28: 10
Around 5/15: 38
By matriculation day: 53-54

Entering Fall 2008:

3/24 (12 days): 3
3/25 (13 days): 5
4/04 (3 ½ weeks): 12
4/07 (4 weeks): 13
4/10 Tucson and PHX 2nd Look
4/22 (6 weeks): 18
4/28 (6 ½ weeks): 20
5/01 (7 weeks): 25
5/08 (8 weeks): 32
5/12 (8 ½ weeks): 33
5/15 (9 weeks): 39
5/19 (9 ½ weeks): 42
5/23 (10 ½ weeks): 48
5/27 (11 weeks): 49
6/03 (12 weeks): 52
6/05 (12 weeks): 57
6/11 (13 weeks): 59
7/28 (19 ½ weeks): 63
Matriculation day: 65

Entering Fall 2009:

3/18 (7 days): 6
3/25 (2 weeks): 10
3/30 (2 ½ weeks): 11
4/01 (3 weeks): 13
4/08 (4 weeks): 15
4/09-11: Tucson and PHX 2nd Look
4/15 (5 weeks): 17
4/27 (6 ½ weeks): 19
5/04 (7 ½ weeks): 23
5/11 (8 ½ weeks): 25
5/15 (9 weeks): 32
5/18 (9 ½ weeks): 37
5/21 (10 weeks): 40
5/29 (11 weeks): 44
6/05 (12 ½ weeks): 47
7/08 (17 weeks): 49
7/28 (19 ½ weeks): 51
Matriculation day: 55

Entering Fall 2010:

3/15 (3 days): 13
3/22 (10 days): 14
3/30 (2 ½ weeks): 16
4/08-10: PHX 2nd Look
4/13 (4 weeks): 17
4/21 (5 ½ weeks): 20
4/23: Tucson 2nd Look
4/23 (6 weeks): 22
4/25 (6 weeks): 23
5/05 (7 ½ weeks): 28
5/07 (8 weeks): 29
5/10 (8 ½ weeks): 34
5/12 (8 ½ weeks): 38
5/13 (9 weeks): 41
5/14 (9 weeks): 47
5/17 (9 ½ weeks): 54
5/19 (10 weeks): 55
5/24 (10 ½ weeks): 58
6/01 (11 ½ weeks): 61
6/02 (11 ½ weeks): 63
6/08 (~12 weeks): 65
6/14 (13 weeks): 66
 
Tucson:

Waitlist Position-



62) paiger - IS; ACCEPTED 06/02/10 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
63) jlamee ACCEPTED 06/02/10
66) jcslater ACCEPTED 06/14/10

Now that truly wins the award for the most low key acceptance announcement ever...congrats!!
 
Now that truly wins the award for the most low key acceptance announcement ever...congrats!!

As much as I hate being out done, I have to agree. Congrats jcslater, see you in August?
 
Now that truly wins the award for the most low key acceptance announcement ever...congrats!!

Honestly I don't like this forum very much because it promotes such an obsessive frame of mind that makes people go insane and makes them lose sight of what the dream of going to medical school really is about. Granted this is just my opinion, but I have to admit that the graphs and lists of WL numbers/acceptances gave me a fairly clear idea of whether I had a chance in hell of being accepted. And for that I am grateful to you crazy lunatics who spent so much time annoying Ann/Tanisha and projecting maxed out WL matriculation numbers so that I didn't have to.

That being said, since I saw such a big gap between the 60's and 80's I figured I could add to the data and give something back to the "SDN Community". And I will be seeing all of you WL acceptances in August or during orientation. Goodluck and Congratulations to everyone!
 
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Honestly I don't like this forum very much because it promotes such an obsessive frame of mind that makes people go insane and makes them lose sight of what the dream of going to medical school really is about.

Amen, love the sentiment, and a very mature take on it...personally, while I like the forum for being able to share our experiences in the application progress, some people seem to go a little overboard with the amount of emotional energy they expend in this process. The acceptance is the easiest part of the next 4 years (not even counting internship and residency), and I can't imagine that to be so strung out over every release date and the hourly waitlist movement can indicate good things for when a person is faced with real stress (USMLE, barrage of tests, rotations, match, etc.). Instead, remaining calm and committed to the direction one is heading in strikes me as way to maintain better mental health and provide a clearer frame of mind for the complex decision-making and (extreme) multi-tasking that we will be required to undergo over the next few years.
 
Honestly I don't like this forum very much because it promotes such an obsessive frame of mind that makes people go insane and makes them lose sight of what the dream of going to medical school really is about. Granted this is just my opinion, but I have to admit that the graphs and lists of WL numbers/acceptances gave me a fairly clear idea of whether I had a chance in hell of being accepted. And for that I am grateful to you crazy lunatics who spent so much time annoying Ann/Tanisha and projecting maxed out WL matriculation numbers so that I didn't have to.

That being said, since I saw such a big gap between the 60's and 80's I figured I could add to the data and give something back to the "SDN Community". And I will be seeing all of you WL acceptances in August or during orientation. Goodluck and Congratulations to everyone!

:D

Congratulations and Good luck in med school my friend.
 
Honestly I don't like this forum very much because it promotes such an obsessive frame of mind that makes people go insane and makes them lose sight of what the dream of going to medical school really is about. Granted this is just my opinion, but I have to admit that the graphs and lists of WL numbers/acceptances gave me a fairly clear idea of whether I had a chance in hell of being accepted. And for that I am grateful to you crazy lunatics who spent so much time annoying Ann/Tanisha and projecting maxed out WL matriculation numbers so that I didn't have to.

That being said, since I saw such a big gap between the 60's and 80's I figured I could add to the data and give something back to the "SDN Community". And I will be seeing all of you WL acceptances in August or during orientation. Goodluck and Congratulations to everyone!

Congrats! Look forward to meeting you!

I must admit, I was pretty crazy for a month or two after getting the WL email - until I finally lost my anxieties.
 
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I'm glad everyone is getting their acceptances finally, but I did want to say this-


I don't see the point in talking about what medical school is "supposed to be about" or whether or not you like or hate this forum.

I loved this forum for everything it provided me with, including many new friends! And, if you think there is some universal purpose for everyone then I hope you are wrong- because I have no idea what my medical (or otherwise) purpose is! I just want to be a doctor, and this forum certainly helped me keep my chin up during the many times when it felt less than optimistic!

And, with that, congratulations again, and THANKS again to everyone!

(PS- Got back from West Virginia to Virginia last night, and now I'm off to Washington DC tomorrow on my nationwide trip. Then, the day after that, I will be headed down to Birmingham!)
 
Now that truly wins the award for the most low key acceptance announcement ever...congrats!!

Yeah, I agree. I saw it, but I decided to not say anything since it didn't seem as though jcs wanted the attention.

Amen, love the sentiment, and a very mature take on it...personally, while I like the forum for being able to share our experiences in the application progress, some people seem to go a little overboard with the amount of emotional energy they expend in this process. The acceptance is the easiest part of the next 4 years (not even counting internship and residency), and I can't imagine that to be so strung out over every release date and the hourly waitlist movement can indicate good things for when a person is faced with real stress (USMLE, barrage of tests, rotations, match, etc.). Instead, remaining calm and committed to the direction one is heading in strikes me as way to maintain better mental health and provide a clearer frame of mind for the complex decision-making and (extreme) multi-tasking that we will be required to undergo over the next few years.

I kind of disagree, but like Erik I mostly don't care that much. I will say that these forums have a tendency to make many of us seem more obsessive than we really are. For me, this is one place that I can go and express my feelings about this process with people who actually understand it. I love my wife's support, but its just different having other people going through this experience firsthand who can relate. That meant that there were times when I came on here to express stress/frustration/excitement/etc. that I didn't feel like burdening my wife with, and thus I know I looked like a maniac many times this past cycle.

I also have to disagree with the notion that this is the least stressful part of the next four years. Once you've been accepted, you can say with 99% confidence, "I AM going to be a doctor." Why 99%? Because if I recall correctly that's the graduation rate from medical schools, thus while medical school is hard, they will make damn sure you pass. Its similar with Step-I and then again with residency. Are they tough? Sure, but it comes down to you working hard to do well, as opposed to this whole process which is a crap-shoot that only like 42% of people make it through. Contrast that with the most competitive medical specialties where the unmatch rate is at most 15%. That means 85% of people will match into the most competitive specialites (plastics, neuro, etc.).

Still, I definitely agree that taking a calm, levelheaded approach to this process as well as the next four years is the best thing we can do.
 
I don't see the point in talking about what medical school is "supposed to be about" or whether or not you like or hate this forum.

I loved this forum for everything it provided me with, including many new friends! And, if you think there is some universal purpose for everyone then I hope you are wrong- because I have no idea what my medical (or otherwise) purpose is! I just want to be a doctor, and this forum certainly helped me keep my chin up during the many times when it felt less than optimistic!

And, with that, congratulations again, and THANKS again to everyone!
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In my defense, the point of my post was to explain why I just updated the list as opposed to a celebratory post. In no way was I trying to bash your desire to use this forum as a tool to gain friends and encouragement.

Secondly, no I don't think there is a universal purpose for everyone or rather I don't think God has a "plan" for me. Instead, I would like to believe that my 3 years of doing odd end research, teaching and clinical jobs that paid a meager salary humbled me and showed me the way to a meaningful career that I could really believe in. I think it would be a disservice to you and to others WL'ers if you applied so you could just simply "be a doctor". While I don't question your motives, you give off the impression that your decision lacked a little soul searching (pardon my cheesy choice of words).

That being said, I can appreciate what SDN has to offer as far as information, commiseration and just all around camaraderie. But I am wary of the all inclusive cliques that could form because of it. I'm sure you found it more natural to seek out other SDN members or other ASU students at 2nd look than just trying to meet new people in general.

In conclusion, I am more than willing to have a healthy dialogue about these topics but I don't think flaming my opinions is the most constructive way of doing so.
 
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That being said, I can appreciate what SDN has to offer as far as information, commiseration and just all around camaraderie. But I am wary of the all inclusive cliques that could form because of it. I'm sure you found it more natural to seek out other SDN members or other ASU students at 2nd look than just trying to meet new people in general.

Well med school is like any community... some of the people you love now will be a pain in the butt in 4 years, and some of the people who are a pain in the butt now will be your best resource and friend in 4 years. I definitely feel an affinity for this forum, am grateful that it was here, and even though I'm going to Midwestern (barring a last minute acceptance from Phoenix), this is still the forum I enjoy posting in and reading every few days.
 
(C major) All we are (G major) saaaaaaaaaaaying is (C Major) give peace a channnnce

I'm so not going to post my John Coltrane-esque reharmonization that I thought when I originally saw that. I am truly way too much of a musical dork.
 
Oh no, I just saw that the fingerprinting processing takes 5-8 weeks, but we are required to have it during orientation week. What do I do?!?!:confused:

When I got fingerprinted, they told me it would take that long, but it actually only ended up taking about 2 ...
 
Hi All,

Congrats to all who have been accepted. Just wondering if anyone knows how UA looks at multiple MCAT scores / taking the test 3 times.

Thanks,

MMN
 
Hi All,

Congrats to all who have been accepted. Just wondering if anyone knows how UA looks at multiple MCAT scores / taking the test 3 times.

Thanks,

MMN

The impression one faculty member gave me was that the number of times you take the test isn't THAT important as long as you are getting significantly better scores i.e.: 24 to 28-30. I also was not given the max number of times you should have to take the test.

Generally speaking, I think taking the test more than once is not recommended unless you are very certain that you can make drastic gains on your previous score i.e.: at least 2-3 points higher. I know that taking the test 2x is not widely frowned upon, but I am not sure what the take is on 3+ times. If there is a long span between when you took your tests (1 yr+) I'm sure there admissions give some slack.
 
The impression one faculty member gave me was that the number of times you take the test isn't THAT important as long as you are getting significantly better scores i.e.: 24 to 28-30. I also was not given the max number of times you should have to take the test.

Generally speaking, I think taking the test more than once is not recommended unless you are very certain that you can make drastic gains on your previous score i.e.: at least 2-3 points higher. I know that taking the test 2x is not widely frowned upon, but I am not sure what the take is on 3+ times. If there is a long span between when you took your tests (1 yr+) I'm sure there admissions give some slack.

I agree with this, and I think its important to reiterate how important it is to make sure you do better the second time around. Not to put pressure on those looking to retake, but if you do just as bad the second time or if you do worse, that will look really bad. Now if you go in and kill the second time that should provide evidence to the committee that your first score was a fluke. As for taking it 3 or more times, I don't think that will be looked upon positively (unless its because your scores expired). If you couldn't get done the first two times and then your do decently the third time its going to make the good score look like the fluke. Basically, if you have to take it a second time study your butt off, do as many practice tests/passages as possible, and make damn sure you don't have to take it a third time. I don't have statistics to back this all up, but I would guess that success for students with three MCAT attempts is probably pretty low. This isn't intended to kill anyone's dreams, but it is important to be realistic about where you stand.

One more thing to add, if you scored a 33+, don't even bother considering retaking the MCAT, because that is not what's holding you back. Plus, an improvement from 35 to 39 is not that big of a difference (hear that shep? we're equals!).
 
Plus, an improvement from 35 to 39 is not that big of a difference (hear that shep? we're equals!).

Whatever helps you sleep at night, man...
:rolleyes:


But you're actually right. The difference is like a quarter of a percentile.
39 still sounds sexier to people who don't know that, though.
And let's be honest with ourselves- what's more important in life than the misinformed perceptions of complete strangers?
 
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Whatever helps you sleep at night, man...
:rolleyes:


But you're actually right. The difference is like a quarter of a percentile.
39 still sounds sexier to people who don't know that, though.
And let's be honest with ourselves- what's more important in life than the misinformed perceptions of complete strangers?

Especially when those strangers are ladies :smuggrin: "That's right, I got 39...now which one of you lucky ladies wants to buy me a beer before we head back to my place?"
 
Especially when those strangers are ladies :smuggrin: "That's right, I got 39...now which one of you lucky ladies wants to buy me a beer before we head back to my place?"

If I had a nickel for every time I've used that one....
 
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