What are you going to buy with your first real Doc paycheck?

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Psai said:
yeah **** people who worked hard to get where they are
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Feel the bern!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DoctorLacrosse said:
haha @SouthernSurgeon @FindMeOnTheLinks you guys are WRX'ers too? I try to avoid the classifieds, it can get ugly for my bank account.

that 009 is gorgeous though. I don't think I could justify the price, but it would be a dream. I'd certainly take Spieth's, super stroke grip and all.
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Yeah haha it's bad. I just dropped a few hundo a Scotty TEI3 longneck that I definitely didn't need since I only play once a month these days (post exam destress). But it was from the custom shop with lime green paint fill, custom shop shaft band and custom shop heacover so I just couldn't say no
 
Psai said:
yeah **** people who worked hard to get where they are
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It's still a rigged system. Bernie believes no one deserves to be living in luxury today when so many are living in poverty. We are going to redistribute any money we make over 250k that we would've used to buy luxuries because if Americans want to be like the socialistic countries, we will need to make less money as doctors or pay way more in taxes to pick up the lower/middle class. It's going to be inevitable.

Still think we deserve more money for becoming doctors? We weren't supposed to be doing it for the luxury. We were supposed to work hard to do a career we wanted to do.
 
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How are some of you 400k in debt? Jeez.

I'm thankful I don't have any undergraduate debt, and Texas medical schools are notoriously cheap. So I'm gonna end up 80-120k in debt. Even in a lower paying specialty I could pay that off in less than 5 years if I wanted.
 
I just love that argument. Because there's no way someone could work just as hard, 60 hour weeks plus child care and all that ****, and still be scraping by right?? How hard you work is not actually a good logic to defend 250k+

Next step is to say it's not just your work but how valuable you are, how few others can provide your service. But that just takes the above argument and adds being born with the smarts to do med. Lucky winning a genetic lottery still isn't a good argument for living excessively well while someone else also slaves away just as much and struggles
 
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I just love that argument. Because there's no way someone could work just as hard, 60 hour weeks plus child care and all that ****, and still be scraping by right?? How hard you work is not actually a good logic to defend 250k+

Next step is to say it's not just your work but how valuable you are, how few others can provide your service. But that just takes the above argument and adds being born with the smarts to do med. Lucky winning a genetic lottery still isn't a good argument for living excessively well while someone else also slaves away just as much and struggles
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I was not born with the smarts to do med...
I was born with a lampshade for a head...
I toiled day and night to make all this bread...
that's why bernie is the one who I dread...
why should I be he who is left less fed?...
when it is I who dug this trench and bled...
I looked to see unto where it had fled...
for that which I fought for was now scarlet red...
it is not to be credited the life that is led...
but assumed that it must be the way life was bred...
though much can be seen looking out past the spread...
at the disparate souls who in deep waters tread...
to whom must belong all these years that I've thread...
and all things luxurious, even my new 5k bed...
but to my dismay, after all that was said...
I looked out among them and what I saw instead...
for those who have reaped the rewards that I've shed...
are all too familiar, I've been misled...
they too were born with a lampshade for a head...
 
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Yeah haha it's bad. I just dropped a few hundo a Scotty TEI3 longneck that I definitely didn't need since I only play once a month these days (post exam destress). But it was from the custom shop with lime green paint fill, custom shop shaft band and custom shop heacover so I just couldn't say no
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haha that does sound pretty sweet though, definitely worth it. I've always been a heavier head putter guy, so I play a scotty squareback with a plummer neck. was hard to find, but I'll never let it go!
 
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Down payment for a 911 GT3
 
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I love how this thread has turned into delusional socialist pre-meds vilifying people who make a lot of money.
 
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Can we take the politics to the appropriate forum and enjoy this one???


If I have my debt paid off, I'd love to firstly send my dad on a cruise, and secondly put a down payment on a Steinway baby grand.

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PL198 said:
I love how this thread has turned into delusional socialist pre-meds vilifying people who make a lot of money.
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Get used to it. The % of people who approve of "democratic" socialism is growing every day. Especially when we allow immigration as freely as we do, letting in MORE people who support it and it's freebies while they have 5+ kids who will grow up to support it. It's inevitably going to happen.

Docs, get your wallets ready for Uncle Sam.

Also we have totally turned into a society who hate on the 2% household income. Aka most doctors and their spouses.
 
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Anicetus said:
Get used to it. The % of people who approve of "democratic" socialism is growing every day. Especially when we allow immigration as freely as we do, letting in MORE people who support it and it's freebies while they have 5+ kids who will grow up to support it. It's inevitably going to happen.

Docs, get your wallets ready for Uncle Sam.

Also we have totally turned into a society who hate on the 2% household income. Aka most doctors and their spouses.
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Cool.



I will definitely take my g/f possibly fiance or wife at that time to a churrascaria for dinner and then get a dog.
 
Anicetus said:
Get used to it. The % of people who approve of "democratic" socialism is growing every day. Especially when we allow immigration as freely as we do, letting in MORE people who support it and it's freebies while they have 5+ kids who will grow up to support it. It's inevitably going to happen.

Docs, get your wallets ready for Uncle Sam.

Also we have totally turned into a society who hate on the 2% household income. Aka most doctors and their spouses.
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weren't you the poster who compared living in the Dakotas to slavery?

As for the actual question, I bought a 100 dollar nike running jacket at 50% off after I got my first paycheck. I know... living large.
 
Milotic said:
It's still a rigged system. Bernie believes no one deserves to be living in luxury today when so many are living in poverty. We are going to redistribute any money we make over 250k that we would've used to buy luxuries because if Americans want to be like the socialistic countries, we will need to make less money as doctors or pay way more in taxes to pick up the lower/middle class. It's going to be inevitable.

Still think we deserve more money for becoming doctors? We weren't supposed to be doing it for the luxury. We were supposed to work hard to do a career we wanted to do.
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Plenty of people living in poverty on government dole buy luxuries. I've seen it

So I won't feel bad when I get a maserati with my first paycheck. No poverty bmws here
 
going to use my signing bonus to put a payment down on a house. modest house. save until 37-40, then move into nicer neighborhood. keep saving for dream car, porche cayenne
 
Funke said:
Can we take the politics to the appropriate forum and enjoy this one???


If I have my debt paid off, I'd love to firstly send my dad on a cruise, and secondly put a down payment on a Steinway baby grand.

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I sent my parents on a cruise after becoming an attending, but it was a 3 day cruise so was under 500 i think. Probably not what you had in mind i guess.

I remember when we were on our honeymoon (while in med school) planning to have a 10 yr anniversary vow renewal at the fancy hotel we stayed near and flying our parents out first class. However, when the 10 yr came around i realized that we were about 10 yrs behind in retirement planning/wealth building, so throwing money around like that isn't the thing to do.
 
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I sent my parents on a cruise after becoming an attending, but it was a 3 day cruise so was under 500 i think. Probably not what you had in mind i guess.

I remember when we were on our honeymoon (while in med school) planning to have a 10 yr anniversary vow renewal at the fancy hotel we stayed near and flying our parents out first class. However, when the 10 yr came around i realized that we were about 10 yrs behind in retirement planning/wealth building, so throwing money around like that isn't the thing to do.
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Eh a 3 day cruise would be fine if we were still paying off debt and didn't want to spend much, but our plan is to be debt free out of residency because my wife has a good paying job that she can keep even when we move.

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You guys are all ridiculous...when you think about spending all this money. For some of us, It's going to be years! Some of you like others will spend at least 10 years in training (4 years med school, 5 years in residency, maybe another couple of years in fellowship) and then join an academic medical center where you've been conditioned to enjoy living like a student. :) That's ok. we love what we're doing. we signed up for it.
 
22031 Alum said:
If you're going to get a luxury car, please remember that cost of ownership (maintenance costs) is a thing. I don't go a day without hearing someone at work moaning about some $8,000 sprocket that has to be shipped in from Germany.
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Easy solution: buy American. Buy in increments of 400hp. lol


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A certified pre-owned Mercedes S-class with extended warranty.

#ShkertShkert
 
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cosine89 said:
going to use my signing bonus to put a payment down on a house. modest house. save until 37-40, then move into nicer neighborhood. keep saving for dream car, porche cayenne
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Your dream car is a Porsche Cayenne. Eww.
 
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PL198 said:
I love how this thread has turned into delusional socialist pre-meds vilifying people who make a lot of money.
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Anicetus said:
Get used to it. The % of people who approve of "democratic" socialism is growing every day. Especially when we allow immigration as freely as we do, letting in MORE people who support it and it's freebies while they have 5+ kids who will grow up to support it. It's inevitably going to happen.

Docs, get your wallets ready for Uncle Sam.

Also we have totally turned into a society who hate on the 2% household income. Aka most doctors and their spouses.
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That's what happens when the education system brainwashes you. Good news is that the % of doctors with any sort of business sense or skills is minimal --> if you have strong business skills you will be in the top 10% of income in medicine which will be a very high number for many years to come.



I like seeing people in this field appreciate luxury and more importantly spending on luxurious things while still somewhat young. What good is a Ferrari when you're 60 and have cancer or just had a heart attack? Enjoy life while you can. For most people the golden years are 18-22 but 30s and 40s can still be somewhat decent with a good career like medicine.
 
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WingedOx said:
that's a REALLY sad statement.
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Why? It's the time when you have the maximum combination of freedom, low responsibility, free time and low stress. It's also the time when you have the highest ceiling to be in peak physical condition and have the best looks facewise (unless high body fat). I don't think anyone's brief vacation time or weekends during a 50-60 hour work week even remotely compare to the typical college experience (or anything similar to that lifestyle during that time period).
 
MedicineZ0Z said:
Why? It's the time when you have the maximum combination of freedom, low responsibility, free time and low stress. It's also the time when you have the highest ceiling to be in peak physical condition and have the best looks facewise (unless high body fat). I don't think anyone's brief vacation time or weekends during a 50-60 hour work week even remotely compare to the typical college experience (or anything similar to that lifestyle during that time period).
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For you, physical youth and beauty may be important factors in your happiness, but these are not the only factors. Even then, men are not at their physical peak until their late 20's and early 30's anyway.

For many of us, experience, knowledge, and wisdom are far more crucial attributes that deepen our appreciation of life. At 32, I am superior to my 22-year-old self in every way I can imagine, both mentally and physically.
 
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ZPakEffect said:
For you, physical youth and beauty may be important factors in your happiness, but these are not the only factors. Even then, men are not at their physical peak until their late 20's and early 30's anyway.

For many of us, experience, knowledge, and wisdom are far more crucial attributes that deepen our appreciation of life. At 32, I am superior to my 22-year-old self in every way I can imagine, both mentally and physically.
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I think I'm actually being very objective in saying that the dopamine rushes you get during your young years are as good as it gets. If someone wastes those years away, then of course they'll have a better time in the future. If someone uses that time well, then it won't be possible to improve upon that.

Your physical prime is not your late 20s or early 30s. Any competitive athlete would agree with this.... Your reaction time actually peaks in early 20s while strength peaks later in theory but most people get hit hard with injuries from mid 20s onwards. To understand this you need to understanding the ceiling concept. Someone can be in excellent shape at 60 years old but their ceiling is far lower than it was at 40 or 30 or 21. Similar concepts apply to cognitive function... though early to mid 20s is the peak time for that.
 
MedicineZ0Z said:
I think I'm actually being very objective in saying that the dopamine rushes you get during your young years are as good as it gets. If someone wastes those years away, then of course they'll have a better time in the future. If someone uses that time well, then it won't be possible to improve upon that.

Your physical prime is not your late 20s or early 30s. Any competitive athlete would agree with this.... Your reaction time actually peaks in early 20s while strength peaks later in theory but most people get hit hard with injuries from mid 20s onwards. To understand this you need to understanding the ceiling concept. Someone can be in excellent shape at 60 years old but their ceiling is far lower than it was at 40 or 30 or 21. Similar concepts apply to cognitive function... though early to mid 20s is the peak time for that.
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Any competitive athlete huh? What about Usain Bolt, who has won 8 of his 11 World Championship gold medals in his late 20s? What about Tom Brady, who won 3 of his 4 Superbowl titles during his late 20s to early 30s? Novak Djokovic is now the most dominant tennis player in the world in his late 20s. The examples are countless. Many professional athletes have their most productive years during their late 20s.

Your claim about cognitive function is just as suspect. Browse through the list of Nobel Prize winners in any of the scientific fields and count how many of the prizes were awarded for work done in the recipients' 20s versus work done in later decades of life.
 
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ZPakEffect said:
Any competitive athlete huh? What about Usain Bolt, who has won 8 of his 11 World Championship gold medals in his late 20s? What about Tom Brady, who won 3 of his 4 Superbowl titles during his late 20s to early 30s? Novak Djokovic is now the most dominant tennis player in the world in his late 20s. The examples are countless. Many professional athletes have their most productive years during their late 20s.

Your claim about cognitive function is just as suspect. Browse through the list of Nobel Prize winners in any of the scientific fields and count how many of the prizes were awarded for work done in the recipients' 20s versus work done in later decades of life.
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The only person you named who had their success based on a single attribute was usain bolt who actually ran his world record at the age of 22 and has never been even remotely close to that level since. Your other 2 examples consist of those relying on a skillset which can fine tune over the course of ones 20s. But you're talking about the best of the best. Typical everyday athletes who train from a younger age will peak during their early 20s for the most part and slowly decline or at best maintain for a few years.

When was Einstein's scientific framework developed? Good example of how a scientist will make the hardest push of their research career during their younger years when cognition is at its peak.
 
MedicineZ0Z said:
The only person you named who had their success based on a single attribute was usain bolt who actually ran his world record at the age of 22 and has never been even remotely close to that level since. Your other 2 examples consist of those relying on a skillset which can fine tune over the course of ones 20s. But you're talking about the best of the best. Typical everyday athletes who train from a younger age will peak during their early 20s for the most part and slowly decline or at best maintain for a few years.

When was Einstein's scientific framework developed? Good example of how a scientist will make the hardest push of their research career during their younger years when cognition is at its peak.
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You're moving the goalposts all over the field. When faced with overwhelming counterexamples to your argument, you resort to selectively choosing single examples that fit your point-of-view. Gain another decade or two and you'll start to understand why youth is wasted on the young.

By the way, Einstein published his Annus Mirabilis papers when he was 26 and his Field Equations when he was 36.
 
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a nice squat rack, bench, deadlifting platform, barbell with plaets + some other accessories. should run ~2k and would pay for itself in 2yrs. if i want to splurge id throw down for a nice sound system so i dont have to lift to justin bieber
 
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MedicineZ0Z said:
I think I'm actually being very objective in saying that the dopamine rushes you get during your young years are as good as it gets. If someone wastes those years away, then of course they'll have a better time in the future. If someone uses that time well, then it won't be possible to improve upon that.

Your physical prime is not your late 20s or early 30s. Any competitive athlete would agree with this.... Your reaction time actually peaks in early 20s while strength peaks later in theory but most people get hit hard with injuries from mid 20s onwards. To understand this you need to understanding the ceiling concept. Someone can be in excellent shape at 60 years old but their ceiling is far lower than it was at 40 or 30 or 21. Similar concepts apply to cognitive function... though early to mid 20s is the peak time for that.
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Jesus, dude, how old are you anyway? You sound like that guy who keeps coming back to his old fraternity house on the weekends two years after he graduated.

Sorry, but anyone who's "best years" were in college really fcked up somewhere down the line. There's a reason why people my age aren't hanging out in bars full of college students, and it's not because we've lost the ability to have fun.
 
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WingedOx said:
Jesus, dude, how old are you anyway? You sound like that guy who keeps coming back to his old fraternity house on the weekends two years after he graduated.

Sorry, but anyone who's "best years" were in college really fcked up somewhere down the line. There's a reason why people my age aren't hanging out in bars full of college students, and it's not because we've lost the ability to have fun.
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Preach. I'm starting to feel out of place because I can feel this happening, and I'm only 25.

I was not a very good person from 18-22. Looking back all I can do half the time is cringe.
 
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MedicineZ0Z said:
I think I'm actually being very objective in saying that the dopamine rushes you get during your young years are as good as it gets. If someone wastes those years away, then of course they'll have a better time in the future. If someone uses that time well, then it won't be possible to improve upon that.

Your physical prime is not your late 20s or early 30s. Any competitive athlete would agree with this.... Your reaction time actually peaks in early 20s while strength peaks later in theory but most people get hit hard with injuries from mid 20s onwards. To understand this you need to understanding the ceiling concept. Someone can be in excellent shape at 60 years old but their ceiling is far lower than it was at 40 or 30 or 21. Similar concepts apply to cognitive function... though early to mid 20s is the peak time for that.
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We don't need to hear about you doing lines of coke in the bathroom bro.
 
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Anicetus said:
i can't wait till Bernie sanders wins making a lot of disappointed people in this specific thread.
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I can't wait till you realize Bernie can't do anything without the Senate and House which is controlled by the Republicans. The Senate will 100% retain republican majority and therefore killing any plans Bernie has.
 
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WingedOx said:
Jesus, dude, how old are you anyway? You sound like that guy who keeps coming back to his old fraternity house on the weekends two years after he graduated.

Sorry, but anyone who's "best years" were in college really fcked up somewhere down the line. There's a reason why people my age aren't hanging out in bars full of college students, and it's not because we've lost the ability to have fun.
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Unless you wasted those years (which many do) then it's essentially impossible for your life to be better for the reasons I pointed out. I've never met anyone who disagreed and all of them are doing really well.
You simply will not have the free time and low stress environment necessary to do much. Remaining objective and realistic is very important for people in this field. False expectations = unhappiness down the line.
 
MedicineZ0Z said:
Unless you wasted those years (which many do) then it's essentially impossible for your life to be better for the reasons I pointed out. I've never met anyone who disagreed and all of them are doing really well.
You simply will not have the free time and low stress environment necessary to do much. Remaining objective and realistic is very important for people in this field. False expectations = unhappiness down the line.
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My 4 or 5 vacations a year (along with several weekend trips) since starting private practice certainly argues against your point (particularly since i worked and went to school for moat of my 20s).
 
I don't have many materialistic desires. However once my debts are paid off, I'll probably save up for an epic 2 wk vacation. I'm too cheap to deal with the hassles of owning a super car
 
Hookers and blow, and NOT get into trouble with law enforcement.

Let it rain!!!!!!1111
 
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Mad Jack said:
Never quite got what people saw in California myself. Northern California is nice I guess, but Southern California has cities that pale in comparison to NYC if you're looking for big city living, Austin if you're looking for an artistic, vibrant city, or just about anywhere in Hawaii if you want sun and ocean. California always felt so shallow to me, a veneer of exceptionalism plastered on an objectively unexceptional place.
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NYC sucks. Sorry bro.
 
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dpmd said:
My 4 or 5 vacations a year (along with several weekend trips) since starting private practice certainly argues against your point (particularly since i worked and went to school for moat of my 20s).
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To each their own. As long as you're satisfied now that's all that matters + it's all you can control. I was just pointing out a general objective point.
 
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