Look, I can't read your mind, I can only read what you wrote. If you want to say that I interpreted it incorrectly, that's fine. And I appreciate the clarification of your stance, because I honestly was not getting most of it from your first post.
Nowhere did I say that I prefer independence for independence's sake. I have been in a relationship for 4 years. I know I can rely on my SO if I need to, just as know that I can rely on my family. But there is a difference between knowing that I can rely on someone and being obligated to.
The way that your earlier post was written strictly referred to women (and in a generalizing way) with a lot of what you talk about, whereas clearly you meant for your thoughts to apply to men and women. I don't disagree that the kind of hardening you talk about can be the root of someone's choice to do things more on their own. But it doesn't have to be. You may not have intended for that implication to be in your earlier post, but it was there, and there isn't much accounting for author's intent.
We have a fundamental difference in the way we view relationships if you think that anyone, man or woman, should be "in charge" in the relationship at all. But again, I appreciate the clarification of your stance.
It seems you may have misunderstood some parts of my response as well. I understood what you meant when you said strong, and I certainly did not think you meant women needed more cruel/strict/etc. men in their lives. It goes back to the fact that the post was unbalanced, placing too much importance, I think, on the specific role of a certain type of male in a woman's life. But maybe I am biased--I was raised by a single mother, and I found her strength to be more important in my life than that of any of the positive male figures that I had. Rest assured, you don't have to tell me to read.
As for the rest, I read it (with no foot-tapping involved!) and I can respect your views. I would only say that personally, though I may be exchanging one type of subservience for another as you say, I am deeply protective of my right to make that choice. I don't put much, if any, stock in traditional gender roles. Were women empowered? I think so. If only because we are maybe moving towards a time where, for example, the default won't be for a woman to be questioned about who will take care of her family as she pursues her career, while it is assumed that in a man's case, that is what his wife is for.
As for my snarkiness, I will not apologize for that...i enjoy a healthy dose of sarcasm