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FORTLIVINGROOM said:
Ahh yes, I dream of a nation where jingoism prevailed and the US didn't sell itself out to foreign companies' CEOs. You know...the ones who have no unions and provide a fraction of the healthcare and retirement benefits of US automakers.
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Why do you think the foreign automakers are in their current position? Drivers grew tired of their domestic jalopies and noticed the cars produced by dem dad gum foreigners were reliable. It's not some conspiracy to take money from hard-working US union members and give it to the Far East so they can buy more rice.

Most people no longer want to be the battered wife and decide instead to move on to greener pastures. I wish a red-blooded American pasture would grow next to these rice paddies, because choice is wonderful.

I'm glad you like your Jeep. They enabled the greatest generation to win a World War. Oddly enough, fighting the same people who are now taking money from Americans. On second thought, this might be a conspiracy.
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To be honest, no US car company manufactures a vehicle that catches my eye. I like rally cars and a Ford Focus doesn't do it for me. I love my Mazdaspeed but I would have picked the Lancer Evo had I known it was hundreds of pounds lighter than the Mazda.
 
ValeUC said:
To be honest, no US car company manufactures a vehicle that catches my eye. I like rally cars and a Ford Focus doesn't do it for me. I love my Mazdaspeed but I would have picked the Lancer Evo had I known it was hundreds of pounds lighter than the Mazda.
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I like a mix of luxury and performance thus an Evo doesn't cut it, perhaps a BMW M5.
 
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Sparda29 said:
So are Evos and Mazdas. The only American car I'd consider buying is the Corvette ZR1.
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The blue devil is a beast. $100,000 car with over 600 horsepower. I'm surprised one can legally drive this car on the street. It's incredibly powerful and sometimes, scary to drive. Overall, one of the best American made race car. The best bang for your bucks...
 
BE AMERICAN BUY AMERICAN

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What I think depresses me most is how badly the domestic automakers have ruined their reputations with a lot of consumers, to the point that even when/if they make a good, competitive vehicle, a lot of people still won't bother to look at it. You can't even really blame 'em, either - if the '85 Caprice you owned was a heap, after which you bought an Accord that ran until the body just rusted off the frame, is it unreasonable that you'd go back for another Accord and not look at a Malibu?
 
Here's my car. Truck actually. Haven't ran it in about a year. Just tuning it up and cleaning. Will try to run it tomorrow.

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Not my video.. but I run it on our golf course. When it shifts to 2nd gear...it hauls arse.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8tcJYiXdUQ[/youtube]
 
US automakers need to open their eyes and take a look at what people are buying. They have nothing to compete with the Audi A4/BMW 3 series/mid-range performance sedans. As it stands, you can either buy a Ford Escort or a Corvette... there's nothing worthwhile in the middle.
 
ValeUC said:
US automakers need to open their eyes and take a look at what people are buying. They have nothing to compete with the Audi A4/BMW 3 series/mid-range performance sedans. As it stands, you can either buy a Ford Escort or a Corvette... there's nothing worthwhile in the middle.
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Ford is starting to do some interesting things. The new Flex and Taurus coming out in June are pretty sweet. The F150 is the best pickup truck ever made...that's probably a hilljack thing though.
 
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I just realized that the new Taurus and the Flex have the same engine...it will only be a matter time before some guy somewhere puts the twin-turbo from the Taurus SHO in the Flex...and then they will have 365-HP Flexes on the road...and that will be hilarious.
 
Sparda29 said:
That's what the product claims. I don't know if I've mistakened what the thing is called, I guess others would call it adding a chip. But here is what I'm getting installed.

http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu_upgrade_passatcc20tsi.html
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Yeah...there's this intercooler I can get for the T-bird SC that claims 125HP increases from the manufacturer. The most anyone's every dyno'd before and after is a 50HP gain...lol. They will lie to your face about specs.
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
The German economy thanks you.

At least it isn't a Honda.
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Japan contributes more to the US economy than Germany. Japan owns most of our debt, allowing us to keep our standard of living high. U.S. automakers and the Germans sell us shoddy cars that sap all of our income. What can I say, I don't like being a battered wife. Ford has become the exception, and I'll consider buying a Ford when I purchase my next vehicle.

Major foreign holders of U.S. treasuries: http://www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt

Who owns the U.S. national debt: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17424874/
 
rphello said:
Japan contributes more to the US economy than Germany. Japan owns most of our debt, allowing us to keep our standard of living high. U.S. automakers and the Germans sell us shoddy cars that sap all of our income. What can I say, I don't like being a battered wife. Ford has become the exception, and I'll consider buying a Ford when I purchase my next vehicle.

Major foreign holders of U.S. treasuries: http://www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt

Who owns the U.S. national debt: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17424874/
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I just hate Hondas...and if you buy any non-American car (hell, even something just assembled here is fine by me)...I think you are lame.
 
Sparda29 said:
That's what the product claims. I don't know if I've mistakened what the thing is called, I guess others would call it adding a chip. But here is what I'm getting installed.

http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu_upgrade_passatcc20tsi.html
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Those claims seem extremely extraordinary. I would say I know a little about cars and the ONLY thing I've ever seen raise the horsepower on a vehicle drastically is a FMIC which would be about 25 or so HP and an aftermarket catback exhaust. Cold air intakes also increase horsepower by about 10 or so. You might also want to take a look at the CRANK horsepower vs wheel horsepower. My turbo Mazda claims 274HP... but that's at the crank. The reality is that it is more like 225 at the wheels. Big difference. So if your VW says 250hp at the crank, its more like 200 at the wheel.


edit: I would email the company for a dyno sheet. Only that could give you a better idea about the true hp/torque gains.
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
I just hate Hondas...and if you buy any non-American car (hell, even something just assembled here is fine by me)...I think you are lame.
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My car was assembled in Kentucky, so I guess I'm free from a life of lameness. I also have the sticker on my rear window of Calvin urinating on the Honda logo. They are lame.
 
New SHO = DO WANT. Handsome, refined, understated looks + 365 horsepower + AWD.... :love:

In unrelated news, it seems the new Camaro will be rated at 29mpg highway with the 3.6L V6. Not bad for 304 horsepower, in a car that isn't really that lightweight.
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
I just hate Hondas...and if you buy any non-American car (hell, even something just assembled here is fine by me)...I think you are lame.
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Only thing is that most American cars seem like they were not built with good handling in mind, it's like the automakers assumed we are all gonna drive on straight roads.
 
Sparda29 said:
Only thing is that most American cars seem like they were not built with good handling in mind, it's like the automakers assumed we are all gonna drive on straight roads.
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Here in America, we have lots of straight roads. :thumbup:

I suppose the average American idea of quality is just different. Makes me mad that we still (for the most part) haven't wrapped our heads around the idea that a small car can be well-appointed and worth the money - something along the lines of a Mini S, Audi A1, etc. I think of myself as pretty open-minded, but I think I would still have trouble paying $30k+ for a FWD compact, no matter how nice.

How's the CC? Kinda surprised they're already modifying them...
 
I like the Chrysler Cordoba, the old Buick Riviera, and any car with suicide doors. New cars don't do much for me. As a matter of practicality I'm kind of forced to drive a glorified Toyota Camry (Lexus es300). It's been a solid car, I've had it for 10 years and no problems with engine or trans.
 
NaOH said:
Here in America, we have lots of straight roads. :thumbup:

I suppose the average American idea of quality is just different. Makes me mad that we still (for the most part) haven't wrapped our heads around the idea that a small car can be well-appointed and worth the money - something along the lines of a Mini S, Audi A1, etc. I think of myself as pretty open-minded, but I think I would still have trouble paying $30k+ for a FWD compact, no matter how nice.

How's the CC? Kinda surprised they're already modifying them...
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I'm just confused as to why Americans need/want a Hummer. I personally think the Sequoia is big enough to suit a family's needs but then Ford has its Expedition, Lincoln has its giants, and then there's the Hummer.
 
fhx06 said:
I'm just confused as to why Americans need/want a Hummer. I personally think the Sequoia is big enough to suit a family's needs but then Ford has its Expedition, Lincoln has its giants, and then there's the Hummer.
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Hummers are manly, of course. :flex:
Almost every full-line automaker got into the SUV/truck boom, some earlier, some later - even brands like Honda and Toyota that have a reputation for efficiency. I mean, I grew up driving a truck and I understand the appeal (honestly, I'd love to have another one if I could justify it) but when I'm told that a quad-cab F-150 is 'the new family sedan' it gets on my nerves.
 
NaOH said:
Hummers are manly, of course. :flex:
Almost every full-line automaker got into the SUV/truck boom, some earlier, some later - even brands like Honda and Toyota that have a reputation for efficiency. I mean, I grew up driving a truck and I understand the appeal (honestly, I'd love to have another one if I could justify it) but when I'm told that a quad-cab F-150 is 'the new family sedan' it gets on my nerves.
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So what you are saying is American lines have basically carved their own downfall. ;)
 
fhx06 said:
So what you are saying is American lines have basically carved their own downfall. ;)
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Well, they went where the profits were. It wasn't even a completely dumb decision really, considering trucks/SUVs are something they've always done well. They just made the mistake of putting all their eggs in the same basket and not planning for the future. So yeah, I guess they did.


What am I gonna do in the future when all I can buy is an egg-shaped compact powered by compressed air? :lame:
 
NaOH said:
Well, they went where the profits were. It wasn't even a completely dumb decision really, considering trucks/SUVs are something they've always done well. They just made the mistake of putting all their eggs in the same basket and not planning for the future. So yeah, I guess they did.


What am I gonna do in the future when all I can buy is an egg-shaped compact powered by compressed air? :lame:
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If your credit is whack, buy a used subcompact.

Hydrogen, for what it is worth, is definitely a great fuel source if there were decent ways to generate it in mass. I personally would love to drive a vehicle powered by pixie dust and my imagination but I suppose I can only sleep for so many hours before I can be legally considered dead.
 
NaOH said:
Here in America, we have lots of straight roads. :thumbup:

I suppose the average American idea of quality is just different. Makes me mad that we still (for the most part) haven't wrapped our heads around the idea that a small car can be well-appointed and worth the money - something along the lines of a Mini S, Audi A1, etc. I think of myself as pretty open-minded, but I think I would still have trouble paying $30k+ for a FWD compact, no matter how nice.

How's the CC? Kinda surprised they're already modifying them...
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Yeah, that's the thing isn't it. As a NYCer, we don't have many straight roads. We love our curves and would like cars that can do them at 90 mph without flopping around.

The CC is awesome, it seems to be the kind of car that will get you a lot of "badge", I'll let you guys figure that out, I heard the term on Top Gear once.

I was driving out of Manhattan today, the guy next to me lowered his windows and told me I had a nice car. Then I parked on Steinway St, and a bunch of guys sitting around having coffee started pointing at my car like, "ooh, the new CC".

The one thing I love about this car is how you don't see many on the road. I have not seen any other Volkswagen CC's on the road in the 2 days I've had this car. I hope my neighbor doesn't copy my selection of car though, I got the Accord, 2 months later he gets the same Accord.
 
You drive around a city going 90MPH? Are you insane?

I've never really understood people who spend >90% of their time driving around in cities that buy performance cars. I know plenty of them in Philly. I always wondered what the point is. They hit the hammer down Broad street...go 80 yards...hit a stoplight...hit the hammer...50 yards...stoplight...and so on. Hell, you can do that in a Chevy Aveo.
 
Sparda29 said:
The one thing I love about this car is how you don't see many on the road. I have not seen any other Volkswagen CC's on the road in the 2 days I've had this car.
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That's one of the things I like about mine - it's very rare that I see another GTO in Little Rock, usually not but 2-3 a month. They only imported about 45k from '04-'06, and now that they're getting older and the prices are dropping, they're ending up in the hands of 20-year olds who wrap them around trees seemingly all the time.

And I can see the point about having a performance car when you're going to be spending a lot of time in traffic. It IS kind of a waste. I'm grateful that LR is not so large that I have to worry about it too much though, there's still plenty of places to stretch her legs a bit.
 
Sparda29 said:
The one thing I love about this car is how you don't see many on the road. I have not seen any other Volkswagen CC's on the road in the 2 days I've had this car.
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Maybe it's because of your curfew?
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
I just hate Hondas...and if you buy any non-American car (hell, even something just assembled here is fine by me)...I think you are lame.
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What about Acura? lol

Actually, many Japanese cars are made here in the US. You can just as much blame Ford for outsourcing jobs.

http://autos.aol.com/article/car-news/is-it-made-in-america/20070329142409990001
http://www.boston.com/cars/news/articles/2006/09/24/made_in_america_hard_to_tell/
http://www.myride.com/industry/toyota_made_in_america-760-page1.html
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
You drive around a city going 90MPH? Are you insane?

I've never really understood people who spend >90% of their time driving around in cities that buy performance cars. I know plenty of them in Philly. I always wondered what the point is. They hit the hammer down Broad street...go 80 yards...hit a stoplight...hit the hammer...50 yards...stoplight...and so on. Hell, you can do that in a Chevy Aveo.
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The city...hmm nope, maximum I'll do in the city is 60 mph, but remember I live in the suburbs (Long Island), thus I can drive out there are 90 mph on the highway. The one thing with this car compared to my old Honda is that, you do not get a sense of how fast you are going in the Volkswagen.

Back in my Honda, once I got to 85 mph, the car started shaking and made a lot of noise, you knew that you were going fast. I hit 100 mph in my Volkswagen thinking I'm only going 70.

The car has a speed reminder that you can set, so the car will let you know when you've exceeded that speed, I had to turn it on.
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
I just hate Hondas...and if you buy any non-American car (hell, even something just assembled here is fine by me)...I think you are lame.
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I have 3 Hondas! :thumbup:

But I make up for it by having an Alabama built Motorhome with a big ass Cummins built on a Freightliner Chasis with Allison Tranny and a diesel Onan generator. And most parts on the RV are made in the US. And I burned 80 gallons of diesel last week and spewed a ton of pollution in the air to increase the global warming to counter the global cooling they're predicting!
 
Sparda29 said:
The city...hmm nope, maximum I'll do in the city is 60 mph, but remember I live in the suburbs (Long Island), thus I can drive out there are 90 mph on the highway. The one thing with this car compared to my old Honda is that, you do not get a sense of how fast you are going in the Volkswagen.

Back in my Honda, once I got to 85 mph, the car started shaking and made a lot of noise, you knew that you were going fast. I hit 100 mph in my Volkswagen thinking I'm only going 70.

The car has a speed reminder that you can set, so the car will let you know when you've exceeded that speed, I had to turn it on.
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What trim is your CC?
 
applejuju said:
What about Acura? lol

Actually, many Japanese cars are made here in the US. You can just as much blame Ford for outsourcing jobs.

http://autos.aol.com/article/car-news/is-it-made-in-america/20070329142409990001
http://www.boston.com/cars/news/articles/2006/09/24/made_in_america_hard_to_tell/
http://www.myride.com/industry/toyota_made_in_america-760-page1.html
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Bull...most of the actual money goes overseas, either way. And as I've mentioned, I have much less of a problem with foreign badged cars that were at least assembled in the US. But if its a foreign company and foreign assembly...f that. No way in hell.
 
Sparda29 said:
CC Sport. I can't afford the others yet, nor do the other models come in Manual Transmission. Besides, it looks and performs like a great car, and comes at a damn decent price.
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Yeah I was gonna say, the others are overpriced for what you get. A V6 w/o a turbo and only 280 HP with automatic transmission is a NO GO. Now since your car is a turbo, first order of business should be to get a cold air intake or short ram. Don't worry about that 'add on' chip right now.
 
ValeUC said:
Yeah I was gonna say, the others are overpriced for what you get. A V6 w/o a turbo and only 280 HP with automatic transmission is a NO GO. Now since your car is a turbo, first order of business should be to get a cold air intake or short ram. Don't worry about that 'add on' chip right now.
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Will this void my warranty? I'm leasing it.
 
Sparda29 said:
Will this void my warranty? I'm leasing it.
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Yes but so will putting in some additional computer chip. The advantage of BPV/BOV's (which I can fill you in on later) and aftermarket intakes is that you can replace them, and then when you need to take it in for service, you simply put the stock part back on. Installation of a new intake = 30 min at the most.

Also, it depends on the dealer. An aftermarket intake wont void your ENTIRE warranty, it would only void the intake part. So if you threw a rod or something, the intake SHOULDNT void any warranty repair work on it because it wouldn't cause the rod to throw.
 
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this thread has turned hilarious

people telling other people what to like and what not to buy

hahahaha

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the land of opportunity.....but if you buy non-american, then consder yourself lame
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