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I've always wanted to start one of these...So here we go!
My stats:
M2
Test time: June 2018
Goal score: 270
My stats:
M2
Test time: June 2018
Goal score: 270
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good luck to you all... all the feels we will see if I survive this without a stress ulcerI wouldn’t necessarily say I’m ‘dealing with it’ hahaha. I’m going to freak out if someone who took it later that the 21st reports that their permit has disappeared.
while i agree with everything else that you say, it kind of bugs me when i see people giving nonsensical advice about research. my pet peeve when i read it here on sdn. "a few first authored pubs"? do you happen to have some? do you know anyone who does? a first authorship is a really big deal. one is plenty. most and i should stress it: MOST folks dont have any pubs after a year. some do. hardly anyone has first author pubs. you CAN write up a review if you want to. but a publication? what you recommend is pretty much like telling someone in an md/phd program to get a nature publication... yeah bro... just get it... you know...What did you expect with a 222 NBME 18 2 weeks out.. actually you should be happy with the 10 point increase in 2 weeks.. many people fall around the NBME 18 score..some below and few more..
IM is totally do-able.. get a few first authored pubs if you can.. that will ease the process..else 232 is more than the IMG mean of IM matched applicants..
while i agree with everything else that you say, it kind of bugs me when i see people giving nonsensical advice about research. my pet peeve when i read it here on sdn. "a few first authored pubs"? do you happen to have some? do you know anyone who does? a first authorship is a really big deal. one is plenty. most and i should stress it: MOST folks dont have any pubs after a year. some do. hardly anyone has first author pubs. you CAN write up a review if you want to. but a publication? what you recommend is pretty much like telling someone in an md/phd program to get a nature publication... yeah bro... just get it... you know...
IM is doable for an australian IMG with those scores. unlikely @ top hospitals but should be quite doable elsewhere... if you want to do research you can but because you are applying straight our of your school you dont really need it and you can squeeze in a couple of weeks/months of lab work if you can. with or without publications. just make sure you can get an LOR from whereever you do your research.
i heard though that australians tend to not do especially well when they get invited for interviews because no one understands them ...
jk
I respectfully disagree.. Too many people have been burnt following the UWSAs... UW doesn't make the actual test.. The NBME does and there are many papers proving the statistical accuracy of the NBME tests.. just google emHe probably expected the 245-250 that UW2 said would happen. It’s the best predictor historically.
I think anesthesia and IM are totally in reach if you’re not picky OP.
Yeah of course. UWSA1 was a 200 6 months out. UWSA2 was a 237 around a week out. Please don’t be worried! What happened to me is super rare. I’m sure you’ll do great! =]i just took my exam a few days ago and im worried about the same thing
do you mind sharing your uwsa1 and uwsa2 scores mine were 228 and 224
I respectfully disagree.. Too many people have been burnt following the UWSAs... UW doesn't make the actual test.. The NBME does and there are many papers proving the statistical accuracy of the NBME tests.. just google em
How about compared to UWSA1N=1, but I was within 2 points of my UWSA2; 269 to 267. My NBME were about 10 lower than my actual.
273 on UWSA 1How about compared to UWSA1
Is it true scores are released 3-4 Wednesdays after your date of exam?
273 on UWSA 1
Just started MS-II. Know the UFAPS method, havent started studying besides just regular courses taught in class.
1. How do I go about prepping for boards? Very general I know, but should I be watching Pathoma and reading first aid now?
2. People at my school keep telling me about boards and beyond, or DIT. Does anyone recommend these? Do I need them? If so, which one?
Thank you!
you are an md/phd student. or you are lying.Yes i do.. I have multiple first authored pubs.. Dunno why you think its impossible.. See that Indian guy on YT who got 15 or so first authored dermat papers in a year.. There are many good pointers in there.. I DONOT think it is tough to get them if you know how to "work the system" so to speak.. Sure..you aint gonna have 15 papers on something like finding a new gene involved in an esoteric disease.. But its totally doable to get a few pubs.. Dont ask me to give you a link to mine because i aint doxxing myself on SDN.. but IMHO its possible..
IMHO UWSA are meant to be taken BEFORE you start UW. Then they are a good predictor. IF you already did UW - then of course you will score more on UWSA knowing most of UW tricks and question style - and that will give you false sense of your readiness.He probably expected the 245-250 that UW2 said would happen. It’s the best predictor historically.
I only got an email around 11am saying my score is out...no email saying score will be released today...good luckDid anyone receive an email from NBME saying their score will be released today?
IMHO UWSA are meant to be taken BEFORE you start UW. Then they are a good predictor. IF you already did UW - then of course you will score more on UWSA knowing most of UW tricks and question style - and that will give you false sense of your readiness.
Fine dont believe me.. as if i care.. Also i said in the initial post that basic science lab type stuff may not be possible.. i mentioned finding a new gene for an esoteric disease may not be possible so fast..you are an md/phd student. or you are lying.
are you saying that one can "game the system" and get 15 papers - i dont mean reviews in a year? i have done research in 4 top 3 institutions. and i have yet to see anyone with multiple publications in the first year let alone first authorships. it takes a month to write up and contact the publishers just so that you know. you may get multiple pubs in your second year but 15 first author pubs? in a local eatery. yes.
there is no way you can "game the system" unless you just fake the data and work with your PI to fake the data.
for those that doubt me: think clearly. if a single person gets 15 pubs. then what about the rest of the lab? so each gets ... lets say just 10. so my lab, for example, has 10 people. so there are 150 publications coming out of my lab. do you guys realistically assume that any PI has time to work through 150 pubs in a year? that is 3 pubs a week. anyone heard of a PI with a resume that says he has published 150 publications a year as a last author? go google. most really good LABS are happy with 5-10 publications a YEAR. very few go above that. very few across the nation, i must add. do you know that with 2 first author nature pubs you are pretty much guaranteed an assistant prof position @ harvard?
i know guys who graduated md/phd with 1-3 first authorships and a couple 2nd/3rd high end journal authorships. they were not exceptions because everyone in the lab had that. MOST md/phds are happy with a couple. so dont bs. also, i want to stress: you get least results in the first year and wtf does "game the system" actually mean? a western blot is a western blot. you have either never seen one or expect positive results every time you run one if you think you can get multiple authorships, let alone in the first year and multiple first authorships are NEVER guaranteed.
if you want to prove me wrong just send a pubmed link with 10 people with multiple first authorships. and a lab link to show they did that in their first year. i doubt you will find 1-2 in the whole country. also, i am not saying this has never been done. but to clarify this all in the usmle-like terms, this is like "recommending" folks to get a 270+. so i have never heard of a single one but that is what a multiple first year first authorship would be equal to in the eyes of folks that i have met and who love research. a single paper in the first year (not a review), in my opinion is equivalent to a 265+ ie 99 %ile but i have never seen of or heard of a single person who started off without any research background and published a first author paper within 1 year of day 1. one paper? i think it is exceedingly rare but i would not preclude that from happening. that person sure needs lotsa luck on his side but that might be doable. multiple? BS big time.
too much weed is not good for you. dont spread BS.
sorry for my rambling but as i mentioned, this is my pet peeve and i just want to put this stupidity to rest.
UWSA 1 = 249
UWSA 2 = 243
Real Deal = 251
Really excited about this score! Felt pretty good after the exam...but was still a bit worried. Hope everyone gets the score they want! In terms of advice, I studied 6 weeks....2 full passes through FA, 1 full pass through UWorld and watched Pathoma around 3x. Hate to sound repetitive..but UFAP and you are almost guaranteed 240+. Things I regret...not starting earlier. Also..taking more practice exams...literally only did the two UW forms...have always been a good test taker, but doing some of the NBMEs probably could've got me a few more points. Either way..I had life issues happen before my dedicated period...and I only had so much time to try and master the material...I'll take my score and run with it. Good luck!
Fine dont believe me.. as if i care.. Also i said in the initial post that basic science lab type stuff may not be possible.. i mentioned finding a new gene for an esoteric disease may not be possible so fast..
Google "academic paper slicing" and click first result.. to know how to do this.. i.e. to game the system..There are MANY more ways.. to increase academic yield..
Dont believe me if you dont...as if i give a damn..keep ranting.. My ERAS will say > 30 first authored by the time i will apply..while you would have wasted time ranting instead of publishing..
Here's the video of the guy i referred to in my original post who got 15 in a year..
Also... you dont need to be in a lab to get a few papers.. There are many ways..
Also.. you keep saying First year...first year.. when did i say you can get it in first year of med school.. I was replying to a guy who finished 3rd year already... The goal aint to get X pubs a year..but to have the max possible come ERAS application submission day..
Life is all about ROI... use less time..get more pubs.. get a better residency...get ahead in the game.. You keep ranting at strangers online..and keep making fun of a stupid username i selected.. All it will do is make you more burnt out Lolz
sorry, missed this one.@BurnedOut Dr. Chase is Australian, that counts right?
UW2: 251
Real deal: 252.
Write up later after rotation today.
UW2: 251
Real deal: 252.
Write up later after rotation today.
The wait is starting to kill me. Took the test 7/22. Does anyone know when the permit link usually disappears?
Unfortunately not, just double checked. Permit link is still there too but it doesn't work. Hopefully scores get released this WednesdayYou sure your score isn’t released? I took mine 7/20 and got mine back already.
The wait is starting to kill me. Took the test 7/22. Does anyone know when the permit link usually disappears?
REAL DEAL on July 20: 252 (1 point higher than UWSA2)
solid, waiting on my score, is it usually that 3rd Wednesday that the scores come out?
UWSA 1 = 249
UWSA 2 = 243
Real Deal = 251
Really excited about this score! Felt pretty good after the exam...but was still a bit worried. Hope everyone gets the score they want! In terms of advice, I studied 6 weeks....2 full passes through FA, 1 full pass through UWorld and watched Pathoma around 3x. Hate to sound repetitive..but UFAP and you are almost guaranteed 240+. Things I regret...not starting earlier. Also..taking more practice exams...literally only did the two UW forms...have always been a good test taker, but doing some of the NBMEs probably could've got me a few more points. Either way..I had life issues happen before my dedicated period...and I only had so much time to try and master the material...I'll take my score and run with it. Good luck!
aiming for 250+ but i already know I made some silly mistakes
and i missed some easy ones
doubt i'll make it up there
any 250+ 'ers feel the same way after your exam ?
aiming for 250+ but i already know I made some silly mistakes
and i missed some easy ones
doubt i'll make it up there
any 250+ 'ers feel the same way after your exam ?
You should get yours this Wednesday.
I didn't think there was any way I would hit 250. I was counting up the mistakes.
Flagged around 5-6/block...immediately after the exam, I thought of 5-6 questions that I definitely missed. I still felt pretty good about the exam overall though...did you take the UW forms? How did you feel after those vs. your test? Your score will likely be out 8/22 at 11am...and saw your UW forms...If I were to guess, you will end up scoring 220-232.
Flagged around 5-6/block...immediately after the exam, I thought of 5-6 questions that I definitely missed. I still felt pretty good about the exam overall though...How did you feel after the UW forms vs. your test? Your score will likely be out 8/22 at 11am...and saw your UW forms...If I were to guess, you will end up scoring 220-232.
100% agreeLol nobody can tell how they made post exam. I mark half my questions on every test I ever took and it never correlated with score.
We are all poor predictors of our performance.
7/22? Test date ?Print permit link just disappeared
7/22? Test date ?