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New Orleansis that LSU Shreveport? or New Orleans?
New Orleansis that LSU Shreveport? or New Orleans?
Anyone have any thoughts on baylor houston gi program?
Hi Guys,
I'm applying to Gi this year for the first time. I graduated from IM residency in 2013. I have been working as a hospitalist for 3 years. I'm an MPH student and will get the degree in June 2017. USMLE scores (223,233), all first attempt. I applied to 160 programs. I don't need a visa. I have 3 case reports. I have 4 US letters (1 from my PD, 1 from dean of medical school at my residency program, 2 from GI private practice). By the way, I'm an IMG.
So far, no interviews. Any thing I should do different now? I would to hear any advice.
Thanks so much
Several red flags:Hi Guys,
I'm applying to Gi this year for the first time. I graduated from IM residency in 2013. I have been working as a hospitalist for 3 years. I'm an MPH student and will get the degree in June 2017. USMLE scores (223,233), all first attempt. I applied to 160 programs. I don't need a visa. I have 3 case reports. I have 4 US letters (1 from my PD, 1 from dean of medical school at my residency program, 2 from GI private practice). By the way, I'm an IMG.
So far, no interviews. Any thing I should do different now? I would to hear any advice.
Thanks so much
Scores matter a lot and GI fellowship PDs look at scores esp if you don't have connections in the program. They wanna know if we were a competitive candidate from medical school and some even check transcripts and MSPE.Hey Guys,
I am an AMG at a mid- tier university program - step 1 197 step 2 227
have pretty decent research with 3 projects - 1 with big name PI ; 3 poster presentations; 1 2nd author pub in red journal
good standing in university;; all gi mentors and residency mentors expected me to match well although they weren't that aware of my step scores
no interviews so far; is there any shot for me this year?
Hey Guys. I applied this year but no interviews yet which is extremely disappointing. I need some honest input what to do from this point on: My steps scores were 228, 236, 221. I am a PGY3at a good university sponsered community program(unfortunately no inhouse fellowships). I am visa requiring IMG. I had 13 poster presentations so far with 2 oral presentations and 3 publications, 3 accepted publications (including a review articvle as first author) and 1 retrosepctive study submitted at the time of application (Now accepted). I am currently working on another prospective study, a review article and a retrospective study.
My questions are:
With my visa status, program and USMLE scores, do I even have a chance for GI? ( I thought I would get some IVs but no interviews is again eye opening)
What can I do to improve my chances?? Should I opt for hepatology or just give up??
Several red flags:
1. 4 years out of graduation
2. Private practice
3. Very poor research productivity. case reports are not research. Esp with your MPH, ppl expect more research
4. Believe it or not, MPH hardly adds any value for fellowship application.
Its a frustrating place to be in to get no interviews. Same is everyone who is out of training for even 1 year(It even affects AMGs, worse for IMGs). If you are able to switch jobs, choose a hospital that has a mid to low tier GI program where u can work as hospitalist and work closely with GI dept there. Option 2 is to do GI hospitalist in a program that has in house fellowship where u are guaranteed next year position. Place like geisinger, bronx lebanon, peoria may be your places to go.
good luck
Loma Linda invites went out last weekTo add to that, has anybody heard from or know anybody who's heard from Fresno or Loma Linda?
practicelink. or jus individual program. it usually goes by word of mouth thoughThanks for the advice. Do you know where can I find a list of GI hospitalist positions?
certainly true. Knowing contacts can bypass every single requirement and get you the coveted spot. It depends on the power of your contact. but i would count very few percentage of spots filled through this(outside of in-house spots). This works great for in house spots where medicine PD/chair and GI PD discuss how many spots for in house and who are in house. Chief resident gets first shot followed by pgy 3 unless chief really sucks. unwritten rule.I really don't think scores, research and awards matters in choosing you. It all boils down to who your PD or Chief of Medicine know in the field of gastroenterology that will vouch for you. I have seen bad USMLE scores, no research that were able to get to a GI program.
Hey. So I am on J1 actually. Yes, I am in mid-tier program. I had posters on case reports, case series, acutal research, almost every thing.Are you on H1? Then you are in for what was in store. Programs are overwhelmed with applications and visa requiring candidates are last on their list of ppl who they wanna hire. You are fighting an uphill battle. With your scores, I suppose you are in a mid tier community program. Have ppl from your program regularly matched in GI in the yesteryears? You have decent posters but are they case reports or research?
Hepatology is an option but almost no programs gives H1 for hepatology. u have to take j1. it doesn't guarantee a spot next year. U have to keep working hard through PGY3 with more research, regardless of whether u take chief year or hepatology. What u do in pgy 3 is gonna be crucial
dude, u filled like half the interview invites on this list. I am surprised u are expecting to hear from the remaining halfThis has been such a slow and painful process. Each week we hope that it will finally be "the week" we start hearing from all the programs but evey week seems just as slow as the previous ones. It seems half of the programs have still not even reviewed apps yet.
Hey. So I am on J1 actually. Yes, I am in mid-tier program. I had posters on case reports, case series, acutal research, almost every thing.
Should I go for chief year or hepatology ??
I worked so hard in past 2 years to compete with people from university programs in terms of research hoping that some one would notice CV from a community program. But no IVs at all is so disappointing that I feel like it would be the same thing again next year
I have heard 2 stories of hepatology year 1. successfully matching into a fellowship 2. not matching despite hepatology year.
Honestly there is no right or wrong answer. If you can get into big name hepatology programs like seattle, Stanford, go for it. places like Carolinas, UMKC may or may not guarantee their in house spot for u. Plus u risk not having much advantage when u apply outside but u ll def fare better than this year.
chief year is helpful if u have in house fellowship. if not, in
I have heard 2 stories of hepatology year 1. successfully matching into a fellowship 2. not matching despite hepatology year.
Honestly there is no right or wrong answer. If you can get into big name hepatology programs like seattle, Stanford, go for it. places like Carolinas, UMKC may or may not guarantee their in house spot for u. Plus u risk not having much advantage when u apply outside but u ll def fare better than this year.
chief year is helpful if u have in house fellowship. if not, in a mid tier community program, it hardly impacts your overall application
That is true. Having hepatology back ground does not guarantee you of anything. My Chief of Medicine told me the same thing. If this was 5-10 years ago it will surely give you a spot but because this has been the trend for the past years of applicants who did not get matched, a lot of them are doing the same track. Even at Carolinas, they have hepatology and research hepatology tracks, the PD will still tell you that it will not guarantee you anything!
Same thing with being a Chief resident.
And really u ll apply 15 days into the hepatology year. u wont get any good letters from the place where u do the fellowship. What u do pgy 3 is gonna impact the chances
and we are talking about approximately 15 - 20 of these one year positions across the country. Just to give an idea. Traditionally these are not hard as fellowship application. 20 applicants per spotI agree it's a risky move, but a good Hepatology program will support you no matter what. They may not be able to give you letters 15 days into a new fellowship, but if you do a good job they will definitely make phone calls for you. Which I believe is actually better than getting LORs.
The debate between chief vs. Hep can go on and on. I don't think either is a wrong choice. In the end each person has different challenges to overcome. But I think if you don't have a GI program in your hospital, your chances become much better by doing Hep than chief.
Also, keep in mind there are other 1 year fellowships that you can pursue:
Women's GI at Brown University (1 year non-accredited without any formal application process)
IBD (though most programs require you do to GI first)
One third option is: Work as a hospitalist but get connected into a big name research program. And basically be a research monkey on your 7-day off cycle. This is riskier than other options, but still better than doing Hospitalist alone at a community hospital.
Again...Just my opinion. I could very well be incorrect in my analysis of the app cycle.
best of luck!
I would be cautious of hospitalist option. Scroll up posts from pages above in this forum and u ll see what ppl who graduated and doing hospitalist are saying. yes ppl have matched through this route but its incredibly hard to convince programs once u are out of training.I agree it's a risky move, but a good Hepatology program will support you no matter what. They may not be able to give you letters 15 days into a new fellowship, but if you do a good job they will definitely make phone calls for you. Which I believe is actually better than getting LORs.
The debate between chief vs. Hep can go on and on. I don't think either is a wrong choice. In the end each person has different challenges to overcome. But I think if you don't have a GI program in your hospital, your chances become much better by doing Hep than chief.
Also, keep in mind there are other 1 year fellowships that you can pursue:
Women's GI at Brown University (1 year non-accredited without any formal application process)
IBD (though most programs require you do to GI first)
One third option is: Work as a hospitalist but get connected into a big name research program. And basically be a research monkey on your 7-day off cycle. This is riskier than other options, but still better than doing Hospitalist alone at a community hospital.
Again...Just my opinion. I could very well be incorrect in my analysis of the app cycle.
best of luck!
This has been such a slow and painful process. Each week we hope that it will finally be "the week" we start hearing from all the programs but evey week seems just as slow as the previous ones. It seems half of the programs have still not even reviewed apps yet.
Contacts is the key. Any contact who can get u the spot directly or by phone calls.In the end it's all about luck and right timing and connections...
Does anyone know if programs still give out interviews in September? It has been silent for the last week, no interviews or rejections....
Is it over now?
looks like about 30-40% of interview spots are still for grabs. hang in thereDoes anyone know if programs still give out interviews in September? It has been silent for the last week, no interviews or rejections....
Is it over now?
looks like about 30-40% of interview spots are still for grabs. hang in there
perfectly understandable. and probably the right thing to do. good luckWell I can't cancel my less desirable interviews until these programs get back to me...
Does anyone know if programs still give out interviews in September? It has been silent for the last week, no interviews or rejections....
Is it over now?
just a word of caution, after I spoke to few of my friends and enquired about friends of friend's ivs to get an idea. What is evident is that this list is begging more contribution. This is not comprehensive at all. Ppl are more skeptical this year and so are refraining from posting it here.
Bottomline, cant go by this list to understand how many more programs are yet to send interviews. See cardiology forum and see their list. It looks much more comprehensive and from what my friends say, that list is more or less close to accurate.
If u have to make backup plans, this is the time.