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Does anyone know how full the class is so far? I'm waiting for my spring grades to come in so I can submit them to Georgetown.
When you are accepted into the program an email recommends you sign-up onto the yahoo SMP board in order to receive messages and updates from faculty and communicate with other SMP members. Currently there are 127 people registered in the SMP group. So, if the program traditionally accepts 180 atudents, then it is approximately 70% full.
i feel so sad... i just got my mcat score today
ps: 11
vr: 6
bs: 14
this is a retake (10, 6, 12 the 1st time). my practice averaged about an 8 on verbal, and even scored a 10 on a princeton test 2 days before...
should i retake?? i have a 3.7 gpa and am doing to smp for sure...
Why are you doing the SMP?
this is my second time applying. i NEED to get in this time around and am doing everything i can to make sure i get in... plus i've been out of school for 3 years. i need to get back into school. smp helps my apps and i get to go to school... i just makes sense...
i feel so sad... i just got my mcat score today
ps: 11
vr: 6
bs: 14
this is a retake (10, 6, 12 the 1st time). my practice averaged about an 8 on verbal, and even scored a 10 on a princeton test 2 days before...
should i retake?? i have a 3.7 gpa and am doing to smp for sure...
i feel so sad... i just got my mcat score today
ps: 11
vr: 6
bs: 14
this is a retake (10, 6, 12 the 1st time). my practice averaged about an 8 on verbal, and even scored a 10 on a princeton test 2 days before...
should i retake??
i have a 3.7 gpa and am doing to smp for sure...
this is my second time applying. i NEED to get in this time around and am doing everything i can to make sure i get in... plus i've been out of school for 3 years. i need to get back into school. smp helps my apps and i get to go to school... i just makes sense...
this is my second time applying. i NEED to get in this time around and am doing everything i can to make sure i get in... plus i've been out of school for 3 years. i need to get back into school. smp helps my apps and i get to go to school... i just makes sense...
My advice is that if you want to do more school to get back into the swing of things do another non SMP 1 year masters like USF Molecular Med or Med Micro and immuno MS program that are not that horrible like SMPs but still an MS which will allow you to learn science more.
horrible as in hard?
What did you do for MCAT prep? What's your writing sample score? Is English a second language?
How is the rest of your app? Are you very sure that your letters of recommendation are strong? Do you have interesting EC's? Did you have grumpy disapproving adult faculty give you feedback on your PS?
Again just to reiterate what everyone else is saying - don't do an SMP. I'm currently in the Georgetown SMP and I know a few people that have fairly high undergrad GPA's (~3.6/3.7) that have done OK in the program (~3.3-3.4). I think that's basically shooting yourself in the foot. I agree with DrJD - apply broadly and you shouldn't have too much of a problem.
Is it the CAM program? I'm not sure how this other program would be weighted. I think the SMP is risky but it is worth it because it is geared towards proving yourself to med schools.
Now if you get a much much higher score then 29R i.e. 35+ maybe we will be talking a different story altogether. But I'm not sure until I know how much higher your score will be.
so it would be like how USF has IMS as their SMP and Mol. Med as another 1 year MS? If that is the case and it is hard science courses and mostly lecture courses with exams and not a traditional MS where most of your classes are research then yes you may be able to get away with it rather then doing the SMP. .
I am also considering a one year masters (Columbia Biotech.) Ive been accepted to both types of programs and am trying to decide which will work more towards getting me into medical school. I learned that a typical Masters doesnt contribute to undergrad GPA, does not predict performance in med school because they are not a medical curriculum, are not necessarily looked on favorably by med schools and statistically dont stand up to the SMP in the numbers of students moving onto med school...in short, not worth it. But I am open to any argument for or against.
This is so interesting. I am a reapplicant, 3.4sciGPA, 3.55cumGPA from a top Ivy League, great LORs and unique leadership and extracurriculars. My MCATs are balanced 29R (2007) and 30R (2006). I will be taking the MCAT for the third and last time this July and submitting my AMCAS this summer.
I was accepted to, and submitted my deposit for, the Georgetown SMP. I also applied for another one-year MS science-based program at Georgetown (waiting to hear back now). If I get into the other MS program, would you agree that I should forgo the SMP because there is too much risk involved? I am leaning toward not doing the SMP at this point, mainly because I don't want to shoot myself in the foot.
If I were in your position, this is what I would do. If your MCAT comes back in July with a 33+, then I would forgo SMP's and just apply directly to medical schools. But otherwise, I think you are on the border of benefitting from an SMP and applying to medical schools outright. Although the Georgetown SMP is tough, with a lot of hard work you can get a ~3.6 GPA, so in your case, I don't think an SMP could hurt you.
I was wondering about the chances of getting into GTown SMP if waitlisted at Tufts. Does it stand to reason that a waitlist at Tufts will automatically lead to the same response if not worse at GTown?
I was wondering about the chances of getting into GTown SMP if waitlisted at Tufts. Does it stand to reason that a waitlist at Tufts will automatically lead to the same response if not worse at GTown?
Thanks for the tidbits. I guess my previous plan of studying 6 hrs minimum each day probably won't do wondersAs a former SMP, I can tell you a little about what's going on for you prospective/future smp students:
Hold on to your seats because this program will challenge you harder than anything else you've ever done. Don't get me wrong, this program is the best if your trying to get into med school, but it's no picnic. Be prepared to study for at least 5 hours a day .. bare minimum. Don't go into this as I did, thinking your gonna get straight A's, almost no one gets that, even the times where I hermited myself and studied 10hr/day (I got the A once or twice ... but even the top students dont maintain straight A's). In otherwords be prepared to put as much time as I previously mentioned to get B's,B+'s, and A-'s. In many ways this program is harder than med school (your taking 90% med school classes). Your applying while your studying, and you have the added stress of everyone around you getting in while your waiting. This program will challenge you not only academically in ways you've never experienced, but emotionally (as there is a lot of stress waiting your second time to get in). You got to have a tough skin to get through this program in one piece, and a hell of a motivation.
If you want to get into Georgetown's med program though the SMP feeder, do everything you can to befriend Dr. Mulroney, Myers, and Haramati. Whether or not you believe this or not, they have a large part in handpicking their student. I promise you this is a fact.
Good luck. Study hard, and you'll be entering med school at the end of the year, like me!
As a former SMP, I can tell you a little about what's going on for you prospective/future smp students:
Hold on to your seats because this program will challenge you harder than anything else you've ever done. Don't get me wrong, this program is the best if your trying to get into med school, but it's no picnic. Be prepared to study for at least 5 hours a day .. bare minimum. Don't go into this as I did, thinking your gonna get straight A's, almost no one gets that, even the times where I hermited myself and studied 10hr/day (I got the A once or twice ... but even the top students dont maintain straight A's). In otherwords be prepared to put as much time as I previously mentioned to get B's,B+'s, and A-'s. In many ways this program is harder than med school (your taking 90% med school classes). Your applying while your studying, and you have the added stress of everyone around you getting in while your waiting. This program will challenge you not only academically in ways you've never experienced, but emotionally (as there is a lot of stress waiting your second time to get in). You got to have a tough skin to get through this program in one piece, and a hell of a motivation.
If you want to get into Georgetown's med program though the SMP feeder, do everything you can to befriend Dr. Mulroney, Myers, and Haramati. Whether or not you believe this or not, they have a large part in handpicking their student. I promise you this is a fact.
Good luck. Study hard, and you'll be entering med school at the end of the year, like me!
How many students do they take for the SMP each year? Is there any info on how many of the smp students get interviews to the SOM?
They take about 180 students into the SMP, the interview roughly the top half of those students, and they accept between 20 and 28 students into the medical school... (All approximate, but close)
Thanks for the quick response! Do students get interviewed before getting into the smp?
I received an email this afternoon from Ms. Cabiness and got the old increased heartbeat for all of 15 seconds (having remembered that acceptances and waitlist offers are immediately sent an email, while rejections are snail mailed home). But instead I got this:
"Thank you for your interest in the Special Masters Program. Your application is complete and under review. We are currently migrating to a new computer system, please allow at least four weeks for a reply.
If I can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact my office.
Sincerely,
Aureller Cabiness
Academic Coordinator - SMP"
No! Tufts took 9 days from when I sent it in to when I heard back (Wednesday to following Friday). I realize that is extremely rare, but this is killing me!
I received an email this afternoon from Ms. Cabiness and got the old increased heartbeat for all of 15 seconds (having remembered that acceptances and waitlist offers are immediately sent an email, while rejections are snail mailed home). But instead I got this:
"Thank you for your interest in the Special Masters Program. Your application is complete and under review. We are currently migrating to a new computer system, please allow at least four weeks for a reply.
If I can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact my office.
Sincerely,
Aureller Cabiness
Academic Coordinator - SMP"
No! Tufts took 9 days from when I sent it in to when I heard back (Wednesday to following Friday). I realize that is extremely rare, but this is killing me!
I thought the same exact thing and emailed Ms. Cabiness about that. She said to use the list on the alumni link on the SMP website.
I'm also trying to figure out if we should talk about the SMP in our personal statement? That seems kinda weird since it should be obvious that we're doing it. I'm not really sure what to even say about it.
Do you think that it is important to rewrite your essays in full or just add a line or two in there that you are doing the SMp in the new year for your amcas and secondaries??? I really don't want to write new essays as I don't know how I can perfect them that much more.
What do y'all suggest for the AMCAS address? I have my home listed for now. Is it a huge hassle to change my address at all my schools once I get to Georgetown?
Yeah, but you get that odd paper secondary or interview notice.I plan on putting my home address on my AMCAS app for now and when I figure out housing for next year, I'll go to the post office and have all my mail fwded to DC. Most correspondence comes by email anyway.
What do y'all suggest for the AMCAS address? I have my home listed for now. Is it a huge hassle to change my address at all my schools once I get to Georgetown?
See that's what I was wondering; if it was a live update sort of situation or if the consequence of AMCAS address changes would take time to trickle down to the various admissions offices.Actually, its very easy to change your address - the schools will use whatever address is currently listed with AMCAS, so all you have to do is update your "preferred address" on AMCAS (which is basically the one thing you can change even after you submit the application).
See that's what I was wondering; if it was a live update sort of situation or if the consequence of AMCAS address changes would take time to trickle down to the various admissions offices.
Thanks for the info!
See that's what I was wondering; if it was a live update sort of situation or if the consequence of AMCAS address changes would take time to trickle down to the various admissions offices.
Thanks for the info!