The ultimate COVID thread

[nimbus]

New Jersey has now surpassed New York in deaths/million residents. In each of these states about 1/600 residents have died of COVID.

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

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[deleted697535]

Ye look fvcked...

 

[Monty Python]

Haven't heard from FFP in a while. Rare for him. I hope he's OK.

 

[coffeebythelake]

if steroids prove to be effective in reducing the covid deaths, does the number of cases still matter even when death rate goes very low if not near zero?

I dont think the study showed that steroids reduced the death rate very low

 

[Ezekiel2517]

I see a lot of people saying that much more younger people are getting infected right now. That's not really accurate. More younger people are getting tested right now bc they have access which is making the numbers of them who test positive go up, but the age demographics of Covid has not changed. This explains why the severe case demographics and death demographics have not changed. A data scientist made a twitter thread explaining this here. "If you measure the height of all people taller than 6 ft and have a median height of 6 ft 3 inches, and then change to measuring everyone's height, and your median changes to 5 ft 7 inches, does it mean your population suddenly got shorter? Pay attention"

 

[Lawpy]

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[Twiggidy]

This is pretty embarrassing

 

[deleted162650]

This is pretty embarrassing

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We’re #1, we’re #1!!!

USA, USA!!!!!!!

 

[Lawpy]

This is pretty embarrassing

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Death rate is more important. It'll be bad if that goes up

 

[Lawpy]

FDA to Require Proof Virus Vaccine Is Effective Before Approving Its Use

The agency outlined criteria for approving a Covid-19 vaccine, including that any such treatment be at least 50% more effective than a placebo in preventing the disease—a common benchmark for flu vaccines.

www.wsj.com

 

[Lawpy]

@pgg @vector2 @nimbus @chocomorsel @BLADEMDA etc thoughts?

Growing Number of Republicans Urge Mask Usage

A growing chorus of Republican officeholders and conservative media figures are calling for people to wear masks to prevent the spread of the coronavirus, with some urging President Trump to publicly wear one.

www.wsj.com

 

[Cath Up]

This is pretty embarrassing

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Fake news. Tell me the slope of the black line. Now tell me we haven't flattened the curve, just like Japan. I dare you

 

[Nobutyesbutno]

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Fake news. Tell me the slope of the black line. Now tell me we haven't flattened the curve, just like Japan. I dare you

Fake news is so depressing... why can't we go back to real news about accidently carpet bombing wedding parties in far off places and heartwarming stories about dogs and other family pets riding skateboards... that was proper news that was...

 

[Lawpy]

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Fake news. Tell me the slope of the black line. Now tell me we haven't flattened the curve, just like Japan. I dare you

why does the number of cases matter when the focus should be on death rate and hospital stay

 

[coffeebythelake]

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Fake news. Tell me the slope of the black line. Now tell me we haven't flattened the curve, just like Japan. I dare you

Are you serious?

 

[nimbus]

Vietnam has done very well despite its proximity to China and congested cities.

After aggressive mass testing, Vietnam says it contains coronavirus outbreak

Businessman Phan Quoc Viet was making his usual prayers at a pagoda in Tay Ninh, a province in southern Vietnam, when the government official's call came.

mobile.reuters.com

Vietnam COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Vietnam Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

 

[nimbus]

Unbelievable. Hawaii is one of the few states that has COVID relatively under control but their cases are rising. The US attorney/DOJ is trying to undermine their efforts to stay safe.

Department of Justice files Statement of Interest challenging the constitutionality of Hawaii Governor’s COVID-19 Order that effectively discriminates against out-of-state residents in a manner that harms Hawaii’s economy

www.justice.gov

 

[Cath Up]

Are you serious?

Of course not

 

[Cath Up]

why does the number of cases matter when the focus should be on death rate and hospital stay

I agree it's more reflective of actual burden but doesn't that lag weeks behind? Could lose time during which meaningful action could be taken.

 

[Lawpy]

I agree it's more reflective of actual burden but doesn't that lag weeks behind? Could lose time during which meaningful action could be taken.

Idk i may be optimistic here but i think hospitals are better prepared now that we know a lot more about covid and have treatments to offer. Could see steroids being really helpful here.

 

[nimbus]

Young people are throwing coronavirus parties with a payout when one gets infected, official says | CNN

Some young people in Alabama are throwing Covid-19 parties, a disturbing competition where people who have coronavirus attend and the first person to get infected receives a payout, local officials said.

www.cnn.com

 

[Lawpy]

Young people are throwing coronavirus parties with a payout when one gets infected, official says | CNN

Some young people in Alabama are throwing Covid-19 parties, a disturbing competition where people who have coronavirus attend and the first person to get infected receives a payout, local officials said.

www.cnn.com

The stupidity of young people is astounding nationwide and i say that as a millennial

 

[deleted162650]

Young people are throwing coronavirus parties with a payout when one gets infected, official says | CNN

Some young people in Alabama are throwing Covid-19 parties, a disturbing competition where people who have coronavirus attend and the first person to get infected receives a payout, local officials said.

www.cnn.com

 

[nimbus]

The stupidity of young people is astounding nationwide and i say that as a millennial

@Twiggidy is right, it’s embarrassing. Speaking of stupidity....

Oakland University fires man charged with assault after gun is pulled during parking lot argument

Oakland University said it has fired the man seen in social media videos this week where his wife pulled a gun on a mom and her daughter following an argument outside a Chipotle in Orion Township.

www.fox2detroit.com

 

[nimbus]

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Certain parts of earth are crazier than others.

 

[marr65]

@Twiggidy is right, it’s embarrassing. Speaking of stupidity....

Oakland University fires man charged with assault after gun is pulled during parking lot argument

Oakland University said it has fired the man seen in social media videos this week where his wife pulled a gun on a mom and her daughter following an argument outside a Chipotle in Orion Township.

www.fox2detroit.com

Dumb people and that includes the black daughter/mom too. No need to escalate a situation for being bumped. Idiots all around!

 

[nimbus]

Dumb people and that includes the black daughter/mom too. No need to escalate a situation for being bumped. Idiots all around!

100%

 

[Twiggidy]

Dumb people and that includes the black daughter/mom too. No need to escalate a situation for being bumped. Idiots all around!

Everyone (and I mean EVERYONE) is so bloody riled up in this country I swear everyone needs a bottle of Valium just sent to their homes. Most of this country just needs to sleep 2020 off and try again in 2021

 

[Lawpy]

Hospitals Struggle to Contain Covid-19 Spread Inside Their Walls

U.S. medical centers have reported 5,000-plus cases of patients likely catching the coronavirus once admitted for other conditions, a problem that’s adding to the strain of the pandemic itself. At one facility, four staff members died.

www.wsj.com

 

[Lawpy]

WSJ News Exclusive | New York Nurses Union Files Labor Charges, Seeking Coronavirus Data on Hospital Staff

The New York State Nurses Association is pressing several hospital systems for information on how many staff members were infected with the new coronavirus.

www.wsj.com

 

[anbuitachi]

would not be surprised if death rate goes up soon. death usually lags case rise by couple weeks or so.

and i dont think we should 'only' look at death. theres more to a disease than just living vs dying. some people are having severe complications due to covid but not dying.

 

[Lawpy]

would not be surprised if death rate goes up soon. death usually lags case rise by couple weeks or so.

and i dont think we should 'only' look at death. theres more to a disease than just living vs dying. some people are having severe complications due to covid but not dying.

Death rate and hospitalizations? Why would cases matter if people get infected but recover without going to the hospital?

 

[anbuitachi]

Death rate and hospitalizations? Why would cases matter if people get infected but recover without going to the hospital?

im saying we shouldnt look at just cases or deaths. we need to look at them together.

 

[Lawpy]

im saying we shouldnt look at just cases or deaths. we need to look at them together.

No i understand. But there are dashboards tracking hospitalizations. So why is tracking cases important when hospitalizations can track hospital capacity better?

 

[anbuitachi]

No i understand. But there are dashboards tracking hospitalizations. So why is tracking cases important when hospitalizations can track hospital capacity better?

its important because it tells you how many cases there are in the public and how widespread the disease is. so my neighbors 95 yr old grandma can be more cautious going on the subway when there are 10000 cases a day in the state, despite only 50 deaths

 

[Lawpy]

Gilead Says Remdesivir Linked to a Reduction in Mortality Risk

Gilead Sciences Inc.’s remdesivir may help severely ill Covid-19 patients survive the deadly infection, according to a comparison of the company’s clinical-trial results to a real-world group of people battling the disease.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[deleted59964]

must be tempting for trump and his insiders to time the market when they know he's got covid
i suppose that's insider trading though right?

 

[nimbus]

Amazon said nearly 20,000 workers got coronavirus

Amazon said Thursday that 19,816 of its front-line US employees at Amazon and Whole Foods have tested positive or been presumed positive for the coronavirus, shedding light for the first time on how its workforce has been impacted by Covid-19.

amp.cnn.com

 

[nimbus]

My Predictions:

1. Immunoglobulin treatment available by June. This will decrease the ICU admissions by 50% or more. Death rates will plummet.
2. Antiviral therapy- This is a longer shot but likely 1-2 antivirals will show some effectiveness against Wuhan Virus
3. Combine 1 and 2 leads to a death rate under 15,000 for the USA by the Fall
4. Vaccine will be ready for phase 2 testing by late Fall. By December/Jan a viable vaccine will be in production.
5. By April 01, 2021 the S and P 500 will be back to 2800 and the crisis will have ended.

I know many of you think the world has ended. This is how it felt in December of 2008 when the entire country was in melt down mode. December 2008 wasn't the "low" and neither is the current s and p of 2300. The stock market will go lower probably in the 1800-2000 range. I predict for those that buy near the low profits will be in the 50% range by April 2021.

You're VERY optimistic, I will quote this in a few months.

@dchz gets the W.

Making predictions about COVID and the market is a fool’s errand.

 

[Lawpy]

@dchz gets the W.

Making predictions about COVID and the market is a fool’s errand.

Prediction: covid 19 and markets will continue to be chaotic

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

@dchz gets the W.

Making predictions about COVID and the market is a fool’s errand.

We do have several vaccines in Phase 3 trials at least

 

[dchz]

@dchz gets the W.

Making predictions about COVID and the market is a fool’s errand.

Well he was right about the s&p. That's really all that matters!!

Also I love how he built in an April fool's joke in there.

 

[Lawpy]

Man can we please elect Biden and Democrats to a landslide win in presidency and Congress?

Trump Sends Mixed Messages Over Covid-19 Stimulus

President Trump pulled the plug on ongoing bipartisan coronavirus relief talks in an abrupt move that jolted Wall Street and surprised lawmakers of both parties, but hours later called on Congress to approve a bill providing another direct check to many Americans.

www.wsj.com

 

[Lawpy]

I get the Trump bashing in the forum but i'm so mentally past Trump presidency that i just want the next administration and Congress to take over immediately. The rest of 2020 is a complete, slow, frustrating, lameduck months

 

[Lawpy]

 

[nimbus]

Letter to Robert Redfield from William Foege.

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[Lawpy]

@nimbus @vector2 @BLADEMDA @Twiggidy @AMEHigh and everyone reading this thoughts pls:

As Covid Cases Surge, More Public-Health Experts Say Lockdowns Aren’t the Answer

With case counts elevated across large parts of Europe and the U.S., officials are reluctant to force another round of nationwide lockdowns of the sort imposed in March. But this time—unlike in the spring—public-health experts broadly and increasingly agree.

www.wsj.com

 

[Twiggidy]

@nimbus @vector2 @BLADEMDA @Twiggidy @AMEHigh and everyone reading this thoughts pls:

As Covid Cases Surge, More Public-Health Experts Say Lockdowns Aren’t the Answer

With case counts elevated across large parts of Europe and the U.S., officials are reluctant to force another round of nationwide lockdowns of the sort imposed in March. But this time—unlike in the spring—public-health experts broadly and increasingly agree.

www.wsj.com

I don’t have a WSJ subscription so I can’t read the article but from the first couple of paragraphs I gather it’s more of an indictment on the general public’s refusal to instructions (ie anti-maskers/secret raves/etc) rather than an indictment on lockdowns
I’m not in favor or looking forward to another lockdown but it seems inevitable, either that or we’re going to have a whirlwind of cases coming this fall/winter.

we already don’t plan on spending Thanksgiving together as a family and it’s pretty sad

 

[Lawpy]

I don’t have a WSJ subscription so I can’t read the article but from the first couple of paragraphs I gather it’s more of an indictment on the general public’s refusal to instructions (ie anti-maskers/secret raves/etc) rather than an indictment on lockdowns
I’m not in favor or looking forward to another lockdown but it seems inevitable, either that or we’re going to have a whirlwind of cases coming this fall/winter.

we already don’t plan on spending Thanksgiving together as a family and it’s pretty sad

Here's another link i found: Covid 19 coronavirus: World Health Organisation doctor backflips on virus lockdowns: Don't use them as a 'primary control' - NZ Herald

We have a lot better treatments and testing capabilities though? And flu shots are widely popular now to avoid additional problems

 

[Twiggidy]

Here's another link i found: Covid 19 coronavirus: World Health Organisation doctor backflips on virus lockdowns: Don't use them as a 'primary control' - NZ Herald

We have a lot better treatments and testing capabilities though? And flu shots are widely popular now to avoid additional problems

The big difference is lack of vaccine to COVID which just increases the risk to a potentially deadlier virus (death rate 0.1% vs 1%) I think this year’s flu will probably be one of the mildest flu season because A) people aren’t traveling / gathering (word has it that the Southern hemisphere had one of the lowest flu seasons to date) B) Everyone will be more likely to get a flu shot

While I don’t think the lockdown will be extreme as last winter, I’m not sure if indoor gatherings will be returning this winter. Until we have an effective vaccine I’m not sure what the answer should be, but COVID-19 isn’t the ’common cold’, which people will also still contract this winter.

Masking, Hand hygiene, and social distancing.....that’s the best we can do for now