Parents unhappy with my specialty choice. Wat do?

[DermViser]

Well yeah, then we could count gold doubloons in our massive mansion in Greenwich. Or maybe inside one of our four ferraris.

(Totally kidding. If I bugged him to do something he wasn't happy doing, it would make for one very miserable Kaus. I'm glad he found something he loves.......

AS LONG AS I DONT HAVE TO EVER WAKE AT 4AM TOO!)

Greenwich, CT is an awesome place to live. Their hospital, Greenwich Hospital (a community hospital affiliated with Yale) for IM is ridiculous (I don't think they have a Surgery residency). Completely rent-free housing for categoricals and subsidized rent for prelims, and it's actual nice housing. I can't imagine how it is just treating rich people though. I'm sure they're more clingy.

You could move to Greenwich after he's done. lol

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[fancymylotus]

Greenwich, CT is an awesome place to live. Their hospital, Greenwich Hospital (a community hospital affiliated with Yale) for IM is ridiculous (I don't think they have a Surgery residency). Completely rent-free housing for categoricals and subsidized rent for prelims, and it's actual nice housing. I can't imagine how it is just treating rich people though. I'm sure they're more clingy.

You could move to Greenwich after he's done. lol

Yeah. We both <3 CT. Greenwich is in the general area of where I grew up

 

[DermViser]

Yeah. We both <3 CT. Greenwich is in the general area of where I grew up

Ah, so then that explains your highly refined, and exquisite tastes. Quite a few famous and well-to do from there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_from_Greenwich,_Connecticut.

It's so funny in different states, seeing the different pockets of cities and their such different demographics in terms of income.

 

[fancymylotus]

Proximity to NE or not, I still deeply hate all NE sports teams
i e the pats vs gang green tnf right now

 

[RJGOP]

Greenwich, CT is an awesome place to live. Their hospital, Greenwich Hospital (a community hospital affiliated with Yale) for IM is ridiculous (I don't think they have a Surgery residency). Completely rent-free housing for categoricals and subsidized rent for prelims, and it's actual nice housing. I can't imagine how it is just treating rich people though. I'm sure they're more clingy.

You could move to Greenwich after he's done. lol

Yup. That's were my uncle lives. I used to love going there every year as a little guy. I once got lost in his house.

 

[fancymylotus]

Yup. That's were my uncle lives. I used to love going there every year as a little guy. I once got lost in his house.

The 20 mil Greenwich house equivalent in the "nice" suburbs of Indy is like 1.5

commence tears

 

[DermViser]

Yup. That's were my uncle lives. I used to love going there every year as a little guy. I once got lost in his house.

Nice! Yes the houses there are exquisite.

 

[general admission]

Yup. That's were my uncle lives. I used to love going there every year as a little guy. I once got lost in his house.

To get back on topic, does he do IM? Does he think attaining that kind of house would be possible for one who does IM?

 

[RJGOP]

To get back on topic, does he do IM? Does he think attaining that kind of house would be possible for one who does IM?

No. He was a stock market whiz. You can make good money in IM and live in a nice house in Greenwich, but typically those who live there are not docs.

 

[fancymylotus]

No. He was a stock market whiz. You can make good money in IM and live in a nice house in Greenwich, but typically those who live there are not docs.

Don't say that! Killing my dreams

 

[notbobtrustme]

ah Connecticut, the only state where being a 4th generation Irish Catholic is too ethnic for the neighborhood.

 

[DermViser]

No. He was a stock market whiz. You can make good money in IM and live in a nice house in Greenwich, but typically those who live there are not docs.

Sad when even the average IM doc at Greenwich Hospital can't afford to live in Greenwich.

 

[DermViser]

To get back on topic, does he do IM? Does he think attaining that kind of house would be possible for one who does IM?

Just so we are all on the same page, is your goal to do IM and then become a subspecialist or just do General IM only?

 

[fancymylotus]

There are lots of brown people in Greenwich
Hurray, I have a chance

 

[DermViser]

There are lots of brown people in Greenwich
Hurray, I have a chance

All 5.18% of them.

 

[fancymylotus]

All 5.18% of them.

Killjoy ><

I was at brunch in Greenwich a few days ago. Sigh. I love that place

 

[DermViser]

Killjoy ><

I was at brunch in Greenwich a few days ago. Sigh. I love that place

I like looking at the homes: http://www.google.com/search?q=gree...a=X&ei=8wVBVL75Cajm8QHb7oD4Dg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg

 

[fancymylotus]

Our anesthesiologist lives in Greenwich
He is a pompous POS and I hate working with him, so I try to dodge cases that he's involved in as much as possible

All he talks about is how wonderful his anesthesiologist life is

eye roll, shut up.

 

[DermViser]

Our anesthesiologist lives in Greenwich
He is a pompous POS and I hate working with him, so I try to dodge cases that he's involved in as much as possible

All he talks about is how wonderful his anesthesiologist life is

eye roll, shut up.

That's so funny bc you hear the exact opposite in the Anesthesiology forum. Of course the one in Greenwich might be a much older physician, who has squeezed the juice out of the orange and was able to do quite well on the system as it was, Golden Age of Medicine and all.

 

[jdh71]

That's so funny bc you hear the exact opposite in the Anesthesiology forum. Of course the one in Greenwich might be a much older physician, who has squeezed the juice out of the orange and was able to do quite well on the system as it was, Golden Age of Medicine and all.

DENTAL anesthesia isn't the same beast as the OR work that anesthesiologists do.

I have a friend that finished dental
Anesthesia residency, two year program after a four year dds and the guy is KILLING IT. He made 7 and half large large last year sedating dental patients. He has no clinic. No overhead other than his drugs. He works as a mercenary for local clinics. No nights or weekend ever of course.

Dental anesthesia. The REAL best specialty that all of you derm, radiology, and ophthal people actually want but can't get into because you need a dds or dmd

Cue the muted trombones!!

Wah, wah, wah, waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!

Haha

Lawl

Owned

 

[DermViser]

DENTAL anesthesia isn't the same beast as the OR work that anesthesiologists do.

I have a friend that finished dental
Anesthesia residency, two year program after a four year dds and the guy is KILLING IT. He made 7 and half large large last year sedating dental patients. He has no clinic. No overhead other than his drugs. He works as a mercenary for local clinics. No nights or weekend ever of course.

Dental anesthesia. The REAL best specialty that all of you derm, radiology, and ophthal people actually want but can't get into because you need a dds or dmd

Cue the muted trombones!!

Wah, wah, wah, waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!

Haha

Lawl

Owned

Yup, not trolling at all.

 

[Priapism4tooLong]

DENTAL anesthesia isn't the same beast as the OR work that anesthesiologists do.

I have a friend that finished dental
Anesthesia residency, two year program after a four year dds and the guy is KILLING IT. He made 7 and half large large last year sedating dental patients. He has no clinic. No overhead other than his drugs. He works as a mercenary for local clinics. No nights or weekend ever of course.

Dental anesthesia. The REAL best specialty that all of you derm, radiology, and ophthal people actually want but can't get into because you need a dds or dmd

Cue the muted trombones!!

Wah, wah, wah, waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!

Haha

Lawl

Owned

700K?! That is some serious baby daddy type money

 

[fancymylotus]

teeth $$$$$$$$$$$

 

[DermViser]

teeth $$$$$$$$$$$

How did Dentistry manage to bypass managed care so effectively?

 

[fancymylotus]

How did Dentistry manage to bypass managed care so effectively?

dunno
looks like nobamacare is coming for us though

 

[DermViser]

dunno
looks like nobamacare is coming for us though

How?

 

[fancymylotus]

How?

nobamacare dental plans! like YAY!

good thing that a lot of the more $$$$ procedures still aren't covered by even the "better" instances. hence teeth = $$$$$$$

also, people tend to put off going to the dentist so a 500$ problem mostly covered by ins morphs into a 5000$ problem mostly NOT covered by ins

NMP

 

[DermViser]

nobamacare dental plans! like YAY!

good thing that a lot of the more $$$$ procedures still aren't covered by even the "better" instances. hence teeth = $$$$$$$

also, people tend to put off going to the dentist so a 500$ problem mostly covered by ins morphs into a 5000$ problem mostly NOT covered by ins

NMP

I thought that was just for children?

 

[DermViser]

nobamacare dental plans! like YAY!

good thing that a lot of the more $$$$ procedures still aren't covered by even the "better" instances. hence teeth = $$$$$$$

also, people tend to put off going to the dentist so a 500$ problem mostly covered by ins morphs into a 5000$ problem mostly NOT covered by ins

NMP

Or people just pull out their teeth with pliers.

 

[fancymylotus]

sounds like a good plan

try that and let me know how it turns out

 

[fancymylotus]

so the anesthesiologist just came to sedate this patient. i had to take 8 teeth out, and give her some dentures. took me like 30 mins, total anesthesia time from start to finish with setup and consents and stuff was maybe...an hour on the generous end. we pay him 2000$

so yeah, hes doing well for himself

 

[DermViser]

so the anesthesiologist just came to sedate this patient. i had to take 8 teeth out, and give her some dentures. took me like 30 mins, total anesthesia time from start to finish with setup and consents and stuff was maybe...an hour on the generous end. we pay him 2000$

so yeah, hes doing well for himself

Why can't u do it?

 

[fancymylotus]

Why can't u do it?

the short answer is that dad doesnt want me to

the long answer is that the other docs do a lot of really complicated involved cases and its better to have an actual anesthesiologist person around vs like me sedating patients after doing some sort of CE certification bs. i also dont want that responsibility on my head. we pay him a lot but for the stuff he comes and does for us, we make it back times a lot more. our omfs guy can sedate pts too. i just dont want to get involved in that stuff.

 

[jdh71]

Why can't u do it?

The bottom line? Professional liability. No one cares as long as thing go well but when things don't if you could have used a specialist, one was available, it wasn't an emergency, and you did it anyway? That's a recipe for giving lots of money to lawyers and plaintiffs if something went wrong.

As usual blame the lawyers!!!

But it's probably better for patients too. And they come "first" . . . Right? Lol.

 

[DermViser]

The bottom line? Professional liability. No one cares as long as thing go well but when things don't if you could have used a specialist, one was available, it wasn't an emergency, and you did it anyway? That's a recipe for giving lots of money to lawyers and plaintiffs if something went wrong.

As usual blame the lawyers!!!

But it's probably better for patients too. And they come "first" . . . Right? Lol.

I must say your avatar fits your personality well. lol.

 

[fancymylotus]

The bottom line? Professional liability. No one cares as long as thing go well but when things don't if you could have used a specialist, one was available, it wasn't an emergency, and you did it anyway? That's a recipe for giving lots of money to lawyers and plaintiffs if something went wrong.

As usual blame the lawyers!!!

But it's probably better for patients too. And they come "first" . . . Right? Lol.

Yeah. This. Like I said, general/basic dentistry, we do very little of, as everyone else that works for us is a specialist. So, its just better practice to have an anesthesiologist around.

 

[DermViser]

Yeah. This. Like I said, general/basic dentistry, we do very little of, as everyone else that works for us is a specialist. So, its just better practice to have an anesthesiologist around.

Wait, are you a general dentist or a specialist dentist?

 

[fancymylotus]

Wait, are you a general dentist or a specialist dentist?

The former. The only one in our group.

 

[DermViser]

The former. The only one in our group.

Oh! No wonder your dad works you so hard. He's the specialist dentist I'm assuming.

 

[fancymylotus]

Oh! No wonder your dad works you so hard. He's the specialist dentist I'm assuming.

One of the 10, yeah

 

[DermViser]

One of the 10, yeah

Ah, so you keep the customers all w/in the system. Smart!

 

[fancymylotus]

Ah, so you keep the customers all w/in the system. Smart!

Yup, and we have a bunch of hosp affiliations between us so we can take people to the OR if needed
No referring out necessary

 

[MOHS_01]

DENTAL anesthesia isn't the same beast as the OR work that anesthesiologists do.

I have a friend that finished dental
Anesthesia residency, two year program after a four year dds and the guy is KILLING IT. He made 7 and half large large last year sedating dental patients. He has no clinic. No overhead other than his drugs. He works as a mercenary for local clinics. No nights or weekend ever of course.

Dental anesthesia. The REAL best specialty that all of you derm, radiology, and ophthal people actually want but can't get into because you need a dds or dmd

Cue the muted trombones!!

Wah, wah, wah, waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!

Haha

Lawl

Owned

$750k, huh? What does he do Aug-Dec? Heh

 

[jdh71]

$750k, huh? What does he do Aug-Dec? Heh

It's apparently nice scratch.

 

[fancymylotus]

$750k, huh? What does he do Aug-Dec? Heh

I jeal of your mohs monies ><

 

[Southplains]

I jeal of your mohs monies ><

I'd be very interested in ending up in NY after school, would you consider hiring an MD without board cert as a hygienist? I'll work for only a small slice of your father's dental practice pie, and I can be very sarcastic and snarky while working, which you've said you like in people!

I jeal of your teeth money.

 

[DermViser]

I jeal of your mohs monies ><

Mohs and Procedural Derm is pretty cool.

 

[fancymylotus]

Mohs and Procedural Derm is pretty cool.

Greenwich $$

 

[DermViser]

Greenwich $$

The Princess of Greenwich. lol.

 

[jdh71]

Greenwich $$

Yeah but then you'd have to actually live in Greenwich.