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black and white/all or nothing thinking at its bestMy memory already sucks though lol.
black and white/all or nothing thinking at its bestMy memory already sucks though lol.
alcohol is neurotoxic bro. you're gonna run out of b1 and then get wernicke-korsakoff and your memory is going to suck
My memory already sucks though lol.
black and white/all or nothing thinking at its best
I'm not sure I understand...
That's the effects of neurotoxicity, brah.
I'm joking, of course. The world would be a better place if we all took a Scotch (notice the singular) every evening.
LOL
Ark, you're a funny guy but you need to get off the internet and not compare yourself with other people. Root cause of all your worries IMO.
Just be a man and grow a pair. You are worried about something new everyday.
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It's not so much that I'm comparing myself with other people, it's more that I'm just worried I fked up that exam even though I don't think I did. Also I'm just at a loss as to what more I can do. I mean, I'm studying regularly and keeping up, supplementing my work with Firecracker and First Aid, asking for help, and this is all I get for it?
Yes, but are you being efficient with your time?
Not enough, I suppose. But I don't have access to amphetamine or methylphenidate, so how can I improve on this?
Break down your study methods, and maybe we can help you?
What I do now:
Watch lectures at 2x speed
Review and make outlines of lectures, sometimes rewatching parts
Review notes
On the weekends, review the lectures (or just drink myself into a stupor)
What I plan to do in the future:
Watch lectures at 2x speed
Review and make outlines
Do Firecracker questions and ish
On Saturday, make more condensed outlines of the stuff I've done
On Sunday, quizzing and review
And drink myself into a stupor, of course.
Oh, and I finished the class with an 80%. Not the best, but I'm surviving.
I think I found your problem.
All right, I'll lay off the booze until M4.
What I do now:
Watch lectures at 2x speed
Review and make outlines of lectures, sometimes rewatching parts
Review notes
On the weekends, review the lectures (or just drink myself into a stupor)
What I plan to do in the future:
Watch lectures at 2x speed
Review and make outlines
Do Firecracker questions and ish
On Saturday, make more condensed outlines of the stuff I've done
On Sunday, quizzing and review
And drink myself into a stupor, of course.
Oh, and I finished the class with an 80%. Not the best, but I'm surviving.
This post will be long, so sorry. I just wanted to give you as much information as possible to help you out.
Studying is a technical skill. Remember that. Thus, it can be improved on, measured, what have you. To get the most out of one's study sessions, think of this equation: work accomplished = time spent x intensity of focus. So, replace low-intensity sessions with high-intensity sessions. Meaning, do not just simply review over notes, read the textbook w/o taking notes, (low-intensity), but develop practice and insight (high-intensity) with the information you're given. High-intensity sessions reap more results quickly than low-intensity sessions, so one can spend a much shorter amount of studying with high-intensity sessions that are broken up into smaller segments throughout the day/week once it becomes a habit, making one's learning process much more efficient and effective.
With the current plan you have, you definitely touched upon the 3 stages of studying that I see studying consists of: Coverage, Practice, Insight. Coverage is covering the material, through lectures, reading textbook, writing notes, or getting tutoring. Practice is testing yourself on the material, providing feedback on what you've learned and making you better understand the concepts through a problem-solving mindset. Insight is knowing the concepts to the point one can teach them back to someone, and insight is also the phase where one fixes any flaws, confusion, and kinks he/she/ze have in what they're learning.
Oh, you still hadn't figured out that 20 minutes of intensive studying is better than 2 hours of passively flipping pages? Cute.Wow, there's a lot of good advice here.
The final unit of our year has started, and I'll definitely try to implement what you've covered.
Oh, you still hadn't figured out that 20 minutes of intensive studying is better than 2 hours of passively flipping pages? Cute.
Dude, you have really got to nail down how to study most efficiently while you're still a MS1. If you don't have this nailed down by the start of M2, you are not going to have a good time.
MS-1 is over, and I'm already not having a good time haha.. And if I had nailed down how to study effectively, we wouldn't be having this conversation lol. If I haven't figured it out by now, I don't think I ever will.
But that's ok. Because I don't need to get into PRS or ENT, I just want to get by, do my time, and get out alive.
Some people have told me that I should consider dropping out of medical school now, and that if I'm not a good student now, I will not pass STEP1 with a good enough score to match into a residency. Perhaps they are right. But I'm good at surviving life. I think I'll survive this too.
MS-1 is over, and I'm already not having a good time haha.. And if I had nailed down how to study effectively, we wouldn't be having this conversation lol. If I haven't figured it out by now, I don't think I ever will.
But that's ok. Because I don't need to get into PRS or ENT, I just want to get by, do my time, and get out alive.
Yeah, that's the spirit.
Look, I don't like this, but optimism hasn't exactly been working wonders for me so far.
Unless you are failing classes and remediating every block, I wouldn't worry too much about being able to pass boards. Especially if you ended up pulling an 80 in neuro anatomy, that is fine, that is a B in a tough class. I definitely wouldn't quit unless I was actually failing classes. In the meantime just keep positive and try to improve a little/tweak your study habits a little each block, and I think you will be fine as long as the effort is there.MS-1 is over, and I'm already not having a good time haha.. And if I had nailed down how to study effectively, we wouldn't be having this conversation lol. If I haven't figured it out by now, I don't think I ever will.
But that's ok. Because I don't need to get into PRS or ENT, I just want to get by, do my time, and get out alive.
Some people have told me that I should consider dropping out of medical school now, and that if I'm not a good student now, I will not pass STEP1 with a good enough score to match into a residency. Perhaps they are right. But I'm good at surviving life. I think I'll survive this too.
Unless you are failing classes and remediating every block, I wouldn't worry too much about being able to pass boards. Especially if you ended up pulling an 80 in neuro anatomy, that is fine, that is a B in a tough class. I definitely wouldn't quit unless I was actually failing classes. In the meantime just keep positive and try to improve a little/tweak your study habits a little each block, and I think you will be fine as long as the effort is there.
That's a pretty rough policy, but still, if you have scored about average ever since you failed that one class and pulled a B in neuro anatomy it sounds like you figured something out. Some people say second year is harder, but some people also say it's easier. I really think it just depends on the school and each individual person. For instance, some people have a very extensive science background and first year is fairly easy for them because they have already had most of the classes. These people would likely say that 2nd year is much harder, while people with just the minimum pre-med classes would likely have a very rough first year and think 2nd year is easier.If you fail 2 classes at our school they make you repeat the year, if you fail any more they expel you I think haha.
That's a pretty rough policy, but still, if you have scored about average ever since you failed that one class and pulled a B in neuro anatomy it sounds like you figured something out. Some people say second year is harder, but some people also say it's easier. I really think it just depends on the school and each individual person. For instance, some people have a very extensive science background and first year is fairly easy for them because they have already had most of the classes. These people would likely say that 2nd year is much harder, while people with just the minimum pre-med classes would likely have a very rough first year and think 2nd year is easier.
You have to remember that most of your class probably has a fairly extensive science background. What did your Tudor major in, if you happen to know?My tutor (sigh, she will know who I am if she SDNs) says that second year is significantly easier for her, but she's a woman with opinions quite different from the rest of the class.
I was a liberal arts major who did the minimum premed classes, FWIW. I don't blame my college background for my performance (I know that people in the HuMed program at Sinai do just fine), I loved college and what I studied. But I must admit, I think that I may have been at a disadvantage in Neuroscience compared to a Neuroscience major (though I pity the poor souls who majored in such a horrible subject).
You have to remember that most of your class probably has a fairly extensive science background. What did your Tutor major in, if you happen to know?
I don't think that all non science majors have a hard time, but it seems like some do. I also don't have any data to support that claim, just an observation. However, everyone is on a fairly even playing field in year two, since most people haven't had those classes. Also, medical schools seem to like diversity, so that may be why they don't mind taking non science majors even of they might struggle a little more on average.I forgot, but IIRC it was in some science thing like Neuroscience or Physiology.
But I don't get it, if med schools know that liberal arts majors are herpaderps, why do they bother admitting us? Wouldn't they know otherwise by now? I think the problem is more with me and not my major.
1. There was zero percent hateration in that post. That's me stressing something that you don't seem to have picked up. For your benefit. Learn 70% of your material perfectly. Work on the rest later. Don't gloss over 100% and get almost nothing. That's my suggestion. When someone asks something you know, you should damn well know it. When they ask something you haven't done, mark it down as something that needs to be pursued or understood better.Looks like y'all been sippin on dat dere haterade.
Here's the thing. Quizzing yourself is hard enough. But it's not nearly as hard as figuring out the things to quiz yourself on. You quiz yourself on things that you think are important, only to find out that you guessed wrong on what was high yield, and in the professor's eyes you didn't study at all. That's when you start passively reviewing your notes, because at least then you're casting the net wider, and you might come across things the professor deems is important.
That's a pretty rough policy, but still, if you have scored about average ever since you failed that one class and pulled a B in neuro anatomy it sounds like you figured something out. Some people say second year is harder, but some people also say it's easier. I really think it just depends on the school and each individual person. For instance, some people have a very extensive science background and first year is fairly easy for them because they have already had most of the classes. These people would likely say that 2nd year is much harder, while people with just the minimum pre-med classes would likely have a very rough first year and think 2nd year is easier.
MS-1 is over, and I'm already not having a good time haha.. And if I had nailed down how to study effectively, we wouldn't be having this conversation lol. If I haven't figured it out by now, I don't think I ever will.
But that's ok. Because I don't need to get into PRS or ENT, I just want to get by, do my time, and get out alive.
Some people have told me that I should consider dropping out of medical school now, and that if I'm not a good student now, I will not pass STEP1 with a good enough score to match into a residency. Perhaps they are right. But I'm good at surviving life. I think I'll survive this too.
Got an 80% in Cardio so far, bringing up the rear of the class, but y'all know my motto: if you ain't living on the edge, you ain't living.
An 80% is bottom of class at your school? Exams must be pretty straightforward.
Our class average is usually in the 75-78% range.
I actually was last place once with a 77% on an exam. I've also been last place a couple other times, but in those my scores were below 60%.
I pity the poor patient who comes to me for treatment on some bacterial illness.
Yeah, micro sucked.
Your class must be very neurotic.I actually was last place once with a 77% on an exam. I've also been last place a couple other times, but in those my scores were below 60%.
I pity the poor patient who comes to me for treatment on some bacterial illness.
Your class must be very neurotic.
That's just ridiculous. Or grade distributions were much wider. So 4%, that's like max 4 questions on a 100 question test? Are grades A=100-90, B=89-80, etc.? Or are the thresholds dependent on how the class does (i.e. only top 5% gets As, etc.)The problem is that standard deviation of the scores is super low, so grade distributions are tight. It makes a lot of people really uptight about exactly where they are on the distribution. For example, on Pharma exams, the difference between 3rd quartile and 1st quartile was 4%.
That's just ridiculous. Or grade distributions were much wider. So 4%, that's like max 4 questions on a 100 question test? Are grades A=100-90, B=89-80, etc.? Or are the thresholds dependent on how the class does (i.e. only top 5% gets As, etc.)