Even the lousy DO schools manage to have more updated infoMaybe I’m missing something, but recent developments don’t seem to be very clearly articulated here
Accreditation & Licensing
www.cnsu.edu
In theory, yes, but CNU's pattern of behavior thus far has not been reassuring.
Where are you getting this?
Don’t they not accept federal loans? Those who can pay or borrow 90k per academic year in private loans are more likely to be wealthy, or at least I would assume
Well loans are loans. The students can't change the fact that the school is private. But ok.
I agree with my colleague here. We know accreditation has a ton of stuff that is kept confidential so unless you're an accreditor (can't discuss it) or a university high-level administrator (president, dean, board of trustee member: won't discuss this) or involved in the accreditation process in writing up the reports (definitely won't discuss this), everything is set up so that the school has the benefit of the doubt and expectation to do whatever it takes to avoid the public disclosure of a probation status. As has been pointed out, the failure to meet milepost deadlines in a timely manner already tells you something was amiss.
Federal loans and payback mechanisms are important ways to manage student debt that this school has chosen not to provide from day one.
They admitted that class with faxes and PayPal, not AMCAS within two months of starting classes.
www.studentdoctor.net
Pretty sure hackensack did the same, lots of similarities between the two
Do you think there is a risk that hackensack doesn’t gain accreditation? If so, why? Wouldn’t it be a blemish on the entire hospital system? Also I thought the CNU was for profit. Didn’t know this was the case at HMSM
Yeah they had the whole weird thing with Seton Hall too. I forgot what that was about
Hackensack has an interesting history, but similarities are limited.
Hackensack should be fine. It's also not-for-profit.
Should applicants be worried about CUSM? It is in the preliminary accreditation status and is not for profit as well. However, it was founded by the same Robert Suskind who founded CNU... I know its origins are not ideal, but should we be worried about their accreditation based on what we've seen here?
I don't have any real knowledge of CUSM, which implies that it has managed to stay under the radar relative to CNU. While it sort of gives off a strip mall vibe, it's a non-profit, it can claim a real mission (docs for Inland Empire), and its partnership with Arrowhead looks pretty strategic.
I would say that the majority of medical education buildings that I have been to do not look like this one. Doesn’t really say much about the education I guess but that is where strip malls descriptor comes in
They started out at a location that does look like a strip mall. They moved into this facility two years ago and it is right accorss the street from Arowhead Regional Hospital that has descent residency programs. Clinical education is good because I believe students rotate to many hospitals local to the IE. Students are not sent to 25 different locations accross mulitple states for M3 and M4.
Is this a reasonable request or is it unlikely to be granted?
Transfers into CA MD schools are rare. Transfer between CA MD schools is unheard of.
Under normal circumstances, yes.
From Northstate or CUSM?
Northstate.
I imagine the CNU orientation is going to feel rather subdued this year.
Another one in California, that specific information is not going to be shared
It’s not fair game to try to pin down who people are on SDN. The anonymity of the site allows us all to speak freely
Or, they will continue in full denial and deny to their incoming students that there is anything at all to worry about. And the students who are there will happily swallow it hook, line and sinker. If not, why would they risk being there at all under the present circumstances?
This is absolutely terrifying as lot of dots are starting to connect for me now. CNUCOM must have created the "BS/MD" program back in 2016, the post-bacc program, and the masters programs in order to ensure an influx of students are coming into their school regardless of their future accreditation issues. Even if all the outside applicants from other undergraduate colleges (UCLA, UCSD, Stanford, etc) are denying their CNUCOM admission decisions, many desperate CNU BS/MD and CNU post-bacc students will still take the acceptance if it is their only one... they can probably fill up half of their class with just kids from CNU already. It is almost as if CNU predicted this could occur. This is absolutely embarrassing on CNU's part and a scheme to ensure they have a constant supply of students.
yup. I was in the post bacc program a couple years ago. They had started to become popular and competitive so myself and a lot of qualified post bacc and BS/MD students were denied admissions to the med school but now that the truth came out about their accreditation, they will fill their class with the BSMD and post bacc and masters students.
I mean these types of programs are pretty common, and literally every other school is not having these problems.
I suspect most students there are aware of their current situation. This page is one of the top search results regarding CNU's accreditation status, so it's hardly a secret. People talk and rumors spread quickly. Unfortunately, the students currently there are in an unenviable situation; however, until the school closes (if it does), people will continue to matriculate. For many, having a shot is better than no shot at all. It's flawed logic, but that hasn't prevented many students from pursuing the Caribbean route despite its well-known risks and six figure debt.
The is exactly my point! The school will deny to incoming students that there is a problem, and the students will suspend their disbelief and gobble up the BS. Flawed logic, because if they looked at the situation with their eyes wide open, they'd never write the big check, or sign the big private lender promissory note, while hoping for the best. If there is anything worse than being stuck with a big federal loan after washing out of the Caribbean, it's this, if the worst case is that the school closes and current students have to start over at another school, rather than being allowed to transfer!
Given their history from the very beginning of their existence, were you honestly expecting anything else?
Details? And, is your knowledge limited to the dental school, or does it apply to the university as a whole?
Is there any way to short this?
If only! If it traded, it would already be a penny stock, so there would be no point!
Ohhhh! Where did you hear this???
At this point, given the wide reporting of their issues, I don't think they will be ensnaring anyone.
Waldman or Silva???
