Lol what programs? Hopkins EM, PMR, Yale IM and Yale IM PC track and DR have taken DO's too, I mean PCOM had a CT surgery match at UMich.. If it was between a school like PCOM and CNU... knowing what we know.. I would certainly have to give it a thought.. I mean the school couldn't get initial accreditation dude...haven't seen that happen like ever, at least not in a long time.
Wait why would a top-tier residency waste its own time and resources to do that though? Honest question.
Dude those FMG's I can 1000% guarantee have years and years of research years to get that spot.. like no DO senior would do that just for a particular brand name place and give up $$$ of attending salary.. it all pays the same at the end of the day.. hope you understand that lol .
They don't... spidermedic is an M2 with very limited knowledge in the applying to residency process. No residency program is wasting precious residency spot interview in competitive specialties as a courtesy. Believe it or not DO's actually sometimes rank lower ranked programs higher... I 1000% percent know a DO(with 230's step but a great overall app) who ranked Harvard ortho lower on his list.. I also know of a DO who ranked Vandy derm lower on thier list too.
No they don't. That's a myth. There are many programs (including some cards and GI fellowships near me) that are 33/33/33 DO/FMG/IMG and all have less research than M3s at my school. Let's stop acting like the average FMG is some 280/30 pubs rockstar. USMDs average ~235 and it's the IMG/FMG/DO that bring that number down
I have limited knowledge? You don't seem to understand how ranking works. It is literally to one's benefit to rank programs based on their preference, not where they think they're most likely to match. You cannot game the system. It's an algorithm. Where are all these osteopaths ranking MGH and Hopkins dead list on their list? I want to meet them
What are you even talking about? Just stop dude lol.. You were talking about top tier residencies like top 5-10 programs taking FMG's over DO's and not considering DO's, I am saying those FMG's got those spots because of research years at those institutions often spending a few years there. No one is talking about a cards or GI fellowship that is 33/33/33 DO/FMG/IMG lol what does that have to do with anything. Also dead wrong about the 235 average, that average includes DO's but not FMG's as it's only US medical students. Just look at the IM spreadsheet(I have) the vast majority of IMG's have 240 if not higher. Very few FMG's can even realistically match FM without a 220. Your attitude scares me for your future patients and how you will treat your future colleagues.
PM&R is literally the most DO friendly. The ortho is a pitt-partner hospital not the main branch. Reminds me of a kid I knew from college who was telling me his brother matched at cleveland clinic. I asked some more to find out he was a caribb grad and matched FM at a cleveland clinic remote branch
let's see you match ortho at that pitt partner hospital in about 2 years... it's all acgme now anyways. You need some humble pie
Not interested in surgery but thanks for your kind words
Really? Your such a failure man.. in a USMD school but only wants FM.. what a shame your gonna essentially be a "osteopath"
I don’t see how that changes the fact that student will be an orthopedic surgeon. And I already disclosed that the best training spots are sometimes not Ivy-League or similar “fancy” names.
You're* and I'm actually going for FM and getting certified in OMM then opening just doing the latter for the next 30 years
Awesome.... in all seriousness tho.. let's stop s****** on each other's degrees, there's NP's quite literally trying to do our jobs with like 2 years of schooling, getting fake DNP's and calling each other "doctors"and practicing medicine independently getting six figures. I'd be much more worried about that in the grand scheme of things.
Yea I was asked about me being a DO exactly once in all my traditional MD program interviews, I truly believe that the vast majority of people do not care....
Have all osteopaths take USMLE
lol... so many DO schools would get shut down in an instant if they had to meet LCME standards. Is diversity even a thing under COCA? I've seen some osteopath school pictures and it's like 95% caucasian with a sprinkle of asian. Easy to bash on MD schools since our standards are higher
Is it actually for profit though?
Your soo wrong on this... the VAST majority of people who can pass comlex can pass USMLE(not do well) but pass.... The material is quite literally the same. The DO's who don't take it because if they didn't do well on comelx they likely wouldn't do well on usmle and those that was primary care(FM, peds etc) dont need to take 2 exams tbh.. but the 40% not passing is a ridiculous number, I have taken both exams they aren't all that different TBH..Have all osteopaths take USMLE
>50% would not be licensed if that was the case and ~40% of current students wouldn't pass it (20-60% depending on school)
100% for profit
You mean like upike w/their 6x% COMLEX passrate as early as 2014?
But which school is that exactly?
LOL go study dude... hit anki/U World/Pathoma or whatever
haavurd
Very valid question, could be a troll for all we know lol
Standard 1: Mission, Planning, Organization, and Integrity
The fact that you said that an ENT spot could be a prelim is everything I need to know about your lack of knowledge about any of this.. just stop dude...
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A match list tells me nothing, especially when all of these residencies could be at very weak programs. How about telling me the retention rate of people in your school? I've heard people say that nearly 1/4th of your class fails to finish their education.
Though admittedly the 3 ENT positions is impressive, but again I'm not being told whether these are PGY-2 or preliminary spots. Point being is that unlike every other DO school in the nation, KYCOM is without a doubt the one that tries it's best to not desiminate information about it's self, then again with a rumored 60% COMLEX-1 Step pass rate, that's probably for the best."
You all need to pass the USMLE. The AAMC data shows <497 MCAT indicates a significant risk of failing USMLE. COMLEX is an easier exam and the pass rates aren't any better considering so many are in the 490s. Just look at the KHS-COM or whatever new school is popping up. They're interviewing/accepting people with 490s.
"Applicants meeting the minimum initial review criteria may be invited to complete the KHSCKansasCOM Secondary Application. The minimum criteria for receipt of a Secondary Application:
Why do I hear Gaelic music in the distance?
Yes, it's a for profit school. The ONLY for profit MD school.
www.usmle.org
Why bother?The pass rates are essentially identical for Step 1:
Performance Data | USMLE
The National Board of Medical Examiners publishes USMLE performance data in its annual reports. Most of the data presented here are excerpted from those publications.
This has nothing to do with the original topic.
Troll let's no feed him/her
It started as a for-profit, but switched its status a few years ago to secure $900 million in bonds to build a new hospital.
Go back and read the attachment to post #37.
With one exception, it seems.
Well, LCME doesn't have much of a backbone.
Very unlikely.
