Baylor College of Medicine Class of 2010

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QofQuimica said:
I do want to go into academic medicine. But I'm going to be coming into med school with a PhD already, so an MD/PhD program really isn't appropriate for me. Since my PhD is in basic science (chemistry), I would like to get some clinical research training. I don't care that much about waiting one more year if it will help me in the future. It's not like I've been making big bucks anyway as a grad student all these years, so I'm used to it. :smuggrin: You're in your first year, I take it. When do you have to commit to doing the research track? And what exactly are these info meetings you attended?

The one year of research will be different than the type of research an MD/PhD would do. You don't have time for a lengthy project, instead you will be doing case studies. You can do this type of work after your 1st year and get an idea of what it will be like, then decide. But since you already have a PhD it doesn't seem necessary to take an extra year. You will be able to go straight into academic medicine without it.

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LadyJubilee8_18 said:
I'M GOING TO BAYLOR COLLEGE OF MEDICINE BIZZZNATCHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I couldn't be happier, I danced around the kitchen with my boyfriend for about thirty min...I'll continue later. YAY!!!! I can't wait for medical school to start, screw this senior year bs, I'M READY! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

good job :D :thumbup:
 
Bernito said:
The one year of research will be different than the type of research an MD/PhD would do. You don't have time for a lengthy project, instead you will be doing case studies. You can do this type of work after your 1st year and get an idea of what it will be like, then decide. But since you already have a PhD it doesn't seem necessary to take an extra year. You will be able to go straight into academic medicine without it.
Case studies? What does that entail, exactly? And I didn't get the impression that all med students would be expected to only do one certain type of research; is this the case? I guess I should be more explicit about what I am wanting to do: there is a clinical pharm research program at Baylor that I would possibly be interested in joining for research, regardless of whether I stayed for four years or five. My understanding is that there is quite a bit of time to do research at Baylor, including the summer before the first year, summer after the first year, and as an elective during the fourth year, along with the optional fifth year. That is one of the advantages IMO to you finishing your coursework so early compared to most other schools.
 
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BTW, congrats Jubilee. Good luck to you. I am not trying to ruin the euphoria, just didn't want this last topic to go forgotten...

QofQuimica said:
Case studies? What does that entail, exactly? And I didn't get the impression that all med students would be expected to only do one certain type of research; is this the case? I guess I should be more explicit about what I am wanting to do: there is a clinical pharm research program at Baylor that I would possibly be interested in joining for research, regardless of whether I stayed for four years or five. My understanding is that there is quite a bit of time to do research at Baylor, including the summer before the first year, summer after the first year, and as an elective during the fourth year, along with the optional fifth year. That is one of the advantages IMO to you finishing your coursework so early compared to most other schools.


I didn't mean to imply that case studies are just one thing. But from what I understand, an unusual patient case comes up (so this could be from a wide range of specialties), and you basically "study" it and report (publish) it for future reference.

Baylor does offer substantial time for research, 1 month after first year, a couple in 4th, then plus the 1 year if you do that track. But I'm not sure you could get into pharma research in that amount of time.
 
Just a little synopses of baylor's future plans:

http://www.bcm.edu/watchusgrow/?PMID=0

From all I hear and see, I'm defintely looking foward to baylor's future.

Bernito said:
BTW, congrats Jubilee. Good luck to you. I am not trying to ruin the euphoria, just didn't want this last topic to go forgotten...




I didn't mean to imply that case studies are just one thing. But from what I understand, an unusual patient case comes up (so this could be from a wide range of specialties), and you basically "study" it and report (publish) it for future reference.

Baylor does offer substantial time for research, 1 month after first year, a couple in 4th, then plus the 1 year if you do that track. But I'm not sure you could get into pharma research in that amount of time.
 
MED_04 said:
Just a little synopses of baylor's future plans:

http://www.bcm.edu/watchusgrow/?PMID=0

From all I hear and see, I'm defintely looking foward to baylor's future.

Also whenever I pass by the the first part of the baylor clinic I'm amazed by the size of it. The second phase is gonna be twice as big! And students have already started to do rotations there so don't think its off-limits to us =)
 
MED_04 said:
Also whenever I pass by the the first part of the baylor clinic I'm amazed by the size of it. The second phase is gonna be twice as big! And students have already started to do rotations there so don't think its off-limits to us =)
Are you a current student, or an applicant?
 
QofQuimica said:
I do want to go into academic medicine. But I'm going to be coming into med school with a PhD already, so an MD/PhD program really isn't appropriate for me. Since my PhD is in basic science (chemistry), I would like to get some clinical research training. I don't care that much about waiting one more year if it will help me in the future. It's not like I've been making big bucks anyway as a grad student all these years, so I'm used to it. :smuggrin: You're in your first year, I take it. When do you have to commit to doing the research track? And what exactly are these info meetings you attended?

You dont commit till 2nd yr of school.
The info meetings are just general info about the program and process of the MSRT. Starting in Jan of your 1st year, you attend seminars from various departments to get a feel for what different departments are doing in their labs. Starting at the begining of 2nd year you begin to develop your HHMI fellowship application for funds, and in spring you match to a mentor.
 
LadyJubilee8_18 said:
I'M GOING TO BAYLOR COLLEGE OF MEDICINE BIZZZNATCHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I couldn't be happier, I danced around the kitchen with my boyfriend for about thirty min...I'll continue later. YAY!!!! I can't wait for medical school to start, screw this senior year bs, I'M READY! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Congrats, welcome to the fam.
Take advantage of your senior year as much as possible, and soak up the free time that you have left.
 
MadameLULU said:
hey babe

looking forward to your baking skills on monday

hehe. Baking you say..... is that where you put stuff in the oven, and heat up food like a microwave?
:D
 
Bernito said:
I didn't mean to imply that case studies are just one thing. But from what I understand, an unusual patient case comes up (so this could be from a wide range of specialties), and you basically "study" it and report (publish) it for future reference.

Baylor does offer substantial time for research, 1 month after first year, a couple in 4th, then plus the 1 year if you do that track. But I'm not sure you could get into pharma research in that amount of time.

I think your confusing the MSRT program with our IPS class ( a PBL based class where we do case problem solving sessions). In the MSRT program you do bench/lab or possibly some clinical research with the the goal of #1) obtaining a HHMI fellowship to obtain funding (hard to get, looks good on cv) and #2) being a first author on a publication for your research.
certainly not limited to review article stuff ( i think thats what your thinking of?).
 
MED_04 said:
Also whenever I pass by the the first part of the baylor clinic I'm amazed by the size of it. The second phase is gonna be twice as big! And students have already started to do rotations there so don't think its off-limits to us =)

It looks like the building is the whole clinic, but phase I of the BCM clinic only occupies the top 4 or so floors of the building. Phase II which will be completed next year, and will occupy the entire building being currently built.
 
MoosePilot said:
Congratulations! Give us details on how you found out!
Ok, sorry to post and then just walk away. I drove to Dallas for my southwestern interview tomorrow (like I'm really going there, but whatever). Anyway, I went to go see Dr. Michael because I wanted to drop off a letter of intent. I actually wrote the letter on the back of a painting I did for him (ah kissing ass). Anyway, when I got there, we talked about art for a little while, and he asked if I was really committed to Baylor. I told him I came by to tell him in person that Baylor was my top choice and I'd be pulling out of the match if I got accepted. Then he handed me my letter!!! It was awesome, I was trying not to laugh too much or get too loud, lol but I was really excited. I'm totally going there next year!!! YAY! Baylor is the shizznit! Oh, I interviewed two weeks ago (Oct. 28th) SO HAPPY!
 
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LadyJubilee8_18 said:
Ok, sorry to post and then just walk away. I drove to Dallas for my southwestern interview tomorrow (like I'm really going there, but whatever). Anyway, I went to go see Dr. Michael because I wanted to drop off a letter of intent. I actually wrote the letter on the back of a painting I did for him (ah kissing ass). Anyway, when I got there, we talked about art for a little while, and he asked if I was really committed to Baylor. I told him I came by to tell him in person that Baylor was my top choice and I'd be pulling out of the match if I got accepted. Then he handed me my letter!!! It was awesome, I was trying not to laugh too much or get too loud, lol but I was really excited. I'm totally going there next year!!! YAY! Baylor is the shizznit! Oh, I interviewed two weeks ago (Oct. 28th) SO HAPPY!
THAT is awesome.... congrats!!!
 
LadyJubilee8_18 said:
Ok, sorry to post and then just walk away. I drove to Dallas for my southwestern interview tomorrow (like I'm really going there, but whatever). Anyway, I went to go see Dr. Michael because I wanted to drop off a letter of intent. I actually wrote the letter on the back of a painting I did for him (ah kissing ass). Anyway, when I got there, we talked about art for a little while, and he asked if I was really committed to Baylor. I told him I came by to tell him in person that Baylor was my top choice and I'd be pulling out of the match if I got accepted. Then he handed me my letter!!! It was awesome, I was trying not to laugh too much or get too loud, lol but I was really excited. I'm totally going there next year!!! YAY! Baylor is the shizznit! Oh, I interviewed two weeks ago (Oct. 28th) SO HAPPY!

Wow that is so awesome. I am so happy for you. Hopefully some of us will be able to join you.
 
LadyJubilee8_18 said:
Ok, sorry to post and then just walk away. I drove to Dallas for my southwestern interview tomorrow (like I'm really going there, but whatever). Anyway, I went to go see Dr. Michael because I wanted to drop off a letter of intent. I actually wrote the letter on the back of a painting I did for him (ah kissing ass). Anyway, when I got there, we talked about art for a little while, and he asked if I was really committed to Baylor. I told him I came by to tell him in person that Baylor was my top choice and I'd be pulling out of the match if I got accepted. Then he handed me my letter!!! It was awesome, I was trying not to laugh too much or get too loud, lol but I was really excited. I'm totally going there next year!!! YAY! Baylor is the shizznit! Oh, I interviewed two weeks ago (Oct. 28th) SO HAPPY!
Great story! :thumbup: And I agree w/ you about Baylor.
 
QofQuimica said:
Great story! :thumbup: And I agree w/ you about Baylor.

Congrats LadyJubilee!

Does Baylor interview every 2 weeks or every week?
 
hey pretty exciting to be reliving all the adventures of applying.

Baylor interviews every 2 weeks from what I remember and see when lots of people are running around in suits on every other Friday. Of course, there are also Tulane applicants running around in the middle of the week at random times too...hehe

I think you mean "case reviews" or that kind of research, as opposed to more hard-core basic science bench research. There's nothing really wrong with this kind of research, as it is also very important. I think it really depends on who your mentor is. I have an MS4 friend at BCM who just finished his research year and he was doing basic science materials research in the plastic surgery department, so it's possible I hear.

Congratulations everyone! You're gonna love it at Baylor!
 
generic said:
hey pretty exciting to be reliving all the adventures of applying.

Baylor interviews every 2 weeks from what I remember and see when lots of people are running around in suits on every other Friday. Of course, there are also Tulane applicants running around in the middle of the week at random times too...hehe

That's what I thought. The only reason I asked is because I interviewed on 10/21 and LadyJubilee said she interviewed 10/28. So, I was just wondering if Baylor is interviewing more applicants than before. hmm.
 
congrats to all accepted applicants! welcome to the baylor family and all that. =) look forward to having you guys here next year.
 
QofQuimica said:
I do want to go into academic medicine. But I'm going to be coming into med school with a PhD already, so an MD/PhD program really isn't appropriate for me. Since my PhD is in basic science (chemistry), I would like to get some clinical research training. I don't care that much about waiting one more year if it will help me in the future. It's not like I've been making big bucks anyway as a grad student all these years, so I'm used to it. :smuggrin: You're in your first year, I take it. When do you have to commit to doing the research track? And what exactly are these info meetings you attended?

I think you can commit to do the research track at anytime, although it may be easier if you have an idea during the first 2 years. I have two friends who decided early in their third year that they wanted to do research and took a year off between their third and fourth year.

Just to clarify, one doesn't have to go thru the HHMI in order to take the research track. Other possibilities include the Doris Duke fellowship, Sarnoff Endowment, or just working under any PI.

Anyhow, Baylor also pays for "tuition" during your year off. I think this is primarily so you don't have to worry about loans during the research year. For those of y'all interested in research and are looking at other schools, I'd research this aspect.

Also, I think someone asked about buying property here? I'm flirting with the idea of purchasing property around feb. For OOS, It's incredibly easy to get in state tuition one year after purchasing property. There are tons of older condos and new ones (7575 Kirby, The Valencia) in the med center area and nicer ones a little further away (Heights, Midtown).
 
ClearDay said:
That's what I thought. The only reason I asked is because I interviewed on 10/21 and LadyJubilee said she interviewed 10/28. So, I was just wondering if Baylor is interviewing more applicants than before. hmm.
They do interview every two weeks. My guess is that they might have added a make-up date to compensate for having to cancel on 9-23 when Rita hit.
 
MadameLULU said:
Anyhow, Baylor also pays for "tuition" during your year off. I think this is primarily so you don't have to worry about loans during the research year. For those of y'all interested in research and are looking at other schools, I'd research this aspect.

Also, I think someone asked about buying property here? I'm flirting with the idea of purchasing property around feb. For OOS, It's incredibly easy to get in state tuition one year after purchasing property. There are tons of older condos and new ones (7575 Kirby, The Valencia) in the med center area and nicer ones a little further away (Heights, Midtown).
Thanks, Madame Lulu. I'm OOS, so this is a very important issue to me. I will definitely talk to some more people about the research issue when the time gets closer.

On a somewhat related note, how realistic is it to get along at Baylor without a car? I'm guessing for the first 1.5 years it's pretty doable, but do you travel around a lot for your rotations? Alternatively, if I had a car, would it be realistic to not drive it to school? I seem to remember there being a light rail system in Houston that someone told me the students use....if so, do students pay to ride it, and how much?
 
QofQuimica said:
Thanks, Madame Lulu. I'm OOS, so this is a very important issue to me. I will definitely talk to some more people about the research issue when the time gets closer.

On a somewhat related note, how realistic is it to get along at Baylor without a car? I'm guessing for the first 1.5 years it's pretty doable, but do you travel around a lot for your rotations? Alternatively, if I had a car, would it be realistic to not drive it to school? I seem to remember there being a light rail system in Houston that someone told me the students use....if so, do students pay to ride it, and how much?

Good questions. One of my friends/classmates doesn't have a car YET, but we help her out if she needs to get something. She, like most students, takes the bus to school and the bus stops right by a grocery store, so she gets alot of her groceries that way. Fortunately, Baylor pays for METRO (the bus system) passes for all students. One of our classes, PPS, requires that we go to a physician's office to practice our clinical skills. If you don't have a car, it's possible to talk to the curriculum office and get assigned to a physician who has an office near the rail. I think life w/o a car is DOABLE, but its challenging since Houston is so spread out.
 
Oh, I guess I should add, that I went 3 months w/o a car early this year and I was soo depressed. I NEED a car. It was terrible for me b/c I'm somewhat spontaneous and I never planned trips (grocery store, shopping, errands, etc...this has since changed due to med school), and so I was always stuck when I REALLY needed to get something or do something. If you're organized, it probably won't be that bad, but still, it was really difficult for me
 
MadameLULU said:
Oh, I guess I should add, that I went 3 months w/o a car early this year and I was soo depressed. I NEED a car. It was terrible for me b/c I'm somewhat spontaneous and I never planned trips (grocery store, shopping, errands, etc...this has since changed due to med school), and so I was always stuck when I REALLY needed to get something or do something. If you're organized, it probably won't be that bad, but still, it was really difficult for me
Ok, I think I would bring my car and try to live somewhere on the rail or bus line then. That way I could drive to the grocery store and the preceptor, etc. I *do* remember everyone complaining about how bad the parking is on campus. ;) But I think that's pretty universal; it's hard (and expensive) to find parking on just about every campus I've ever seen.

A few more questions: Do you feel safe at Baylor and in the surrounding area? I assume you can get a security escort if you have to be on campus late at night. And this one might be kind of premature, since most of you current students seem to be first years, but do any of you plan to stay at TMC for your residency if you can? I would really like to only move once for school, and then stay wherever I end up if at all humanly possible.

BTW, I really appreciate you guys answering all of my questions. :thumbup: I think that Baylor is a really awesome school. :)
 
QofQuimica said:
They do interview every two weeks. My guess is that they might have added a make-up date to compensate for having to cancel on 9-23 when Rita hit.

That make sense. Thanks! I was getting a little worried that they're interviewing more people this year. :oops:
 
QofQuimica said:
Ok, I think I would bring my car and try to live somewhere on the rail or bus line then. That way I could drive to the grocery store and the preceptor, etc. I *do* remember everyone complaining about how bad the parking is on campus. ;) But I think that's pretty universal; it's hard (and expensive) to find parking on just about every campus I've ever seen.

A few more questions: Do you feel safe at Baylor and in the surrounding area? I assume you can get a security escort if you have to be on campus late at night. And this one might be kind of premature, since most of you current students seem to be first years, but do any of you plan to stay at TMC for your residency if you can? I would really like to only move once for school, and then stay wherever I end up if at all humanly possible.

BTW, I really appreciate you guys answering all of my questions. :thumbup: I think that Baylor is a really awesome school. :)

Well, a classmate of mine was punched and robbed last week (in the weee hours of the morning) while walking from the rail to the parking lot right in front of Baylor (BTW, it's free after hours for students to park there). Before this incident, I had never been concerned about my safety at night. In general, I consider the TMC safe, but I think we should all be cautious at certain times of the day. After all, this is a big city...Baylor's not that far from downtown...yanno, what I'm saying? I've walked to my car from Baylor at 2 or 3 in the morning, but I wont be doing that anymore.

I'm contemplating staying here for residency, but I'm not quite sure since I've already been here for a long time. I love Houston and there are some excellent programs/opportunities here. If I end up purchasing a condo/townhome, then I'll defintely stay here
 
MadameLULU said:
Well, a classmate of mine was punched and robbed last week (in the weee hours of the morning) while walking from the rail to the parking lot right in front of Baylor (BTW, it's free after hours for students to park there). Before this incident, I had never been concerned about my safety at night. In general, I consider the TMC safe, but I think we should all be cautious at certain times of the day. After all, this is a big city...Baylor's not that far from downtown...yanno, what I'm saying? I've walked to my car from Baylor at 2 or 3 in the morning, but I wont be doing that anymore.

I'm contemplating staying here for residency, but I'm not quite sure since I've already been here for a long time. I love Houston and there are some excellent programs/opportunities here. If I end up purchasing a condo/townhome, then I'll defintely stay here

BTW, have you been accepted? I'm assuming that you have been by the questions you're asking.

Yes, I have.

:eek: about your classmate; I hope s/he's all right. Does the school or the hospital offer a security escort if you must be on campus late at night? Of course, you still have to get from the train or bus to your residence at the other end, but at least you could have them get you to the parking lot or to the train safely. Do students frequently stay on campus late at night? If so, is it by choice (i.e., to study together) or are you required to stay late for some reason?
 
I'm not sure if there's a formal escort program at Baylor, but I'm pretty sure once can always call TMC secruity or Baylor secuity if he/she happens to feel unsafe.

We aren't required to stay at school that late at all. So far, my schedule has been pretty erratic before exams and it just so happens that I'm productive studying at school during this "crunch time".
 
jubilee, did you see a big pile of other acceptance letters at Baylor?
 
MadameLULU said:
I'm not sure if there's a formal escort program at Baylor, but I'm pretty sure once can always call TMC secruity or Baylor secuity if he/she happens to feel unsafe.

This is true - no formal "escort service", but the security is always available if you need it. I remember asking about it, because I have to drive to school every day and park a little ways away, and I was initially concerned about that.

About staying late - I'm a second year now, and the latest I've ever stayed here was just last Thursday night, for an info session on starting rotations in January, and even that was only 7pm. The latest I've ever been required to be at school was 5pm. Of course, I'm the kind of person who studies better at home and I don't stick around school too much once class is over.

The whole mugging thing - that's random. I hadn't heard about it, but I'm really sorry for the victim! It's surprising to hear, simply because it's fairly rare around here. In general, yes the TMC is a pretty safe place. But like any big city, there's always the possibility of bad things happening. I doubt it was due to anything inherently wrong with the TMC.

Cars in Houston really are a must. Most of my classmates live near the rail or pretty close to a bus stop, so most don't drive to school. But Houston simply is not a pedestrian city. It's extremely difficult to get around without a car. Doable, of course, since there are people that can do it, but it wouldn't be a very happy life. Once you're outside of the TMC, parking is pretty easy to come by and usually free or pretty close to. Many of my classmates with cars rarely drive them during the week, but need them for errands or going out or something.
 
Any acceptances so far besides QofQuimica, LadyJubilee, Prettygirl1908, seilienne, and lorrayne?
 
motherofalldrs said:
jubilee, did you see a big pile of other acceptance letters at Baylor?
No, he had mine picked out already. He handed it to me from a drawer so I have no idea where the other letters are. All the letters are specific to your file, so it's pretty cool. I think it's nice that they took the time to write personalized letters instead of sending one generic acceptance letter. Anyway, I didn't see any other letters.

Hey, if we can get a list of all those who are accepted so far and plan to go, maybe we can all get together. It would be cool to meet my future class mates! :D
 
LadyJubilee8_18 said:
Hey, if we can get a list of all those who are accepted so far and plan to go, maybe we can all get together. It would be cool to meet my future class mates! :D
I will definitely be coming for a second look in the spring, so I hope to see you guys there. :) Baylor has an official Second Look, right? Anyone know when it is?
 
lady jubilee,

so did you make an apt. to speak with the dean? if so....how did you arrange that? is that why he already had yours separated?
 
QofQuimica said:
I will definitely be coming for a second look in the spring, so I hope to see you guys there. :) Baylor has an official Second Look, right? Anyone know when it is?

The second look last year was around the 2nd of April on a Monday. The minority second look was a more extended one - over a weekend and was earlier. Also, Baylor pays for your travel expenses: last year they offered $300 in cash. The only snag for me was that I arrived on the Saturday before that and it was Charity Ball, one of Baylor's traditions, and my host couldn't host me that night. Second look is great - no pressure of interviewing and great food. Plus some doctors showed us around TCH and we got to look at patients in the NICU and wards.

I also used my time on Sunday to look at apartment complexes and was able to find the one that I'm currently living in. I'd pretty much decided that I was coming to Baylor then, obviously. :)

Oh and about living in Houston without a car - I've managed fine for the last 3 months. I hitch rides with friends (luckily, I do have friends :p ) for groceries and social events. I take the rail, which is at my doorstep, to school. I requested a nearby preceptor for PPS and she's right in the med center. Of course, it is ideal to have a car if you want to have less restrictions on your mobility and to explore the outreaches of this big city. For the most part, I've gotten along happily. Just waiting on Dad to get me a car. :p
 
LadyJubilee8_18 said:
Ok, sorry to post and then just walk away. I drove to Dallas for my southwestern interview tomorrow (like I'm really going there, but whatever). Anyway, I went to go see Dr. Michael because I wanted to drop off a letter of intent. I actually wrote the letter on the back of a painting I did for him (ah kissing ass). Anyway, when I got there, we talked about art for a little while, and he asked if I was really committed to Baylor. I told him I came by to tell him in person that Baylor was my top choice and I'd be pulling out of the match if I got accepted. Then he handed me my letter!!! It was awesome, I was trying not to laugh too much or get too loud, lol but I was really excited. I'm totally going there next year!!! YAY! Baylor is the shizznit! Oh, I interviewed two weeks ago (Oct. 28th) SO HAPPY!

that is an awesome story! congrats and i will see ya when we start classes july 24th :)
 
Cool, riverie, thanks for the info. :thumbup: Any current students who own their place (condo or townhouse)? I would definitely like to buy rather than rent. Where do people normally buy in Houston near TMC (preferably on the train line or bus route)?
 
QofQuimica said:
Cool, riverie, thanks for the info. :thumbup: Any current students who own their place (condo or townhouse)? I would definitely like to buy rather than rent. Where do people normally buy in Houston near TMC (preferably on the train line or bus route)?

There are some of my classmates who own condos/townhouses. Most of the condos are in condoland, which is southeast of the med center and about a 5 minute drive away. It is on the bus route too. As for townhouses, they can be anywhere - med center area, downtown, midtown... At second look, there're property agents who are invited by Baylor to come talk to you. They provide their services for free and will drive you around to look at property.
 
I got my call at 1.40 this afternoon! Hey hobbes, this is Omar-- you know from the Rec? I hope to see you there tonight, and I hope you get your call real soon.
-Omar
 
opacha said:
I got my call at 1.40 this afternoon! Hey hobbes, this is Omar-- you know from the Rec? I hope to see you there tonight, and I hope you get your call real soon.
-Omar

congrats! - when did you interview?
 
Talked to some of my 2nd year friends today and they were told that they wouldn't have has much time off during their 3rd/4th year b/c the administration is adding a capstone course in the spring of 4th year. Supposedly, they will be adding some more required courses for the first years and the class of 2010 and so forth. So for those banking on the 8+ months of vacation/free time/insert any activity here, be aware that this may not be the case anymore. :( Perhaps ms. a knows more....???
 
MadameLULU said:
Talked to some of my 2nd year friends today and they were told that they wouldn't have has much time off during their 3rd/4th year b/c the administration is adding a capstone course in the spring of 4th year. Supposedly, they will be adding some more required courses for the first years and the class of 2010 and so forth. So for those banking on the 8+ months of vacation/free time/insert any activity here, be aware that this may not be the case anymore. :( Perhaps ms. a knows more....???
What is a capstone course?
 
MadameLULU said:
Talked to some of my 2nd year friends today and they were told that they wouldn't have has much time off during their 3rd/4th year b/c the administration is adding a capstone course in the spring of 4th year. Supposedly, they will be adding some more required courses for the first years and the class of 2010 and so forth. So for those banking on the 8+ months of vacation/free time/insert any activity here, be aware that this may not be the case anymore. :( Perhaps ms. a knows more....???

We've all been talking about this, especially once one of the women in charge of our scheduling said we should plan on having about 4 months off. That, of course, freaked us all out! It's not exactly true. We still have 9 or 10 months off. Things may very well change slightly with new classes, as these things are always in flux, so what I say might not apply exactly to you all, but it shouldn't be too different.

Here's what we are required to fulfill (starting January of second year):
12 weeks of medicine
12 weeks of surgery
8 weeks of OB/GYN
8 weeks of Pysch
8 weeks of Peds
4 weeks of Neuro
4 weeks of Family medicine
4 weeks of some medicine subspecialties
5 months of elective (this includes a newly required sub-internship in one of 4 fields - medicine, surgery, family medicine, and one other - I don't remember)

All that added up is 80 weeks, which works out to about 19 months. Given that we start rotations in January of second year, we have about 28 months to do everything. When the woman told us that we could count on about 4 months off, she was taking into account a lot of other stuff that can really also be considered as time off. First of all, many people take about 2 months off to study for Step I January and February of 3rd year. There is also some other random exam thing that we have to take at some certain time (I obviously really have no clue what it is or when), but it's apparently only given at a certain time (it involves actually examining standardized patients, so it's hard to schedule whenever you want). So you have to be around for that and not off on some beach.

Then, there are classes that are held during our rotations that we sort of have to be around for. Starting in January of second year, we have something called CABS (no idea what that stands for). Basically, we come to Baylor every Thursday afternoon for a class. There's two exams involved in it, and it's over sometime in May/June. Attendance is not required, but it helps (sort of like PPS). Then, all of 3rd year, there is LACE (Longitudinal something Care something - basically, you follow a patient or patients for a long time). For that, your grade is based solely on how many sessions you attend.

Forth year they are currently restructuring. Currently, they have MMD (basically advanced IPS - the case study course thing). Many people have said that they don't learn a thing, but the administration apparently thinks it's important. So they're trying to redo it. My take is that it will be another once a week afternoon thing with small groups. Then there's the Capstone crap. No one really knows what it is. When we asked the administration at our info session on Tuesday, they said they couldn't tell us what it really was going to be because they aren't really sure themselves. Helpful, huh? The plan is to have it be some "bring it all together" sort of thing that happens during one month sometime in the spring of our 4th year. How one attempts to bring all of medicine together in one month is beyond me, but that's what we're told.

So, you can see that while there are still about 9 or 10 months with no rotations, there are still things going on here that you need to be around for and don't really have completely "off", and that's what the woman was referring to. Obviously, they know that people will be doing away rotations during all of this stuff, and know that people will be missing certain classes. It's fully expected.

I hope that answers the question. Let me know if you're now more confused.
 
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