HAS ANYONE GOTTEN THEIR PCAT MARKS FROM JAN23 YET?!?!?! i heard they're going to be on the website THIS WEEK apparently people in texas already got their scores
Do you think my quantitative will hurt me too much?
anyone have a rough idea how much tuition will be for the 4 year program?
Is that really true though?
I mean, you would think that they would want to get a full assessment of the applicant's abilities. Just because someone can memorize formulas and structures doesn't necessarily make them a good pharmacy candidate. Just like someone who might be great at comprehension and communication, but doesn't understand basic science at all might not be the best candidate either.
I'm just saying that it seems to me like a waste of time for a pharmacy school to ask you to write the PCAT only to look at the composite score, because theoretically your GPA should also be representative of it since a lot of the courses you take to earn said GPA is the same as what is on the PCAT. At least if they look at the subtest percentiles, they can get an idea of how well rounded a student is...
Of course I am just trying to make myself feel better because I would say my GPA right now is maybe a 3.2 from the U of C and I have no idea what that translates to at UBC.
I think its mainly just used to ensure consistency between schools for pre-requisite courses. What I mean by this is that if someone has a 90% GPA from a school and they end up getting 50% composite on the PCAT, the admissions committee would think twice about accepting said student, or even giving them an interview. But if you have an 80% average and maybe an 85% PCAT, they would probably give them an interview. The PCAT is only worth 10% or so of the admissions and I really think they have alot of other ways to evaluate how well rounded of a student you are, such as the personal statements, resume which includes volunteer experience, and the interview. Now that they are switching to the multiple mini interview format, this should only increase the number of well rounded students getting into the program.
I think its mainly just used to ensure consistency between schools for pre-requisite courses. What I mean by this is that if someone has a 90% GPA from a school and they end up getting 50% composite on the PCAT, the admissions committee would think twice about accepting said student, or even giving them an interview. But if you have an 80% average and maybe an 85% PCAT, they would probably give them an interview. The PCAT is only worth 10% or so of the admissions and I really think they have alot of other ways to evaluate how well rounded of a student you are, such as the personal statements, resume which includes volunteer experience, and the interview. Now that they are switching to the multiple mini interview format, this should only increase the number of well rounded students getting into the program.
So I am just curious as to why you say MMI should only increase the number of well-rounded students getting into the program. I've heard a lot of things about this format. My brother personally went through this format to get into med school (@UBC). Although I'm not too sure how they are going to go about this with UBC Pharmacy. I don't know how many situational scenarios they can come up that would be relevant.
I thought I had a good chance to get into Pharmacy this year. I have a gpa of 3.2, a lot of extracurricular activities and volunteer experience, and 2 strong references in my opinion. Then i bombed my pcat. I have taken it twice so far. Did bad the first time, studied 10x as hard the second time, and did even worse. Now what am I going to do? I just wasted a year.
I'm a student at UBC and I'm currently majoring in MBIM.
Anyone know if I apply for a change of program and do not end up getting into the program, will I be placed back into my previous program or will I be put into general studies?
I go to the U of C, but I am sure that in any school/situation you remain in your original program if you don't get accepted into the program you want to change into. If that wasn't the case, I think they would make it very clear.
Thanks for your response. I'm going to wait it out one more year and try again. I'm going to purchase Dr. Collin's guide and keep trying. And I really did bomb my second pcat. I'm not like other people who get 90 and get upset about it. I got at least 65% on my first pcat, but then did worse on my second, which is discouraging.Well, I think the question is how bad is "bombed" according to you? I got an 87 composite, but on these boards I've seen people shrug off their 90s saying that they could have "done better." Did you at least get over the 65% minimum that UBC requires? Lots of people are saying that the PCAT isn't everything, so hang in there and hold tight and see if you get an interview. If you do, use the opportunity to wow them. If you don't, then take the PCAT again. Don't psych yourself out about it, and focus on the subjects that you've been doing poorly on. I'm in my 3rd year of my undergrad and have about the same statistics in terms of GPA and exprience as you. January was my first and only chance to take the PCAT and I hadn't taken any of the relevant math, chem, etc. courses for over a year. I bought two study guides and only made it through the chem and math sections of one of them, plus the practice test at the end of it. I thought for sure I was doomed considering my lack of preparation, but I kept my head cool and did alright.
I know that getting a poor mark can be discouraging, but if pharmacy is really what you want then you might have to wait it out another year if all else fails and try again. If you've got experience and a decent GPA then they should at least look at you and consider you for an interview. I say don't start freaking out about what you are going to do next until you know for sure. Right now everything is pretty much out of all of our hands.
Is that really true though?
Of course I am just trying to make myself feel better because I would say my GPA right now is maybe a 3.2 from the U of C and I have no idea what that translates to at UBC.
I thought I had a good chance to get into Pharmacy this year. I have a gpa of 3.2, a lot of extracurricular activities and volunteer experience, and 2 strong references in my opinion. Then i bombed my pcat. I have taken it twice so far. Did bad the first time, studied 10x as hard the second time, and did even worse. Now what am I going to do? I just wasted a year.
3.2 GPA huh.
Thats what I have. Except I'm only a 1st year prepharmer.
I took my pcat with 4 first year courses under my belt. Still waiting for results in the mail (Probably gonna say its around 60-70 comp at max, but who cares, I'm only 18 right? )
Haha, same GPA but opposite situation... I'm just finishing up my 3rd year, so I had all my pre-reqs (except for English since I hadn't decided to go into pharmacy and didn't bother taking any as options since I had a transfer credit for one English based on my AP results), but had forgotten pretty much everything by the time I took the PCAT in January. Not to mention, in my first few years I didn't do so hot because I was one of the really good students in high school who had it easy and didn't know how to study in University without being spoonfed. I've caught on now, unfortunately the mark on my GPA will last forever, and of course, higher level courses have a certain difficulty too. I'm thinking my pharmacy tech experience will really help me though. I worked at the neighbourhood pharmacy throughout high school and when I went into university my boss gave me the opportunity to train as a technician and see if I liked the idea of pharmacy. Turns out I did. And here I am.
Yea thats kinda like me. I'm not doing so hot anymore (note to self: don't be cocky and know it all because of straight a's in HS). Hopefully this summer I can get a job at a pharmacy though because it would be great if I got experience. Still waiting for PCAT marks, I'm really scared though.
Actually, don't even bother applying. You have no chance.
Well looks like I won't be applying to UBC this year =\....
Got my PCAT scores back, I think I did alright considering how this was my FIRST time and I took it with only 3 FIRST year courses under my belt in my first semester of university.
Verbal ability - 35 (Knew I did bad on this)
Biology - 66
RC - 26 (What! I thought I did good)
Quant - 74
Chem - 88
Writing 3 & 3
Composite - 62
Writing 3 & 3
It sucks because I applied to UBC and paid the 2 fees already...
Next year its gonna be an EASY 90%+ PCAT. Good luck again, hopefully I won't see any of you guys again in the 2011 forum.
Have any of you guys got your PCAT scores in the mail yet or just online? I've accessed them online too, but there is something about the idea of holding the envelope in my hand and knowing that it actually got mailed that gives me great comfort. People in the states have theirs so hopefully it will show up at my door soon... I can't believe I have to wait another four months to even find out if I get in!
Yes, got mine in the mail yesterday.
I live in Vancouver BC, Canada.
Im stressing like everyone else, but I finally submitted my application so at least that takes a bit of the pressure off.
i have :
3.7 gpa for the pre-req courses
only 84 comp on the pcat :S
year and a half experience as a pharmacy assistant
not very many EC's
keeping my fingers crossed
Whats everyone else's stats like?
I've read various discussions about how UBC converts grades from other schools to the admission average, but does anyone know the specifics for their conversion from U of C? Calgary uses the 4 point scale, and I mean, obviously it can't be quite as literal as 4=100%, 3=75%, etc... (although that would be nice). I'm in my 3rd year so I have taken all of the pre-reqs, plus some of the upper level courses they list on the website that they also take into consideration, so I really have no idea WHAT GPA they will even be looking at. My guess is *MAYBE* 3.2-ish, because I had my butt kicked by ochem and microbio, but did pretty well at physiology and anatomy and biochemistry. So I wanna think that that puts me into the suggested 75-85% range, but who really knows at this point. Speculation does me nothing, but I can't help it anyway.
Hey,
From what I hear (but im not 100% on this) they round us down. So lets say you got a an A which ranges from 85-89 - they will use 85 as the percentage (on a 4.33 scale - UofC is a 4.0 scale but they will still round it down). Thats one way they can calculate it. Which really sucks as UBC applicants will have an artificially higher % calculated than those who didnt go to UBC for their pre-reqs.
Another possible way is by using this conversion from GPA scale (4.33 scale though) to Percentage : http://www.arts.ubc.ca/students/deg...sing/academicperformance/gpa-equivalency.html. Im thinking this is equivalent to the first method.
Actually no.. English courses at UBC, the highest mark you can get is 90% because they only assign letter grades for your assignments and round DOWN. So if you get an A+, you get 90%, A, you get 85%, etc.
Nope, that's not true at all. All UBC grades go by percentages, and you can check out the statistics on PAIR (pair.ubc.ca) that ENGL 110/112 marks go beyond 90% (although rarely). How your percentage is assigned is up to your lecturer/professor.
I don't think UBC students have an "artificially higher" mark, as their marks aren't inflated compared to other schools. I guess it's arguing semantics since it's the other schools' marks that are being "artificially deflated" for admission, which I think is fair. An A+ at a university college/"lower-end" university/community college may not equate to an A+ at UBC.
Nope, that's not true at all. All UBC grades go by percentages, and you can check out the statistics on PAIR (pair.ubc.ca) that ENGL 110/112 marks go beyond 90% (although rarely). How your percentage is assigned is up to your lecturer/professor.
I don't think UBC students have an "artificially higher" mark, as their marks aren't inflated compared to other schools. I guess it's arguing semantics since it's the other schools' marks that are being "artificially deflated" for admission, which I think is fair. An A+ at a university college/"lower-end" university/community college may not equate to an A+ at UBC.
Actually it is true. Almost every professor (according to my English prof) uses the letter grade system and converts them to percentages afterwards (I didn't say they don't use percentage, just that they use letter grades to determine them), and that the highest mark you can go on your assignments/exams really is just 90%. If your term mark somehow goes above that, it is usually because your participation/presentation marks (or something other than assignments/exams) are given as a percentage without a letter grade.
lllix, are you also applying to UofA? My plan was to apply to UofA if I didn't get into UBC, but since you are in-province, wouldn't that make it easier? Have you tried contacting UBC admissions regarding transfer of grades?
okay so on my pharmacy application status, it says that UBC has received my PCAT score however, my reference letters are still not received.
Does anyone have a different status than me?
To Everyone Stressing about their PCAT marks:
Seriously don't stress guys its worth VERY VERY VERY LITTLE of your application. There has actually been cases where people had an amazing application everything else was superb but got LESS than 65% and still got in!!! Provided that your score wasn't TOO much lower than 65% you still have a chance!
And to those of you that did get above 65% and are still stressing...... I'm sure you have better things to worry about like your midterms or finals coming up!
If you've applied everything's over now until you get news if you got an interview or not so just try to relax and take it easy!
okay so on my pharmacy application status, it says that UBC has received my PCAT score however, my reference letters are still not received.
Does anyone have a different status than me?