bell412 said:[ Your so right about nurses I mean I've been an RN for 14 years and five of those I was a flight nurse for a busy hospital based 911 service. Currently I'm half way through graduate studies in nurse anesthesia. How about I give you some intelligent calls made by the Doctors.
1. Call came in from a Doctor stating that he had a 2yo having multiple epileptic seizures. We arrive at the ER and I started evaluating the patient and the diagnostics that were done and found a serum sodium of 110. The patient had another grad mal seizure and my partner and I quickly established an airway via endotracheal intubation and started correcting the hyponatremic state. Total hospital time 30 minutes. Total time before seen by an intensivst, one hour.
2. Oh how about this one. Call came in from a Doctor with a patient with 2nd and 3rd degree burns to face and neck. We get there and yours truly Doctor Woctor wanted to do rapid sequence intubation using Norcuron for muscle relaxation. Extremely intelligent decision Doctor Woctor. Come on class how long will a non-depolarzing agents that are similar to vecuronium last. Thats right 30-40 minutes. Now how long does anectine last? Perhaps one minute? By the way whats the Ed95 of anectine? My point is if you can't intubate and can't ventilate your patient dies. It didn't take to long to convince doctor woctor that anectine was the drug of choice that would save his licence. By the way watching him do laryngoscopy was very painful. He goosed twice. (You don't have a clue what I'm talking about do you) My partner was successful the fist attempt. We started the parkland formula for burn recusetaion.
3. Your gonna love this call. We arrive on scene of a roll over MVA. Three were entrapt in the vehicle and one was ejected. The one that was ejected was the most critical. Thank God when we landed on the highway there was a surgeon that happend to be in the line of stopped vehicles. I do my ABC's. I got to B and noticed a flailed segments on both sides of the chest. The surgeon saw asymetry as a hemopnemothorax and wants to go straight to the chest tube. I'm not talking about a thoracostomy I'm talking about a 32 French chest tube. He showed me his medical licence and I backed aside. He through is a chest tube with nothin comin out folks. Ok here the deal if you suspect a asymetric chest with pulmonary decompensation the airway must be managed FIRST. Then you figure out WHY the chest is asymetric. Is there flaied segments or is there a hemo or pnemothorax. The doctor was wrong class, dead wrong. Our bloody scene time was an HOUR. We have strict guidlines for 10 minute scene times. Airway managemment and other crtical intervention are done in the helicopter. This is how lives are saved. You get them to a facility where there are surgical option. Another smart decision mad by the doctors.
I've been in the buisness to long to listen to you med students talk about nurses this way. I know you have busted your ass off for many years and you probably got many more to go. But you know what? You wanted to do it. The choice was yours! The choice I've made I'll never regret. I've had a way cool job as a flight nurse. Now I'm going to become a CRNA. Maybe this nurse is smarter than you?
I agree this nurse does sound bitter. Just don't forget the MD before the A in MDA which is an acronym that means MAKES DECISIONS