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Did anybody get anything today? Nothing here.....Whitehair, are you in the mol. medicine conc.?
I will be starting the program in August just like you guys.
Did anybody get anything today? Nothing here.....Whitehair, are you in the mol. medicine conc.?
I finally got the email today for mol med. I would have preferred to get off the wait list for IMS, but this will do.
I received my acceptance today too! Congrats everybody. I guess we have to wait until the system updates our status before we can start registering for classes.
I received my acceptance today too! Congrats everybody. I guess we have to wait until the system updates our status before we can start registering for classes.
Anyone else recieved an email?
Medical Sciences Masters of Sciences (M.S.M.S.): Molecular Medicine
1st year; only a 1 year program. finished fall semester this past fall 2007.
Program length => 3 semesters; fall, spring, summer. Can be done in two if you get special permission to take classes in spring that are for summer.
1) The Pros and Cons of their program (structure of the program, learning environment, cost, location, faculty, classes, difficulty, competitiveness, other students, buildings/classrooms/facilities, etc..)
Pros: If you haven't taken the MCAT this is a good way to prepare for the bio portion of it because they teach you most everything you need to know for bio MCAT. It also uses many of the same powerpoints as the med students except we get a few more extra details they don't and don't have to know some of the stuff they do. You get to take a lot of courses that are more geared towards second year and the first year molecular medicine block. All lectures are video streamed too which is helpful.
The cons: You don't get to take the anatomy courses and histology courses that are more geared towards 1st year med school but you can do this by signing up for extra courses if you can handle it. I wouldn't advise it personally. If you are applying after the masters I'd do those extra anatomy courses afterwards in the following year. You also don't get a guaranteed interview to med school out of this program like you do with many SMP programs and formal postbacs.
Since the classrooms are in the same buildings as the med school classrooms, most classes are in MDL 1005 which have places to plug in laptops and the internet cords if you don't have wireless on your laptop. There is wireless internet on campus though so if you have wireless you are good to go.
Oh and there's a new gym for students in the med school area too but you have to have one person with you at all times for liability reasons if something happens while working out.
Faculty: Faculty seems really helpful from what I saw this semester. Not just the professors but the people in the office where we get our grades, the people in educational affairs where you reserve the conference rooms, Mrs. jackson, Mrs. Zahn, and so forth.
Cost: i'm not sure about this. You'd have to look it up by going to the following website: http://health.usf.edu/medicine/gradu...armedicine.htm
But as far as difficulty goes: it depends on your strengths and your weaknesses. I found it not that hard but a lot of work because of the bulk of material. you have to keep up and try to learn to make connections between all the material esp. in biochem.
Competitiveness, there will always be some gunners but most people who put the work do well. its not like they are trying to weed you out. They want people to succeed. Students, well you can't ever predict who your classmates are going to be so I'm going to not add thoughts on that.
2) The kinds of classes you've taken and a description.
Biochemistry, Molecular biology, cell biology: 5 credit course.
Description: its self explanatory from the title but the main difference betwen when you took these courses in undergrad and in grad school is you don't do useless stuff like tracing carbons or memorizing every single structure. You only need to know the key regulatory enzymes and the most important concepts. Also they don't really ask mathematical questions like solving delta G questions like they did in undergrad. They ask questions that emphasize the key points in the powerpoints.
Medical Microbiology: 3 credit course.
Description: First test is overview and basics of mycology (Fungi), virology, parasites (worms and protozoa), and basic bacterial genetics and metabolism concepts. Second and third test are more bacteriology focused and clinical case based. A good USMLE board review book gives good practice questions for this.
Scientific Writing and Ethics: 2 credit course
Description: Learn how to write scientific and review papers. Write a review paper and take in class quizzes. Really boring and more geared towards people who are planning on a research career but a necessary part of the degree
Electives: Biostats: online class or Bioinformatics.
I didn't take the fall electives. I'm doing mine in spring and summer.
Spring courses include: Genomics and Genetics, Host Parasite Interactions, Cellular and Molecular immunology, and elective choices. I'm taking advances in virology next semester but there is also proteomics and some biotechnology course offered.
Summer courses include metabolic basis of human disease, clinical correlations in molecular medicine, and vaccines and applied immunology. There is also the methods in molecular medicine course which is all lab stuff mostly.
You only need 5 credits of electives which is 2 courses.
3) Something they wished they knew coming into the program
I wish I knew all the study spots around USF COM that I didn't discover til the last week or so. USF COM doesn't do a good job of advertising all the places they have to study around campus. The didn't do a good job of it at the orientation either.
4) Something they would like to tell incoming students about your program
Hardest course will be the first semester biochem course but if you are going to do this program I strongly advise you to learn things in such a way you retain it. As you go along start cutting or looking around your powerpoints for where things repeat and keep going over all the material instead of just that test's worth ofmaterial and you'll be saving a lot of trouble come finals time whenyou have the cumm. final. Try t piece it together like a story and make a play out of it when you are discussing with others. It will make you reember things. Don't memorize for the short term, try to make it stick in the long term.
If you do well in this you'll have a good shot at getting in med school though it isn't an official SMP program. I'm glad I did this program instead of the IMS program because its intense but not as intense as IMS.
5) Tips for students applying to your program
See above. Go to lecture even though its on video because sometimes they use laser pointers which don't show up on the video lectures. Only use video lectures as a replacement for going to lecture if you can't go due to illness or a job that is critical to paying your bills or reasons of that nature. Otherwise, try to use the video only to catch points you missed in lecture.
6) Did it help you get into medical school/dental school/etc.?
I'm applying after the program. I had a classmate that got several DO interviews and acceptances, another classmate who got an acceptance to dental school, yet another classmate who got into FSU COM, and another classmate who had several dental interviews. I know there are others in our class who also have had MD interviews but whether or not they've been accepted is another story.
7) Anything else you'd like to add
8) A rating from 1-5 (1 being the worst (no recommendation) to 5 (full recommendation)
My personal rating would be 5! Although it isn't an SMP program with guaranteed admissions, it is a really good program to help you boost your scientific knowledge and also allow you to take courses similar to the med student courses and boost your GPA. Most people who have done this program and succeeded and applied to medical or dental school have gotten in somewhere.
Note to students reading: A majority of these ratings will be subjective and will vary from student to student within the same program. This is just another resource to help our SDN students out
I just thought I'd add a bit more to my previous post on the M.S.M.S. in molecular medicine, since I'm halfway through another semester.
I just thought I'd add that the semesters build on the previous semester. For instance, we were briefly introduced to terms like translocations, rearrangements, etc. in biochem and that was expanded upon in better detail in genomics. What we learn this semester will further be built on next semester.
Oh and one of our classmates just got into USF med a few weeks ago, but they don't like giving interviews early because you only have one semester to go by with just 10-13 credits of grades, so it is almost better to apply after the program if you can. Otherwise you most likely will get a late interview.
New Masters at USF COM that I wanted to let you guys know about.
its a masters in medical microbiology and Immunology with the same classes I did for molecular medicine plus you have to take advances in virology as a required course which I did as an elective and you have to take an extra class in fall called Medical Parasitology and Mycology.
I was talking with Seema the other day because I went to see Mrs. jackson to ask for advice, and she was saying that they had 2 students drop from IMS and had 17 initially accepted. However, 15 was their past max capacity which is why they opted not to take people off the IMS waitlist. They are already full enough.
Sorry about that. But truth be told, it is hard as hell from what I've heard some students who got accepted to med school were not at the 3.0 overall cutoff and are not going to even be getting a degree even though they got in med school.
Thanks for the info. I decided to stop emailing Seema, b/c I think she might of got annoyed with all my emails.
I know you said the IMS program is hard, but I was wondering what makes it so hard. Is it the "Human Anatomy Section 1" class? Do they work with a cadaver. Or are their grades based on a curve of how well the med students. do. Also the people that got into med school, was it USF or other schools?
this is weird... I still didn't get an email from them. Do they send rejection emails? or if your rejected do they not send an email at all? I guess I should call them on monday.
Thanks for the heads up. I attended USF for undergrad, so it should be just a matter of updating a few things.
You mentioned that you already registered for classes. Were you able to get all of your classes? What electives do you plan on taking? Also what do you think your schedule is going to look like?
I just spoke with Ms. Jackson and she basically told me that although I met the cutoffs they had a lot of applicants this year and i'm waitlisted. She told me about the online health sciences master's that they have and said its just as reputable as the other master's programs. I wonder if thats true and would be as beneficial as other programs to get into med school. I have been accepted to UMDNJ-Newark... so I was wondering if I should do that or just stay here and do the online program at USF? Any input on this would be appreciated.
While looking for the block schedules that Jville mentioned, I ran into these guides that the c/o 2009 wrote for the MD/PT students.
Guide to living in Tampa - with descriptions of the area and apartment info
Things to do in Tampa - if this is like Gainesville, some of these places might have a new name
Course overview/textbooks - might help with the mol med block
Studying advice
General Wisdom
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I remember everyone say that the health insurance offered by USF sucked, but I see they have a new plan for Fall 08. Is it good? I was always under my parents, so I have no clue what's good and what's not. http://shsweb.shs.usf.edu/
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If you care to see the block info, here is the link http://hsc.usf.edu/medicine/educationalaffairs/educational_program_calendar.html
I was able to register for GMS 6200C, BCH 6935, and GMS6100C. I did not register for any electives. I will do them in the Spring and Summer. The fall semester is supposedly your hardest because of GMS 6200. Not a bad schedule at all.
What is everyone doing about the MCAT?
If I could go back, I think I would have taken my elective in the Fall. I felt like this was actually the easiest semester b/c 2 of the classes only meet once per week, microbio is straight memorization for the A, and ethics is also a walk in the park. I thought the spring was more challenging b/c the genomics class is difficult and when we took it the tests were 20 questions each leaving very little room for error. The summer was not that much harder class-wise, but taking the classes over 6 weeks is a little more fast-paced. If Dr. Barber is still teaching bioinformatics in the fall, I'd go with that one.
Thanks for the advice. Since you need 5 cr hrs in electives, don't you actually need two classes?
I will be taking the MCAT in August. I am hoping to do well enough that I don't lose the interim year. If not, I am going to have to figure out what to do for that year. What about everyone else?
I will be taking the MCAT in August. I am hoping to do well enough that I don't lose the interim year. If not, I am going to have to figure out what to do for that year. What about everyone else?
I'm not sure if I will volunteer/shadow/research. I did three years of volunteering and 1.5 years of shadowing weekly. And I did research for 3 years with multiple publications. My issues were more improving my GPA and MCAT. If I decide to do something, it will most likely be volunteering, since it takes less time than research.
it will only help if you get published or present at a national conference. Just doing lab work with no tangible profits i.e. publications, presentations at conferences, etc. will probably not mean much and as much as people always say try to get published, that is easier said then done.
I remember when we were doing research at the neuro labs as an ugrad and my friend's research was thought to be unpublished. but within a few days a different lab published the same exact experiments before our lab was done doing them.
I mean its easier said then done unless you go to a lab where there is very truly unique research that smaller percentage of people do i.e. natural products research I did at the chem lab with Dr. Bill J. Baker was ultra unique even though other labs out of the university were doing similar things because there were smaller groups of people doing it and only him doing that kind of research on Antarctic organisms. Therefore, the likelihood of finding something new and interesting with chances of publication if one worked intensely were higher. But even that is tough because it depends on gettign tangible data which is often not easy to do especially when you are not working at it for years and just for less then a year's time.
I didn't want to pursue research because it took me a year to figure out what we were doing and actually be a helpful member in the group. At the end of three years, I was able to get 3 pubs (1 3rd, 2 2nd). Also when I interviewed at some schools, they looked down on research and preferred more community volunteering (e.g Boys and Girls Club) and what not. I am not ruling out research as a possibility. Jville what were the time commitments in your lab?
while I see your point, you know the interview matter of asking such questions is subjective on 2 grounds:
1. open file interviews ask about your experiences that are listed on your app. They are going to determine their questions based on what they see.
2. schools that are research based will obviously ask such questions.
3. a person might have had research before doing this masters and might have decided already that research isn't what they want to do. So saying that it will help you answer why medicine rather then research is moot point. I can already answer that question quite a bit.
Definitely what makes you stand out will be asked in an interview, but if you are telling everyone to do research, how will it really make any one stand it out if they all start doing such. I'm sure if they really want to do it they can do so, but from my talking with various other people I don't think it is the make or break you of the application.
I think its important to consider what interests you, what you can talk about with enthusiasm, and fix whatever is weak in your application and that may be different from person to person. If they are extremely weak on clinical work they should probably fix that. If they feel research will be beneficial then they should do that. Really you guys talk to a real advisor in the med school i.e. Leila Amiri, Dr. Koehler, etc. before you take any advice because I've been told the exact opposite about the value of research by adcom members in USF and UCF's REL. It really also depends on where you are applying. Some schools like UF will really value a name on an abstract or poster or presentation at a national conference or publications. Some will not care as much.
Anyone else doing the online program? I just got my acceptance today.