University of Arizona - Tucson & Phoenix Class of 2014

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Brrooother said:
Aaahhhh, Mad beat me!! :eek:
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Hahahah, looks like we both have some time on our hands. I love capstone weeks.
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Brrooother said:
going on a ski trip up to Flagstaff this weekend (Capstone ROCKS!!).
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What!?!?!? I am super jealous! I just got new snowboard boots, but with school starting again I don't think I am going to be able to go snowboarding again this season! :(

Have a blast for me, please!

Brrooother said:
It may sound a bit sad, but while I have kept a few really close friends from pre-med school days, medical school can be pretty isolating and it's likely you'll lose touch with some people.
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I think this is pretty common for many life changing events. I don't talk to anyone I went to high school with, and I haven't since I started college. Part of it is that many of them barely graduated high school, so we wound up growing apart. I don't really consider it to be sad or bad or anything negative really. It gave me the opportunity to continue to grow as a person. I would guess that if I was still hanging out with the same people from high school, I would be doing the same stuff I did in high school, and that means I would never have even come close to applying to medical school let alone getting accepted.

Brrooother said:
Oh, and I could REALLY talk more about how great the students are at COM-Phx, but I'm trying to be respectful and avoid the Phx-Tucson war! I think both schools have similar atmospheres - positive, etc, but I just like how we interact (and become friends) with everyone in our class quite equally (our schedules are strategically set up this way!), which I think is more difficult in a class of over one hundred. And, all I heard as a pre-med from students in Tucson is that Phoenix is the boring, older student campus where all the med students have lives outside the school and don't hang out together - which couldn't be further from the truth! But it's fine, it's apparently a nicely-kept secret that perhaps attracts some unique and creative personalities that mesh well. ;)
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Its good to finally see ONE Phoenix person be respectful! Jk!!! :p:D:cool::banana:
 
MadEvans said:
They have done a U of A phx vs. U of A tucson med vs. U of A tucson pharm vs. U of A tucson nursing half marathon before. The top 10 times from each class is compared at the end to determine the winner.
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I would be concerned about the pharm students taking performance enhancing drugs. You know they know exactly what to take...
 
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mmmcdowe said:
Shame on any ASU undergrad (cough irk cough) that is going to the non-Phoenix U of A campus. May border patrol strip search your car on the way to Tuscon!
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I can honestly say going down to wildcat country was one of the toughest parts about my decision to go to the Tucson campus. My wife and I are die-hard ASU fans. We get season tickets to football every year, and even through med school my wife will be driving up for all the home games (I hope I can make at least a couple each season). I know that a part of me will feel dirty the entire time I am down in Tucson, but that should show you how strongly I feel about my fit at the Tucson campus. Still, I am pissed that I am going to have to strip my car of my ASU decals, so I don't have to worry about any UA hooligans vandalizing my car...

One potentially weird thing is that I am quite interested in sports medicine which could lead to me interacting with UA athletes...oh well, I am a big boy so I can put my undergrad allegiance behind me for my medical education. Plus, there is a world of difference between professional school and undergrad, but that certainly took me awhile to come to grips with.
 
Well, I just declined my offer of acceptance from Saint Louis School of Medicine, so I guess that means I am that much more locked in to attending UA-Tucson. That was my first voluntary with draw from a school I had been accepted too, and it was harder to break-up with a school that wanted me than I thought it would be.
 
lrkoehle said:
Well, I just declined my offer of acceptance from Saint Louis School of Medicine, so I guess that means I am that much more locked in to attending UA-Tucson. That was my first voluntary with draw from a school I had been accepted too, and it was harder to break-up with a school that wanted me than I thought it would be.
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It is hard! I feel like a jerk when I turn down interview invites, too. Especially when a few months ago I felt like I was begging for just someone... anyone... to like me enough to offer me an acceptance. I never really expected to be the one doing the rejecting!
 
Salt and Lime said:
It is hard! I feel like a jerk when I turn down interview invites, too. Especially when a few months ago I felt like I was begging for just someone... anyone... to like me enough to offer me an acceptance. I never really expected to be the one doing the rejecting!
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I was thinking the exact same thing! I remember at the start of this cycle being excited and nervous and wanting so badly to get an interview invite. Now I am so sick of interviewing that even if I wasn't broke I still wouldn't go on another one. Now here I sit turning down acceptances, it just feels weird.

It is actually kind of frustrating looking back over this cycle. I have to admit that I only applied to UA because it was my state school. I really thought back in June that there was no way I wanted to go there, especially not in Tucson. Then I went on my interview and loved it. I don't know what I was thinking back in June, but I wish I knew then what I know now. If I did I would have only applied to UA and one other school (not to be named here), and I could have saved a couple thousand dollars. Damn hindsight with your 20/20 view of the past...+pissed+
 
lrkoehle said:
Well, I just declined my offer of acceptance from Saint Louis School of Medicine, so I guess that means I am that much more locked in to attending UA-Tucson. That was my first voluntary with draw from a school I had been accepted too, and it was harder to break-up with a school that wanted me than I thought it would be.
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Yeah, I turned down St. Louis as well, which was really hard - I actually really like SLU and LOVED the doctor I interviewed with. I think I apologized profusely in that email - I'm sure they just discarded it immediately though, haha!

It's hard, but it's a good position to be in!
 
Brrooother said:
Yeah, I turned down St. Louis as well, which was really hard - I actually really like SLU and LOVED the doctor I interviewed with. I think I apologized profusely in that email - I'm sure they just discarded it immediately though, haha!

It's hard, but it's a good position to be in!
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I really liked everyone I interacted with at SLU too (same at both UA campuses). To make matters more complicated my brother-in-law's wife is a fourth year at SLU, so I have heard loads of good stuff about SLU for a few years now. I know I am very fortunate to be in this "difficult" position, so no whining from me.

Oh well, back on topic UA-Tucson>>>>UA-Phoenix!!! Take that MadEvans! Wait, that's not the topic either...

This thread will only get better as soon as the campuses start accepting SDNers again. MadEvans, maybe you can talk to some one about that?
 
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mmmcdowe said:
President Crow gave me permissions.:laugh: He used to be Executive Provost here so its actually funny how many of my professors know him personally.
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"Can I please, please, please go to the college of P&S?"

"Well. I guess so. But, only because they used to employ me."

"Phew."
 
lrkoehle said:
UA-Tucson<<<<UA-Phoenix!!!

MadEvans, maybe you can talk to some one about that?
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Fixed.

There's danger in accepting an SDN addict to your medical school. I mean, having a mouthy pro-UA student (or two, I'm looking at you broother) is bad enough :rolleyes:...
 
MadEvans said:
*Cough Mayo Cough*
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You caught me...but even if I got accepted there, it would be a tough decision for me to choose between that school and UA. There are certainly positives and negatives about each, and I don't know which I would actually end up choosing.

MadEvans said:
Fixed.

There's danger in accepting an SDN addict to your medical school. I mean, having a mouthy pro-UA student (or two, I'm looking at you broother) is bad enough :rolleyes:...
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I could see that become an issue...you'd have everyone in lecture not paying attention, just checking SDN.
 
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I just withdrew from University of Iowa. That means UA-Tucson is the only acceptance I'm still holding on to! :D
 
I have a question about the classes at UA-Tucson. When do students take anatomy? Does that fall under the "foundations" block, or is it part of musculoskeletal system (even though that is only a four week block)? Also, what is the "advanced topics" block at the end of second year?

Here is a link to the block structure: http://www.medicine.arizona.edu/pdf_files/IntegratedBlockStructure.pdf
 
OK, so this will be my fourth post in a row on this thread, but oh well. I managed to find online the academic calendar for the Tucson campus for next year.

http://www.omse.medicine.arizona.edu/catalog/Calendars/1011 cal/year 1.pdf

Looks like Orientation will be July 29th, and classes officially starting Aug. 2! I'll keep digging around the website to see if I can find anything else I find interesting for those of you out there who care (which seems to be no one...:()
 
I was just checking out the MS-III schedule for next year (yes, I know I'm getting ahead of myself!), and I saw that after most blocks they have an "intersession." Is that basically time off in between rotations? I also saw that they have four weeks built in for an elective rotation in the spring, which I must say is awesome!

Here's the link to the MS-III schedule: http://www.omse.medicine.arizona.edu/catalog/Calendars/1011 cal/year 3.pdf

Hell, here is the link to all of the schedules for this year and next year: http://www.omse.medicine.arizona.edu/catalog/Calendars/0910 cal/calendar.html
 
Well, I am holding my office hours for the lab I TA, and as always, no one has showed up. So what am I doing about it? I'm killing time by exploring the UA-COM website in more detail.

In keeping with my pattern of looking way too far ahead, I found some cool stuff about the electives offered at Phoenix and Tucson. There are some MS-II electives, which I guess isn't THAT far off. If you have a specialty you are interested in, you can explore the links below and see if they have a MS-II elective for you. They did for me...

Phoenix electives: http://electives.medicine.arizona.edu/phoenix-electives

Tucson electives: http://electives.medicine.arizona.edu/tucson
 
MadEvans said:
Argh, you're distracting me, lrk! Whenever I get on that site I always spend hours just looking through all of the different descriptions, locations, etc. Always interesting, though... reminds you why it's so important to not slack off on your clinical training even in your 1st and 2nd years.
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Sorry for the distraction :oops:

I think I spent a couple hours looking through all the awesome electives. Well, not all of them, because there is A LOT of them, but I looked through a bunch of them. I think its important for those considering/planning on attending UA to take a look at these in addition the the regular curriculum, because these electives can add a unique twist on the med school experience. I found a second year elective I plan on taking, and I don't know that I would be able to get that sort of experience at any other school in the country (or at least not at the schools I applied to).

Dang it, the more I research UA the more excited I get about going here next year! Consequently, I get less and less motivated to do anything for any of my remaining classes this semester...heck, I did not even go to class yesterday at all. I'm starting to think that MadEvans had the right idea waiting until May to get accepted. :p jk, jk. LOLZ, ROTFLMAO, TTYL, QKRVZ.
 
lrkoehle said:
I was just looking through the student clubs and saw five or so that I thought sounded interesting. I know it varies, but how many clubs do people get involved with?

link for other incoming UA students: http://studentaffairs.medicine.arizona.edu/StudGovClubs.html
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I'm really involved with one club: planning, getting speakers to come and talk, requesting funding, etc. Of the other clubs, I sometimes attend meetings, events, or go to presentations.

I like it this way so I can get the leadership experience from the club I'm most involved with, but still get the exposure to other specialty interest groups and programs but not have to devote too much time to them.

Small class size really allows you to get leadership experience since the clubs are also small. I'm thinking about forming a new and very exclusive club here in Phx, too... the 'accepted off of the waitlist' club. Kids like lrk aren't invited, obviously.
 
MadEvans said:
I'm really involved with one club: planning, getting speakers to come and talk, requesting funding, etc. Of the other clubs, I sometimes attend meetings, events, or go to presentations.

I like it this way so I can get the leadership experience from the club I'm most involved with, but still get the exposure to other specialty interest groups and programs but not have to devote too much time to them.

Small class size really allows you to get leadership experience since the clubs are also small. I'm thinking about forming a new and very exclusive club here in Phx, too... the 'accepted off of the waitlist' club. Kids like lrk aren't invited, obviously.
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Also, I like your approach to involvement in clubs, and I will probably copy you.
 
MadEvans said:
Oh yeah, almost forgot. phx :highfive: tuc

After all, I wouldn't have anyone to shoot the U of A SDN breeze with without you lrk.
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:thumbup: We must be the two most active UA posters (well, I'm not technically at UA yet, but you get the idea). I think like 90% of the posts on here are from either you or me. I thought with more acceptances going out this might change, but apparently not :shrug:

What block are you in right now MadE? Actually, if you wouldn't mind, could you tell us (i.e. me) how your first few block have gone and what you think of them? Any complaints?
 
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I just submitted my FAFSA. They said my estimated family contribution is zero, which is very accurate. I guess that should help me get the maximum amount of loans. Anyone know how long it will take for them to get back to us about financial aid?
 
lrkoehle said:
:thumbup: We must be the two most active UA posters (well, I'm not technically at UA yet, but you get the idea). I think like 90% of the posts on here are from either you or me. I thought with more acceptances going out this might change, but apparently not :shrug:

What block are you in right now MadE? Actually, if you wouldn't mind, could you tell us (i.e. me) how your first few block have gone and what you think of them? Any complaints?
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I've done our biochemistry block (called Molecular Basis of Life and Disease), which included immunology, and neurosceince so far. We just started cardio-pulmo-renal and we'll be in that for the next 11 weeks or so.

Biochemistry block was really interesting. Each and every day seemed like a new undergrad, upper division bio course. You went over everything you remembered from taking the class (if you did) and hit some of the other main points. It was extremely general (apart from immunology) and a good introduction to med school since that was the type of material that most people were already used to.

Immunology was SOO HARD. So hard. To learn immuno, you first have to learn how to speak a foreign language, immunologese I call it. Then, you have to memorize a million different things (cytokines, etc). And by the time they are ready to test you, you have to put everything together, re-learn it since you couldn't speak the language in the beginning, and finally memorize everything. We have one professor, a harvard/yale MD/PhD derm/immuno specialist, that we all hated in the beginning. But, by the time we learned the language and started with memorizing the necessary pieces to finally understand the whole picture, we all loved her. I can't imagine trying to actually learn immuno without a stickler/genius lecturer like her.

Neuro was fun, and really challenging. I was involved in neuro research at the time, too, so it really supplemented what I learned in class. That's also the beauty of P/F, to me. Since getting an A isn't the most important thing, you can take some time for yourself, or do research or some other extracurric, and not have to worry TOO MUCH about memorizing all of the minutiae they expect you to. The way I see it, getting some research experience or other experience is going to be more beneficial in the end than an A over a B or C. I just hope I know the minutiae well enough for step 1... :) But, yeah, neuro was a blast, I loved it. It's stuff I never had even really heard of before, so it was really interesting.

That said, I need to catch up on cardio since I missed a lot of class this week. :eek:
 
MadEvans said:
I've done our biochemistry block (called Molecular Basis of Life and Disease), which included immunology, and neurosceince so far. We just started cardio-pulmo-renal and we'll be in that for the next 11 weeks or so.

Biochemistry block was really interesting. Each and every day seemed like a new undergrad, upper division bio course. You went over everything you remembered from taking the class (if you did) and hit some of the other main points. It was extremely general (apart from immunology) and a good introduction to med school since that was the type of material that most people were already used to.

Immunology was SOO HARD. So hard. To learn immuno, you first have to learn how to speak a foreign language, immunologese I call it. Then, you have to memorize a million different things (cytokines, etc). And by the time they are ready to test you, you have to put everything together, re-learn it since you couldn't speak the language in the beginning, and finally memorize everything. We have one professor, a harvard/yale MD/PhD derm/immuno specialist, that we all hated in the beginning. But, by the time we learned the language and started with memorizing the necessary pieces to finally understand the whole picture, we all loved her. I can't imagine trying to actually learn immuno without a stickler/genius lecturer like her.

Neuro was fun, and really challenging. I was involved in neuro research at the time, too, so it really supplemented what I learned in class. That's also the beauty of P/F, to me. Since getting an A isn't the most important thing, you can take some time for yourself, or do research or some other extracurric, and not have to worry TOO MUCH about memorizing all of the minutiae they expect you to. The way I see it, getting some research experience or other experience is going to be more beneficial in the end than an A over a B or C. I just hope I know the minutiae well enough for step 1... :) But, yeah, neuro was a blast, I loved it. It's stuff I never had even really heard of before, so it was really interesting.

That said, I need to catch up on cardio since I missed a lot of class this week. :eek:
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Thanks for the overview of your classes! Did you not take an anatomy course, or is that squeezed in there too?

Why are you missing classes? Too many hangovers from goin' clubbin' all week?
 
MadEvans said:
I've done our biochemistry block (called Molecular Basis of Life and Disease), which included immunology, and neurosceince so far. We just started cardio-pulmo-renal and we'll be in that for the next 11 weeks or so.

Biochemistry block was really interesting. Each and every day seemed like a new undergrad, upper division bio course. You went over everything you remembered from taking the class (if you did) and hit some of the other main points. It was extremely general (apart from immunology) and a good introduction to med school since that was the type of material that most people were already used to.

Immunology was SOO HARD. So hard. To learn immuno, you first have to learn how to speak a foreign language, immunologese I call it. Then, you have to memorize a million different things (cytokines, etc). And by the time they are ready to test you, you have to put everything together, re-learn it since you couldn't speak the language in the beginning, and finally memorize everything. We have one professor, a harvard/yale MD/PhD derm/immuno specialist, that we all hated in the beginning. But, by the time we learned the language and started with memorizing the necessary pieces to finally understand the whole picture, we all loved her. I can't imagine trying to actually learn immuno without a stickler/genius lecturer like her.

Neuro was fun, and really challenging. I was involved in neuro research at the time, too, so it really supplemented what I learned in class. That's also the beauty of P/F, to me. Since getting an A isn't the most important thing, you can take some time for yourself, or do research or some other extracurric, and not have to worry TOO MUCH about memorizing all of the minutiae they expect you to. The way I see it, getting some research experience or other experience is going to be more beneficial in the end than an A over a B or C. I just hope I know the minutiae well enough for step 1... :) But, yeah, neuro was a blast, I loved it. It's stuff I never had even really heard of before, so it was really interesting.

That said, I need to catch up on cardio since I missed a lot of class this week. :eek:
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So true guys. Residency directors don't care about doing well in your pre-clinicals, they just care that you didn't do poorly. Why have that anxiety over your head? 3rd year grades in your specialty are the key.
 
Do any current students know if there are any links on the UA medical website for housing? I don't really know where to begin searching. I'm not familiar with the Tucson area, but my wife and I don't want to be too close to the university campus (because undergrads are annoying).

mmmcdowe said:
So true guys. Residency directors don't care about doing well in your pre-clinicals, they just care that you didn't do poorly. Why have that anxiety over your head? 3rd year grades in your specialty are the key.
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:thumbup: This agrees with the things I've read about residency too. The thing to keep in mind is that the reason pre-clinical course grades don't matter is because step-I reflects your learning during those years, so don't just pass, learn everything you can (medical students should obviously know that).
 
lrkoehle said:
Thanks for the overview of your classes! Did you not take an anatomy course, or is that squeezed in there too?

Why are you missing classes? Too many hangovers from goin' clubbin' all week?
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Oh, yeah, that whole anatomy thing. I got B's in my undergrad anatomy courses, and stayed pretty consistent in med school. I'm not the best memorizer/factoid conglomerator, and that's exactly what anatomy is. I'm better with the whole "big picture" and "clinical correlation" stuff, so I struggled with anatomy. But, that said, our anatomy professors were amazing. The new facility in the medical examiner's office was cool too. Really modern (LCD monitors above every donor), the vents ensured that it never smelled too terribly of formalin, and the lecturing/dissecting off and on for three hours twice per week really promoted active learning. It still required a ton of time memorizing outside of class (which was tough since we were doing MBLD or Neuro at the same time).

My only complaint is that our room in the medical examiner's office is a little bit cramped. With 50+ chairs, 8 horizontal bodies, and 50+ students/TAs/instructors/etc, the room seemed pretty small. The awesome thing was, our instructor always ensured we had a clinician there during class to answer our clinical questions. We had orthopods there during the extremity labs, ENT surgeons when we were in head and neck, and CT surgeons/other clinicians throughout the mediastinum/abdomen/pelvis sections. It was really fun and exciting, but part of me is glad that its over. Those tests are soooo information heavy, and I had a tough time keeping all that information in my head for more than a day.
 
MadEvans said:
Oh, yeah, that whole anatomy thing. I got B's in my undergrad anatomy courses, and stayed pretty consistent in med school.
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I never took an actual anatomy class in undergrad. I know med schools like to think they will be able to teach you everything you need to know, but do you think that will be a disadvantage? Not that I really care about being at a disadvantage, I just kind of want to get an idea of where I might expect to be.
 
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I never took an actual anatomy class in undergrad. I know med schools like to think they will be able to teach you everything you need to know, but do you think that will be a disadvantage? Not that I really care about being at a disadvantage, I just kind of want to get an idea of where I might expect to be.
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Nah, you'll be fine. Most of the people at my table hadn't taken an anatomy class before coming to med school either.
 
I am going to Tucson... that was a tough call, but I am happy ^_^
 
LiveTheMoment said:
I am going to Tucson... that was a tough call, but I am happy ^_^
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I was pulling for you ltm...

But, enjoy yourself and don't let anyone tell you that you made the wrong decision (even me). :D

Here's a recent UA article I liked and posted to my facebook. It's actually probably more appropriate for me to post it here.

http://uanews.org/node/29845
 
MadEvans said:
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I was pulling for you ltm...

But, enjoy yourself and don't let anyone tell you that you made the wrong decision (even me). :D

Here's a recent UA article I liked and posted to my facebook. It's actually probably more appropriate for me to post it here.

http://uanews.org/node/29845
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Thank you... I think Phoenix is wonderful, trust me. You have incredible resources and great people on your campus.
 
LiveTheMoment said:
I am going to Tucson... that was a tough call, but I am happy ^_^
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Congrats, LiveTheMoment! You'll love it! It was a hard decision for me as well, but the relief afterward was HUGE - I'll bet this is how you feel now :D
 
LiveTheMoment said:
I am going to Tucson... that was a tough call, but I am happy ^_^
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Glad to see you made the right decision :p jk, jk. Its such a tough decision to have to make, and then you throw in the whole 2 week time limit and it becomes damn near impossible. I almost wish the two campuses were more distinct from each other. At least then the decision wouldn't be so hard.

Do any of the current students think its possible to convince admissions that this is not the best policy, and to maybe change it? I know I've heard that Phoenix is very receptive to student input, but I didn't know if this was something they would listen to.

So LTM, are you for sure going to be down in Tucson next year, or are you still holding onto or waiting for some other acceptances to come in that might take you away?
 
Irk, good call on Tucson. Liked it there much more than Phoenix.
 
MadEvans said:
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I was pulling for you ltm...

But, enjoy yourself and don't let anyone tell you that you made the wrong decision (even me). :D

Here's a recent UA article I liked and posted to my facebook. It's actually probably more appropriate for me to post it here.

http://uanews.org/node/29845
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That's awesome news in that article MadE. How long do they expect construction to take though? It sounds like a massive project that will take awhile. It is really good to see that they have the funding in place for an expansion now. I still think a hospital directly connected to the medical school (even if by underground, high-speed (~45 MPH) moving sidewalks) would be a very good addition.
 
thamsenman said:
Irk, good call on Tucson. Liked it there much more than Phoenix.
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I ended up liking Tucson more than Phoenix too (hence my going there), but for me I wouldn't say I liked it "much more" than Phoenix. Both campuses have their positives and many, many similarities, so it made for a tough choice (at least for me).

Did you interview at both campuses? I didn't see them in your MDapps.
 
I actually withdrew from UA, but yeah I interviewed there. Once I got into StonyBrook, I gave up my spots.

I'm trying to keep my mdapps simple, don't want too much clutter (too lazy too to add the schools I interviewed at)
 
lrkoehle said:
Glad to see you made the right decision :p jk, jk. Its such a tough decision to have to make, and then you throw in the whole 2 week time limit and it becomes damn near impossible. I almost wish the two campuses were more distinct from each other. At least then the decision wouldn't be so hard.

Do any of the current students think its possible to convince admissions that this is not the best policy, and to maybe change it? I know I've heard that Phoenix is very receptive to student input, but I didn't know if this was something they would listen to.

So LTM, are you for sure going to be down in Tucson next year, or are you still holding onto or waiting for some other acceptances to come in that might take you away?
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I am 90% sure I will choose Tucson no matter what. That being said, 10% chance I may choose Duke if they accept me... I love their program, but the cost is prohibitive.
 
LiveTheMoment said:
I am 90% sure I will choose Tucson no matter what. That being said, 10% chance I may choose Duke if they accept me... I love their program, but the cost is prohibitive.
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Looks like we're in a somewhat similar situation, except you're probably much more likely to get into to Duke than I am to get in off of the waitlist at Mayo. Its probably better that way any how. It will save me the stress of deciding where to go...

As for cost, I say go with the cheaper option, unless they're really close. To me, unless you can strongly say that you will be a better doctor for paying thousands and thousands of extra dollars plus interest to go to one school over another, its just no worth it. I am slightly biased because I don't think the suit makes the man, any more than the school makes the doctor. It comes down to you no matter where you go.
 
lrkoehle said:
As for cost, I say go with the cheaper option, unless they're really close. To me, unless you can strongly say that you will be a better doctor for paying thousands and thousands of extra dollars plus interest to go to one school over another, its just no worth it. I am slightly biased because I don't think the suit makes the man, any more than the school makes the doctor. It comes down to you no matter where you go.
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It's not necessarily paying thousands of extra dollars to "be a better doctor." In my case, it's paying thousands of extra dollars to be at a school that fits my personality better and where I will be happier for the next 4 years of my life. I think that the school you attend really does matter, to the extent that a program that "fits" you better will help maintain your motivation and make learning the material easier. But all other things being equal, if it's a choice between cheap vs. prestigious, I'd go with cheap.

Incidentally, I'm probably going to turn down "prestigious, cheaper, but not a good fit" for "more expensive, virtually unknown outside the region, but the perfect fit for me."
 
Salt and Lime said:
It's not necessarily paying thousands of extra dollars to "be a better doctor." In my case, it's paying thousands of extra dollars to be at a school that fits my personality better and where I will be happier for the next 4 years of my life. I think that the school you attend really does matter, to the extent that a program that "fits" you better will help maintain your motivation and make learning the material easier. But all other things being equal, if it's a choice between cheap vs. prestigious, I'd go with cheap.

Incidentally, I'm probably going to turn down "prestigious, cheaper, but not a good fit" for "more expensive, virtually unknown outside the region, but the perfect fit for me."
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I guess I should have qualified my statement with the importance of fit. If you truly feel like the fit is significantly better at one school over another, then go there even if the cost is better. To me, fit relates to your psychological well-being which cannot be underestimated. If you're miserable, it doesn't matter where you are, you will have a hard time succeeding.

Lucky for us AZ residents, we have two great campuses with great curriculum, grading system, electives, etc., so this isn't as big of an issue for us (this is obviously my biased opinion :D).

S&L, what's the "prestigious, cheaper, but not good fit" school. If you don't mind my asking, but if you prefer to not say, that's fine too. I'm just curious now...
 
lrkoehle said:
That's awesome news in that article MadE. How long do they expect construction to take though? It sounds like a massive project that will take awhile. It is really good to see that they have the funding in place for an expansion now. I still think a hospital directly connected to the medical school (even if by underground, high-speed (~45 MPH) moving sidewalks) would be a very good addition.
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Hahahahaha.

Your underground, high-speed moving sidewalks idea is brilliant. Hopefully we can fit either that, or teleporters - once they are invented, into the budget.

As for your other questions, I'm not too sure. It definitely sounds like a 3-5+ year project.
 
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