I'll be retaking it...
Did you use the full 16 weeks, and/or the extension they offer? Yeah...no I totally get how hard UNECOM courses are. Their biochemistry course destroyed me...probably should re-take it. lol
I'll be retaking it...
Did you use the full 16 weeks, and/or the extension they offer? Yeah...no I totally get how hard UNECOM courses are. Their biochemistry course destroyed me...probably should re-take it. lol
@Two Sides
How was organic II? Was it easy? I am debating on taking it at the college I am currently attending or doing it through UNE. Your thoughts and anyone's else are appreciated.
help please! Can anyone who has taken online pre-req's through unecom let me know how the course shows up on your transcript at the end? In other words, will AAMCOS be able to tell that it was taken online? I'm looking to retake bio for grade replacement online, all my other pre-req's were completed at my university. I'm slightly concerned that it says "medical biology" through unecom, and that it won't be able to actually replace my biology grade from undergrad because it's not an identical course. Thank you!!!
help please! Can anyone who has taken online pre-req's through unecom let me know how the course shows up on your transcript at the end? In other words, will AAMCOS be able to tell that it was taken online? I'm looking to retake bio for grade replacement online, all my other pre-req's were completed at my university. I'm slightly concerned that it says "medical biology" through unecom, and that it won't be able to actually replace my biology grade from undergrad because it's not an identical course. Thank you!!!
@Two Sides
Did you contact schools that might have a problem with doing pre-requisites through UNE. I am strongly leaning towards taking O Chem II lecture through UNE.
Has anyone who has taken Physics I with lab at UNECOM, let me know how difficult it is please? and how long it took you to finish?
Has anyone who has taken Physics I with lab at UNECOM, let me know how difficult it is please? and how long it took you to finish?
It's really expensive. Lots of community colleges and universities offer physics I online. Unless you need the self paced format, I would look elsewhere.
I've taken organic 2 from UNE, and thought it was pretty easy. I'm taking organic 1 as a retake, and it's so much harder than my in-class course. If you browse this thread, most people complain about the difficulty of various courses. That being said, I would seriously consider taking physics in-class due to partial credit shown for math.
what do you mean to due to partial credit for math? you mean on the exams? since they are multiple choice?
any ideas. i've checked state universities here and community colleges and can't find any online physics courses.
Off the top of my head I can think of Dallas Community College and Northern Virginia Community College.
re UNE as an asinine entity, here is a sample quiz question:
So this question spans all of glycogenlysis, gluconeogenesis, glycolysis, including minor enzymes that catalyze intermediates. It also tests the effect of hormones on those systems.
It then tests you - on minor enzymes covering 3 gigantic, conditional pathways - whether these enzymes are activated or inactivated by phosphorylation.
There's not much intuition here - just brute force of wrote memorization of what's activated or inactivated by phosphorylation. On a series of interrelated pathways that cover about 100 products, intermediates, and enzymes.
This is about par for the course, and testing in this manner is completely - utterly - totally stupid. Unless you're trying to hand out a 2.5 in an attempt to gain credibility with medical schools, but doing so in a very underhanded way
If curved no big deal, but I heard they've stopped curving...lols
Medical Biology should be able to replace Principles of Biology because it is equivalent in content and the number of credit hours. I don't believe it states anywhere on a transcript that it is an online course.
NYITCOM stated they won't take online courses, but I never mentioned UNE. PCOM said they accept online courses, but it will make you less competitive (don't know how true this is). Most schools don't care at all.
I have all my pre-reqs completed at my university. I'm interested in retaking medical bio online for grade replacement. I'm wondering if it's worth it.A lot of schools will not let you take core classes online anymore. They are cutting down really bad.
3-4 weeks, max. But more than half of your time will be spent on ecology.
I have all my pre-reqs completed at my university. I'm interested in retaking medical bio online for grade replacement. I'm wondering if it's worth it.
Some kid from Harvard, some kid from Uconn, some guy from a CC some kid from UNE.
Each has a 3.6.
Which are you going to take?
Harvard>Uconn>CC>>>>>>>>>>>>>UNE
For a grade replacement to work, AACOMAS says that the course must have the same name and represent the same amount of credits. If you took Bio and are trying to replace it with medical bio, then idk if that will work.I have all my pre-reqs completed at my university. I'm interested in retaking medical bio online for grade replacement. I'm wondering if it's worth it.
3-4 weeks max? Maybe it's because I haven't taken a science class in years but I think I'll need about 12 weeks (I'm enrolled in Bio now). Are you actually reading through each chapter? I find the lectures to be totally useless. Not asking in a snarky way, just looking to maximize my time and actually learn. I would love any advice on how to do this faster (from anyone). Usually I can listen to lectures, skim the book and knock it out. But I find myself having to read with a different level of depth here. Do you guys just use the Connect stuff to study?3-4 weeks, max. But more than half of your time will be spent on ecology.
Some kid from Harvard, some kid from Uconn, some guy from a CC some kid from UNE.
Each has a 3.6.
Which are you going to take?
Harvard>Uconn>CC>>>>>>>>>>>>>UNE
I have all my pre-reqs completed at my university. I'm interested in retaking medical bio online for grade replacement. I'm wondering if it's worth it.
Where is the cost listed on harvard's website? I clicked the cost link and nothing showed up. Also, une is 330 per credit WITH the lab, I called earlier today. You are correct about UC berkeley, however- I didn't know berkeley was an option, and it is indeed slightly cheaper than UNE (comes out to $316 per credit as opposed to UNE's $330).They're more than Harvard Extension's in person courses with full labs.
http://www.extension.harvard.edu/ac...gy/13096?_ga=1.104109952.165449012.1478306769
They're 150% more than UCBx's in person and online:
http://extension.berkeley.edu/search/publicCourseSearchDetails.do?method=load&courseId=41566
They're treble (300%) UT Austin's extension in person and online:
http://cie.austin.utexas.edu/uex-cm/courses/fundamentals-biochemistry?sku=17269124
And in return you get instruction that'd get insta-fired at any of those institutions, harsh grading, referred to youtube for content based questions, and less than 40% acceptance among MD. I appreciate that there are situations where using them is appropriate, but those situations are few and far between - notably that you're in Iraq and someone else is paying for it. Otherwise, take it at a community college, which is cheaper and more widely accepted, and often where instructional quality is higher than you'd expect.
This may have been posted earlier, but is it possible to take a series of courses during the same semester? I know it is a lot of work, but I was hoping to take Organic I,II. I looked on their website under FAQ's but I didn't find an answer.
Organic Chem II
Well, I'm not sure how I stumbled upon this website, but I really appreciate everyone's input for this class. I am starting an accelerated RN program in SD in January and the pre-reqs for the state I'm living in are entirely different, so now I'm trying to complete them with a very limited amount of time. I only had to take intro to chem I for programs in CO, and I originally graduated with a BA, so I have no science background whatsoever. I applied to the program late, and they happened to have one spot left-all of the stars aligned except for pre-req for this class. Somehow, they magically erased the requirement for organic chem I for me, and they will use my intro as its replacement...? So, just to recap-in org chem ii with no prior knowledge of org chem i-fun stuff. I'm gearing up to take the midterm, but so far weeks 1-6 have been like a completely foreign language. I am using google to try and learn concepts, and I don't find that reading the spectroscopy book is helping much, because I don't understand it anyways. I'm able to work through the problems, but I'm also working full time and taking 12 other credits in order to start in Jan. I know this site is for future doctors, but I thought I'd share the info with anyone else out there like me, who just read through 12 pages of threads looking for insight on testing structure.
A few questions:
I think I read somewhere that the 2nd half of the class gets easier-is this true for anyone who's completed recently?
I didn't have the option to purchase a cd for the lab-is this all online now?
I also read somewhere that doing the lab wasn't necessary-does this hold true? How were you completing the quizzes?
If I have screen shots of the quizzes from the class up until this point, can I reference them in the ProctorU setting or do they only let you have class notes and book?
Thanks!
Awesome. So could you possibly sign up for both classes at once? Then take Orgo I first, and then follow up with Orgo II.When you register for the class, it simply asks if you have the prerequisites. Well, at least for Organic 1. You do not have to turn in a transcript or anything to prove that you do.
You might be able to, but since their classes start every two weeks, why risk being dropped? You could just sign up for the first one, and when you're almost done or done sign up for the second one. If you really need to be in both of them at the same time, I would email them to be sure its ok or ask for an exception. They are very responsive.Awesome. So could you possibly sign up for both classes at once? Then take Orgo I first, and then follow up with Orgo II.
Oh yea, I also saw that some people wereOrganic Chem II
Well, I'm not sure how I stumbled upon this website, but I really appreciate everyone's input for this class. I am starting an accelerated RN program in SD in January and the pre-reqs for the state I'm living in are entirely different, so now I'm trying to complete them with a very limited amount of time. I only had to take intro to chem I for programs in CO, and I originally graduated with a BA, so I have no science background whatsoever. I applied to the program late, and they happened to have one spot left-all of the stars aligned except for pre-req for this class. Somehow, they magically erased the requirement for organic chem I for me, and they will use my intro as its replacement...? So, just to recap-in org chem ii with no prior knowledge of org chem i-fun stuff. I'm gearing up to take the midterm, but so far weeks 1-6 have been like a completely foreign language. I am using google to try and learn concepts, and I don't find that reading the spectroscopy book is helping much, because I don't understand it anyways. I'm able to work through the problems, but I'm also working full time and taking 12 other credits in order to start in Jan. I know this site is for future doctors, but I thought I'd share the info with anyone else out there like me, who just read through 12 pages of threads looking for insight on testing structure.
A few questions:
I think I read somewhere that the 2nd half of the class gets easier-is this true for anyone who's completed recently?
I didn't have the option to purchase a cd for the lab-is this all online now?
I also read somewhere that doing the lab wasn't necessary-does this hold true? How were you completing the quizzes?
If I have screen shots of the quizzes from the class up until this point, can I reference them in the ProctorU setting or do they only let you have class notes and book?
Thanks!
Thanks for the input, but unfortunately I'm so scientifically challenged, I'm not sure how to even distinguish between the two. If you're not completing the lab, how are you able to take the lab quizzes? It was my understanding that the questions are directly pulled from your results. I assume you took it recently-are the questions applied knowledge or mostly able to be pulled from the notes/book? Thanks for your fast response!!First half is nmr, mass spec, ir, etc. Second half is like a biochem survey course.
You download a software to perform the labs.
Lab isn't necessary, and lab quizzes/lecture quizzes are separate.
I guess you could screenshot the quizzes, but the questions aren't really similar.
Oh yea, I also saw that some people were
Thanks for the input, but unfortunately I'm so scientifically challenged, I'm not sure how to even distinguish between the two. If you're not completing the lab, how are you able to take the lab quizzes? It was my understanding that the questions are directly pulled from your results. I assume you took it recently-are the questions applied knowledge or mostly able to be pulled from the notes/book? Thanks for your fast response!!
A lot of schools will not let you take core classes online anymore. They are cutting down really bad.
I just finished Organic Chemistry 1 from UNE Online yesterday. I'll try and give you my honest take on it with info I was looking for before I took the class.
Course Info
Course: Organic Chemistry 1020 and 1020L (lab portion)
Instructor: Dr. Polly Ellerbe
Time Taken: August 3rd to November 6th, 2016 (13 1/2 weeks)
Book: Essential Organic Chemistry (Bruice), 2016 with Solutions Manual, Model Kit, and Online Pearson Access (extra practice homework)
Format
Lecture:
13 chapters of material, with one quiz per chapter
Mid-term exam after 6th chapter
Final exam after 13th chapter
Lab:
9 labs conducted through a virtual online lab (free with the class)
9 quizzes, one for each lab
Why I took this class
I work full time banker's hours, and my local community college didn't offer Organic Chem at night. UNE was the only option that I could find that was completely online with the lab. Lots of the other courses mentioned here require at least some in-person time. UNE was completely flexible within the 16 week time frame. After checking with the veterinary college I'm applying to and making sure they accepted this class, I enrolled.
Good:
With all the terrible reviews I've read on this thread and elsewhere online, I expected this to be horrific. All in all, I think, given my options, I would take it again. The new book, published this year, was actually very good. I went through every chapter, did every practice problem, and did most of the practice tests. I feel like I learned what was in the book very well.
The biggest "good" part of this class was my instructor. Dr. Ellerbe was absolutely awesome. Every question I had, every issue I had, she responded quickly and never dismissed me or my concerns. My #1 recommendation would be to take this class with her if you are going to take it with UNE.
There is also a generous curve applied to the end grade. I had an A in my quizzes, a B on my midterm, and a C on my final. Even with that, I ended up with an A in the class. I had an A in the lab portion without the curve, so I don't know what the curve would have been there.
Bad:
The biggest issue was the match-up between what you learned in the book and what was in the weekly tests. MULTIPLE times, I was asked questions on the tests that were NOT taught in the book. Other times, the tests wanted you to remember obscure details from week's prior in order to get the question right. It was extremely frustrating! The saving grace was my instructor. Every time I brought up a discrepancy, she went and checked the book and learning materials. The majority of the time, I was right, and she would give me points back on questions I had missed. A few times, she pointed to where I missed it and filled in my knowledge gaps. We came to the conclusion that, while the textbook had gotten an update, the tests had not, and that was causing the discrepancy. Frustrating to pay so much money for them to be lazy and not update their content!
The lab is pretty easy to conduct, but the quizzes are all over the place. Sometimes, they would be straightforward and test on what you did in the lab (i.e., how long did such-and-such reaction take to complete?). Other times, they would test "concepts" you were supposed to magically learn while doing the lab. Again, my instructor was very helpful in correcting my grade when I was "cheated" on points due to test errors.
Oh, and the lectures? They simply regurgitated material from the book, but in even more boring, monotone form. Maybe they would be useful for people who learn best by hearing, but for me, they were a waste of time.
My suggestions to do well
I hope this helps someone like me (well, me 3 months ago anyway). I am glad that I took it through UNE and will be taking the second semester through them as well.
- Read all the way through each chapter. Do all the questions, even at the end of the chapter.
- Try the lecture, but if it's not helping you, skip it. I didn't listen to any after week 2.
- Do the corresponding labs before you take the weekly quiz. They sometimes help cement ideas from the chapter in your brain.
- Take all the time you need on the quizzes. They're open book with no time limit. There is no excuse to do poorly (at least on your part!).
- Get ahead in the class and take the extra time for your midterm and final.
- Keep in touch with your instructor and talk through any issues. The worst they can do is ignore you, but at best they will bump your grade up when deserved.
Organic Chem 1 is much harder at UNE than it needs to be.
can you actually compare this to in-class lecture? Have you taken Organic Chem I at a school?
Thank you for the response. I sent an email earlier today and they told me my situation was normal. It looks as if I will finish Organic I and II next semester.You might be able to, but since their classes start every two weeks, why risk being dropped? You could just sign up for the first one, and when you're almost done or done sign up for the second one. If you really need to be in both of them at the same time, I would email them to be sure its ok or ask for an exception. They are very responsive.
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@Two Sides I think I've already determined the answer based on your posts, but would you say Organic 2 was easier than Organic 1?