My condolences, OP. I'm sure you realized immediately what a bad mistake you made. The stress/grieving you and your spouse are going through right now must be absolutely terrible.
I just read something in my local news that fits this story to a T.
I don't want to post the link for fear of worsening this former resident's life any more, but with publicity involved, I think OP may not be able to make it in clinical medicine.
If OP were an attending, then I think he could probably just have changed jobs & relocated to get the spotlight off of him, but getting another program to take a chance on him might be a lot harder (unless they are desperate to fill the position). If he can talk his PD into giving a good reference that will probably make a big difference.
Otherwise, it may be worth it to look at a career change.
Yeah, maybe your google fu is better than mine, but there's nothing on simple searches that fits the timeline.Yeah, the article isn't that hard to find. It does fit very well; the only reason I have my doubts is because the offense is so egregious that he would have to know his medical career is over, and he wouldn't come here asking for advice about finding another residency. The way that article was written, the resident will be fortunate to avoid prison time. Everyone is going to wonder how stable he is mentally and if he could do something again that would create a bigger news story and a serious lawsuit.
If it's not him, I hope the OP comes back to clear it up.
Yeah, maybe your google fu is better than mine, but there's nothing on simple searches that fits the timeline.
I found that one as well, with this being the best link describing the story, but it didn't seem to gel with the timeline. Perhaps the OP posted several weeks/a month after the incident though.The closest thing I could find that relates can be found by Google-ing 'syracuse camera doctor'. I don't want to post the link and may edit this post if OP requests or the article I'm inferring is wrong. If the article is the OP, I see the mistake and feel that you should fight it.
Yeah, the article isn't that hard to find. It does fit very well; the only reason I have my doubts is because the offense is so egregious that he would have to know his medical career is over, and he wouldn't come here asking for advice about finding another residency. The way that article was written, the resident will be fortunate to avoid prison time. Everyone is going to wonder how stable he is mentally and if he could do something again that would create a bigger news story and a serious lawsuit.
If it's not him, I hope the OP comes back to clear it up.
I think it's him. Hard to imagine multiple DOs in ACGME EM residencies got fired in th past couple weeks in such dramatic fashion.
just read the story....the syracuse guy is done. No way a residency director touches that situation. They are either a creep or so incapable of evaluating their own behavior that they could never be trusted.....if anything happened at the new program, the PD would never be able to look a judge or a reporter in the face and say, "I had no way of knowing"
Sounds like that ER doc that masturbated into a patient's face and claimed the semen got there because he masturbated right before the exam and didnt wash his hands before examining her....
OP your post is just ridiculous. I included all the BS parts.
You got a suspension letter one day and the next day a termination letter? No!
It's out of GME and PD's hands but all of the sudden the dean from the medical school drops a termination on you? Ha no! Not his/her jurisdiction! Problems are never out of GME and PD's hands. That's just funny.
Good one.
It's really hard to get fired from a residency...unless you do something like this.Well, we all wondered what sort of behavior would get you fired that fast. Whether or not he is the OP, this guy's behavior is an excellent example of what should get you fired. His alibi is so bizarre that, if its true, he committed a felony.
You are just totally wrong about this. Things can escalate beyond GME/PD easily.
Agreed.
In a similar vein, that Miami neuro resident who attacked an Uber driver is going to be terminated as well: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/downtown-miami/article73411022.html
So, yes....it can and does happen. Granted, it takes a LOT to make it happen but still...not impossible.
Agree. It may have just been a case of poor judgment, but that's the absolute best case scenario, and there's no way to spin that resident's actions as even slightly appropriate....which he obviously knew himself, since he originally lied about it when questioned by police.just read the story....the syracuse guy is done. No way a residency director touches that situation. They are either a creep or so incapable of evaluating their own behavior that they could never be trusted.....if anything happened at the new program, the PD would never be able to look a judge or a reporter in the face and say, "I had no way of knowing"
Agreed.
In a similar vein, that Miami neuro resident who attacked an Uber driver is going to be terminated as well: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/downtown-miami/article73411022.html
So, yes....it can and does happen. Granted, it takes a LOT to make it happen but still...not impossible.
strangely enough....being drunk off her head actually helps the doc in the uber case, America eventually forgives drunks. The camera doc is done.On top of the lack of judgement and responsibility, you can clearly see the self-entitlement. In fact I'd say the latter is at the forefront. If this is a medical student, it would require a very serious personal and professional development interview with the ethics board/dean; as a fourth-year resident however, I'd say suspension is warranted. In both cases, appropriate contrition and commitment to psychological intervention should be expected. Maturity is always paramount through the medical pathway, but as a fourth-year doctor that's just disappointing and inexcusable.
Agree. It may have just been a case of poor judgment, but that's the absolute best case scenario, and there's no way to spin that resident's actions as even slightly appropriate....which he obviously knew himself, since he originally lied about it when questioned by police.
OP, if this is you, in the future, if someone steals your stuff, you should file a police report instead of taking matters into your own hands....and in general, don't bring valuables to work and leave them unlocked.
she might be able to appeal this i would think...after all no charges were filed against her and it was an episode outside of the hospital and she wasn't on duty...sounds like she should have to undergo anger management or some sort of remediation...even if they ding her for being unprofessional, it seems that it could be a probation issue...but even if she finished being able to be employed somewhere would be difficult.
One can appeal anything just about, doesn't mean she'll win.
It's cool though she can probably have a reality TV career if she played her cards right. Looks just like a Kardashian.
Hadn't realized the article was about an EM resident. I'll concur with you that it's likely the OP.I think it's him. Hard to imagine multiple DOs in ACGME EM residencies got fired in th past couple weeks in such dramatic fashion.
You are just totally wrong about this. Things can escalate beyond GME/PD easily.
There is always the option, that OP could work as an assistant or office manager in her office. He could, with his background, be quite useful in that type of role Having a private practice with an intelligent spouse that is able to manage your business can increase productivity and profit dramatically, even if he wasn't doing the clinical decision making.
I know a number of physicians that have the spouse as an office manager and it seems to work quite well (as long as you get along).
the office manager is rarely the front desk clerk.having an MD work at the front desk of anything medical sounds like a bad idea
the reason is that there will still be patient contact and you will always be more "sue-able"
I'm assuming this was typed prior to the actual story being "guessed".....I wouldn't so much as have my spouse darken the door of my practice in this situation. I might forgive them. I might not leave them. I would 100% put some distance between them and my professional life.There is always the option, that OP could work as an assistant or office manager in her office. He could, with his background, be quite useful in that type of role Having a private practice with an intelligent spouse that is able to manage your business can increase productivity and profit dramatically, even if he wasn't doing the clinical decision making.
I know a number of physicians that have the spouse as an office manager and it seems to work quite well (as long as you get along).
he was trying to restrain her from further attacking him and damaging his property. she wasn't trying to flee. I'm completely supportive of his right to act how he didok, just got up to speed on the neuro resident video firing
lol... America forgives drunks. Yes it does. In fact, I already forgive this girl.
Looks like she started it, and sure, none of what she does is OK, but I would like to point out, how the heck did the guy end up outside the car and restraining her hands? sure she's drunk and belligerent, but that's exactly why that presumably sober dude shouldn't be laying hands on her
she walks off and he follows her!
granted, just because somebody "starts" with you, doesn't mean you should "finish" it, a lesson both the Uber driver and the resident clearly didn't have in mind
granted she's drunk, caught on tape, and had more to lose than he did, but seeing that dude grabbing her hands and shoving her just sat wrong with me
EDIT: did she put the dent in his car? if so whoa
still, I still don't know that you can then use that to justify physically restraining someone... my friend is a prosecutor, and he said the smart thing is to just leave to a safe location, you can't use vandalism or destruction of property as an excuse
he was trying to restrain her from further attacking him and damaging his property. she wasn't trying to flee. I'm completely supportive of his right to act how he did
Sounds like a story someone posted on SDN awhile ago, don't think it came from you. Sounds negligent, probably warrants a firing but I doubt that quickly. Depends on how deep in doo-doo he was prior to this incident.
I spend most of my day trying to figure out how to send patients off to other services or back to wherever the hell they came from.
Thought it might be this guy at first -- http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/lehigh-county/index.ssf/2016/04/ex-doctor_who_exposed_himself.html but have to agree it's probably potty-cam guy instead.
No shortage of poor judgement, it appears...
Hadn't realized the article was about an EM resident. I'll concur with you that it's likely the OP.
I cannot imagine reasoning for the spy-cam business, except perhaps the perpetrator (and not the people he was trying to catch) was the one misusing stimulants. Regardless, criminal charges have been filed, and he's screwed.
Thought it might be this guy at first -- http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/lehigh-county/index.ssf/2016/04/ex-doctor_who_exposed_himself.html but have to agree it's probably potty-cam guy instead.
No shortage of poor judgement, it appears...