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F this guy and every other trump toadie trying to call the fire dept now after the house has already burned down
F this guy and every other trump toadie trying to call the fire dept now after the house has already burned down
There used to be a time where one had to actually stand up and speak for a prolonged period of time to do a filibuster. The Senate could easily revert to that policy.The biggest consideration will come down to filibuster overrides. I fully expect Mitch to go into full obstruction mode, in which case most of the above can't happen unless Manchin agrees to filibuster overrides. I don't think he will at first, but if Mitch is obstructing everything and the 2 years are slipping by he may change his mind.
You made me almost spit my teas out all over my keyboard, from laughing!!!!No wine will ever age as well as this
I think you're going a bit overboard when we haven't even seen proposals. I predict we'll see increased taxes that offset most deficit spendingSure. That’s what we need a functioning government run by drunken sailors with no regard for the budget whatsoever. The answer to Trump’s fiscal irresponsibility is to double down and spend twice or three times as much as he did. Great.
They have no regard for the kids in grade school who are going to inherit a 50 trillion. Dollar deficit and a currency worth 1/2 as much as today.
This is just shameful, reckless government run by socialist hacks with no regard for this nation.
Higher taxes are just part of the solution. Controlling spending is also crucial for this nation’s future.
Before Vector2 chimes in about the Trump tax cuts the fact is those can be reversed and taxes raised higher on that same group. That’s not the same as giving away the treasury to every citizen who can never repay the handouts.
I don't think that issue is quite so simple. These are media platforms that have grown to the point that they're effectively the primary national platforms for speech.Seriously. Same with the cowards at Facebook and Twitter who waited until the last two weeks of his term to de-platform him.
Yeah keep in mind the courts issued an injunction against Trump a number of years ago saying that he could not block anyone from his Twitter feed.I don't think that issue is quite so simple. These are media platforms that have grown to the point that they're effectively the primary national platforms for speech.
I want to know what the president and other public figures of note are saying.
They should've waited until Jan 21st at least.
I don't think that issue is quite so simple. These are media platforms that have grown to the point that they're effectively the primary national platforms for speech.
I want to know what the president and other public figures of note are saying.
They should've waited until Jan 21st at least.
There used to be a time where one had to actually stand up and speak for a prolonged period of time to do a filibuster. The Senate could easily revert to that policy.
Does congress make laws in either of those places?People are truly losing their s**t...on the fringes that is....where was all the breathless pearl clutching when Seattle and Portland was going down?
No, they make laws for citizens that live in those places and if the laws that are made in DC mean nothing, then why is DC so special?Does congress make laws in either of those places?
Who said they mean nothing?No, they make laws for citizens that live in those places and if the laws that are made in DC mean nothing, then why is DC so special?
Not in this particular case. Only Republicans hitched their wagon to Trumps crazy train. His fantasy about widespread voter fraud is a JOKE and these clowns particularly Cruz, Hawley, Ron Johnson ought to be ashamed of themselves. They played into his conspiracy theories either because there are as dumb as Trump themselves or (more likely) they are making a calculated political move for when they try to court the "deplorables".On both sides.
People are truly losing their s**t...on the fringes that is....where was all the breathless pearl clutching when Seattle and Portland was going down?
Those people got to the Capitol because DC police allowed them to. The same DC whose black mayor refused federal support just one day earlier. One should wonder, why did she do that, having been warned of what was coming?When I saw those dinguses storming the capital and the capital police essentially allowing them through I kept thinking how different they were handwhen compared to any BLM protest.
I saw no tanks or rubber bullets. And it took hours for the national guard to show up.
Im glad the bias was there in plain sight so the world could see America’s hypocrisy.
Taking a knee during the national anthem doesn’t seem so bad now, does it? Hehe.
Straw man fallacy.The republican party had a choice between being seditionists riling up the resentment of it's base, or being the party of fiscal responsibility. They have shown through multiple periods of governance that it is just lip service. Democrats have largely had lower deficits than republican presidents. So not sure where this 2-3X fear comes from?
The last president to balance the budget (and even show a surplus) was Clinton. That was a generation ago. It's been getting worse with every president since.Straw man fallacy.
Those people got to the Capitol because DC police allowed them to. The same DC whose black mayor refused federal support just one day earlier. One should wonder, why did she do that, having been warned of what was coming?
That doesn't change the fact that the Capitol Police were significantly underprepared for a mob protesting at their doors. Hence they got overwhelmed. There was not much they could have done (they were a drop in the ocean), except call for the DC National Guard, which Trump opposed until after the building was stormed. The only alternative, at that point, would have been a bloodbath. I'm curious what the congressional investigation will unearth.
The bias was mainly Trump's, let that penetrate your tunnel visions. It was also Trump who sent that mob to the Capitol, knowing well that it was poorly guarded.
It seems that some people see bias everywhere, except in their own thoughts. As I said, self-victimization and paranoia.
The "bias" was a direct result of last year's BLM protests. We can't have it both ways: we can't egg on the police both when they use lethal force and when they don't, second-guessing them at every step. Imagine if we had to practice medicine like that, on a daily basis. Regardless, the Capitol (or DC) Police should have been much better prepared for rioters; that was incompetence or lack of resources.
P.S. Disrespecting the national flag or anthem is never OK, however people rationalize it. Millions were wounded or died for those national symbols. Otherwise, one can kneel all one wants, as far as I am concerned.
Where are you seeing the mayor refused federal assistance? I read the opposite. I thought she requested the national guard but was denied days prior to the incident.
And miss me with the disrespecting the flag BS. There’s nothing disrespectful about kneeling during the national anthem. Some of you people are so obsessed in symbolism you forget about real Americans who suffer injustices.
Storming the capital building and hanging confederate and nazi flags (there was one) is 1000x more disrespectful than what Kaepernick did.
You’re right. The DC law enforcement was very unpreparedlooked like a bunch of scared little girls handling that mob. That never would have happened with a BLM protest. Heck, they had more security when ACB was confirmed to the SCOTUS and that didn’t have anything to do with BLM.
Trump is trash and so is anyone who supports his insurrection inciting ass. Tis all.
Where are you seeing the mayor refused federal assistance? I read the opposite. I thought she requested the national guard but was denied days prior to the incident.
oh brother...the dogma lives loudly and how...PNW riots=bad....DC riot= bad.....attempting to make one worse than the other=laughable, breathtakingly lacking in self awareness and servicing an invincible ideology lacking any coherency.....Who said they mean nothing?
You are equating people attacking a police precinct that has no bearing on my existence to people attacking the seat of federal governance of the country with the stated goal of trying to stop transition of power of the executive branch. If you can't see the difference then you are part of the problem.
And there was so much conservative pearl clutching over the Seattle bull**** zone or whatever it was called it was on fox 24/7. People on this forum have cited concern over Portland riots as a reason they supported the failed despot trump because they were so afraid the left wouldn't support law and order. So I am confused as to why you think nobody cared before.
The intended goal of these riots was different, and if you can’t understand that you are being willfully ignorant.oh brother...the dogma lives loudly and how...PNW riots=bad....DC riot= bad.....attempting to make one worse than the other=laughable, breathtakingly lacking in self awareness and servicing an invincible ideology lacking any coherency.....
Those people got to the Capitol because DC police allowed them to. The same DC whose black mayor refused federal support just one day earlier. One should wonder, why did she do that, having been warned of what was coming?
That doesn't change the fact that the Capitol Police were significantly underprepared for a mob protesting at their doors. Hence they got overwhelmed. There was not much they could have done (they were a drop in the ocean), except call for the DC National Guard, which Trump opposed until after the building was stormed. The only alternative, at that point, would have been a bloodbath. I'm curious what the congressional investigation will unearth.
The bias was mainly Trump's, let that penetrate your tunnel visions. It was also Trump who sent that mob to the Capitol, knowing well that it was poorly guarded.
It seems that some people see bias everywhere, except in their own thoughts. As I said, self-victimization and paranoia.
The "bias" was a direct result of last year's BLM protests. We can't have it both ways: we can't egg on the police both when they use lethal force and when they don't, second-guessing them at every step. Imagine if we had to practice medicine like that, on a daily basis. Regardless, the Capitol (or DC) Police should have been much better prepared for rioters; that was incompetence or lack of resources.
P.S. Disrespecting the national flag or anthem is never OK, however people rationalize it. Millions were wounded or died for those national symbols. Otherwise, one can kneel all one wants, as far as I am concerned.
Right, it’s the blatant denial around a fact that truly baffles me. It’s almost like claiming there was no such thing as slavery. But then again a lot of those same people do believe in fiction.The Police’s Tepid Response To The Capitol Breach Wasn’t An Aberration
Authorities are more than twice as likely to break up a left-wing protest than a right-wing protest.fivethirtyeight.com
It is a data driven fact. Police are more likely to respond to minority/left wing protests with violence then right wing/white supremacist, even controlling for the peacefulness of the event. It was true for the Klan and Civil rights activists, and its true now with proud boys, anti mask rallies, and BLM.
We are not asking police to brutalize right wing protesters. While security was extremely poor, should have been better planned, and should have prevented the breach, once it happened I'm glad it wasn't turned into a blood bath. We are asking police to treat minorities and their causes the same way.
Trump was never a conservative. The "elites" in Manhattan were mostly democrats and they would have nothing to do with him since they knew he was a buffoon even way back then. Also, Obama made a joke at his expense at a dinner one time. This is the level of maturity we are looking at.Trump is a populist, not a conservative. Hence most conservatives were upset that Trump became the nominee. What kind of conservatives have had 3 wives, work in entertainment, and were democrats for much of their life? Lol
And now that they didn't overthrow a democratic election to make him dictator he's melting down and lining up busses to throw them underTrump was never a conservative. The "elites" in Manhattan were mostly democrats and they would have nothing to do with him since they knew he was a buffoon even way back then. Also, Obama made a joke at his expense at a dinner one time. This is the level of maturity we are looking at.
At this point I feel like supporting trump is a character flaw.
In 2016 I didnt feel this way, but this is insanity.
And who let this bozo back on Twitter?!?!
I voted for him twice (really voted against Hillary and against Biden but that’s another conversation) and I gotta say this mother****er needs to go. Trying to overturn an election and stoking doubt in the democratic process is unforgivable. I know I’m not saying anything new but people should know that there are people out there who voted for him that do NOT support this **** in any way shape or form.
And the people who “stormed” the capital (quotes because I think the word stormed should be reserved for actual soldiers in actual combat not some Buffalo-horned buffoons who happen to break stuff in the face of zero opposition) should be tracked down, put on trial and sentenced to the absolute fullest extent of the law. Drag them out of their houses in the middle of the night, I don’t care. Send a message that you do not **** with elections. Honestly I think what they did was way worse than all the BLM rioting because it was an attempt to undermine the foundation of our democracy. Bring the hammer down on these people.
You sound like one of my philosophy professors!Yes, but what makes you so sure Trump (and his side) is the only one who **** with [these] elections? A question if I may: if Trump was CONVINCED that a Harris presidency and AOC and her ilk pulling the strings behind the scenes would 100% lead to the destruction of a capitalist US and the establishment of a socialist regime, would he not be morally obligated to try and win at any cost, including trying to **** elections in order to save his beloved country?
Although we can disagree on politics, I am glad to see that there are still people out there who can at least understand that this was totally wrong. Thank you!You sound like one of my philosophy professors!
Im not sure at all that trump is the only one. Doesn’t matter to me. The people who walked into the capital and vandalized it did so with the intent to overturn an election. An election that had repeatedly been unsuccessfully challenged in court.
if he was 100% sure (which is an impossibility since we’re talking about the future) his loss would lead to socialism he’s still wrong for trying to overturn an election. The repercussions of losing faith in the democratic process would be extreme. At least if he loses and then makes it publicly known that we need to fight in the senate and house we can still, maybe,fend off socialism.
it’s not appropriate for any individual to assume they know what’s best for 300+ million people. That’s what the democratic process (republic really) is for.
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And the people who “stormed” the capital (quotes because I think the word stormed should be reserved for actual soldiers in actual combat not some Buffalo-horned buffoons who happen to break stuff in the face of zero opposition)
Yes, but what makes you so sure Trump (and his side) is the only one who **** with [these] elections? A question if I may: if Trump was CONVINCED that a Harris presidency and AOC and her ilk pulling the strings behind the scenes would 100% lead to the destruction of a capitalist US and the establishment of a socialist regime, would he not be morally obligated to try and win at any cost, including trying to **** elections in order to save his beloved country?
. If the people want Socialism like Vector2
Madison Cawthorn (R) NC-11 Congressman-elect just turned 25 in August and will be the youngest US Congressman in history. You might have seen him speaking at the RNC, rising for the flag from his wheelchair. He's a rising star - and received a campaign donation from ASA-PAC this fall.
I happily agree, and I'm in GA. I've never understood the appeal of John Ossoff. He's a nobody that came out of nowhere, a total manufactured Democratic candidate. He lost what was up to then the most expensive US House race ever to Karen Handel, and has never been elected to any public office. He'll now likely lose the most expensive US Senate race ever to David Purdue.
Raphael Warnock had the good fortune to be able to stay above the fray in the primary, run fairly positive ads, and let Loeffler and Doug Collins sling mud at each other and totally ignore him. Had Collins stayed out of the race (which he should have but his pride got the best of him), Loeffler would have won with 60% or more. All of Collins voters will move to Loeffler in the runoff.
Cawthorn “rising star” incites mob at the Capitol on january 6 and votes against certifying the election. If ASA PAC did indeed support this clown, we have problems.
Ossoff “nobody”.
Does not compute.
#NC11: Attack By Madison Cawthorn's Schoolmates Goes Viral
A scathing public letter signed by more than 150 of Madison Cawthorn’s former schoolmates at Patrick Henry College alleges that the Republican candidate…www.bpr.org
The Constitution makes it clear: It’s time for Madison Cawthorn to resign | OPINION
It is shocking to write these words: Madison Cawthorn helped to incite a violent siege on the federal government, Jasmine Beach-Ferrara writes.www.citizen-times.com
It's interesting what politics does, right? For some reason it often allows people to view others as something they aren't. I said here not long ago that Ossoff and Warnock weren't terribly appealing candidates for me personally. I probably should've read more about Warnock as I think I was wrong. Ossoff though I still don't find appealing. I'm absolutely astounded he won, but Trump effect.
I'm not sure how ANYONE could defend Cawthorn or say he's the future of anything. Leave his MAGA Trumpism out of it. Just read his wikipedia page. What has this kid done other than lie and deceive people and create a persona of something he just isn't? It leads me to worry that like Trump, he's got some serious psychiatric issues going on.
After the Capitol riots the ASA sent out an email (and I don't recall the exact wording) admitting they'd essentially been deceived in who they donated to and would be more careful going forward. It's easy to imagine that they were alluding to Andy Harris, an actual ANESTHESIOLOGIST! Too bad Andy has fallen off the MAGA deep end as opposed to simply being a decent conservative.
Again, I don't know why the GOP is doing this to itself. But if they don't want to continue losing to rather unappealing candidates in big races in traditionally GOP states (Georgia!) they'll distance themselves from Trump and come back to reality.
Democrat will tax and spend; republican will cut tax, spend and lie about being fiscally conservative. I am not sure which one is worse.The last president to balance the budget (and even show a surplus) was Clinton. That was a generation ago. It's been getting worse with every president since.
A couple more generations or less, and the dollar may not be worth the paper it's printed on.
By that description one seems undeniably worse....Democrat will tax and spend; republican will cut tax, spend and lie about being fiscally conservative. I am not sure which one is worse.
I am conflicted because I don't want to be taxed thru my nose...By that description one seems undeniably worse....