Pulm/CC Fellowship Application 2009-2010

[jdh71]

Anyone any comments on the program? Havent heard too many good things about it. But people whom I have heard them from may have been biased! Any input??

The gossip has only been bad. Nothing I can substantiate. Check them out. Make up your own mind.

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[jdh71]

Anyone heard if UT-SW has finished offering interview invites? Seems like only one person on this board got an interview there...

I've ran into a few people on the trail who have interviews, but have heard neither yes or no. Might be one of those programs that never says, "No"

 

[jdh71]

how often do people get prematches in pccm. if offered one is it advisable to take it or go for match. i have some interesting interviews but also anticipating a prematch. so would u guys suggest i go for match or take the prematch.

interview invites from univ of tennessee, univ of texas houston, umdnj newark, drexel, univ of rochester

In your situation, would probably take a prematch, provided you like the offer enough to go there for three years.

 

[Moozy]

If you like the program and are comfortable; then why not.
Have not heard of any prematches in general for PCCM except for a few NYC programs that tend to fill internally.

 

[Moozy]

QUOTE=New York City;9362916]Anyone any comments on the program? Havent heard too many good things about it. But people whom I have heard them from may have been biased! Any input??[/QUOTE]

very busy program and ED; overworked 1st years. Limited research in pulm; some clinical research in ccm. Energetic PD. It is a county hospital therefore gets lots of uninsured patients and the pathology they see is ridiculous. Very good for clinical training. Closely affiliated to Rush; all didactics and some clinics are at Rush. No lung transplant experience. They usually fill in house.

 

[Moozy]

Anyone heard if UT-SW has finished offering interview invites? Seems like only one person on this board got an interview there...

traditionally very selective program. No visas.

 

[VJWDO]

I would definitely advise accepting a pre-match unless you really do not want to train there.

A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush!!!

 

[zavanilli]

Hi I have been a quite watcher of the forum for a while.
I have got 14 invitations so far in clinically oriented programs which is eventually my career goal.
I have done 6 interviews so far and sent thank you emails to 3 programs already
QUESTION-1:
Do they routinely respond back to these emails? and if they don't ( like my case) is this a bad sign?
my friend who matched last year in heme/onc told me he got so many responses to his thank you emails which worries me and I want to know if there is something wrong with my interview strategy so that I can save the rest of interviews

QUESTION-2:
what are the statistical possibilities to match if someone goes to >10 interviews?
Thanks

 

[Moozy]

Hi I have been a quite watcher of the forum for a while.
I have got 14 invitations so far in clinically oriented programs which is eventually my career goal.
I have done 6 interviews so far and sent thank you emails to 3 programs already
QUESTION-1:
Do they routinely respond back to these emails? and if they don't ( like my case) is this a bad sign?
my friend who matched last year in heme/onc told me he got so many responses to his thank you emails which worries me and I want to know if there is something wrong with my interview strategy so that I can save the rest of interviews

QUESTION-2:
what are the statistical possibilities to match if someone goes to >10 interviews?
Thanks

1- Not many PCCM programs reply to thankyou emails. In my experience only one replied back saying we have ranked you and good luck for match. So I won't sweat over it.

2- 10 + interviews is generally good unless you are a different person than what you looked on paper or what they were looking for. No one can give you exact statistics but chances are high. I know one person matched with just one interview in an average program and one colleague remaining unmatched with 6 IVs at University programs. So no hard and fast rules here.

 

[VJWDO]

Should I be sending thank you emails?

I kinda think they are stupid.

Are you guys all sending thank you's?

 

[PCCM45]

albany medical center (ny): Pccdoc2011, mayamd82
albert einstein beth israel (ny): Kpchal2, new york city, satchboogie, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
albert einstein montefiore(ny): New york city, ebus, mayamd82
albert einstein (philidelphia): New york city, ebus, satchboogie
allegheny general hospital: Satchboogie, coz , mayamd82
california pacific medical center: Vjwdo, nnguyenmd, coz
case western university : Pcc1,PCCM45, mayamd82
cedars-sinai medical center: Nnguyenmd
Cook County Hospital: Satchboogie,New York City,PCCM45
cooper university hospital: Satchboogie
creighton university: Pccdoc2011 , pccm2011, vjwdo
drexel/hahnemann: Coz, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
duke: Vjwdo, pulm2011
emory: Darice, coz, nnguyenmd
georgetown/washington hospital center: Darice, nnguyenmd
georgetown university: Nnguyenmd
harbor-ucla medical center: Rami
harvard combined: Pulm2011
henry ford: Linnad, sam80, mayamd82
indiana university: Btopulm, pccdoc2011
jefferson: Aspergilus, nnguyenmd
johns hopkins university: Pulm2011
loma linda university: Pccm2011, coz
loyola university: Vjwdo, pccm2011
mayo-jacksonville, fl: Coz
mcw, wisconsin: Ebus
musc: Darice
NIH research track: mayamd82
nyu: Pccdoc2011, nnguyenmd, mayamd82
ny pres-cornell: Nnguyenmd, mayamd2
ny methodist : Kpchal2
ohio state university: Btopulm, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
penn state: Pccdoc2011
rush university: Vjwdo
st. Lukes-roosevelt (nyc): Pccdoc2011, new york city, mayamd82
suny-stony brook: Pccdoc2011, mayamd82
suny upstate syracuse: Satchboogie
temple: PCCM45
texas a&m university (scott & white): Pccm2011, satchboogie,aspergilus
tufts university: Pccdoc2011
tulane university: Satchboogie,
umdnj new brunswick - kpchal2
umdnj newark- pccdoc2011, nnguyenmd
university of alabama birmingham: Darice, pccm2011
university of arizona: Vjwdo, kpchal2
university of arkansas: Kpchal2
university of buffalo: Satchboogie, ebus, mayamd82
university of california (davis): Vjwdo
university of california (san diego): Coz
university of california (san francisco): Pulm2011
university of chicago: Vjwdo
university of cincinnati: Satchboogie
university of florida (gainsville): Darice, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
university of illinois chicago: Vjwdo, rami, btopulm
university of iowa: Vjwdo, kpchal2, rami
university of kansas: Pccdoc2011,satchboogie, mayamd82
university of kentucky: Vjwdo, satchboogie
university of maryland: Darice, nnguyenmd
university of michigan: Pccdoc2011, mayamd82, pulm2011
university of minnesota: Pccm2011
university of mississippi: Kpchal2
university of missouri (columbia): Vjwdo
university of nebraska: Pccm2011, ebus
university of north carolina: Darice, pulm2011, rami
university of pennsylvania: Pulm2010
university of rochester: Rami
university of south alabama: Satchboogie, kpchal2, pccm2011
univeristy of southern california: Nnguyenmd
University of Tenessae Memphis: Satchboogie
university of texas (southwestern): Darice
university of utah: Rami, kpchal2, coz, pccdoc2011, satchboogie, pccm2011
university of vermont: Satchboogie
university of virginia: Darice
university wisconsin (madison): Coz, btopulm,sam80
wake forest: Pccm2011
washington university, st. Louis: Btopulm
vanderbilt: Pulm2011
virginia commonwealth university: Vjwdo, nnguyenmd, mayamd82
yale: Pccdoc2011, spark

 

[Hernandez]

Should I be sending thank you emails?

I kinda think they are stupid.

Are you guys all sending thank you's?

I sent them the programs I was interested in. It probably doesn't help anything but it was easy and inexpensive and isn't going to hurt.

 

[codeb1ue]

Hi. I am about to start my medicine intern year and am intending to apply to PCCM later. I have heard rumors that UCLA only accepts their own residents into their PCCM programs. Does anyone know anything about this rumor?

 

[jdh71]

Hi. I am about to start my medicine intern year and am intending to apply to PCCM later. I have heard rumors that UCLA only accepts their own residents into their PCCM programs. Does anyone know anything about this rumor?

I had not heard that, and it would surprise me greatly if that were the case. UCLA's pulmonary and critical care division is very research orientated, arguably a top 10 place for basic science research in this area, and I can't imagine them not taking the people they think are the best applicants be they in house or from outside. Of course UCLA recruits some excellent medicine residents. It may just be that there's not some sort of bias for in-house people as much as in-house people have been very good candidates and as such have matched.

 

[satchboogie]

west virginia university interview

albany medical center (ny): Pccdoc2011, mayamd82
albert einstein beth israel (ny): Kpchal2, new york city, satchboogie, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
albert einstein montefiore(ny): New york city, ebus, mayamd82
albert einstein (philidelphia): New york city, ebus, satchboogie
allegheny general hospital: Satchboogie, coz , mayamd82
california pacific medical center: Vjwdo, nnguyenmd, coz
case western university : Pcc1,PCCM45, mayamd82
cedars-sinai medical center: Nnguyenmd
Cook County Hospital: Satchboogie,New York City,PCCM45
cooper university hospital: Satchboogie
creighton university: Pccdoc2011 , pccm2011, vjwdo
drexel/hahnemann: Coz, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
duke: Vjwdo, pulm2011
emory: Darice, coz, nnguyenmd
georgetown/washington hospital center: Darice, nnguyenmd
georgetown university: Nnguyenmd
harbor-ucla medical center: Rami
harvard combined: Pulm2011
henry ford: Linnad, sam80, mayamd82
indiana university: Btopulm, pccdoc2011
jefferson: Aspergilus, nnguyenmd
johns hopkins university: Pulm2011
loma linda university: Pccm2011, coz
loyola university: Vjwdo, pccm2011
mayo-jacksonville, fl: Coz
mcw, wisconsin: Ebus
musc: Darice
NIH research track: mayamd82
nyu: Pccdoc2011, nnguyenmd, mayamd82
ny pres-cornell: Nnguyenmd, mayamd2
ny methodist : Kpchal2
ohio state university: Btopulm, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
penn state: Pccdoc2011
rush university: Vjwdo
st. Lukes-roosevelt (nyc): Pccdoc2011, new york city, mayamd82
suny-stony brook: Pccdoc2011, mayamd82
suny upstate syracuse: Satchboogie
temple: PCCM45
texas a&m university (scott & white): Pccm2011, satchboogie,aspergilus
tufts university: Pccdoc2011
tulane university: Satchboogie,
umdnj new brunswick - kpchal2
umdnj newark- pccdoc2011, nnguyenmd
university of alabama birmingham: Darice, pccm2011
university of arizona: Vjwdo, kpchal2
university of arkansas: Kpchal2
university of buffalo: Satchboogie, ebus, mayamd82
university of california (davis): Vjwdo
university of california (san diego): Coz
university of california (san francisco): Pulm2011
university of chicago: Vjwdo
university of cincinnati: Satchboogie
university of florida (gainsville): Darice, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
university of illinois chicago: Vjwdo, rami, btopulm
university of iowa: Vjwdo, kpchal2, rami
university of kansas: Pccdoc2011,satchboogie, mayamd82
university of kentucky: Vjwdo, satchboogie
university of maryland: Darice, nnguyenmd
university of michigan: Pccdoc2011, mayamd82, pulm2011
university of minnesota: Pccm2011
university of mississippi: Kpchal2
university of missouri (columbia): Vjwdo
university of nebraska: Pccm2011, ebus
university of north carolina: Darice, pulm2011, rami
university of pennsylvania: Pulm2010
university of rochester: Rami
university of south alabama: Satchboogie, kpchal2, pccm2011
univeristy of southern california: Nnguyenmd
University of Tenessae Memphis: Satchboogie
university of texas (southwestern): Darice
university of utah: Rami, kpchal2, coz, pccdoc2011, satchboogie, pccm2011
university of vermont: Satchboogie
university of virginia: Darice
university wisconsin (madison): Coz, btopulm,sam80
wake forest: Pccm2011
washington university, st. Louis: Btopulm
west virginia university: satchboogie
vanderbilt: Pulm2011
virginia commonwealth university: Vjwdo, nnguyenmd, mayamd82
yale: Pccdoc2011, spark

 

[codeb1ue]

I had not heard that, and it would surprise me greatly if that were the case. UCLA's pulmonary and critical care division is very research orientated, arguably a top 10 place for basic science research in this area, and I can't imagine them not taking the people they think are the best applicants be they in house or from outside. Of course UCLA recruits some excellent medicine residents. It may just be that there's not some sort of bias for in-house people as much as in-house people have been very good candidates and as such have matched.

makes sense. Good to know I still have a chance. Thanks for the info.

 

[pulm]

Hey all,

I am applying next year. I have a personal interest in New Orleans but am curious about the programs. For anyone currently there or have interviewed at Tulane or LSU, I have a few questions:
1. Are they stable, I know Katrina set them back but how are they now?
2. How much research focus do they have? I am interested in academics.
3. How much call do they take? I had heard that due to the loss of personnel they had to increase fellows' overnight call.

thank!

 

[Newbie12]

Little dissapointed in you guys that you aren't really discussing programs.

Found it very helpful last year to share thoughts.

 

[jdh71]

Little dissapointed in you guys that you aren't really discussing programs.

Found it very helpful last year to share thoughts.

I'll break it down after rank lists are submitted.

 

[New York City]

Has anyone heard from SUNY downstate? Is it one of the programs which doesnt give a yes/no answer nor does it pick up the phone, nor reply to emails??? Thats as anti social as they can get man!!

 

[jdh71]

Been quiet in here, hope everyone is having a good time interviewing.

I still promise to post impressions after rank lists are finalized.

 

[VJWDO]

Sorry for not posting interview feedback but after going to a couple of less desireable interviews I opted to follow in JDH71 footsteps and wait till after matching to post. Will post all IV experiences for fellow applicants next year to peruse. So far though have been traveling like crazy and don't really have time to post good reviews. Will try later. Good luck everyone and hope all is going well for you.

 

[PCCM45]

This forum has gone crazy and destructive!!
Hope this destructive attitude make everyone successful.

 

[jdh71]

This forum has gone crazy and destructive!!
Hope this destructive attitude make everyone successful.

What's destructive?

 

[VJWDO]

My Reason for not posting my IV thoughts has nothing to do with stopping other people from doing well. You need to calm down.

We simply do not want to say anything negative about a program that we end of matching to. Or even worse wouldn't it suck to say something negative about a program and they see it and find out who you are and don't rank you or put you a little lower. I think this is kinda crappy but it could happen and this is very improtant to us.

I don't appreciate the insinuation that we would try to sabotage other candidates. I am a very desireable candidate in my own right and do not need to hurt other people to get into a good program.

Grow up and worry about your own interviews and how to get a spot with your own creds and don't rely on someone else's opinion of a program. Get your own opinion!!



Sorry for everyone else to go a little crazy but PCCM45 really pissed me off!

 

[New York City]

Memorial Sloan and Lenox Hill invites for pulmonary

albany medical center (ny): Pccdoc2011, mayamd82
albert einstein beth israel (ny): Kpchal2, new york city, satchboogie, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
albert einstein montefiore(ny): New york city, ebus, mayamd82
albert einstein (philidelphia): New york city, ebus, satchboogie
allegheny general hospital: Satchboogie, coz , mayamd82
california pacific medical center: Vjwdo, nnguyenmd, coz
case western university : Pcc1,PCCM45, mayamd82
cedars-sinai medical center: Nnguyenmd
Cook County Hospital: Satchboogie,New York City,PCCM45
cooper university hospital: Satchboogie
creighton university: Pccdoc2011 , pccm2011, vjwdo
drexel/hahnemann: Coz, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
duke: Vjwdo, pulm2011
emory: Darice, coz, nnguyenmd
georgetown/washington hospital center: Darice, nnguyenmd
georgetown university: Nnguyenmd
harbor-ucla medical center: Rami
harvard combined: Pulm2011
henry ford: Linnad, sam80, mayamd82
indiana university: Btopulm, pccdoc2011
jefferson: Aspergilus, nnguyenmd
johns hopkins university: Pulm2011
Lenox Hill(pulmonary): New York City
loma linda university: Pccm2011, coz
loyola university: Vjwdo, pccm2011
mayo-jacksonville, fl: Coz
mcw, wisconsin: Ebus
memorial sloan(pulmonary): New York City
musc: Darice
NIH research track: mayamd82
nyu: Pccdoc2011, nnguyenmd, mayamd82
ny pres-cornell: Nnguyenmd, mayamd2
ny methodist : Kpchal2
ohio state university: Btopulm, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
penn state: Pccdoc2011
rush university: Vjwdo
st. Lukes-roosevelt (nyc): Pccdoc2011, new york city, mayamd82
suny-stony brook: Pccdoc2011, mayamd82
suny upstate syracuse: Satchboogie
temple: PCCM45
texas a&m university (scott & white): Pccm2011, satchboogie,aspergilus
tufts university: Pccdoc2011
tulane university: Satchboogie,
umdnj new brunswick - kpchal2
umdnj newark- pccdoc2011, nnguyenmd
university of alabama birmingham: Darice, pccm2011
university of arizona: Vjwdo, kpchal2
university of arkansas: Kpchal2
university of buffalo: Satchboogie, ebus, mayamd82
university of california (davis): Vjwdo
university of california (san diego): Coz
university of california (san francisco): Pulm2011
university of chicago: Vjwdo
university of cincinnati: Satchboogie
university of florida (gainsville): Darice, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
university of illinois chicago: Vjwdo, rami, btopulm
university of iowa: Vjwdo, kpchal2, rami
university of kansas: Pccdoc2011,satchboogie, mayamd82
university of kentucky: Vjwdo, satchboogie
university of maryland: Darice, nnguyenmd
university of michigan: Pccdoc2011, mayamd82, pulm2011
university of minnesota: Pccm2011
university of mississippi: Kpchal2
university of missouri (columbia): Vjwdo
university of nebraska: Pccm2011, ebus
university of north carolina: Darice, pulm2011, rami
university of pennsylvania: Pulm2010
university of rochester: Rami
university of south alabama: Satchboogie, kpchal2, pccm2011
univeristy of southern california: Nnguyenmd
University of Tenessae Memphis: Satchboogie
university of texas (southwestern): Darice
university of utah: Rami, kpchal2, coz, pccdoc2011, satchboogie, pccm2011
university of vermont: Satchboogie
university of virginia: Darice
university wisconsin (madison): Coz, btopulm,sam80
wake forest: Pccm2011
washington university, st. Louis: Btopulm
west virginia university: satchboogie
vanderbilt: Pulm2011
virginia commonwealth university: Vjwdo, nnguyenmd, mayamd82
yale: Pccdoc2011, spark

 

[drdev]

Hi Guys, I am new to this forum. I am currently working as a Hospitalist for almost 2 years now. Now planning to go to either Primary care- traditional versus Pulmonary and Critical Care. I am really confused between the two. Hospitalist is great but there is no room for growth after a point. Can someone help me decide between Primary care and PCCM. I know specialist codes have been gone but I believe that if I DONT do it now I will never bbe able to do it. I would appreciate any input from any attendings, fellows or Pulmonologits. Thank you.

Dev

 

[jdh71]

Finally rounding out my interviews, two more to go at this point, and I was playing around NRMP rank list since it opened a few days ago. My top 5 are pretty easy (even if there is some flux within the top 5), but the rest . . . no so easy to decide. I don't think there is a place on my list where I will get "bad training", although some probably better than others, and I think excellent training for what I want to do at my top 5. I think I might actually be really, really disappointed if I don't get in my top 5 too . . . maybe I just match for preferred living location below 5 . . . ranking seemed a lot more simple for residency.

 

[pulm]

Hey all,

I know lips are tight right now about programs, but what programs out there have good interventional training. I know where the fellowships are, but I have heard @ those places, the interventional fellows take the procedures. What other programs out there have good experiances?

Thanks!!

 

[VJWDO]

Top 2 are slam dunk for me but the rest are really hard. My number 3 spot is fluctuating between a really great program but not best location and a good program with great location and friends who live there/in program. This is hard. I think I will get good training at both.

I seem to be making decisions based on quality of life.

Some of the better (ie more prestigious programs) are way down on the list 2/2 location.

Is this stupid???

Any info on how others are ranking/deciding would be insightful.

 

[jdh71]

Top 2 are slam dunk for me but the rest are really hard. My number 3 spot is fluctuating between a really great program but not best location and a good program with great location and friends who live there/in program. This is hard. I think I will get good training at both.

I seem to be making decisions based on quality of life.

Some of the better (ie more prestigious programs) are way down on the list 2/2 location.

Is this stupid???

Any info on how others are ranking/deciding would be insightful.

Here's kind of what I'm seeing and thinking . . .

The critical care is pretty uniform for the most part, the question regarding the critical care is not if you'll get to see enough sick patient, but rather if you get to see too much. Places differ with regards to things like who does most of the intubation or who regularly puts in chest tube, but neither of those factors would make me choose one over another alone. So the critical care part of the equation is fairly a non-issue, IMHO.

Now, the pulmonary varies quite a bit. With some places being more generalist, and others having every sub-sub-specialty you could think of +/- pulmonary htn (which is institution specific who handles the pulmonary htn, cards or pulm). Not every place has transplant. Which is intersting to me because it seems unless you want to do tx medicine most of the fellows seem to tolerate at best and hate at worst the months they have to spend on the tx service . . . so tx is not a make or break area IMHO, but I like Pulm, and would rather have exposure to tx as well as, as many sub-sub-specialty clinics as I can get into, including pulm htn, which is an area of interest, and any place training you in right heart caths raises my interests quite a bit, though, that in and of itself is not a make or break issue, the entire pulmonary package, however, is a make or break issue for me.

Research . . . I'm interested in an academic career and research, especially basic science (I had one friend tell me I was lucky I could say that and actually mean it). This is definitely a make or break issue for me. If I can't do basic science at program with protected time, then those programs move to the bottom half of the list. Places known for publishing in areas I'm interested in, go higher than ones that don't. You'll let me do a fourth year, you bump up.

Academic career tracking . . . I want to make sure where I go has a culture of mentorship, and people who can guide my career from fellowship, through the research, through the grant wrting process, and give me the best shot possible at being able to do something amazing in academic medicine. Places that seem to do this better, move up the list.

Location . . . not as important to me, however, important to my wife. Her location preferences will likely dictate the bottom half of my list.

Asthetic . . . sounds bad, or maybe superficial. But if I'm going to work somewhere I want to like where I'm working - feel good about it. This obviously is not a make or break issue, but I think it could eaily influence lower ranks.

 

[jdh71]

Hey all,

I know lips are tight right now about programs, but what programs out there have good interventional training. I know where the fellowships are, but I have heard @ those places, the interventional fellows take the procedures. What other programs out there have good experiances?

Thanks!!

UT San Antonio is supposed to be fairly aggressive in interventional from what I hear.

But I did not interview there and cannot substantiate this.

The problem is, most likely if you like interventional you will need to do an extra fellowship in order to get the numbers you'll need to be proficient and comfortable doing them, furthermore as move into the future and they begin to develop formal interventional fellowships and boards, a hospital will likely not let you do interventional work unless you are boarded for medical-legal liability reasons. When you're fooling around with lasers in an airway, you should probably have more expereince that you'll get from the basic pulm/cc fellowship.

 

[VJWDO]

Thanks jdh71!

Yeah my priorities are geared towards an academic career as a clinician educator as well as possible administrative roles. I want a good education on research and would like to know the ins and outs of obtaining grants and the actual research process but my aspirations are not to be a researcher.

That being said I have ranked a big research place # 1 but simply for th combination in excellent clinical and research experience. The other places I interview at are more clinical so that makes differentiating between them easier.

Do you take into account names and "well known" the program is when you are ranking?

Do you think it is stupid to rank a place higher than another simply for this reason?

I have never gone to a "well known" program so I personally don't care but in the academic world will this be a deal breaker when trying to get a job?

Any thoughts?

 

[jdh71]

Do you take into account names and "well known" the program is when you are ranking?

Do you think it is stupid to rank a place higher than another simply for this reason?

I have never gone to a "well known" program so I personally don't care but in the academic world will this be a deal breaker when trying to get a job?

Any thoughts?

In a perfect world . . .

I think if you want to stay academic in any way, shape, or form, you need to generally attempt to match as high up the academic food chain as possible. You are correct, name matters. Maybe it shouldn't be that way but it matters, and since it matter, it needs to be a consideration. I still don't think I'd trade name for misery though if I really didn't like the program and people inspite of the name. So basically, places you like probably need to go in order of academic reputation if you want to stay academic as a strategic plan. Obviously the tactics of other things you find important like: locations, people, the training, etc. can change this. I've got one place on my list, it was an academic place, with protected research time, opportunities for basic science, but there were things I didn't like as much about the "peripherals" that will probably put this place as my last rank.

It's tough.

 

[NNguyenMD]

Final Wrap Up:
For those who are reviewing this site to apply for PCCM in 2012, my personal stats during this application cycle are as follows:

AMG 3rd year IM resident at a large university program in California.
Low step 1, average step 2,3.
A few basic science publications from college, and one poster presentation in respiratory physiology for the local ACP meeting.
Rec letters were from my program director and a senior associate program director in IM, and from 2 senior PCCM attendings from my home program.

In total I applied to 30 PCCM programs and 8 CCM programs. I received 14 PCCM inteviews, and 2 CCM interviews. I ended up going on 6 of the PCCM inteviews and both CCM interviews. I applied primarily bicoastally in large metropolitan cities. I submitted my application on 12/31/10, and received my first interview invitation on 1/5/10. My last PCCM non-wait list interview invitation was offered 3/3/10, and last PCCM wait list interview invitation offered 4/1/10.
For those of you interested in applying for CCM, you apply for CCM through ERAS but the positions are offered independently of NRMP. Thus, you may receive position offers on an ongoing basis, most often prior to the match.

Like everyone else on this forum, I will post more program reviews after the match. I had already posted one earlier for Georgetown University, which was a very positive experience. One piece of advice I can give you guys who are from IM programs in large cities such as Philadelphia, NYC, or LA, most program directors know each other from around town, and thus it is critical to get rec. letters from the Pulmonary Fellowship Program director or division chief if possible. Feel free to IM me with any questions you might have. Goodluck to everyone else wrapping up interviews and deciding on their ROLs.

March Interview Invitations:
UCI
Mount Sinai - Critical Care Medicine

April Interview Invitations:
UCLA - Invited off of a wait list

Last Rejections:
UCSF
Stanford
Duke

Cancelled Interviews:
CPMC
TJH
Emory
NY-Presbyterian Cornell
NYU
VCU
UMDNJ-Newark
Univ. Maryland

albany medical center (ny): Pccdoc2011, mayamd82
albert einstein beth israel (ny): Kpchal2, new york city, satchboogie, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
albert einstein montefiore(ny): New york city, ebus, mayamd82
albert einstein (philidelphia): New york city, ebus, satchboogie
allegheny general hospital: Satchboogie, coz , mayamd82
california pacific medical center: Vjwdo, nnguyenmd, coz
case western university : Pcc1,pccm45, mayamd82
cedars-sinai medical center: NNguyenmd
Cook County Hospital: Satchboogie
cooper university hospital: Satchboogie
creighton university: Pccdoc2011 , pccm2011, vjwdo
drexel/hahnemann: Coz, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
duke: Vjwdo, pulm2011
emory: Darice, coz, NNguyenMD
georgetown/washington hospital center: Darice, NNguyenmd
georgetown university: NNguyenmd
harbor-ucla medical center: Rami
harvard combined: Pulm2011
henry ford: Linnad, sam80, mayamd82
indiana university: Btopulm, pccdoc2011
jefferson: Aspergilus, nnguyenmd
johns hopkins university: Pulm2011
loma linda university: Pccm2011, coz
loyola university: Vjwdo, pccm2011
mayo-jacksonville, fl: Coz
mcw, wisconsin: Ebus
mount sinai - ccm: NNguyenMD
musc: Darice
NIH research track: mayamd82
nyu: Pccdoc2011, nnguyenmd, mayamd82
ny pres-cornell: Nnguyenmd, mayamd2
ny methodist : Kpchal2
ohio state university: Btopulm, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
oregon health science university - CCM: NNguyenMD
penn state: Pccdoc2011
rush university: Vjwdo
st. Lukes-roosevelt (nyc): Pccdoc2011, new york city, mayamd82
suny-stony brook: Pccdoc2011, mayamd82
suny upstate syracuse: Satchboogie
temple: Ppcm45
texas a&m university (scott & white): Pccm2011, satchboogie,aspergilus
tufts university: Pccdoc2011
tulane university: Satchboogie,
umdnj new brunswick - kpchal2
umdnj newark- pccdoc2011, nnguyenmd
university of alabama birmingham: Darice, pccm2011
university of arizona: Vjwdo, kpchal2
university of arkansas: Kpchal2
university of buffalo: Satchboogie, ebus, mayamd82
university of california (davis): Vjwdo
university of california (irvine): NNguyenMD
university of california (los angeles): NNguyenMD
university of california (san diego): Coz
university of california (san francisco): Pulm2011
university of chicago: Vjwdo
university of cincinnati: Satchboogie
university of florida (gainsville): Darice, pccdoc2011, mayamd82
university of illinois chicago: Vjwdo, rami, btopulm
university of iowa: Vjwdo, kpchal2, rami
university of kansas: Pccdoc2011,satchboogie, mayamd82
university of kentucky: Vjwdo, satchboogie
university of maryland: Darice, nnguyenmd
university of michigan: Pccdoc2011, mayamd82, pulm2011
university of minnesota: Pccm2011
university of mississippi: Kpchal2
university of missouri (columbia): Vjwdo
university of nebraska: Pccm2011, ebus
university of north carolina: Darice, pulm2011, rami
university of pennsylvania: Pulm2010
university of rochester: Rami
university of south alabama: Satchboogie, kpchal2, pccm2011
univeristy of southern california: NNguyenMD
University of Tenessae Memphis: Satchboogie
university of texas (southwestern): Darice
university of utah: Rami, kpchal2, coz, pccdoc2011, satchboogie, pccm2011
university of vermont: Satchboogie
university of virginia: Darice
university wisconsin (madison): Coz, btopulm,sam80
wake forest: Pccm2011
washington university, st. Louis: Btopulm
vanderbilt: Pulm2011
virginia commonwealth university: Vjwdo, nnguyenmd, mayamd82
yale: Pccdoc2011, spark

 

[satchboogie]

Friends, I need your help. I recently got an email from a program that they cant find me in NRMP although I am registered there. Does any one of you have any ideas of what might be going on?

Its weekend and I cant reach NRMP hence m a little anxious. Any imput would be appreciated.

 

[VJWDO]

satchboogie,

Man that sucks. I have no clue what is going on especially since if you registered you should be there. ROL do not need to be certified til june i think so you should be ok to wait until monday to get them to straighten everything out. Hope it all works out. The good thing is that the program who called must really want you otherwise they proabably would not have even bothered calling!!

Good luck and keep us posted.

 

[EBUS]

Friends, I need your help. I recently got an email from a program that they cant find me in NRMP although I am registered there. Does any one of you have any ideas of what might be going on?

Its weekend and I cant reach NRMP hence m a little anxious. Any imput would be appreciated.

satchboogie, did you get this thing sorted?

 

[PCCM2011]

Rank list messing with my mind . . . number one is stable, but the rest keeps on fluctuating. It wasn't like this for residency.

 

[VJWDO]

I know what you mean. I finally certified ROL but it was difficult. I had no problem with my number 1 and 2 but 3 on down was hard. I couldn't for the life of me decide who to put number 3. I finally decided on a program that is solid and gave a good vibe but does not necessarily have the prestige of other programs that I ranked lower on the list. Hopefully I get my number 1 or 2 so all this won't matter. Good luck everyone. Hope you all aren't going crazy like me!

 

[PCCM2011]

I know what you mean. I finally certified ROL but it was difficult. I had no problem with my number 1 and 2 but 3 on down was hard. I couldn't for the life of me decide who to put number 3. I finally decided on a program that is solid and gave a good vibe but does not necessarily have the prestige of other programs that I ranked lower on the list. Hopefully I get my number 1 or 2 so all this won't matter. Good luck everyone. Hope you all aren't going crazy like me!

I still have yet to certify . . . I think 2 and 3 are starting to come into view better. After that . . . I don't know. One place, with a big name, gave me kind of a bad vibe, am I crazy for not ranking it higher? I think trusting my gut is the way to go, but the logical side my brain is screaming all the considerations.

What to do. What to do.

 

[satchboogie]

Any one has any thoughts about asking your mentors/PD to make calls for you. Do you think it helps????

 

[VJWDO]

I had the same issue. I was ready to rank program A over program B because of the pogram name but changed my mind because of an interview with the program chair of Program A that gave me bad vibes. I know that the program I am ranking 3 is not as prestigious as the one I am ranking lower but at the end of the day I want to be happy where I go to work as well as get a good education. I recommend going with your gut. In the end you will probably get good training wherever you go!


Satchboogie: At this point I don't think it will matter. They already liked u enough to give u and interview so nowI think they will rank us based on our interviews and whether or not we will fit in at their program. A call form your PD will probably just reiterate your credentials but it will not change the interview day and their impression of your overall package. You don't want to come off too desperate either.

 

[satchboogie]

VJWDO Thanks for your response. I thought in similar lines but a few friends of mine suggested that its better to ask PD/Mentors to call for you in 2 or 3 programs in which you are really interested. But I think you are right that its not going to make much of a difference.

What do you guys think about writing to the programs yourself about your interest in their programs as the programs are beginning to submit their rank order list. Do you think it will sound desperate as well ????

 

[PCCM2011]

What do you guys think about writing to the programs yourself about your interest in their programs as the programs are beginning to submit their rank order list. Do you think it will sound desperate as well ????

I don't think so.

I think saying something like, "I'm done with interviews and I still think your program is one of the best places I interviewed and I'm still very interested," doesn't sound desperate, but rather interested. It could help you move up their rank list some I think, because I have been told more than once that many programs want people who want to go there.

Just don't say, "Take me!!!! Please, please, please, please, please!!! I'll wash your car!!!" That sounds kind of desperate . . . Also, if you do decide to tell someone they are number one, don't tell anyone but your number one that they are number one because that's a douchebag thing to do and could come back to bite you in the ass.

 

[VJWDO]

Also, if you do decide to tell someone they are number one, don't tell anyone but your number one that they are number one because that's a douchebag thing to do and could come back to bite you in the ass.

Totally agree with the above.

I did send an email to my number 1 and told them that after completing the IV process I thought they were the best fit for me and I would like to receive my training at their institution. I was told by one of the attendings at my number 1 rank to do that because they would rather have people who really want to come to their program over people who are just luke warm.

I only sent that email to my number one though. Didn't want to send an email to my number 2 that said " you are awesome but 2nd choice " or something along those lines. Hopefully it all works out in the end!!

VJWDO

 

[PCCM2011]

I did send an email to my number 1 and told them that after completing the IV process I thought they were the best fit for me and I would like to receive my training at their institution.

I did the same.

Also, if you do this, DO NOT expect a repsonse. Most PDs are VERY careful what they say this time of the year.

 

[ResidentMD]

I will be applying for PCCM next year. I wanted to ask the current PCCM applicants-

What were the positive things in your application that were brought up during your interviews (research, abstracts, letters of recommendation, evals?)...and conversely, was there anything that was specifically pointed out to you, that your application lacked?

 

[VJWDO]

I was surprised at how much weight my letters of recommendation had on my application. I had multiple people remark on them and a couple of PD's even said that 1 letter was the reason I got the interview.

I was also surprised that no one really cared about my lack of research.

 

[jdh71]

Yup. Most places commented on my letters. Having research was nice because it gave us something to talk about. I think mostly they were just seeing if I was a cool guy.