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I hope you have enough money saved up for interview expenses!Preach. Im applying to 28 schools with a 3.9, 21 and Masters degree. At this point I'm trading money to calm my own damn nerves.
I hope you have enough money saved up for interview expenses!Preach. Im applying to 28 schools with a 3.9, 21 and Masters degree. At this point I'm trading money to calm my own damn nerves.
I hope you have enough money saved up for interview expenses!
Hi. This is my third time applying. I have 300 credits so far but I have a strong upward trend. My past 100 units have a 3.6 ~ average. However, my most recent 30-40 units have been a 4.0. I've been mostly taking these units as a post-bacc in a formal program. Yes, I understand there's diminishing returns for each additional unit, but i'm hoping that a strong upward trend will be noticed. At this point, I'm just wondering how I can differentiate myself from the crowd. I have a strong persistent interest in research but I have no publications. I also don't have a really strong leadership experience to talk about besides my data team leader experience. Currently, I'm residing in the bay area, so I'm looking at volunteering at UCSF - I have no clue how difficult it would be to get a position. Otherwise, I will be moving back to SoCal soon.
CA resident
Cum. GPA. 3.25
Sci. GPA : 3.21
DAT: 22 AA/21 TS/ 24 RC
-200 hours of dental assisting
-30 hours as a research assistant in an emergency room of a hospital.
-Tutor for a non profit for a year (once a week).
-Certification as a DA for California.
-Lab tech for roughly a year in a genetics lab.
-Student team leader for about a year in another genetics lab before that.
I received an interview for Touro last year but was rejected immediately due to my low GPA. Before that, I received an interview for NYU but was put on the waiting list because I applied late (October-November).
I'm applying to:
Thanks. Good luck everyone!
- Western
- UOP
- UCSF
- NYU
- Roseman
- Rutgers
- Tufts
- Temple
- Boston
- Pittsburgh
- Nevada
- USC
- Maryland
- Arizona
- NOVA
- East Carolina
- LECOM
DATs: 18 AA, 19 PAT, 20 TS, 15 RC, 14 QR, 17 GC, 21 BIO, 23 OC (third retake). Second time taken DATs my QR was a 17 and first was a 16.
GPAs: by the end of summer my masters science gpa will be pulled up to a 3.4 right now its 3.3. Undergrad gpa: 2.9 overall and 2.9 science.
1370 hrs of ECs, 238 hrs of shadowing with different dentists. Confident that my LORs will stand out. I am working on my personal statement and hopefully my dental school coach will walk me through it.
VA resident
Schools applying to:
1. UIC
2. Marquette
3. USC
4. Minnesota
5. Indiana
6. Louisville
7. Meharry
8. Tufts
9. UMKC
10. UDM
11. NYU
12. Howard
13. Creighton
Thinking about adding Western should i or not?
I would add more safeties. Btw, do you have a lot of research hours?overall gpa: 3.91
science gpa: 3.89
bio-chem-physics gpa: 3.85
DAT: 21 AA, 21 TS, 22 PAT, 22 BIO, 22 GC, 20 OC, 20 QR, 21 RC
Shadowing: 150 hrs
Volunteering: 180 hrs
Residence: California
Here is my list so far:
should I add or take off any schools??
- UoP
- UCLA
- USC
- UCSF
- WesternU
- NYU
- Tufts (MA)
- University of Michigan
- Creighton (Nebraska)
- Roseman university (Nevada)
- Pittsburgh (PA)
- Columbia (NY)
- Marquette (Wisconsin)
- University of Colorado
I would add more safeties. Btw, do you have a lot of research hours?
I applied to 20 schools and one school asked me why so many ? LOL result: rejectedPreach. Im applying to 28 schools with a 3.9, 21 and Masters degree. At this point I'm trading money to calm my own damn nerves.
I applied to 20 schools and one school asked me why so many ? LOL result: rejected
Good.Would appreciate any feedback!!!! Everything received by AADSAS on 6/22. Thanks in advance.
overall gpa: 3.55 (top UC)
science gpa: 3.45
bio-chem-physics gpa: 3.45
DAT: 25 AA, 26 TS, 27 GC, 30 BIO, 23 OC, 22 PAT, 23 QR, 21 RC
Dental Shadowing/Assisting: 320 hrs (2 general, 1 endo, 1 perio, 1 pediatric, 1 oral surgeon)
Non dental Volunteering: 100 hrs
Residence: California
Applied to: tufts, AT still, UCLA, UCSF, UOP, USC, western, nova, lecom, MWU az, detroit mercy, rutgers, columbia, nyu, oregon, upenn, touro and case
Good list or naw?
biochem is recommended but not required, youre goodwelp guess its time to start pulling the trigger with all these.... more need help with choosing schools since I know some basics, but not the nitty gritty, so any and all advice is greatly appreciated
CA resident
oGPA: 3.65
sGPA: 3.58
bcpGPA: 3.7
DAT: AA: 21, TS: 21, PAT: 21, BIO:20, GC: 21, OC: 21, QR: 22, RC: 19 (still don't know what happened there lol)
Shadowing: around 100 in general, ortho, pedo, perio... still getting more by submission though
Service: ~300 hrs
Research: ~450 hrs in two different projects both with biomath modeling
Work: >1000 hrs
My main insecurity with my app is that I started as an engineer and switched majors to an individualized thing, so I don't really have a normal mix of classes. Not sure if that will be a red flag to adcoms.
Schools:
UOP
UCLA
UCSF
USC
Western
Creighton
Michigan
Tufts
Penn
Columbia (bc why not i guess)
I need help choosing more. Also have been thinking: OHSU (but dont have Biochem lab), Colorado, BU, Temple, or Case Western (but don't know much about them). Torn on LLU, since its CA but scared of the SDA environment. Any ones I should add/drop? Thanks all!
What's normal mix? Do you think more science is classes is better? Or more variety?welp guess its time to start pulling the trigger with all these.... more need help with choosing schools since I know some basics, but not the nitty gritty, so any and all advice is greatly appreciated
CA resident
oGPA: 3.65
sGPA: 3.58
bcpGPA: 3.7
DAT: AA: 21, TS: 21, PAT: 21, BIO:20, GC: 21, OC: 21, QR: 22, RC: 19 (still don't know what happened there lol)
Shadowing: around 100 in general, ortho, pedo, perio... still getting more by submission though
Service: ~300 hrs
Research: ~450 hrs in two different projects both with biomath modeling
Work: >1000 hrs
My main insecurity with my app is that I started as an engineer and switched majors to an individualized thing, so I don't really have a normal mix of classes. Not sure if that will be a red flag to adcoms.
Schools:
UOP
UCLA
UCSF
USC
Western
Creighton
Michigan
Tufts
Penn
Columbia (bc why not i guess)
I need help choosing more. Also have been thinking: OHSU (but dont have Biochem lab), Colorado, BU, Temple, or Case Western (but don't know much about them). Torn on LLU, since its CA but scared of the SDA environment. Any ones I should add/drop? Thanks all!
No I was more saying like my classes aren't the typical biology chronological order nor do I go into super higher level classes.... more breadth than depth. Instead my transcripts bounce around in Engineering, then gen Bio, then Upper level maths, then back to bio. Only a concern to me since I don't go into like 500 level bios (or whatever the universal translation is) and because I once brought up my major to an admissions dean and he basically shrugged and said he has no idea if adcoms will accept it or not and "i guess we'll see" lololl classicWhat's normal mix? Do you think more science is classes is better? Or more variety?
I'm in a very tough boat.... and I think I have to retake my DAT. But my retake would have to be at the beginning of October and I think that would be much too late. I have already submitted my AADSAS and had it processed for University of Buffalo so I want to see what my hopes for this cycle are. Any feedback would be appreciated.
NY Resident
Sgpa: 3.50 Ogpa: 3.61
DAT: 6/29/17. 19AA / 18TS (18Bio 19GC 18OC) / 22 RC / 17QR / 16PAT
Shadowing: 150 hours on AADSAS right now, continuing over the summer. GD, ortho, pediatrics
Volunteering: >500 hours. I've been doing consistent volunteering since high school and through college with many different organizations
Research: No publications, working on a research project currently.
ECs: President of Pre-Dent, Secretary of TriBeta, in Phi Sigma Iota language honor society, on the city's fluoridation committee, planned the city's Children's Dental Health Fair, Alpha Phi Omega service fraternity member, member of Alpha Chi Omega, play flute in several ensembles at school, a member of the Honor Committee...etc.
Manual dexterity skills: flute playing, fly fishing, painting (recreationally)
So currently, I've only applied to University of Buffalo. I thought my application would take longer to process so I wanted to submit to one school and then wait for others until I got my scores. Long story short, I didn't have nearly as much study time as I wanted to and it's my own fault, but I could't push back my test any further. I did well on PAT practice exams so I did not expect my score to be that low... on the test today I felt like I just saw so many crazy things I'd never seen before and clearly I let it get to my head.
Please help. Any/all recommendations would be great. I don't know if schools will hold my app if I say I'm retaking, or if I could even get in this cycle after that. Also... is it even possible to get an interview / get in with a 16 PAT? Also a bit of a random question... does AADSAS save your application for if you have to reapply? I added several honors and 30 experiences and just want to know if I'd have to expect to retype them all or not...
Sorry this is long... final side note... I don't think my personal statement is 1 in a million but I think it's strong, and I think my UB supplemental responses were good as well. My LORs are highly recommended from a committee, and a good letter from a science faculty.
Thank you to anyone who helps!! (ps @TeethAreMyThing I see you go to UB, any feedback would be amazing)
I'm in a very tough boat.... and I think I have to retake my DAT. But my retake would have to be at the beginning of October and I think that would be much too late. I have already submitted my AADSAS and had it processed for University of Buffalo so I want to see what my hopes for this cycle are. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Hey, I will try to answer what I can! I feel it is important to mention that I was OOS for UB, so some things may be different. With that said, I think your GPA, shadowing, volunteering, research, EC's, and manual dexterity skills all seem to be great. I would recommend that you continue shadowing (which is already your plan). As far as your DAT is concerned, you don't have any scores that would disqualify you. You meet the threshold for UB. However, I do think it is clearly the weakest component of your otherwise great application. Since you have already applied to UB, there isn't much you can do but wait. I think that you could be invited for an interview and possibly have a favorable outcome this cycle. If that doesn't happen, at least you know exactly where you can make improvements and be ready to reapply early next June. In my experience, Buffalo is a very communicative school. If you have questions you feel only they can answer, then call them and ask them! They are great people.
If you do retake the DAT, I highly suggest practicing PAT with Bootcamp as frequently as you can (daily if possible). Bootcamp and Chad's Videos were amazing resources when I was studying. If you are not totally committed to Buffalo and wanting to start school ASAP, I suggest applying broadly. It is still early in the cycle. I also think retaking the DAT in October would be a wise choice. You could update schools with the new scores and be invited for interviews before December 1st, and if you end up having to reapply, you already have the DAT taken care of. Make sure you provide yourself with enough study time and you feel confident taking it, though. If October feels rushed again, and you do poorly, then you are no better off.
In summary,
I think you have a shot at getting in this cycle, especially if you add more schools. If not, and you do well on a DAT retake, then your chances will increase even more.
I hope that provides a little insight. Also, its 1:30 AM, so please excuse any grammatical/spelling errors.
Applying to MUSC, Howard, Creighton, Nova, Kentucky, Tennessee, Augusta, and UNC chapel hill
Do you live in NC? If not OOS at UNC would be a big reach.
WesternU
ASDOH
USC
NYU
TOURO
UNLV
LECOM
NOVA
Midwestern
temple
marquette
We have the same RC score and I've gotten 2 interviews so far! Don't lose hope!1st time
PAT:17
QR: 14
RC: 20
Bio: 17
GC: 19
OC: 19
TS: 18
AA: 18
2nd Time
PAT:19
QR: 17
RC: 16
Bio: 21
GC: 20
OC: 23
TS: 21
AA: 19
This is my second time applying to dental school and retaking my DAT. I ruled out nearly all the schools that require at least a certain DAT score for a certain section. The RC is killing me long story short I came in a minute late for the RC part and it messed me up real bad. I improved drastically on my sciences and I really don't want to retake my DAT.
my GPA: 3.65 / sGPA : 3.54 plenty of shadowing/work experience and great LOR
I applied to..
WesternU
ASDOH
USC
NYU
TOURO
UNLV
LECOM
NOVA
Midwestern
temple
marquette
what do you guys think and be realistic it won't upset me I gotta do what I gotta do.
Thank you my friend I am praying we both get inWe have the same RC score and I've gotten 2 interviews so far! Don't lose hope!
That's great because I am considered a "disadvantaged student" and I believe my PS is solid so hopefully they see that I improved on everything else and that I have good LORNYU is one of the schools that really cares about RC. I don't get NOVA- a lot of my FL classmates with solid stats/publications/EC were rejected by them. Touro is young enough that they're probably more willing to take risks on candidates. Depending on where you are from, Midwestern, Marquette, LECOM, UNLV, ASDOH may take a chance. Why is USC on there?
Everything but RC went up. That's mostly good. The reason why schools care about the RC is because you are going to see some weird questions on future school exams like the true/false/not related, something incredibly vague where you have to just intuit what exactly they mean by the context of other structures mentioned within a question, the ethics questions, and questions that generally intend to trick you if you don't read carefully.
It is also not just stats. Some schools try to deliberately compose their student body to have a certain amount of diversity of thought and personality so it's not essentially 20 of the same person with superficial differences. At a school as large as NYU, I often find students who remind me strongly of other people. Sometimes they are actual twins. Other times they are separate people with an uncanny resemblance that throws many of us off because we never see them both in the same place at the same time. Don't fret too hard- your job is to make them like you via PS and at the interview.
BumpPA Resident
sGPA: 3.54
oGPA: 3.39
DAT: 20AA, 19TS, 23PAT
Work in dental office: 1500+ hours
Shadowing dental (ortho, perio, OMFS, GP): 100 hours
Research: 1800+ hours - undergrad research in physics & epidemeology - current research computational neurophysiology
Letters of Rec: 1 Periodontist, 1 Orthodontist, 1 Academic Advisor, 1 Physics Research PI
List of schools applied to:
VCU
Temple
MWU-IL
MWU-AZ (interview offered)
Case
Nova
LECOM
Meharry
NYU
Ohio State
NYU
Creighton
UNE (Interview offered)
UKentucky
Pitt
ATSU (Interview completed - 9/11)
ECU (denied)
Loma Linda (denied)
Current research includes brain surgeries on mice using a dental drill and dental acrylic to place glass windows over craniotomy.. pretty unique and greatly builds my dexterity.
I have been decline admission from ECU (residency issue - even though I would be able to get residency before matriculation) and Loma Linda ("not competitive").