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Literally scored over an 800. Like significantly over. I had no idea the scores went that high. I’m in shock 100% right now. All I could do when I saw the score was laugh because I felt trashed after that exam
Congrats! Was this close to your comsaes (if you took any), and how were your combank/comquest averages if you don't mind sharing? No pressure to share of course!
This is what worries me, people get almost 100 points less on comlex compared to comsae/combank assessment.Last two I took were C (550) and the combank assessment (600). So I guess I was in the standard deviation range of those tests
Last two I took were C (550) and the combank assessment (600). So I guess I was in the standard deviation range of those tests
I actually only took one COMSAE and that was form B. I took it a week and a half before COMLEX and scored a 617...so almost spot on.
My comquest average was an 88% at the end of my first and only pass. Uworld was about 79% and COMBANK really didn't matter because the school made me start before I was ready to get serious so it was artificially low. Not that I would recommend even using COMBANK at all though.
The point is, even if you feel terrible like I did as you leave the test, keep your chin up because you very well may have aced it.
From what I can understand, yes. It says that passing is still a 400, so it makes it seem as if they just constructed a 520 average.Question for people to ponder: since last year a 555 was the 50th percentile (per the NBOME score converter for May 2017-April 2018) & this year that vague statement in the score report made it seem that the average is 520; does that mean the new score conversion/standard setting that was happening ended up being around a 35ish point slide? I hope the question I'm asking makes sense to some people.
I wouldn’t waste your time with A. From my experience, and reading others on here, it’s easy and overpredictsWhich Comsae would you recommend to take myself A, B or C?
i concurAlways liked looking at correlations and how other students did. So here is mine:
Comsae D : 664
Comlex Level 1: 652
USMLE NBME and UWSA all together average (took all of them) - 244
USMLE step 1 - 243
The "correlation gurus" can tell you what that means in terms of how those about to take it will do.
For those starting M2 or even M1 I do not have any magic board advice, But my advice for the students starting M2 is to work your butt off during systems before you start studying for Step. By that I mean read, read, read, and read some more to fully understand and grasp a topic and not just memorizing. For example, understanding why in RTA 4 the K serum levels are high rather than just memorizing that they are. This way when you sit to study for boards you will just be reviewing RTA and not trying to memorize and relearn it a month before boards. I fully believe getting 240/600 is having the pure basic fundamental understanding of material. But that's just my opinion. Y'all can look at my post history to see I was not a strong student before med school but nothing like some good old fashioned hard work to push you above and beyond. Not that my scores are above and beyond (I see you 700/250'ers scoffing) but working hard during systems to understand material will set you up during board studying to review the material you already mastered which then sets up you for success on boards.
...Oh and also Zanki.
Good luck!
Which Comsae would you recommend to take myself A, B or C?
uworld 1st pass: 66%
UWSA 1: 232
COMSAE C: 543 before dedicated
COMSAE E: 651 two weeks out
COMSAE B: 651 one week out
COMLEX: 576
Pretty drastic drop from my comsaes
COMLEX Level 1 (taken 5/22) - 627
USMLE Step 1 (taken 5/17) - 229
I used UWorld, Combank, First Aid, Pathoma, Sketchy, and Boards & Beyond to study. I REALLY dropped the ball by not taking a single practice exam (no NBMEs/COMSAEs) except for one practice NBME our school made everyone take...definitely would not recommend doing what I did. Also my school doesn't give us any dedicated time so I started my studying in January. It's been a marathon of a semester.
Congrats on two really great scores! How did you think the test was compared to Combank, if you don't mind me asking (since you didn't take any comsaes). Thanks in advance!
The vignettes were significantly longer compared to Combank, but I had some questions that were basically Combank questions worded a little differently. I'm typically a fast test taker and have never worried about timing on an exam, but I struggled with that on the COMLEX. If I could go back, I'd probably take a few COMSAEs just to prepare myself for the length of the questions on there.
Thanks for the info! In terms of content though, you felt like combank was decently representative (minus the wtf questions that everyone gets and nobody can prepare for)?
I only did about 40% of the Combank questions and tried to mainly use their OPP questions (mainly did UWorld for everything else) so I don't know how representative Combank is as far as a blueprint of the real test. I remember my COMLEX being a bit more microbio and path heavy, but honestly I took it 2 months ago and don't remember too much about it anymore...actively suppressing those memories lol
Haha fair enough! I'm always scared when I see people posting their uworld averages (because they are so high on SDN), anyway congrats on being done!
My first pass average was only 68% on UWorld and I did pretty well on both exams
For those waiting,
UWorld first pass timed/random: 66%
Averaged 639 on Comsaes B, C and E over three weeks, all in the 600-700 range.
Comlex Level 1: 650+
Left the exam feeling like I probably passed but had no idea how I did. I thought it was very difficult compared to Comsaes and barely finished. I worked insanely hard in years 1 and 2 to build a solid foundation and did well in coursework. There is no magical substitute board prep resource for this. There were many questions I answered because I remembered some odd fact from coursework and not from dedicated.
Yeah, long question stems and people barely finishing in time worries me. I did Comsae and I finished with only 5 min to spare. Considering everyone is saying Comlex has longer questions - I'm screwed? I can improve knowledge, but I can't improve my ability to read and think faster. I'm bummed, because it feels like a reading competition instead of knowledge. Puts slower test takers in disadvantage imho
My school gave us Combank so I tried it out and only ended up using it for OMM. I felt UWorld was a better use of my time since it revealed more of my knowledge gaps (started out around 40-50%) and had better explanations with thought-provoking questions. Never did Comquest. The real thing had a mix of basic recall that you either know or you don’t mixed in with UWorld level difficulty imo. Nothing prepared me for the looooonng stems on the majority of questions and you had to be quick about sorting out what was important and what was being asked. I had no time to go back so I’d guess and move on since I was always behind.Congratulations! If you did Combank/Comquest/Uworld, how did you think the difficulty of the questions on there compared to the real exam (seems like the real exam questions are much longer)?
Hey everyone. took the exam on the 17th. I kept running out of time, I was ten minutes behind every block. had to guess on a few questions. was literally trembling during the exam bc I was running out of time. Had a few tough pharm questions. i felt like i didn't have time to even process the questions and think about the answers. I tried reading the question before even reading the stem and sometimes it helped other times it didn't. i had more biochem questions than I was expecting. some questions had 2 tables. I did combank and finished each block with 10 mins left but during the exam I was running out of time. I hope I passed. honestly felt like I was just clicking random answers. holy f, so many respiratory phys questions. oh and farkin cardio. had a few murmur questions. overall it was a tough exam. foirgot to mention. so many histo slides. The stem helped me a little but dam I had 3-4 histo slides and had to use my best educational guess
ps: im a below avg student .
A lot of questions just have a lot of fluff. Maybe you could try developing some kind of strategy like reading the first and last sentences first and then working your way backwards or jumping straight to lab values to answer questions.Yeah, long question stems and people barely finishing in time worries me. I did Comsae and I finished with only 5 min to spare. Considering everyone is saying Comlex has longer questions - I'm screwed? I can improve knowledge, but I can't improve my ability to read and think faster. I'm bummed, because it feels like a reading competition instead of knowledge. Puts slower test takers in disadvantage imho
COMSAE D (April): 481
COMBANK 400 Assessment (MAY):567
NBME 13 (June): 215
NBME 18 (July): 223
COMSAE C (July): 649
Took NBME 19 today 3 days away from Step 1. Got 225 :/. Kinda disappointed. I took COMLEX this past Tuesday. I came out of that prometric hoping I passed.
Essentially what we've been reading here. I didn't take them seriously but I was proved wrong. Questions were long. There were videos half a minute long.
On another note, I took UWSA 2 today. Got 234. At this point, I really just want at least 230.
How was it in terms of content? Did you feel like it tested high yield topics most of the time or was it mostly random low yield info not found in FA or your studying? Your uworld scores are really amazing, good luck with Step 1!
UWSA 2? I thought it was more difficult than any NBMEs I have taken. Heavy on biochem. Plenty of random low yield info. Thankfully, the curve is more generous than NBME
Sorry I meant COMLEX haha. Yeah the nbme don't seem as difficult as Uworld but I heard they're still good at predicting.
I'm taking the comlex soon and am kind of freaking out! @_@''
I keep reading/hearing that COMLEX was heavy on this or that but from my experience, it was well balanced. It was more like COMSAE C in terms of content distribution but with much longer question stems.
OMM was doable. I didn't study the techniques in detail (positions, etc.) and I think I did fine. Just know the core principles. Savarese is enough.
I thought I crushed the COMLEX and did poorly on the USMLE, but if anything it was the other way around! I guess I can't tell what my percentile is yet though.
Goal scores: step 1 - 240, comlex - 600
Actual scores:
Step 1: 237
COMLEX: 543
NBMEs: steady around 230 1 week out
UWSAs: both were 245 a month and a week out
COMSAEs: form a (12/17) 410, form d (3/18): 528, form e (5/18): 550
I really thought I could reach close to 600 considering that I scored a 550 a month before the exam. Kind of disappointing that I didn't reach my goal scores, but hey it could be worse. I thought that UWSA2 was supposed to be the closest predictor but clearly it overpredicted for me.
I thought I crushed the COMLEX and did poorly on the USMLE, but if anything it was the other way around! I guess I can't tell what my percentile is yet though.
Goal scores: step 1 - 240, comlex - 600
Actual scores:
Step 1: 237
COMLEX: 543
NBMEs: steady around 230 1 week out
UWSAs: both were 245 a month and a week out
COMSAEs: form a (12/17) 410, form d (3/18): 528, form e (5/18): 550
I really thought I could reach close to 600 considering that I scored a 550 a month before the exam. Kind of disappointing that I didn't reach my goal scores, but hey it could be worse. I thought that UWSA2 was supposed to be the closest predictor but clearly it overpredicted for me.
I think schools are making 450 the cutoff for COMSAEs because it allows a margin of error in either direction but indicates the student is likely to make the passing 400 score on COMLEX. lt's probably just to feel more confident that the student will pass, not because COMLEX is raising the minimum passing score.More likely than the rumor going around of raising the passing score to 450 since most DO schools require a 450 on COMSAEs to get an OK to take the exam (however, I've seen schools allow students to take it if they feel ready even if their COMSAEs was <450) or students opting to take a known "easy" COMSAE form like A and getting a 450+ (although I've heard that form in particular could give a false sense of confidence and has historically over predicted students at our school).
When does the NBOME update the percentile calculator so it has the current testing cycle?