intra-articular toradol?

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I had an attending back in medical school who who inject a mix of lidocaine, toradol, and methylprednisilone (i think that was the steroid...) into joints for things such as Knee/ankle OA

any one have any thoughts or experience with this? is this a good/bad idea?

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J Back Musculoskelet Rehabil. 2011;24(1):31-8.
Rapid analgesic onset of intra-articular hyaluronic acid with ketorolac in osteoarthritis of the knee.
Lee SC, Rha DW, Chang WH.
Source
Department of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, Myongji Hospital, Kwandong University College of Medicine, Koyang, Kyunggi, Korea.
Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
The purpose of this study was to evaluate the efficacy of intra-articular ketorolac to improve intra-articular hyaluronic acid (HA) therapy in knee osteoarthritis with respect to the initiation of pain relief.
METHODS:
This study was designed as a single-blind study with a blinded observer and a 3-month follow-up. Forty-three patients with knee osteoarthritis were randomized to the ketorolac group (n=21) or the HA group (n=22). Ketorolac group members were given three weekly intra-articular injections of HA with ketorolac and then two weekly intra-articular injections of HA; and HA group members were given five weekly intra-articular HA injections. Visual analog scale (VAS), pain rating score (PRS) and adverse events were assessed at baseline and at 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 16th week after treatment commencement.
RESULTS:
Significant improvement regarding pain assessment tools was observed in the ketorolac group by the addition of ketorolac to HA as compared with the HA group within 16 weeks of follow-up (p < 0.05). In the ketorolac group, 5 of the 21 subjects developed focal post-injection knee pain for about 8 hours after injection.
CONCLUSION:
Intra-articular HA with ketorolac showed more rapid analgesic onset than intra-articular HA alone and did not induce any serious complications.


Knee Surg Sports Traumatol Arthrosc. 2004 Nov;12(6):552-5. Epub 2004 Jun 9.
Analgesic effect of intra-articular ketorolac in knee arthroscopy: comparison of morphine and bupivacaine.
Calmet J, Esteve C, Boada S, Giné J.
Source
Orthopedic Surgery Service, Hospital Universitari de Tarragona Joan XXIII, Rovira i Virgili University, Mallafré Guasch 4, 43007, Tarragona, Spain. [email protected]
Abstract
This prospective study assessed the postoperative analgesic effect of intra-articular ketorolac, morphine, and bupivacaine during arthroscopic outpatient partial meniscectomy. Group 1 patients (n=20) received postoperative injection of 60 mg intra-articular ketorolac, group 2 patients (n=20) 10 cc intra-articular bupivacaine 0.25%, group 3 patients (n=20) 1 mg intra-articular morphine diluted in 10 cc saline, and group 4 patients (n=20, controls) only 10 cc saline. We evaluated the postoperative analgesic effect (period measured from the end of the surgery until further analgesia was demanded), the level of postoperative pain (by visual analog scale 1, 2, 3, 12, and 24 h after surgery), and the need for additional pain medication (during the first 24 h after surgery). The best analgesic effect was in patients treated with intra-articular ketorolac, and this was statistically significant in: postoperative analgesic effect and the need for additional pain medication immediately after surgery, and after 24 h. No complications were found related to the intra-articular treatment. We conclude that 60 mg intra-articular ketorolac provides better analgesic effect than 10 cc intra-articular bupivacaine 0.25% or 1 mg intra-articular morphine.
 
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thanks 101N.

believe it or not, this lazy resident (me) did do a pubmed search. I found articles on use for post knee surgery pain control... not so many on routine use for knee OA such as the first article.

Just not sure how many people are out there in the community practicing this way. if there are few responses, I am more inclined to think it is not such a common practice... with unknown/questionable long-term risks vs rewards

thanks again for the help
 
thanks 101N.

believe it or not, this lazy resident (me) did do a pubmed search. I found articles on use for post knee surgery pain control... not so many on routine use for knee OA such as the first article.

Just not sure how many people are out there in the community practicing this way. if there are few responses, I am more inclined to think it is not such a common practice... with unknown/questionable long-term risks vs rewards

thanks again for the help

If you are in training why don't you run it past the ortho folks at your place of residency. Since ketorolac isn't FDA approved for this application my concern would be avoiding something like PAGCL in the knee.
 
IA Toradol: Never done it, never seen it, never heard of it. How does a short acting NSAID make any long term difference in a degenerative process?

I would not inject NSAID into the joint space.
 
NSAID Shots Better Than Cortisone for Shoulder Pain
Nancy A. Melville

July 15, 2011 (San Diego, California) — A single injection of the nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) ketorolac shows superiority over corticosteroid injections in the treatment of shoulder impingement syndrome, according to a double-blind, randomized study presented here at the American Orthopaedic Society for Sports Medicine (AOSSM) 2011 Annual Meeting.

Corticosteroid injections are a common treatment for subacromial impingement syndrome; however, they are associated with some adverse effects, including tendon rupture, subcutaneous atrophy, and changes to articular cartilage. Previous research has shown, meanwhile, that NSAID injections also have efficacy in treating such patients.

In an effort to compare the 2 treatment approaches, researchers enrolled 48 patients diagnosed with isolated external shoulder impingement syndrome.

The patients were randomly assigned to receive either a single injection of 6 cc of 1% lidocaine with epinephrine and 40 mg triamcinolone or 6 cc of 1% lidocaine with epinephrine and 60 mg ketorolac.

Improvement was assessed according to the University of California– Los Angeles Shoulder Assessment Score, and the results at a 4-week follow-up visit showed that patients in both treatment groups had increased range of motion and decreased pain.

The mean improvement in the assessment score for the NSAID group, however, was 7.15 compared with just 2.13 in the steroid group (P = .03).

The NSAID group showed an increase in forward flexion strength (NSAID, 0.26; steroid, &#8722;0.07; P = .04) and improved patient satisfaction over the steroid group.

"These results demonstrate that both groups had good immediate response. However, only the NSAID group had a sustained response," said lead author Kyong Su Min, MD, from the Madigan Healthcare System in Tacoma, Washington.

"Two clinically important and pertinent advantages of NSAID injections are that there is no reported tissue atrophy or cartilage damage with NSAID injections, and the injections are not limited by frequency," he added.

The relief provided by the subacromial injection of both ketorolac and triamcinolone is believed to result from the drugs' local anti-inflammatory effect, he noted.

Ketorolac injections are often used in settings such as college athletics because of their robust pain-relieving properties, said Christian Lattermann, MD, an assistant professor of orthopaedic surgery and sports medicine from the University of Kentucky in Lexington.

"They are extremely powerful and have been used a lot in college sports as a pain medication because of their extremely strong anti-inflammatory effect," explained Dr. Lattermann, who is director of the university's Center for Cartilage Repair and Restoration Medical Center.

Although sparing patients some of the adverse effects of corticosteroid injections, however, the treatment is not without some adverse effects of its own, he cautioned.

"Ketorolac injections are not completely without side effects. They can cause bleeding, and you also have to make sure the kidneys are okay before using them, for instance. In addition, patients cannot take oral NSAIDs while they're receiving injections, so those are some down sides," he noted.

"If someone has a gastric ulcer, you shouldn't use it, and it's not entirely clear whether, in those high of doses, it is more or less detrimental to the rotary cuff than cortisone," Dr. Lattermann stated.

The study is valuable, however, in demonstrating ketorolac's potential efficacy in comparison to corticosteroid injections.

"I think it's a valid study and a very interesting idea and suggests ketorolac may be a useful alternative, particularly if corticosteroid treatment failed," Dr. Lattermann.

The study's authors and Dr. Lattermann have disclosed no relevant financial relationships.

American Orthopaedic Society for Sports Medicine (AOSSM) 2011 Annual Meeting: Abstract 34. Presented July 10, 2011.
 
thank you =)

You are on to something.

I remember back in my residency thinking, 'dang somebody should hook up DMSO as a carrier for topical meds. Low and behold: Pensaid:)

Keep up the good work!
 
That is very interesting. If we are calling this a treatment for tedinopathy(impingement) I wonder if the mechanism of action is truly anti- inflammatory and what other conditions it could be used? SI, Facet??

Does anyone have a pdf of the paper or abstract they can share?

Thanks
 
on a related note, what does everyone use for trigger point injections?

I have heard of

1) dry needling, (or saline) to "break up adhesions" in the muscles

2) local anesthetic

3) LA + ketoralac

4) LA + ketoralac + steroid


are a lot of people injecting steroids into muscles? is this a good/bad idea?
 
on a related note, what does everyone use for trigger point injections?

I have heard of

1) dry needling, (or saline) to "break up adhesions" in the muscles

2) local anesthetic

3) LA + ketoralac

4) LA + ketoralac + steroid


are a lot of people injecting steroids into muscles? is this a good/bad idea?

I'll find the reference tomorrow when I'm back at the office but steroids have no added benefit when doing TP and cause skin dimpling.

I use 1% lidocaine plain, and just infiltrate enough to lessen the post injection soreness. The pain relief was equal between dry needling and local alone.
 
on a related note, what does everyone use for trigger point injections?

I have heard of

1) dry needling, (or saline) to "break up adhesions" in the muscles

2) local anesthetic

3) LA + ketoralac

4) LA + ketoralac + steroid


are a lot of people injecting steroids into muscles? is this a good/bad idea?

I use 0.25% bupivicaineor 0.5% lidocaine.
 
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