Disagree completely. Biden has done well on Ukraine. If he capitulates on Ukraine It will embolden China on Taiwan, Encourage Iran to develop nuclear weapons for it would show that nuclear blackmail works, Reward Russia in its war of aggression.
With victory for Ukraine.
Fair. Although Biden didn’t start this war, his admin is fully funding it. Many would argue his admin did not do enough to prevent the war, and continue to not work hard enough to come to a compromise.
Wtf?
Half of Americans today would side with Russia so I’m not surprised with this logic.
I’m not pro-Russia, although I do doubt I would have much of a problem with random Joe Russian guy on the street of Moscow.
I get that view and for an isolationist it is logical. If you believe that global geopolitics are important and worthy of investment however then Ukraine really is a no brainer. We give them money and weapons (that we made so we're really paying our own defense contractors not Ukraine) and they wear down one of our greatest geopolitical adversaries. The political, economic, and manpower damage to Russia is worth much more than what we have paid and no American lives lost.
With Russia's ability to wage war severely diminished going forward for at least a decade.
I know right? How dare those Ukrainians fight back against an invasion
I'm in my 30s and I'm not sure I've ever felt Russian was "one of our greatest geopolitical adversaries" during my lifetime although I do appreciate the historical context I guess? The Berlin wall fell 34 years ago, and the USSR dissolved 32 years ago.
I have to say, I do see your argument and when it comes to the “us” vs “them” we use to justify our stances, I’m always cautious of the motive. I’m done chasing ideas such as “freedoms” and “democracy.”
I know this is a political thread but I’m not sure we’re never a nuke away from Russia, China, or North Korea.
I think people fail to realize that Trump was good for China and Russia. China/Russia were happier when the US was shooting itself in the foot.
Things are going great, though I feel bad for the Ukrainians who're suffering at the hands of the Russians.
You mean the strategy the west employed to encourage the end of the war the last time Russia invaded Ukraine (and took Crimea)? That little bit of appeasement and hope didn't work out so well, no.
If Russia wasn't such a bad actor that would be an excellent solution since economic partnership is the best deterrent to war in existence. The problem is that Russia wouldn't be content to leave it at that.
Interesting article.
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Because we promised Ukraine we would 100% support them if they didnt develop nuclear weapons. They did what they said they would do. Should we be a people of our word? Or should we say like we did 1000x with native Americans “haha. You are so dumb for trusting us.”
Yeah, republicans are stupid as sh1t, almost as dumb as democrats, but not quite (pretty close though).
Please explain. I’ve asked you this before but didn’t get an answer.
Say what? Which war did Biden start?
Yeah that's never going to happen lol.
That isn’t a subthread of anesthesia. No way I am posting there.
I think the point is that politics isn't anesthesia specific? None of the other forums on this website allow discussions to this extent. Some threads from here have been punted over to SPF. Its most doctors over there though there is also occasional college kids or students or spouses etc.
As you know, this is very debatable and likely could never be decided by someone who sees so obviously through rose colored glasses.
I don’t disagree.
We certainly have been involved with Ukraine for a long time by helping overthrow the pro-Russian government that they had not too long ago.
