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Naw man. Any dude who acts like that would just be wasting a quality woman's time.

I was operating under the assumption that a higher quality woman would require him to become a higher quality man to become her partner but it should have been stated explicitly. Part of the reason you have a better life with a better partner is because you have to become a better person to attract them.....it's not all because they are better

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I was operating under the assumption that a higher quality woman would require him to become a higher quality man to become her partner but it should have been stated explicitly. Part of the reason you have a better life with a better partner is because you have to become a better person to attract them.....it's not all because they are better
ahh aight I pick up what you're throwing down.
 
I was operating under the assumption that a higher quality woman would require him to become a higher quality man to become her partner but it should have been stated explicitly. Part of the reason you have a better life with a better partner is because you have to become a better person to attract them.....it's not all because they are better
Woah now, logical comments like that about women have no place in this thread.
 
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I was operating under the assumption that a higher quality woman would require him to become a higher quality man to become her partner but it should have been stated explicitly. Part of the reason you have a better life with a better partner is because you have to become a better person to attract them.....it's not all because they are better

I believe in the law of attraction. That's my point. People complaining about not finding anyone need to work on their own self.

Finding someone to hang out with is beyond easy. It's always amusing (to me) when people get defensive over a simple truth and still want to believe a part of the problem isn't them. Can be "too busy", "too cute", "intimidating", or blah blah blah? But for what percentage of the dating-impaired population can that really be true? :)
 
I probably shouldn't write this but: There's nothing in this world easier to get than vagina. You could get sex easier than $20 from strangers, LOL!

Someone that has issues dating is usually the problem. Guys that have some weird mommy issue, not really that into girls, ongoing conflicts with women, poor self-esteem, etc.. send out a huge red flag to women.

The higher level math analogy makes sense but I'm more interested in understanding Jake than women or how they think. I already love them waaaaaayyyy too much, LOL! Any further understanding would likely land me in treatment for addiction. :)

Or just people that don't base their lives around satisfaction from other people. My expectations of myself are 10x more difficult to achieve than someone else's of me.
 
Was crying myself to sleep last night again :( . So many people have supported me in my life, my friends, family, gym buddies, tutors, professors, etc...and what have I given them? A chubby fool at the bottom of his class.

I feel terrible...

I probably shouldn't write this but: There's nothing in this world easier to get than vagina. You could get sex easier than $20 from strangers, LOL!

Someone that has issues dating is usually the problem. Guys that have some weird mommy issue, not really that into girls, ongoing conflicts with women, poor self-esteem, etc.. send out a huge red flag to women.

The higher level math analogy makes sense but I'm more interested in understanding Jake than women or how they think. I already love them waaaaaayyyy too much, LOL! Any further understanding would likely land me in treatment for addiction. :)

Lol, I have no doubt you can pull. But if I were to put you in my body, you probably couldn't get laid in a morgue lol.

I was operating under the assumption that a higher quality woman would require him to become a higher quality man to become her partner but it should have been stated explicitly. Part of the reason you have a better life with a better partner is because you have to become a better person to attract them.....it's not all because they are better

Now hold on a second: this is exactly what I said I was doing: becoming a better person (gaining money, status, and muscles) before I look for my life partner. But you guys just make fun of me for it.

I mean, I just look at it logically. Pulling bishes is hard enough. Pulling a fine bish (for example, like Winged Scapula reports she was/is) is near impossible. These bishes are fine and they know it, and in the words of TI, they "don't want no mediocre." I have no doubt that these bishes bathe in male attention, that they get offers from cool, charming, funny guys all the time, multiple times a day probably.

So then who would they go with? The highest bidder. The dude who has all of that, and has the Benz and the bankrolls to top it off.


My plan was to become a beast on the bench and on the books so I could get the money and muscles to play in the big leagues. But that seems to have hit a snag, to say the least.


Oh, the TI song I mentioned (NSFW)

 
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Was crying myself to sleep last night again :( . So many people have supported me in my life, my friends, family, gym buddies, tutors, professors, etc...and what have I given them? A chubby fool at the bottom of his class.

I feel terrible...



Lol, I have no doubt you can pull. But if I were to put you in my body, you probably couldn't get laid in a morgue lol.



Now hold on a second: this is exactly what I said I was doing: becoming a better person (gaining money, status, and muscles) before I look for my life partner. But you guys just make fun of me for it.

I mean, I just look at it logically. Pulling bishes is hard enough. Pulling a fine bish (for example, like Winged Scapula reports she was/is) is near impossible. These bishes are fine and they know it, and in the words of TI, they "don't want no mediocre." I have no doubt that these bishes bathe in male attention, that they get offers from cool, charming, funny guys all the time, multiple times a day probably.

So then who would they go with? The highest bidder. The dude who has all of that, and has the Benz and the bankrolls to top it off.


My plan was to become a beast on the bench and on the books so I could get the money and muscles to play in the big leagues. But that seems to have hit a snag, to say the least.
Idk why your defense mechanisms aren't kicking in to shield you from some of this stuff. Denial, projection, intellectualization would all work pretty well here...
 
Was crying myself to sleep last night again :( . So many people have supported me in my life, my friends, family, gym buddies, tutors, professors, etc...and what have I given them? A chubby fool at the bottom of his class.

I feel terrible...



Lol, I have no doubt you can pull. But if I were to put you in my body, you probably couldn't get laid in a morgue lol.



Now hold on a second: this is exactly what I said I was doing: becoming a better person (gaining money, status, and muscles) before I look for my life partner. But you guys just make fun of me for it.

I mean, I just look at it logically. Pulling bishes is hard enough. Pulling a fine bish (for example, like Winged Scapula reports she was/is) is near impossible. These bishes are fine and they know it, and in the words of TI, they "don't want no mediocre." I have no doubt that these bishes bathe in male attention, that they get offers from cool, charming, funny guys all the time, multiple times a day probably.

So then who would they go with? The highest bidder. The dude who has all of that, and has the Benz and the bankrolls to top it off.


My plan was to become a beast on the bench and on the books so I could get the money and muscles to play in the big leagues. But that seems to have hit a snag, to say the least.


Oh, the TI song I mentioned NSFW)



I think if you stopped referring to them as "bishes" and called them women it would be a good start towards attracting them.
 
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Was crying myself to sleep last night again :( . So many people have supported me in my life, my friends, family, gym buddies, tutors, professors, etc...and what have I given them? A chubby fool at the bottom of his class.

I feel terrible...



Lol, I have no doubt you can pull. But if I were to put you in my body, you probably couldn't get laid in a morgue lol.



Now hold on a second: this is exactly what I said I was doing: becoming a better person (gaining money, status, and muscles) before I look for my life partner. But you guys just make fun of me for it.

I mean, I just look at it logically. Pulling bishes is hard enough. Pulling a fine bish (for example, like Winged Scapula reports she was/is) is near impossible. These bishes are fine and they know it, and in the words of TI, they "don't want no mediocre." I have no doubt that these bishes bathe in male attention, that they get offers from cool, charming, funny guys all the time, multiple times a day probably.

So then who would they go with? The highest bidder. The dude who has all of that, and has the Benz and the bankrolls to top it off.


My plan was to become a beast on the bench and on the books so I could get the money and muscles to play in the big leagues. But that seems to have hit a snag, to say the least
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You can get into bigger leagues by your behavior than your physical features though. I've seen dudes that are overweight and don't even take care of themselves get with solid women because they simply know how to act. I've also seen a lot of dudes that are 6 2 220 that fail to do so because they have 0 idea how to use their mouth without sounding like a complete idiot. Your whole approach sets you up for failure. You act like women are the prize and you have to somehow prove yourself to them. What about them proving themselves to you? It requires mutual interest and it's pretty telling about your mentality if your interest can be made instantly(visually) and their's cannot. You need to consider yourself more valuable before anything else if you want to change your stuff up. I don't care if you are a chubby fool or not, you're never going to do well if you consciously think that about yourself. Pretend you're Derek Jeter.
 
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You can get into bigger leagues by your behavior than your physical features though. I've seen dudes that are overweight and don't even take care of themselves get with solid women because they simply know how to act. I've also seen a lot of dudes that are 6 2 220 that fail to do so because they have 0 idea how to use their mouth without sounding like a complete idiot. Your whole approach sets you up for failure. You act like women are the prize and you have to somehow prove yourself to them. What about them proving themselves to you? It requires mutual interest and it's pretty telling about your mentality if your interest can be made instantly(visually) and their's cannot. You need to consider yourself more valuable before anything else if you want to change your stuff up. I don't care if you are a chubby fool or not, you're never going to do well if you consciously think that about yourself. Pretend you're Derek Jeter.

I mean, I like the way that sounds, but in truth aren't women the ones with all the power? They get to sit there and decide what guys they want or don't want.
 
I mean, I like the way that sounds, but in truth aren't women the ones with all the power? They get to sit there and decide what guys they want or don't want.

Says who? You still have to decide you want them dude. You're the one giving the power when you go home and night and think " I suck bc I want to get with XYZ and can't." a) You don't suck bc you can't get with a girl. b) there's millions just like her, you'll find another
 
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Was crying myself to sleep last night again :( . So many people have supported me in my life, my friends, family, gym buddies, tutors, professors, etc...and what have I given them? A chubby fool at the bottom of his class.

I feel terrible...



Lol, I have no doubt you can pull. But if I were to put you in my body, you probably couldn't get laid in a morgue lol.



Now hold on a second: this is exactly what I said I was doing: becoming a better person (gaining money, status, and muscles) before I look for my life partner. But you guys just make fun of me for it.

I mean, I just look at it logically. Pulling bishes is hard enough. Pulling a fine bish (for example, like Winged Scapula reports she was/is) is near impossible. These bishes are fine and they know it, and in the words of TI, they "don't want no mediocre." I have no doubt that these bishes bathe in male attention, that they get offers from cool, charming, funny guys all the time, multiple times a day probably.

So then who would they go with? The highest bidder. The dude who has all of that, and has the Benz and the bankrolls to top it off.


My plan was to become a beast on the bench and on the books so I could get the money and muscles to play in the big leagues. But that seems to have hit a snag, to say the least.


Oh, the TI song I mentioned (NSFW)


You really should stop watching rap videos. They aren't real life. And I don't think WS has commented on her looks. The rest of us have said something about her looks, but I don't think she has said it - she says thank you and moves on.
 
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I mean, I like the way that sounds, but in truth aren't women the ones with all the power? They get to sit there and decide what guys they want or don't want.

If you're beta as hell.

For functional adults, a relationship comes about when two partners are pursuing each other, and then one verbalizes their feelings for the other and "the conversation" happens.

Try being a "better person" focusing on more than just your "money, prestige, muscle" and work on your personality.
 
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If you're beta as hell.

For functional adults, a relationship comes about when two partners are pursuing each other, and then one verbalizes their feelings for the other and "the conversation" happens.

Try being a "better person" focusing on more than just your "money, prestige, muscle" and work on your personality.
Agree. When you define better person as "gaining money, status, and muscles", your life will be very empty.
 
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You really should stop watching rap videos. They aren't real life. And I don't think WS has commented on her looks. The rest of us have said something about her looks, but I don't think she has said it - she says thank you and moves on.
This.
Women are people, not bishes.
There's more to being a good person than going to the gym and getting rich.
Rap videos and porn are not real life.
 
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Just to reiterate:

  • Don't refer to women as bishes.
  • Don't refer to a starting a conversation with a woman as "pulling" or "going HAM." You sound like an idiot.
  • You don't need big muscles or fast cars to get a girlfriend. In fact, that'll probably work out worse for you in the long run.
  • Seriously. Stop calling women bishes.
 
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Just to reiterate:

  • Don't refer to women as bishes.
  • Don't refer to a starting a conversation with a woman as "pulling" or "going HAM." You sound like an idiot.
  • You don't need big muscles or fast cars to get a girlfriend. In fact, that'll probably work out worse for you in the long run.
  • Seriously. Stop calling women bishes.

do deadlifts also. preferably both conventional and sumo. compete w/ whatever is stronger though
 
do deadlifts also. preferably both conventional and sumo. compete w/ whatever is stronger though

My body is built for conv, I have super long limbs and a small torso.
 
My body is built for conv, I have super long limbs and a small torso.

Interesting, I'd still do sumo as well in training. From what I've seen the correlation between sumo vs conv tends to do more with body weight rather than body proportions. At least in the IPF worlds, most people 231 and under were pulling sumo, whereas the real big dudes were pulling conventional.
 
Pulling a fine bish (for example, like Winged Scapula reports she was/is) is near impossible.
:p, how do you even get away with stuff like that.

this like playing path of exile, you wont get to the princess until you slay some beasts.

Pro tip: don't use bishes in sdn, they don't like it it, you can start using it in real life though, some girls will find your ballsy words very sexy.
 
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