Are you originally from Orlando, Endee?
Can someone answer this for me...
How come Miami has the busiest Hospital in the nation, yet it's hospital rankings aren't supberb (with the excpetion of Bascom Palmer)? There are plenty of underserved individuals in Miami, yet they aren't even ranked for Primary Care. That is what struck me as most odd about interviewing there.
Emory has the 2nd busiest Hospital in the Nation and is a highly respectable University.
Are you originally from Orlando, Endee?
Someone please pinch me! I just got the call from USF!!! I'm in!!!!
I still cannot believe it! I think I screamed louder than Mary Murphy when I found out!
Good luck to everyone else!!!
Oh my God! CONGRATULATIONS!!!! Weren't you bumped down to mid waitlist as well? If that's the case, hopefully I'll hear something soon!!
Who cares where you go to Undergrad. As long as your GPA is stellar and well above the average Pre-Med's GPA in your school, you have a competitive GPA, and plenty of ECs, you will be competitive yourself. Ofcourse the better the institution, the more resources will be available to you, but I think it's pretty insignifcant. If you're an overachiever and focused on medical school, you will succeed, regardless of which Florida school you went to.
Yeah, yeah UF is the **** in Florida, but when I interviewed up North (Michigan, Pitt) and even in the West (Colorado), the only thing my interviewers and applicants knew about the Gators is that they win Championships. I used to think I was the **** because I went to the best school in Florida but trust me, noone cares and either should you I guess this may be a little off-topic, but I'm sure some of you will also be applying OOS. In my interview at Florida there were students from FIU and UNF. I'll be going to UVA in the Fall, and there's also a student from FSU in the class. Don't be discouraged if you don't go to one of the 'elite' schools in Florida. You will be as equally qualified if you have a high GPA and competitive MCAT score.
Your undergraduate institution DOES play a role in the admissions process, so don't fool yourself into thinking it doesn't matter at all where you went to college; graduating from a school that is known as being more rigorous is frankly more impressive than graduating from one that is known for grade inflation and adcoms tend to take that into consideration. That being said,Who cares where you go to Undergrad. As long as your GPA is stellar and well above the average Pre-Med's GPA in your school, you have a competitive GPA, and plenty of ECs, you will be competitive yourself. Ofcourse the better the institution, the more resources will be available to you, but I think it's pretty insignifcant. If you're an overachiever and focused on medical school, you will succeed, regardless of which Florida school you went to.
Yeah, yeah UF is the **** in Florida, but when I interviewed up North (Michigan, Pitt) and even in the West (Colorado), the only thing my interviewers and applicants knew about the Gators is that they win Championships. I used to think I was the **** because I went to the best school in Florida but trust me, noone cares and either should you I guess this may be a little off-topic, but I'm sure some of you will also be applying OOS. In my interview at Florida there were students from FIU and UNF. I'll be going to UVA in the Fall, and there's also a student from FSU in the class. Don't be discouraged if you don't go to one of the 'elite' schools in Florida. You will be as equally qualified if you have a high GPA and competitive MCAT score.
Your undergraduate institution DOES play a role in the admissions process, so don't fool yourself into thinking it doesn't matter at all where you went to college; graduating from a school that is known as being more rigorous is frankly more impressive than graduating from one that is known for grade inflation and adcoms tend to take that into consideration. That being said,
I agree with the quoted statement above that if you perform towards the top of your class at virtually any institution (community colleges are an exception) and score well on the MCAT you put yourself in a competitive position regarding medical school admissions, provided the rest of your application is equally as stellar. Interestingly enough, I found the same to be true when applied to residency application as a medical student.
Mike- question: for entrance into a competitive residency I've heard that research is a MUST. How much emphasis do you think is given to med students who've performed research versus those who decided to volunteer in health clinics or overseas?
This is a common question since many premeds and medical students are striving to get into the relatively few coveted "competitive" residency positions. And there's good reason to ask, as I wondered the same thing myself years ago.
The importance of extracurricular activities varies from specialty to specialty. Research is much less important to match into primary care fields (there are exceptions, say if you want to match into a top-tier academic program). Research IS very important if you want to match into a competitive program like dermatology, radiation oncology, plastics, ortho, ENT, etc. Speaking from personal experience, having research under my belt was the difference between me matching into radiation oncology and not. The vast majority, if not everyone, who matches into a field like radiation oncology has research experience (there's a significant number of MD PhDs who apply as well). Keep in mind research can be both clinical or done in the lab. For your purposes, do what I did - get involved in clinical research which involves going through data and finding significant ties somewhere. I worked on my research for probably 4 months during my 4th year of medical school. Going into the lab and doing benchwork takes A LOT of time to get something published or presented, and that's what you need. You essentially didn't do anything if you don't have a final product. If you want to do research, I would just start asking faculty members in your field of interest if they have anything going on that you could help them with that would result in publication.
So, to summarize I'd say research is definitely important for competitive programs. You're trying to make yourself stand out as an applicant and research is really the best way in my mind. Remember most people who are applying for competitive residencies are at or near the top of their classes. Most of the programs have only a few positions available: all of the programs I interviewed at had either 1 or 2 positions. You need to make yourself stand out.
Can you match into something competitive without research? I guess it's possible if your grades and Step scores are incredibly high. But I wouldn't want to go into the match progress without research on my CV knowing I could end up not matching and have to do the match all over again...
On a related question, the friend of mine at UF is wanting to do rad onco and is doing research this summer--the summer after her first year with a clinical study related to an unrelated to field. So my question is this....if you want to match into some competitive specialty i.e. rads, rad onco, derm, plastics, etc. and you are doing a research project, does it matter whether you are doing research within a different field of medicine or should it be related to the field of medicine you are trying to match into???? I'm just curious cuz I know someone who wants to match into your field and is currently doing some neurosurg related research up at UF.
Good question. I was wondering the exact same thing. Also, When is the earliest med students start doing research?
Has anyone heard anything from Miami lately? I haven't heard of any confirmed movements in a while.
I know someone who was accepted on the 18th.
On a related question, the friend of mine at UF is wanting to do rad onco and is doing research this summer--the summer after her first year with a clinical study related to an unrelated to field. So my question is this....if you want to match into some competitive specialty i.e. rads, rad onco, derm, plastics, etc. and you are doing a research project, does it matter whether you are doing research within a different field of medicine or should it be related to the field of medicine you are trying to match into???? I'm just curious cuz I know someone who wants to match into your field and is currently doing some neurosurg related research up at UF.
Good question. I was wondering the exact same thing. Also, When is the earliest med students start doing research?
The summer after 1st year and 4th year are the most common times to do research during med school. It's possible to do research throughout med school, but it takes a special someone to be able to still do well in school and get the research done. It's not worth sacrificing grades for research since grades are one of the primary things that residency program directors use to evaluate applicants.
This is a common question since many premeds and medical students are striving to get into the relatively few coveted "competitive" residency positions. And there's good reason to ask, as I wondered the same thing myself years ago.
The importance of extracurricular activities varies from specialty to specialty. Research is much less important to match into primary care fields (there are exceptions, say if you want to match into a top-tier academic program). Research IS very important if you want to match into a competitive program like dermatology, radiation oncology, plastics, ortho, ENT, etc. Speaking from personal experience, having research under my belt was the difference between me matching into radiation oncology and not. The vast majority, if not everyone, who matches into a field like radiation oncology has research experience (there's a significant number of MD PhDs who apply as well). Keep in mind research can be both clinical or done in the lab. For your purposes, do what I did - get involved in clinical research which involves going through data and finding significant ties somewhere. I worked on my research for probably 4 months during my 4th year of medical school. Going into the lab and doing benchwork takes A LOT of time to get something published or presented, and that's what you need. You essentially didn't do anything if you don't have a final product. If you want to do research, I would just start asking faculty members in your field of interest if they have anything going on that you could help them with that would result in publication.
So, to summarize I'd say research is definitely important for competitive programs. You're trying to make yourself stand out as an applicant and research is really the best way in my mind. Remember most people who are applying for competitive residencies are at or near the top of their classes. Most of the programs have only a few positions available: all of the programs I interviewed at had either 1 or 2 positions. You need to make yourself stand out.
Can you match into something competitive without research? I guess it's possible if your grades and Step scores are incredibly high. But I wouldn't want to go into the match progress without research on my CV knowing I could end up not matching and have to do the match all over again...
I heard that Dr. Hinkley has retired as dean of admissions today.
I am dissapointed the senate failed to pass a bill that would've stopped the Medicare payment cuts scheduled for doctors (implemented today July 1st). This is only going to make physicians see more patients (shorter visits) and perform more unnecessary tests just to maintain a steady income. Furthermore, these actions remove any incentive for physicians to see patients on Medicare (the elderly) anyway.
http://www.acponline.org/clinical_i...acp_internist/weekly/2008/7/1/index.html#cuts
I know not everyone is going to agree- but I'm curious to know how everyone else sees this? If this is a further sign that things are simply getting worse (especially for those in primary care) does it affect your decision to go into medicine?
I heard that Dr. Hinkley has retired as dean of admissions today.
I am dissapointed the senate failed to pass a bill that would've stopped the Medicare payment cuts scheduled for doctors (implemented today July 1st). This is only going to make physicians see more patients (shorter visits) and perform more unnecessary tests just to maintain a steady income. Furthermore, these actions remove any incentive for physicians to see patients on Medicare (the elderly) anyway.
http://www.acponline.org/clinical_i...acp_internist/weekly/2008/7/1/index.html#cuts
I know not everyone is going to agree- but I'm curious to know how everyone else sees this? If this is a further sign that things are simply getting worse (especially for those in primary care) does it affect your decision to go into medicine?
WHAT????????????????????? I'm in shock. I can't believe it. I only met him a few occasions at medical school forums and he was unbelievably friendly and good at what he does. I'm sad to hear that. Do you know the reason why? Like pandulce said, was it health reasons?
I heard he was out for health reasons earlier but dunno if that's why he's retiring. maybe he just found something more entertaining to do than watch us jump through hoops
I have lost my mentor. A great med school dean, admissions professional, and friend. Dr Hinkley projected his departure from our club to me just after the turn of the year. He did have some health maintenance done, but he is fine and looking forward to retirement on his own terms. The only suprise to me was that, unless I misunderstood, he was looking for retirement on August 1. I will miss him, but I am sure that we will remain in touch.
The thing Agnes told me was that when the waitlist moves to near your name, you'll receive an email ab it and asking if you would still like to remain on the waitlist. Then if it moves down, you'll get a phone call and then an email. Well I guess someone accepted on the 18th means there's still some hope left {sigh}
I had to sadly withdraw from UF this morning. I hope this spot goes to somebody soon.
are there any fourth year usf students here i could pm? just have a few questions abt the program... thanks
hey, i would definitely settle for a second year, thank you very much... i guess my question for you is regarding my situation. I'm trying to decide between USF and Nova, I've looked at the match lists from both schools it seems to me that they are very similar to each other. I guess I would like to know if you have any advice for me that you can speak from your experience at USF. What do you recommend? Again, thank you so much for your help.
Hey everyone in the FL thread. Congrats to everyone getting that much anticipated phone call. I haven't been on in a while ever since starting at FSU. I had like 3 days b/w the acceptance and orientation, so for the past month or two things have been pretty hectic; especially considering anatomy practicals and exams. As of today I'm spending some time with my parents and friends and actually enjoying a hot dog; albeit with cranial nerves floating around in my mind so ominously. My advice to those starting in a month or so is to relish the time you currently have. Seriously, enjoy what may very well be the last few weeks of free time.
Aside from that, all I can say is that yes med school is hard work, but it's also awesome in so many ways. Perhaps when histo comes around I may change my tune, but for now it's pretty darn neat. Have a great fourth everyone, and thanks for all your support over the past year.
Hey everyone in the FL thread. Congrats to everyone getting that much anticipated phone call. I haven't been on in a while ever since starting at FSU. I had like 3 days b/w the acceptance and orientation, so for the past month or two things have been pretty hectic; especially considering anatomy practicals and exams. As of today I'm spending some time with my parents and friends and actually enjoying a hot dog; albeit with cranial nerves floating around in my mind so ominously. My advice to those starting in a month or so is to relish the time you currently have. Seriously, enjoy what may very well be the last few weeks of free time.
Aside from that, all I can say is that yes med school is hard work, but it's also awesome in so many ways. Perhaps when histo comes around I may change my tune, but for now it's pretty darn neat. Have a great fourth everyone, and thanks for all your support over the past year.
Dr. Hinkley is retiring in August. He is taking a leave of absence for health reasons and then is returning to help hand-off information to the next Admissions Dean. He will be greatly missed
My boyfriend was accepted off the waitlist at Miami main campus this morning!!!! So, I guess it's just a couple of days between the e-mail they send confirming your interest in staying on the waitlist and actually getting the call! WOOOOOHOOOOO!
My boyfriend was accepted off the waitlist at Miami main campus this morning!!!! So, I guess it's just a couple of days between the e-mail they send confirming your interest in staying on the waitlist and actually getting the call! WOOOOOHOOOOO!
congratulations! hopefully it keeps on moving