You are going to have to do better than that DocCM. Did you think you would sway me to stop believing what I saw with my own eye on F-911 by pointing me to some rightwing propaganda? And you are complaining that Moore donated to the DNC? Your little story on the link you gave is stretching so hard to come up with something to discredit Moore. Trust me my friend, I don't like Michael Moore. I thought his movie was 95% pure entertainment and 5% eye opening. And the part that was eye opening to me was indisputable evidence that my president is a complete and utter idiot. The only other thing I gained from it was a reminder that I had been convinced for over a year prior to its release that we were UNDOUBTEDLY in Iraq because of a known link between Iraq and Al Qaeda. I almost left my first year of med school to rejoin my Marine unit who lost many a Marine in the first week of that war. I like to think I am a reasonably smart person, so if I was convinced that the war was justified in 2003, then what was the uneducated layperson to believe? All they had to go on was the media reports daily of Bush standing in front of a camera swearing to them that their twin towers of rubble were a direct result of Sadam Hussein. I mean lets be serious. Bin Laden hated Hussein because he was everything he hated in Americans.....money hungry, materialistic, and a sex addict!! There was no more collaboration between those two than there was between the Pope and
Robe Low in that sex video blowup!!
But they are both white.....so I suppose so!!
Lastly, here is one example of how your "buddy Kopel" attempts to twist the truth himself in order to make a point not worth making. The attached segment of the article is cut and pasted below. It refers to how Moore was somehow exaggerating when he said that there was only one enlisted member of Congress serving in Iraq...BOG (boots on the ground).
"Moores second statement is technically true, but duplicitous. Of course no-one would want to "sacrifice" his child in any way. But the fact is, Moore's opening ("only one") and his conclusion ("not a single member") are both incorrect. Sergeant Brooks Johnson, the son of South Dakota Democratic Senator Tim Johnson, serves in the 101st Airborne Division and fought in Iraq in 2003. The son of California Republican Representative Duncan Hunter quit his job after September 11, and enlisted in the Marines; his artillery unit was deployed in the heart of insurgent territory in February 2004. Delaware Senator Joseph Biden's son Beau is on active duty in the Judge Advocate General Corps; although Beau Biden has no control over where he is deployed, he has not been sent to Iraq, and therefore does not "count" for Moore's purposes. Seven members of Congress have been confirmed to have children in the military."
Your buddy Kopel refutes it by saying there were actually 2 members of congress who had kids who had served in Iraq. But what you are failing to see is that one was an officer (hence the term used by Moore and evidently not understood by you and your buddy Kopel.....ENLISTED). To become an officer, you do not enlist. Moore was specifically stating that there was one enlisted member from a congressional home. His ENTIRE story surrounded enlisted men and women and the way they are misled by ENLISTED military recruiters. But I'll give you credit and say Moore should have mentioned the officers as well. But even if I give you credit for this one, it comes to a combined total of TWO kids of congressmen serving in Iraq. It in no way changes the point he was making, which is that the VAST majority of ENLISTED servicemembers are young kids from underserved areas with few other choices...and not congressional homes. But your boy Kopel felt compelled to write an entire page on this one stupid fact that has no relevance to the issue.
Is Moore a liar.....embellisher....probably. Do I care? NO
Did Bush look like a complete idiot in that movie F-911? Yes.
Could you have taken every clip Ronald Reagan ever was filmed in and make a movie like that? NO....WHY, because he wasn't an idiot, and he didn't lie about the exact same issue more than a hundred times in front of a public camera.
Thats the issue, and thanks for wasting half an hour of my time with some poor reference. How about we practice a bit of evidence based politics here. I saw the movie F-911 with my own eyes, and the more you try and discredit it, the more I am simply going to tell you that it had one central message...that is indisputable....the connection between the war in Iraq and Al Qaeda. A BIG LIE......I don't care about the other scenes, because he certainly did not put words in Bush's mouth and he didn't hire an actor to play Bush. Bush, unfortunately, played himself!!!
