Badasses of the hospital

[Sirach38]

What does my current profession have to do with my feelings about attitudes in my current one? And would you have said "nurse right" in that manner if I had not said my gender is female?

You aren't seeing it and sadly that's on you. What's worse is you are a physician here influencing others in or headed to the profession, and with your tone and attitude, yes, that makes me sad. Wow

Look, the way you are reacting to all of this clearly demonstrates that you have an inferiority complex the size of Jupitor both about being female and about being a nurse. You're emotional explosions produced by simple neutral comments about the nature of the OB/Gyn profession are ridiculous. Get this inferiority complex in check before applying to med school or you will have a very rough ride in your clinical years. Best of luck.

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[jl lin]

Go back and read. And the general tone from similar anti-OB comments in threads has at times been allowed to go on,,,especially in the whole disrespectful tone toward OBGYN and dealing with vags--as if all are nasty and that such a great job is beneath people. It's insulting and ridiculous. It shows a Lack of insight and maturity.

Sad thing is those that don't respect and honor women as whole people. And guess what? Like racial issues, dishonor toward women still exists.

And if you don't think OBGYN is badass, fine. It's good that you have not chosen it. But show respect towards those that serve in the field and to those whom they serve.

 

[anaesthetic]

Second, I was referring to the tone of the original person to whom I replied, and I stand by it...

FYI, you are probably the only person on this entire site who took offense to that statement.

 

[jl lin]

This really shows with a strike of a pen, anyone can practice medicine... Below is a NP curriculum. Seriously!

Courses

NUR 802: Theoretical Foundations and Role Development for the Advanced Practice Nurse
NUR 804: Statistics for the Healthcare Professional
NUR 805: Pathophysiology for Advanced Practice Nurses
NUR 806: Research for Practice Nurses
NUR 807: Clinical Decision Making
NUR 809: Applied Pharmacology for Advanced Practice
NUR 814: Health Care Policy and Politics
NUR 820/835: Health Assessment
NUR 821/836: Primary Care Management I
NUR 822/832: Practicum I Primary Care
NUR 823/837: Primary Care Management II
NUR 824/834: Practicum II
NUR 838: Care for Aging Individuals

You have Never heard me say an NP education surpasses quality medical training...not once, ever.
How is the course listing relevant?

 

[Psai]

Stop ruining threads guys

 

[Sirach38]

You have Never heard me say an NP education surpasses quality medical training...not once, ever.
How is the course listing relevant?

Notice how the post was a response to someone else's post about midlevels being badasses, NOT YOU. Again, please deal with and take your feelings of inferiority elsewhere.

 

[jl lin]

FYI, you are probably the only person on this entire site who took offense to that statement.

I have seen enough similar comments--tone and attitude. It's there in those comments and yours. And maybe it's OK for men to refer to each other as their own body parts, (not really), but women who are the pts OBGYNs see, well they have enough insightful to not do that, if the have any class. They, see persons as persons, anatomy aside.

It's like people don't see how they diminish and disrespect each other anymore. Don't argue and defend it. Just give it some genuine thought. Everywhere you go it's like people think disrespect is in vogue. It's not and physicians of all people should keep this in mind. Don't feel hurt. Just think about it, meekly. That's all I am saying

 

[Sirach38]

Hands down the most badass doctors at my hospital are the CT and vascular surgeons. No one else, day in and day out, gets to throw instruments, yell at other people, throw a temper tantrum reminiscent of a 5 year old boy, all while doing surgery on the heart or aorta and never suffer any consequences for their attitude. I guess that's the sign of a true badass, you can be a total d*#k to everyone but you're so irreplaceable and important that nobody can do a thing about it.

However, they pay with their sweat and tears for this badassness...they can have it as far as I'm concerned, I want no part in it.

 

[jl lin]

Notice how the post was a response to someone else's post about midlevels being badasses, NOT YOU. Again, please deal with and take your feelings of inferiority elsewhere.

Perhaps but it came on the heels of your nurse comment.

There's a world of difference between meekness in caring and anti conceit versus inferiority. I am neither inferior nor superior to anyone. And that's just another sad, irrelevant dig from you. Wow again. Your still refusing to try to see it, so you attempt more offense. Happy NewYear.

 

[PL198]

First thr relevance of the first part of what you said isn't related to my points, but it does suggest some animosity against women. Second, I was referring to the tone of the original person to whom I replied, and I stand by it, with the openly acknowledged comment re time of the month from another poster.

Sorry but there's some lack of respect and sensitivity re women here. It's there, playing boys club and laughing about it underscores a nerve I touched. Do I cringe when I read disrespectful things re women, etc...or even a y group of people. Yes. It about respectfulness.

Done.

it's a boys club because we say ob/gyn is related because of the vagina? man those pulmonologists, they're so oppressive to the other parts of the body because they only focus on the lungs. those bastards. if you can't see how *****ic that is, then you're hopeless.

 

[jl lin]

it's a boys club because we say ob/gyn is related because of the vagina? man those pulmonologists, they're so oppressive to the other parts of the body because they only focus on the lungs. those bastards. if you can't see how *****ic that is, then you're hopeless.

Your refusal to care enough to see, along with your time of the month comment, only demonstrates your insensitivity. We live in a world that chronically and toxically objectifies and dehumanizes women. If we didn't the massive porn and free and slavery sex trades would not be the huge enterprises they are.

Listen, what was even the original point about singling out vaginas as part of uteruses?

And you and the commenter to which I refer do know that there are procedures that may take out the uterus and leave a vagina?

You see I am just tired of this demeaning tone thst comes up whenever OBGYN is discussed. There's is a tone of disrespectfulness-is that tone not often negatively referencing women or the body parts, etc? Sorry yea, it's usually there.

Sorry if that may be somethinG which should be thought about and considered? But of course I'm The overly sensitive, female, nurse *****. OK

 

[PL198]

time of the month comment? are you just straight up making things up now?

are you having a psychotic episode because I have literally no idea what you're talking about. separating a vagina? I never said a word about that or a uterus? yeah we dehumanize women, I forgot the women in porn are forced to do it and they're sex slaves

 

[fancymylotus]

time of the month comment? are you just straight up making things up now?

are you having a psychotic episode because I have literally no idea what you're talking about. separating a vagina? I never said a word about that or a uterus? yeah we dehumanize women, I forgot the women in porn are forced to do it and they're sex slaves

I like you.

 

[Sirach38]

Your refusal to care enough to see, along with your time of the month comment, only demonstrates your insensitivity. We live in a world that chronically and toxically objectifies and dehumanizes women. If we didn't the massive porn and free and slavery sex trades would not be the huge enterprises they are.

Listen, what was even the original point about singling out vaginas as part of uteruses?

And you and the commenter to which I refer do know that there are procedures that may take out the uterus and leave a vagina?

You see I am just tired of this demeaning tone thst comes up whenever OBGYN is discussed. There's is a tone of disrespectfulness-is that tone not often negatively referencing women or the body parts, etc? Sorry yea, it's usually there. Sorry if that may be somethinG which should be thought about and considered?

PL198 made no such comment about the time of the month. That was in fact another poster. Please try to pay attention for the sake of these arguments. I sure hope for the sake of your patient's safety that you pay more attention to their medication dosing than you do to what is being said on this thread because clearly you haven't been able to tell up from down on here.

But of course I'm The overly sensitive, female, nurse *****.

That is correct, I'm glad you recognize it.

Now, can we get back to the badasses of the hospital (CT and vascular surgeons)?

 

[Mad Jack]

A doc with a black coat would scare me out of my gown real fast.

I'm actually all about bringing the black coat back.

 

[W19]

You have Never heard me say an NP education surpasses quality medical training...not once, ever.
How is the course listing relevant?

I was answering to the post I quoted... I was not trying to say you said such things.

 

[Jabbed]

Didn't like your general tone. Women's vaginas as point of focus have long been used to disrespect or diminish women. Objectification of women is just part of the subtle or not so subtle demeaning layering. It's been inculcated in this and other cultures. Instead of focusing on the good part of why women bleed--in preparation for the possibility of new life, rather it is too often the focus of disrespectful talk or jokes. Bleeding in a healthy, clean, vaginal/uterine environment is a good thing for women and potential, new life. The general tone is the thing

We live in a world that chronically and toxically objectifies and dehumanizes women. If we didn't the massive porn and free and slavery sex trades would not be the huge enterprises they are.

Didn't like your general tone. Pornography as point of focus have long been used by puritanical activists to deplore society's morals . Objectification of pornography is just part of the subtle or not so subtle demeaning layering. It's been inculcated in this and other cultures. Instead of focusing on the good part of pornography --in preparation for the possibility of entertainment and fantasy realization , rather it is too often the focus of disrespectful talk or jokes. Pornography is a good thing for everyone and potential, new life. The general tone is the thing

 

[jl lin]

time of the month comment? are you just straight up making things up now?

are you having a psychotic episode because I have literally no idea what you're talking about. separating a vagina? I never said a word about that or a uterus? yeah we dehumanize women, I forgot the women in porn are forced to do it and they're sex slaves

It was not your comment that had the time of the month deal. You did not write, so forgive me for relating it as such. There are people that strike and insult just under the radar. They know full well what they are doing--and there are those that just friend or unfriend and could care less about principle. And that is sad; but I guess it's just life.

But anyway, this is one of the comments to which I was referring. Note the artful and 'slick' way the person spaced out the time of the month comment then spaced down to the part of SDN being a venue for overly principled, blah, blah, blah. That was under the radar INTENTIONAL. He knows it and so do other insightful people. These are the kinds of people that are leading in our culture. But they stealthily and politically know how to walk that careful line so that they can get away with perpetuating their disrespectful crap.

Must be that time of the month...
..when SDN becomes a venue for overly principled tirades.

I don't want to proceed, b/c it's a waste of time when people don't even want to try to respectfully understand others or their POVs.

And this has nothing to do with liking or not-liking anyone. It's simply about respectfulness and understanding.

OK. Seriously continue the drama or deflection. I meant to point out something about respectfulness. Do what you like with it. I am going to a memorial service for a beautiful little child. Even at his young age, he could understand and appreciate the kinds of things to which I am referring. His heart and mind were very together. Those of his ilk are what is sorely needed in leadership and in medicine, which is also a leadership role.

 

[jl lin]

I was answering to the post I quoted... I was not trying to say you said such things.

Yes, I see that W. It just seemed to come after other harsh responses and on the heels of the "you're a nurse thing."

 

[jl lin]

Didn't like your general tone. Pornography as point of focus have long been used by puritanical activists to deplore society's morals . Objectification of pornography is just part of the subtle or not so subtle demeaning layering. It's been inculcated in this and other cultures. Instead of focusing on the good part of pornography --in preparation for the possibility of entertainment and fantasy realization , rather it is too often the focus of disrespectful talk or jokes. Pornography is a good thing for everyone and potential, new life. The general tone is the thing

Pornography is a good thing? Ey, no, not really. Besides a ton of other reasons it is not, it dehumanizes women and men and children.

Objectifying anyone for means of sexual gratification dissects the soul/spirit/whole of the person and leaves a merely decorated receptacle for gratification. Wow.

It is beyond disrespectful to human beings. I won't help you see this probably. Something else hopefully will.

 

[Nasrudin]

Hating OB and demeaning women is no more synonymous that hating ortho is to hating penises or males...or whatever leap of anatomical metaphor we're talking about.

OB is an objectively crappy field. Some of that daily stuff is just plain gross to deal with. Glad there's people who love it. The fact that it has limited appeal can at least for the time being justify salaries for those brave souls, that at least to some degree, offset those massive malpractice payments.

Maybe most people think that about my field. And for most people they're probably right.

Badasses?....hmmmm, kind of a stretch but OK, I can see the case.

Being a swell person and being good at what you do is another sort of question than what this thread is about. There is a natural ecology of who's the badass on the block in the physician game. We all know it.

How do you feel as intern when you're consulting them. To what degree of underling separation do you get to even talk to them. That's not a bad metric. Maybe how loudly your mother brags about it, if she's the obnoxious type. Proxies of these sorts. And you have your answer of where your specialty ranks.

Note... these are not the same metrics as who's the chilliest, the funniest, the smartest, etc. heroic fields tend to attract the self-romantic types. Who as people might be among the most intolerable of all.

But having no hater bone in my body, I give them their due on the badass scale.

 

[jl lin]

Hating OB and demeaning women is no more synonymous that hating ortho is to hating penises or males...or whatever leap of anatomical metaphor we're talking about.

OB is an objectively crappy field. Some of that daily stuff is just plain gross to deal with. Glad there's people who love it. The fact that it has limited appeal can at least for the time being justify salaries for those brave souls, that at least to some degree, offset those massive malpractice payments.

Maybe most people think that about my field. And for most people they're probably right.

Badasses?....hmmmm, kind of a stretch but OK, I can see the case.

Being a swell person and being good at what you do is another sort of question than what this thread is about. There is a natural ecology of who's the badass on the block in the physician game. We all know it.

How do you feel as intern when you're consulting them. To what degree of underling separation do you get to even talk to them. That's not a bad metric. Maybe how loudly your mother brags about it, if she's the obnoxious type. Proxies of these sorts. And you have your answer of where your specialty ranks.

Note... these are not the same metrics as who's the chilliest, the funniest, the smartest, etc. heroic fields tend to attract the self-romantic types. Who as people might be among the most intolerable of all.

But having no hater bone in my body, I give them their due on the badass scale.

Your opinion, which is fine. But just plain gross as compared with what? Vomit, urine, feces, uber globs of disgusting tracheal secretions through ETT or Trach tubes, blood covering the healthcare worker from critically ill patients--I have had all of this and more, and no. I can't say that working in labor and delivery was just plain gross in the same way as those other scenarios. Probably b/c those in L&D were on the ball and anticipated well--prepared well.

Secondly, if you are focused on the patients and what you are doing, you don't have time to get creeped out too much, b/c you are working on being safe, saving other people--putting their needs and interests first.

People react badly to something as natural as childbirth because it has been shrouded from those in first world nations for decades and more. It has been overly dramatized in the negative. It's the same idiotic mentality that equates breastfeeding in public with taking a pee or poop in public. I mean these people that think this are really poorly influenced and just plain ignorant.

If an individual is saying,, "Hey, OBGYN is not for them," fine. It's the tone and attitude of making processes of women and reproduction somehow gross or diminished. That's screwy--and it's a culturally-based, and mostly male-dominated and male-influence screwy thing.

Get over it already I say. BUT I totally can see your other points Nas about the hours and malpractice etc as being reasons for avoiding the specialty,

But "grossness," well, unless you are doing rads or something like that, dude there is plenty of grossness throughout all of medicine and healthcare. Some people can get passed seeing blood, vomit, people carving into their own flesh,and so forth, and some folks can't or won't. I think it is about on what you are focused--the patient or other stuff--other stuff, that, if properly protected with PPE, and so forth, isn't a huge deal. Damn I've had blood soaked literally down underneath my bra and underwear in terrible codes. I have lived to tell about it. But seriously those episodes were more disconcerting and worrisome to me than any time I spent with women in labor and delivery--even if the women were bleeders--and that's usually b/c the smart doc-OBGYNs know there stuff and prepare well ahead of time.

 

[jl lin]

The badasses are those that seriously care about their patients and what they are doing first and foremost. The specialty after that point is irrelevant.

 

[Nasrudin]

By grossness I mean the natural consequences of any neglected and unkempt moist wet crevice. And the massive fluid interface of delivery. Any field that requires plastic leggings and a faceshield is gross. In same way that being the guy who sucks out waste from portapotties while wearing coveralls and rubber boots has a gross job. The more random fluid exchange, the more protective gear, the grosser. And I say this as a vagina enthusiast in the general sense. Keep in mind we see the pathological of each of our respective tradecrafts.

 

[Nasrudin]

The badasses are those that seriously care about their patients and what they are doing first and foremost. The specialty after that point is irrelevant.

That negates the purpose of using language like badass in the first place. It can't mean that everyone is nice. Everyone wins. It clearly means some people are awesome in a certain way and others aren't. Which is obviously the case.

 

[jl lin]

That negates the purpose of using language like badass in the first place. It can't mean that everyone is nice. Everyone wins. It clearly means some people are awesome in a certain way and others aren't. Which obviously the case.

Not at all; b/c, especially when reading through the forums here, uh no. Clearly not everyone is about putting the patient first and foremost. I've worked long enough in HC to know this for a fact. But even if it were about most being badass in that regard specifically, that' would be glorious in reality--to have people truly being badasses where it matters most. And that goes well beyond mere niceness. And there is also a huge difference between niceness and genuine kindness--big difference. One is often lip-service, the other is deep and genuine. But it's also about caring enough to be top of your game.

Actually having physicians and nurses that truly give a damn beyond pay or fear of malpractice or fear of pee, poop, blood, whatever--and people that don't lose this b/c of becoming burned out--that would be the epitome of badassness in medicine and healthcare. Not becoming burned out alone would be totally badass for these professions!.

Superficial crap will always be crap, whether you call it feces, crap, or doo doo.
It's all about what matters most--and that makes or breaks--in terms of defining what is truly badass.

 

[Nasrudin]

Scoping people's butts is gross too. As is cutting people's eyeballs.

I think I can speak for the zeitgeist on these relative assessments in non-moralist terms.

I give myself that go ahead in the spirit of the thread topic. And will have to agree to disagree with you. Per yoozsh.

 

[IlDestriero]

You have Never heard me say an NP education surpasses quality medical training...not once, ever.
How is the course listing relevant?

Well, it proves they're not bad asses.
(That was what the thread was about btw)
PS I think you're reading too much into the above before you were successfully baited into an argument.

 

[Sirach38]

How I feel about "badasses" in medicine...

 

[Doctor Bob]

You know, hairstylists wear the black coats...that's their thing.

Yea, but hairstylists don't leave a trail of bloody shoeprints down the hallway behind them.
Occasionally my shoeprints burst into flames leaving scorched marks on the linoleum.

I'm actually all about bringing the black coat back.

It's part of my plan to bring sexy back.

 

[PL198]

Your opinion, which is fine. But just plain gross as compared with what? Vomit, urine, feces, uber globs of disgusting tracheal secretions through ETT or Trach tubes, blood covering the healthcare worker from critically ill patients--I have had all of this and more, and no. I can't say that working in labor and delivery was just plain gross in the same way as those other scenarios. Probably b/c those in L&D were on the ball and anticipated well--prepared well.

Secondly, if you are focused on the patients and what you are doing, you don't have time to get creeped out too much, b/c you are working on being safe, saving other people--putting their needs and interests first.

People react badly to something as natural as childbirth because it has been shrouded from those in first world nations for decades and more. It has been overly dramatized in the negative. It's the same idiotic mentality that equates breastfeeding in public with taking a pee or poop in public. I mean these people that think this are really poorly influenced and just plain ignorant.

If an individual is saying,, "Hey, OBGYN is not for them," fine. It's the tone and attitude of making processes of women and reproduction somehow gross or diminished. That's screwy--and it's a culturally-based, and mostly male-dominated and male-influence screwy thing.

Get over it already I say. BUT I totally can see your other points Nas about the hours and malpractice etc as being reasons for avoiding the specialty,

But "grossness," well, unless you are doing rads or something like that, dude there is plenty of grossness throughout all of medicine and healthcare. Some people can get passed seeing blood, vomit, people carving into their own flesh,and so forth, and some folks can't or won't. I think it is about on what you are focused--the patient or other stuff--other stuff, that, if properly protected with PPE, and so forth, isn't a huge deal. Damn I've had blood soaked literally down underneath my bra and underwear in terrible codes. I have lived to tell about it. But seriously those episodes were more disconcerting and worrisome to me than any time I spent with women in labor and delivery--even if the women were bleeders--and that's usually b/c the smart doc-OBGYNs know there stuff and prepare well ahead of time.

literally everything you say is insane.

 

[jl lin]

literally everything you say is insane.

Literally, you are a very disrespectful person, who, as I can see, does NOT have the authority, education, or experience to diagnose me as "literally insane."

Thing is, you don't even seem to care about understanding others or your sad attitude, and it reflects poorly on you. Please just don't respond to me anymore.

I am disheartened with attitudes like yours, but it's the world we live in, and it takes all kinds. Save your insults for the patients, residents, and attendees you are or will be disrespecting with your buddies BEHIND their backs.

 

[jl lin]

Well, it proves they're not bad asses.
(That was what the thread was about btw)
PS I think you're reading too much into the above before you were successfully baited into an argument.

Thank you for your respectfully stated opinion. I disagree, especially since I have seen a number of negative insults re: OBGYN and female body parts here on SDN over the years--and the fact that our well-liked member, Nas, defines a particular kind of "grossness" to labor, delivery, and amniotic fluid as compared with liters of blood all over doctors and nurses, or mucus, feces, urine, or any other gross body fluids or even body parts--such as pieces of gray matter hang out and touching healthcare workers, indicates that I'm really not all that far off.

Also, when you see people freaking out about a woman carefully breastfeeding in public, but people are walking around on warm days with butt-floss bathing suits, and that is somehow OK compared to the former, well that tells me something is really wrong in the society as well.

Nah. I regret to say that this is a sad attitude that rides just under the radar. It's even sadder when women sell out and leap into this mentality. It's something to think about, and if one person gives it fair consideration, I guess it's worth all the crap I've been taking here.

 

[Nasrudin]

Thank you for your respectfully stated opinion. I disagree, especially since I have seen a number of negative insults re: OBGYN and female body parts here on SDN over the years--and the fact that our well-liked member, Nas, defines a particular kind of "grossness" to labor, delivery, and amniotic fluid as compared with liters of blood all over doctors and nurses, or mucus, feces, urine, or any other gross body fluids or even body parts--such as pieces of gray matter hang out and touching healthcare workers, indicates that I'm really not all that far off.

Also, when you see people freaking out about a woman carefully breastfeeding in public, but people are walking around on warm days with butt-floss bathing suits, and that is somehow OK compared to the former, well that tells me something is really wrong in the society as well.

Nah. I regret to say that this is a sad attitude that rides just under the radar. It's even sadder when women sell out and leap into this mentality. It's something to think about, and if one person gives it fair consideration, I guess it's worth all the crap I've been taking here.

No, let's be clear that stuff is straight traumatizing. To ghastly to be gross. A slower less shocking form of repulsion is the realm of the gross. Of course these are adjectives, in one mind. I'm only making the case that a lot of people, including probably most women think a large portion of what falls under the purvey of OBgyn is gross. The birth is amazing. It's just surrounded by a lot of gross.

Bloody diarrhea is gross. Blood coming at me unexpectedly is gross.

But out of all my clerkships, OB-gyn was up there in moments of sheer grossness. All of it, is, like I said. The extreme hydrolic fluid pressures of the pregnant uterus. And the natural culturing environment of the vagina with disrupted lactobacillus populations. It's pretty straight forward. Asexual/political.

 

[Instatewaiter]

No, let's be clear that stuff is straight traumatizing. To ghastly to be gross. A slower less shocking form of repulsion is the realm of the gross. Of course these are adjectives, in one mind. I'm only making the case that a lot of people, including probably most women think a large portion of what falls under the purvey of OBgyn is gross. The birth is amazing. It's just surrounded by a lot of gross.

Bloody diarrhea is gross. Blood coming at me unexpectedly is gross.

But out of all my clerkships, OB-gyn was up there in moments of sheer grossness. All of it, is, like I said. The extreme hydrolic fluid pressures of the pregnant uterus. And the natural culturing environment of the vagina with disrupted lactobacillus populations. It's pretty straight forward. Asexual/political.

Agree.

Just as fishy Vag is gross, so too are old man balls. Or blood dripping on my shoe, or the smell of C diff, or vomit touching my clothes. These have nothing to do with hating women or old men. They have to do with just being nasty.

 

[Nasrudin]

Yeah. What is it with toxic smell of old man piss. Wth is that!? Sour balls are up there. If easier to clean. Or have cleaned. I don't do that stuff. Thank god. I don't think I would have the notion to even tell anyone to clean them. They can just stay sour.

Smells are the lions share of gross to me.

 

[RJGOP]

Didn't like your general tone. Women's vaginas as point of focus have long been used to disrespect or diminish women. Objectification of women is just part of the subtle or not so subtle demeaning layering. It's been inculcated in this and other cultures. Instead of focusing on the good part of why women bleed--in preparation for the possibility of new life, rather it is too often the focus of disrespectful talk or jokes. Bleeding in a healthy, clean, vaginal/uterine environment is a good thing for women and potential, new life. The general tone is the thing

I'd venture to say if someone dropped a penis joke you'd have no objection. He was in no way demeaning or belittling women, or their 'parts.' (I guess I can't say Vagina, at least not without parenthises ) He made somewhat of a witty comment as to the coupling of OB and GYN, one which is literally true. It was neither offensive nor snarky, and I don't understand your considerable distaste towards the matter.

Feminism is fine (it's usually the feminists who piss me off) , but you literally started a pissing match (in which I'll admit I'm glad to participate) because you decided to be offended by a harmless comment.

 

[Instatewaiter]

Yeah. What is it with toxic smell of old man piss. Wth is that!? Sour balls are up there. If easier to clean. Or have cleaned. I don't do that stuff. Thank god. I don't think I would have the notion to even tell anyone to clean them. They can just stay sour.

Smells are the lions share of gross to me.

What about fat person who hasn't bathed in a few days. You know that stink that hits you at the door... that is near the top.

 

[SouthernSurgeon]

What about fat person who hasn't bathed in a few days. You know that stink that hits you at the door... that is near the top.

Esp if you have to get in their pannus folds...

 

[PL198]

I find it hilarious that a feminist would say porn is bad. so the people that pushed porn so hard and say it empowers a woman to do what she wants with her body " how dare someone else tell you what is acceptable and unacceptable to do with your body" and then they do so. LOL

 

[VisionaryTics]

Agree.

Just as fishy Vag is gross, so too are old man balls. Or blood dripping on my shoe, or the smell of C diff, or vomit touching my clothes. These have nothing to do with hating women or old men. They have to do with just being nasty.

you are a misogynist and bad doctor!

Seriously though, to add to the list of gross:

Trach patients coming from ****ty nursing homes who haven't had their stoma cleaned in 2 years
Trach patients who never followed up with the general surgeon and have an 8 perc trach cannula in a year and a half out
Fungal otitis
Pussed out EAC foreign bodies
Nec fasc of all types and colors
Boogers

No one in this entire thread called otolaryngologists badass...

 

[Instatewaiter]

you are a misogynist and bad doctor!

Seriously though, to add to the list of gross:

Trach patients coming from ****ty nursing homes who haven't had their stoma cleaned in 2 years
Trach patients who never followed up with the general surgeon and have an 8 perc trach cannula in a year and a half out
Fungal otitis
Pussed out EAC foreign bodies
Nec fasc of all types and colors
Boogers

No one in this entire thread called otolaryngologists badass...

To be fair, most people think of someone who stabilizes hyper-acute situations as badass... ENT usually doesn't fall into this realm.

In my experience it rarely goes something like this at a code, "Crap he's VF-ing again. Give me 100 mg of lidocaine bolus, and charge to 200 joules. Start compressions. And before you activate the cath lab, someone please call the ear nose and throat doctor stat..."

 

[Nasrudin]

To be fair, most people think of someone who stabilizes hyper-acute situations as badass... ENT usually doesn't fall into this realm.

In my experience it rarely goes something like this at a code, "Crap he's VF-ing again. Give me 100 mg of lidocaine bolus, and charge to 200 joules. Start compressions. And before you activate the cath lab, someone please call the ear nose and throat doctor stat..."

Yeah that's the gestalt idea of badass that all of us have. Who can handle the high stakes hairy stuff with their rare skill set.

Maybe the nursing idea of badass is different. Our hierarchy of badass doesn't account for hand-holdery. That can add a squarish clark kentish take on the badass hero thing. But it does not a badass make or break.

Grossness--failing lymphatics and a basketball size lower leg lathered in cellulitis and garnish of gout.

 

[jl lin]

I'd venture to say if someone dropped a penis joke you'd have no objection. He was in no way demeaning or belittling women, or their 'parts.' (I guess I can't say Vagina, at least not without parenthises ) He made somewhat of a witty comment as to the coupling of OB and GYN, one which is literally true. It was neither offensive nor snarky, and I don't understand your considerable distaste towards the matter.

Feminism is fine (it's usually the feminists who piss me off) , but you literally started a pissing match (in which I'll admit I'm glad to participate) because you decided to be offended by a harmless comment.

Sorry you or anyone else feels this way. You obviously have not read the general attitudes toward OBGYN and women and their PARTs that I have here over time. LOL. I would never be viewed as a feminist in terms of being a card-carrying member. They'd probably throw me out b/c I am not extreme. Oh well. I tend to favor men but have special respect for my gender, b/c when you see disparity in attitudes and such, firsthand, well, it's kind of hard to dismiss--unless you only care about yourself and how your own attractiveness or charm can get you where you want to go. I don't really roll that way on the empathy side of things, so yes. I feel for disparity in attitudes and treatment of women--even in its subtle forms. As for your typical feminist, well, I just tend to have fairly conservative views on many things. So probably a number of them would have issues with me. My husband and family would laugh at the view here of me as some staunch feminist. LOL.

If some here would spend as much time looking at how women are even subtly demeaned--whether that was a person's intent or effect or not--but note that it was demonstrated in comments that followed in this thread--instead of saying, in effect, "Oh, that's not a real thing," that would be truly badass.

Penis jokes? Actually I already stated in another post that I don't think anyone should be objectified. I don't see people as parts or things or ends to some means. People are always first and foremost, people. Truth is, historically until today, mostly the penis is seen as this glorious, powerful thing, lol. I mean personally, I'm all for them. Smart inventions: but I don't define a specialty and its value or those receiving the care from said specialty by a part of anatomy. Thousands of years of influence have taught people in general to give worship to the penis. (I've been to ancient ruins where penises are literally engraved in stone throughout the area.) The symbolism and how it was used is quite clear.

But this has proven interesting to me and suggests that some negative attitudes (though not openly admitted for PC reasons) still exist. Athis point in time, I'm really over it and currently IDC.

It's time for things to move forward.

Back to topic: Having worked with pediatric and adult CT surgeons, yes. I do think they are badass. I think neurosurgery is badass. Seriously, I honestly think that a lot of areas of medicine are totally badass. But I am someone that can find interest in many areas. Since I tend toward this love of variation and such, I think ED would be a good fit for me. I most definitely think ED physicians are and must regularly be badass. They can get beaten up terribly over time--and they don't always have the bubble of protection other areas of medicine have. For example, there is often no buffer between them and the abusive patients and others, and their patients are in either bad shape or some bizarre situation, or just plain seeking drugs or misusing or abusing the system for care or simply have no other means for tx. So ED docs can get totally burned out--often way too early in their careers--plus they stay in shift rotation, at least until they get more of an admin role. I have probably learned the most from ED docs and various intensivists, critical care attendings, cardiologists, and surgeons. Badass is relative, but for those considered more "badass," I think there can be higher burnout rates.

 

[giantswing]

After

What about fat person who hasn't bathed in a few days. You know that stink that hits you at the door... that is near the top.

Whats the worst is when the smell reminds you of cheese and you're hungry.

The worst i've smelled was a guy who was bedridden with steatorrhea. It accumulaed ina cup.

Also maggots in a cast is really bad. Clean wound tho.

 

[studentp0x]

Pornography is a good thing? Ey, no, not really. Besides a ton of other reasons it is not, it dehumanizes women and men and children.

Objectifying anyone for means of sexual gratification dissects the soul/spirit/whole of the person and leaves a merely decorated receptacle for gratification. Wow.

It is beyond disrespectful to human beings. I won't help you see this probably. Something else hopefully will.

What?

How mad does it make you to know that your opinion matters to literally no one and everyday everything moves in the complete opposite direction?

 

[jl lin]

What?

How mad does it make you to know that your opinion matters to literally no one and everyday everything moves in the complete opposite direction?

Not everything, but some things are so clear and real and have such a strong effect on people and society that they are immovable, even whilst some people attempt to slide wheels underneath them, ignoring the reality of the inevitable careening smack into disaster.

To your question, it saddens me much more than angers me--except when I see the selling of women and children and men as things to be used and soiled and abused for others' ill-founded gratification. Porn for many usually starts out looking more on the benign side. And one wonders if one needs it, what is missing in terms of a deeper, truly intimate connection. No, it makes me sad.

Also, I have always thought it strange to be a voyeur into someone else's sexual behaviors. I don't want to watch others and be gratified through their cheap antics. I'd rather have the real thing with someone I love and who loves me.

 

[studentp0x]

Not everything, but some things are so clear and real and have such a strong effect on people and society that they are immovable, even whilst some people attempt to slide wheels underneath them, ignoring the reality of the inevitable careening smack into disaster.

To your question, it saddens me much more than angers me--except when I see the selling of women and children and men as things to be used and soiled and abused for others' ill-founded gratification. Porn for many usually starts out looking more on the benign side. And one wonders if one needs it, what is missing in terms of a deeper, truly intimate connection. No, it makes me sad.

Also, I have always thought it strange to be a voyeur into someone else's sexual behaviors. I don't want to watch others and be gratified through their cheap antics. I'd rather have the real thing with someone I love and who loves me.

Yea.. uhh... legit mutual love is rare.

Also, you realize most men are unable to obtain the real thing right??

 

[WhippleWhileWeWork]

Least favorite poster: Jl Lin

Wait, wrong thread.

 

[fancymylotus]

Yea.. uhh... legit mutual love is rare.

Also, you realize most men are unable to obtain the real thing right??

Lol what