Away rotations 2020

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I hope the MS3s out there are thinking about away rotations. I didn’t see a recent thread here so I thought I’d start one.

Away rotations do many good things for you, and have long been the standard in this field. I will confess I’m not in student/resident leadership so don’t know if they’re still considered mandatory, but beyond that they’re a great way to get letters of recommendation from big names in the field, and they also let you try out an individual program, and figure out what’s important to you in any program, before interviews start. The RadOnc community is a small one, and good work at another institution will pay off in terms of your reputation for years to come.

Most aways are arranged through VSAS here: You are being redirected...

One quick plug for my own institution, the University of Florida, because we love students here and have a long history of helping them get into their top-choice residencies. I came here as a student myself and compared to my other rad onc rotations it was wonderful. I truly got to take care of people, scope the head and neck patients, learn a good cancer gyn exam, contour a pancreas case, and so on. And the faculty and residents were happy to have students around, they did not make us feel like a burden. Also if you come during August you’ll get to come on the department scallop where we all load up on boats and drive around the Gulf of Mexico with the music and beverages flowing to gather scallops for a laid-back pool party later that night. I can think of worse ways to spend your late summer.

Further away advice:
  • I agree with the statement elsewhere in this forum that it’s totally reasonable to cancel an away rotation if needed. You should be polite and do it as soon as you know so a waitlisted person can have your spot. Nobody will hold it against you later, or at least we never have done so here at UF, it's an expected part of the system.
  • Use RotatingRoom to find an inexpensive, safe place to stay. They accept medical personnel only, and arrangements are better vetted than general commercial sites. They’ll also be near the hospital if you don’t have a car.
  • Lots of us have books we can lend to students or can offer a ride to another facility to help bring down costs – don’t be shy about asking for resources wherever you go, we know this is an expensive year for students, and every one of us has been in your shoes.
I hope this helps! More senior folks, where did you go that was good for rotating students? Is your own shop student friendly?

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I had a fantastic experience at Cleveland Clinic as a rotating Med student a few years ago
 
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Rotate at department you are interested in matching if you must match in this field. Don’t show up drunk, steal, conspicuously use drugs, pull down your pants and watch porn on department computers, and you will almost certainly match!
 
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I had a fantastic experience at Cleveland Clinic as a rotating Med student a few years ago

Seconded. CCF has a very robust, well structured medical student curriculum that is built to maximize face time with those that matter (Tendulkar, Suh).

Otherwise - agree to do aways at places you would like to end up at, assuming you don't suck as a medical student (which is quite variable depending on who you ask).
 
I have 0 connection to ccf, but some of their faculty really struck me as good people, especially their lung attending.
 
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This thread is now serious business. No memes, trolling, or unprofessionalism. Leave the doom and gloom for other threads. SDN's mission to be helpful to students, and that's what we're going to do here.

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I know of at least one large centre that’s cancelling all of their elective students across all depts in the wake of COVID-19, at least until end of June. We’ll see if other universities follow suit.
 
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I've moved 7 posts that were discussing COVID-19 to the dedicated COVID-19 thread. Let's keep this thread on topic for discussion of away rotations.
 
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Very early on, like mid to late 90s, the programs tried to impress you and made you feel good for coming through. When it got super competitive, the programs acted as if it were a privilege that you got to be there. Maybe it will flip back now and the rotations won’t be the dick measuring contests they have become.
 
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