Adolescent gyn

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Hey all. I am a premed applying to mostly DO schools this cycle. I was wondering if anyone could speak a bit on child/adolescent gyn. I see that there are fellowships offered in this area but its not official in the same way onc gyn is. What are the job prospects like? Is this a reasonable career plan for a DO? Im interested in both teen sexual health and helping victims of sexual abuse so I'm thinking this area of medicine makes sense. I'd love any advice. Thanks!

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Hey all. I am a premed applying to mostly DO schools this cycle. I was wondering if anyone could speak a bit on child/adolescent gyn. I see that there are fellowships offered in this area but its not official in the same way onc gyn is. What are the job prospects like? Is this a reasonable career plan for a DO? Im interested in both teen sexual health and helping victims of sexual abuse so I'm thinking this area of medicine makes sense. I'd love any advice. Thanks!

From what I've seen it is rare to find someone who does exclusive adolescent Gyn. Thankfully there is just not that much need for it. Probably the best way to do adolescent or child Gyn would be to do an REI fellowship and that may be more challenging from a DO school. Typically general gyns will informally expresses an interest in a particular aspect of Gyn and other physicians will funnel patients to them.

In terms of teen and sexual you could do that easily with either family medicine or OB/Gyn without a fellowship. Most physicians don't do much in terms of caring for victims of sexual assault because you don't really need medical school and residency to do it. Most of that is done by SANE nurses.

The big thing for you to decide is if you want to be a physician or not and then to keep an open mind once you get in. You may find your intellectual fascination of renal physiology outweighs you passion of caring for women. You never know!
 
Thanks for the response THP :thumbup: I really appreciate it.
Excuse my n00bishness but what is REI?

Yeah I know im quite a few years and a lot of experiences away from making this decision. my main focus is def on rocking my interviews and actually getting in :xf: :luck:
 
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Thanks for the response THP :thumbup: I really appreciate it.
Excuse my n00bishness but what is REI?

Yeah I know im quite a few years and a lot of experiences away from making this decision. my main focus is def on rocking my interviews and actually getting in :xf: :luck:

Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility. Primarily they help infertile women get pregnant. Do no sexual assault care. But they do see precocious puberty, primary amenorrhea, endometriosis, and complex muellerian anomalies. Granted this is a small part of their practice.
 
There are several programs in the country including Washington DC, California, and Texas.

As THP stated, this is not necessary for sexual abuse care. Folks in this field (that I know personally) often have affiliations with a Children's hospital and assist Pediatric Surgery subspecialists with various procedures alongside running outpatient clinics to assist children/teens with various gynecologic issues. Although rewarding, the job market is not the greatest as it is a very niche field so you'll have to find a position that often includes general OB/GYN duties as well including resident supervision.

Good luck!
 
Pediatric/Adolescent Gynecology is a very real and "official" field with a fellowship and board certification just like gyn/onc. Simply, there are many fewer programs than gyn/onc.

Here are the list of programs:
http://www.naspag.org/index.php/trainees

In fact NASPAG's website in it's entirety might be useful to you.

Another complimentary field is Adolescent Medicine which is a Pediatric fellowship. Both will fulfill your interest of sexual health and caring for sexually abused patients. (however, typically will not in the acute setting - ER doctors are the ones who examine and initially treat an abused patient. After that, whomever is the Ob/Gyn on call will be consulted to repair any genital trauma, etc, as needed. Depending on the hospital and location and city size, I suppose you could work out a deal with your hospital to be called for any teens, but as THP said this won't occur often enough to make your entire career.

Basically the difference is:

- Pedi/Adolescent Gyn education path: medical school --> ob/gyn residency (4 years) --> pedi gyn fellowship through obgyn departments
- Adolescent Med education path: medical school --> pediatric residency (3 years) or family medicine residency (3 years) --> adolescent med fellowship through pediatric departments

- Pedi Gyn - only care for female patients. will regularly do limited psychosocial counseling, will regularly perform office procedures. Can also cover general ob/gyn services in the clinic or hospital setting as desired.

- Adol Med - will care for both teen boys and girls. Will regularly do limited psychosocial counseling, will occasionally perform office procedures. Can also cover general pediatric/family medicine services in the clinic or hospital setting as desired.

You can find out more about adolescent medicine here: http://www.adolescenthealth.org and info on fellowships can be found by clicking on Training and CME.


I am currently a 4th year medical student (MD) applying to residency with similar interests as you. It absolutely is a real field and, for me, very fulfilling. However, you should also know most places that offer fellowships are very competitive. This doesn't mean it can't be done with a DO degree (it can!!), just know that you will be at some disadvantage, and will need to be prepared to do a little bit of compensating just to get on equal footing. It's unfair and unfortunate, but true. This doesn't mean you can't do it, because you absolutely can!!! Just be prepared to hit the ground running.

Another option is to sit out a year and revamp your application, and go for an MD school. I know right now that might seem like a frustrating, exhausting, overwhelming prospect when all you want to do is be in doctor school already!! But just keep in mind that at every step of they way you may have to do frustrating, exhausting, overwhelming things to keep up with MD graduates.

And yes, you will hear everyone in their mother tell you to "keep an open mind because your career decision will change". And it might. But there are some of us who have had this passion from the very beginning, and in some ways it makes it easier to make decisions and plan ahead!! I felt the same way you do and with similar interests and it has worked out so far for me. ;)

I wish you the best of luck in this application cycle!!! :luck: :luck:
 
I don't think it's an official fellowship like Gyn Onc. It's not ABOG or ACGME approved.

The official OB GYN fellowships are MFM, REI, FPMRS, and Gyn Onc. Anything else is unofficial

It's more in the vein of minimally invasive surgery.

To the OP:

Like other's have said it is a niche field. The fellowship trained pediatric gyn we have here works 2 days a week and get's paid part time essentially. There isn't the volume for full time work.

Sexual assault stuff acutely is done by SAFE nurses in the ED generally. Post assault is up in the air who manages that (FM, Psych, etc)
 
Thank you guys so much for the wonderful resources and information! That's really helpful and def food for thought. I did do a little local research and found a adolescent gyn clinic in my area thats open a few days a week and one of the docs there is a DO so good to see it can be done. Im seeing now it seems to be a part time thing and im assuming the docs who do it have regular ob/gyn work as well.

For the record the other area of medicine im interested in is adolescent psych. Obviously ive got a long way to go but thanks everyone for the info
 
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