I don't think that's always true unless a program has a hard filter of Step 1 > 225.
You have access to the same charting outcomes that I do. Notice the odds of matching into anything increase with step score. Top MDs can still match these competitive fields, but they’ll take a hit on tier. While low tier with awesome scores can punch above their tier.
I think that’s a bit of hyperbole no? Since step 2 is still scored?
The problem is "all else is equal" doesn't really hold because schools are different and the tippy top programs are so elitist that they're willing to lower Step expectations for school name
Reread the post. I said steps. IMO, step 2 will go p/f very soon after it’s used as the new screening metric.
Yes. But they still have expectations for scores right now. If you don’t meet even the lowered expectations —>no interviews. And believe it or not, the score does play a role in ranking which is variable depending on the field/program. So without this, it’s all about prestige.
If you look at their rational for making step 1 P/F, making the rest P/F makes sense. You only shift the stress to step 2 if step 2 is scored. However, if one of the tests that we take is going to be one that plays a major role in residency placement, the more clinical of the 2 makes more sense. I don't think it will be P/F for the class of 2024 or 2025 though. I think they will space it out.
I still don't know why people predict that with any amount of certainty. It's very possible that happens. It's also possible there's no difference. There's no way to tell until the match.
Have you considered that they used logic and reasoning to weigh the various possible conclusions? People don't just say it will probably be different just for the sake of it.
1) us DOs get massacred
It’ll likely go p/f once we have a few matches where step 2 is the only metric used. People don’t typically study nearly as hard for step 2 and can still pass comfortably. But doing really well takes a commitment most people aren’t really willing to put in when they are already sorted into certain specialties by step 1 to some degree.
Its possible that person with multiple comorbidities who’s been on the vent for a month will wake up and make a full recovery tomorrow. But we all know what’s more likely. Officially though, there’s no way to know until tomorrow.
This.
And yet he said it with complete certainty. I've looked at the threads from like 5 years ago about the residency merger, and many people were just as confidently predicting doom. It's a very real possibility. It is not an 100% guarantee like he thinks it is.
Given that we established that it isn't a fact because we can't know yet it follows that his comment is his opinion. That's implied when you post something on a forum.
Or he's just so overly confident about what he thinks he forgot how time works
"DOs ability to match outside of primary care will probably be massacred "
I couldn't agree more. As a poor standardized taker myself, I love medicine enough to overlook the stress of taking hour-long tests and strive to pass. A bit self bias, but I still argue that best physicians not necessarily are best test takers.
How about a DO has both DO., MD after his last name on his electronic prescription.
Do not believe that was mistakenly printed because it appears in all his prescriptions. It was like this Xxxx Xxx, DO., MD.
Mr. Miyagi says - "Don't try. DO!"
Could still easily be an error. Electronic prescriptions just print your name as whatever IT put into the EMR. All of my electronic scripts have MD after my name. I can easily see how some IT person who has no idea what a DO is just knows the person is a doctor so also slapped MD after their name.
What did you take!?
Without a quantifiable metric for me to show equivalence/superiority to USMDs.
More cowbell.
