You are crazy to apply to radiology these days

[nightflight]

Nobody wants to do at least 1+4+1 years of residency/fellowship and then goes jobless. You guys are crazy to apply to radiology. If you don't believe me, go to your residency program and

1- Ask radiology fellows where they have found a job.
2- See how many fellows are doing a second fellowship: Bunch of them, because there is no job (good job) out there.
3-Do an internet job search for radiology versus any other specialty or even hospitalist and get a rough estimate of job market. There are 180-200 jobs for more than 1000 radiology graduates each year. And most of these jobs are scutwork and abuse.

I don't want to discourage you. You deserve to know what you are entering.

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[rem6775]

1. All the fellows I know have multiple job offers.
2. The job market is cyclical. It has been worse than this before, so this is nothing new.
3. Basing your career choice on a job market that is completely irrelevant to the job market you will face in 6 years is asinine.
4. Have fun as a hospitalist.

 

[nightflight]

1. All the fellows I know have multiple job offers.
2. The job market is cyclical. It has been worse than this before, so this is nothing new.
3. Basing your career choice on a job market that is completely irrelevant to the job market you will face in 6 years is asinine.
4. Have fun as a hospitalist.

1- Jobs that pay 180K reading 150 studies a day without partnership track in the middle of nowhere are available. And fellows are happy that they have found a job so they don't have to torture themselves one more year in their third fellowship
2- Who said it is cyclical? Is there any evidence. In early 90s it was bad, though not as bad as now and then opened in early 2000s mostly because of advancements in MR and MDCT. Unless a totally new modality comes by, which is very unlikely giving very low research budgets in the sloppy economy, the job market becomes tighter and tighter.
3-Agree. But it is a risk. There are multiple better fields in medicine that has never fluctuated as much as radiology. Radiology went from bottom to top and again is going to the bottom. It never happened to other fields with very few exceptions.
4- I am not a hospitalist, and I don't like it though it is a better lifestyle than radiology. When you start to take call in radiology residency as I am doing these days, you will regret about your choice. It is as bad as ICU call and much worse than night float call of internship.

 

[winkleweizen]

obligatory 8==D post for the troll.

 

[Adam638]

I see "Chosen1" has moved from the Aunt Minnie site to Student Doctor now with their negative posts. Get lost loser. Everyone is sick of seeing your posts. If you have such a negative view on the specialty, then stop posting on the forum every hour. Your poor attempts to make medical students "reconsider" radiology are getting old. Thanks.

 

[Taurus]

Yeah, this sounds like chopra/ashleymadison/chosen1/ciss from auntminnie.com.

The job market is tougher than during the heyday but it is true for every field of medicine and dentistry. I know oral surgeons and orthodontics having tough times.

All of the fellows I know had multiple job interviews and offers. Is it as good as it was before the recession? No, but they all got 350k+.

 

[jahbrony]

Nobody wants to do at least 1+4+1 years of residency/fellowship and then goes jobless. You guys are crazy to apply to radiology.

Hi Chopra/p53/chosen1/ashley madison/et. al.

You conveniently deleted your post history from 2008 before you decided to troll with this account. But, I thought I'd bring it back for you. How's rads in your home country going?

Jan 2008
Hi!
I've found this interesting forum recently. I'm a new member.
I'm a FMG who is going to start Radiology residency in my home country next year.One of my interests in this field is Interventional Radiology.Recently I've heard from an interventional Radiologist that even with use of standard precautions(shields , radiation dose meter , eye glasses . etc ) the rate of cancer esp. intracranial & hematologic malignancies is significantly higher in both interventional cardiologists & intervantional radiologists.He also claimed that recent studies has shown somatic cell mutations and DNA breakage & cross-linkage is higher in these groups.He told me that because these fields are relatively new fields and we don't have enough information regarding long-term prognosis of this matter we can't judge clinically , however he claimed that recent studies has shown somatic cell mutations and DNA breakage & cross-linkage is higher in interventionist compared to their colleagues and it will end in a high rate of cancer in the future among these practitioners.

1-What's your opinion in this regard ?(I ask this matter esp from radiologists who are more familiar with hazards of ionizing radiation )?

2-Is there any possible substitution for ionizing radiation in interventions e.g. sono or magnetic field?

[...]

however I completely agree with you that everything in life has its own risks.even driving a car can be hazardous.I can,t think of any field other than Radiology.Nevertheless sometimes it bothers me to listen to these stuff , especially nowadays there are some people out there who can't match in radiology (or any other field they're interested) and they start repeating these stuff again and again.

Regards

 

[Adam638]

I love it....

 

[Substance]

...Auntminnie spills over to SDN.

The OP is clearly an FMG, probably Indian, that wants to dissuade as much competition as possible so that he or she can obtain a residency position in radiology more easily.

You, my friend, are one of the lowest forms of life on this planet. I hope word gets around to every radiology PD that you are a conniving snake.

 

[2012mdc]

I love it....

Haha trolling FAIL

 

[cowme]

...Auntminnie spills over to SDN.

The OP is clearly an FMG, probably Indian, that wants to dissuade as much competition as possible so that he or she can obtain a residency position in radiology more easily.

You, my friend, are one of the lowest forms of life on this planet. I hope word gets around to every radiology PD that you are a conniving snake.

I was wondering why he/she kept saying "US radiology is done"

 

[omarsaleh66]

I was wondering why he/she kept saying "US radiology is done"

Radiology definetely not done. Im a senior resident and there is ton of interest in med students still wanting to do radiology. Why , because not everyone cares about money. Some people are actually interested in the work and technology the field entails.

As far as jobs, sure it not as good as it was before but that goes for all specialties. Radiology still offers the most options. U cant find a job in the city u want to live in, u could always do telerad and live anywhere u want!!

As a senior rads resident, Me and my wife are trying to decide whether to take an IR job vs do telerad and move to the city we want/and possible do IR there vs working in New Zealand for 1 year (kind of work abroad, get away before starting a real job in the US). Again, u have tons of options. I get phone calls and emails about jobs all the time and this is only going to increase as I get closer to finishing fellowship. So dont let this scrub scare u and apply to radiology.

Sure cards and vascular do alot of IR, but IR can do these things, as well as IO, womens therapy, CT/MR guided procedures, and do diagnostic.

I am going to a IR PAD workshop this month, then a IR/vascular surgery dialysis conference in October. And possibly an IR liposuction course later in the year. The point is that IR is so flexible. There are multispecialty groups out there hiring IR for PAD so again, u have lots of options.

I know IR that work for vascular groups, nephrology groups, urology groups, stand alone, and radiology groups. The oportunities are out there. Plus cards have to do 3 year IM + 3 year cards + 1 year cards IR + 1 year additonal for vascular disease. thats 8 years compared to 6 for IR. Vascular surgery , im not sure as they have integrated programs. Again both are good fields, but u still cant go wrong with rads. With reimbursements dropping, many IR are getting there PAD work back.

The place where I moonlight, the IR are doing alot of the PAD, including EVARS, lower limb vascular work, carotids.. There are turf wars but this is the land of opportunity, U just have to go out there and do it. Or u can be a little beeyatch and give up.

AND if u dont want to do IR, there is growing demad for cardiac, breast, body as well as MRI is becoming more widely used and trust me, even general rads aren't that comfortable with MR, so u know other specialites will want subspecialiezed rads reading Msk, body (for oncology), etc..

 

[MossPoh]

I know plenty of jobs and I'm only a frigging M3. It just depends where you want to end up.

 

[fun8stuff]

The job market is not as good as it was a couple years ago and there are continuing cuts to reimbursement... I would prefer less people apply to radiology, but i'm not going to lie and say radiology isn't one of the best fields out there. A lot of areas of medicine are getting hit hard with the same problems. The future of medicine is non-invasive diagnosis and minimally invasive procedures. There aren't many better specialties out there... treating HTN/DM/CAD, treating insecure people's skin problems, or spending my life at the hospital just doesn't excite me too much...

 

[Radiculous]

Hi Chopra/p53/chosen1/ashley madison/et. al.

You conveniently deleted your post history from 2008 before you decided to troll with this account. But, I thought I'd bring it back for you. How's rads in your home country going?

Owned so f*cking hard.

 

[NAGNAM]

Hi Chopra/p53/chosen1/ashley madison/et. al.

You conveniently deleted your post history from 2008 before you decided to troll with this account. But, I thought I'd bring it back for you. How's rads in your home country going?

Wow, epic.

Any verification this is actually Chopra/Ashleymadison/chosen1? I thought I remembered reading he/she/it was a resident on the east coast and not an FMG, and certainly was at least working in the US

 

[ozzi22]

And here i thought gunnerism would end after undergrad

 

[nightflight]

IR doing PAD is a joke. These days you barely find a program that give you enough training of PAD. Those IRs who are doing PAD are old ones. Other than Miami vascular, UVA, Priora and very few other programs, you even can't get the training at other centers. If you doubt it, take a look at IR department @ MGH, MIR, Hopkins, UCLA, UCSF, BWH, UPenn, Emory, .... which are considered powerhouse of radiology. In which you can get enough PAD?

Even if you get the training, you are a loser in competing with Cards and Vascular Surgeons. Cards Self refer. It has been their job for decades. This is the way they have stolen echo from us. Any radiologist doing echo these days?
Vascular Surgeons are the ultimate reference for PAD which is amputation. And they are the only ones who can take care of complications. That is the reason that Cardiologists always respect them and cooperate with them. What radiology offers in this regard? Nothing.

I/O work in IR is another joke. First it is mostly restricted to big academic centers and is not done in the small communities (the place that all of us have to work in the future). There is very few data to support it and most likely will not be reimbursed by insurance.

And why are you moving to New Zealand? You couldn't find the job in the US? Or you have found the job, but it is located in a place which is 4 hours drive to the nearest city.

Radiology definetely not done. Im a senior resident and there is ton of interest in med students still wanting to do radiology. Why , because not everyone cares about money. Some people are actually interested in the work and technology the field entails.

As far as jobs, sure it not as good as it was before but that goes for all specialties. Radiology still offers the most options. U cant find a job in the city u want to live in, u could always do telerad and live anywhere u want!!

As a senior rads resident, Me and my wife are trying to decide whether to take an IR job vs do telerad and move to the city we want/and possible do IR there vs working in New Zealand for 1 year (kind of work abroad, get away before starting a real job in the US). Again, u have tons of options. I get phone calls and emails about jobs all the time and this is only going to increase as I get closer to finishing fellowship. So dont let this scrub scare u and apply to radiology.

Sure cards and vascular do alot of IR, but IR can do these things, as well as IO, womens therapy, CT/MR guided procedures, and do diagnostic.

I am going to a IR PAD workshop this month, then a IR/vascular surgery dialysis conference in October. And possibly an IR liposuction course later in the year. The point is that IR is so flexible. There are multispecialty groups out there hiring IR for PAD so again, u have lots of options.

I know IR that work for vascular groups, nephrology groups, urology groups, stand alone, and radiology groups. The oportunities are out there. Plus cards have to do 3 year IM + 3 year cards + 1 year cards IR + 1 year additonal for vascular disease. thats 8 years compared to 6 for IR. Vascular surgery , im not sure as they have integrated programs. Again both are good fields, but u still cant go wrong with rads. With reimbursements dropping, many IR are getting there PAD work back.

The place where I moonlight, the IR are doing alot of the PAD, including EVARS, lower limb vascular work, carotids.. There are turf wars but this is the land of opportunity, U just have to go out there and do it. Or u can be a little beeyatch and give up.

AND if u dont want to do IR, there is growing demad for cardiac, breast, body as well as MRI is becoming more widely used and trust me, even general rads aren't that comfortable with MR, so u know other specialites will want subspecialiezed rads reading Msk, body (for oncology), etc..

 

[NAGNAM]

We get it dude, you're upset because you couldn't get a job in rads in America. Maybe it's because-- based on your diction and syntax-- you can barely speak English. As for the rest of us, we actually like rads, so please gtfo

 

[nightflight]

AND if u dont want to do IR, there is growing demad for cardiac, breast, body as well as MRI is becoming more widely used and trust me, even general rads aren't that comfortable with MR, so u know other specialites will want subspecialiezed rads reading Msk, body (for oncology), etc..

More and more subspecialists are integrating imaging into their education. What are you smoking?

Cardiac MR and CTA is dominated by cardiologists, though it is not a cash cow at least for now.
Orthopedic surgeons have tried to train their residents to read MR on their own.
The same is going on in Neurology. There are a couple of Neuroradiology fellowships for neurologists all over the country. In many places they have started their Neuro-IR fellowship out of Neurology. You can check University of Minnesota.
OB ultra-sound and cardiac Echo was lost many years ago.
A lot of general surgeons are doing US and US guided biopsies in their practice.

I agree that body imaging will remain in the realm of radiology.
In the future we will read Chest X-rays and MSK X ray (Ortho guys do not want this, because it pays 4 USD per study) and body CT. Chest CT may remain in out turf or may not.
We are family physicians of medical imaging.

 

[nightflight]

We get it dude, you're upset because you couldn't get a job in rads in America. Maybe it's because-- based on your diction and syntax-- you can barely speak English. As for the rest of us, we actually like rads, so please gtfo

Thank you very much. You have solved my problem. Now on top of 2-3 fellowships, I have to do one to two years of English classes to find a job.

FYI, 40% of GI and Card Docs in US are FMG. Most of them have diction and syntax errors and still find 400K + jobs in big cities.

You think you like rads because either you hate medicine or you think you can make 500K a year with an easy job.
Have you ever read a chest CT for cancer followup? Have you ever measured each and every nodule on MIP and 1mm slices?
Have you ever read 40 sloppy ICU portables non-stop? What about those post up x-rays of the spine?

Be lucky to not hate radiology.

 

[NAGNAM]

Sorry you hate your life bro. I legitimately pity you.

 

[NAGNAM]

and lol at doing rads because I hate medicine. I'm doing rads because I like medicine and hate psychosocial BS, calling insurance companies to get a patient two free weeks of plavix when they won't quit smoking 2 packs a day.

 

[Taurus]

Hey Chopra,

Unlike auntminnie, SDN doesn't tolerate trolls. And you can't simply create another account after you've been banned. They can track your IP address.

Cheers.

 

[davidjones]

You forgot brown, Yale, Maine ( community ),u of Chicago, etc. Lots of places in community offer TACE and many are offering y90 and ablation. I'm not going to argue the virtues of ir or radiology with you. But I'm curious if you hate it so much why don't you quit? Failure to answer pretty much prevents you from continuing along your current tirade.

 

[Silent Cool]

Hey everyone,

I just wanted to add that I recently came across insider information that an imaging machine has been developed and that radiologists the world over will no longer be needed.

Get on it quick and become a hospitalist. Radiology is a sinking ship.

Just an FYI.

Good luck.

 

[throwawayuser]

Just wanted to confirm what Silent Cool has mentioned already.

I am part of an elite team of scientists and computer programmers that has developed an "All in One" imager/diagnostician system that eliminates the need for all radiologic staff. IBM is helping us by using their "Watson" AI program that will select the correct protocol, run the study, and then interpret and create a report within 30 seconds.

We've notified all Radiology residency programs in the country, they will be removing Radiology from the ERAS system and the NRMP match.

I wish you all well in whatever new careers you choose. We are looking for radiologists to proofread our system.

 

[Kitra101]

I am a current resident. I am not any of these aliases you were speaking of.

Unfortunately, there is some truth to these comments being made. To pretend like this is not happening at all is foolish.

Some serious changes of the leadership is necessary. It is not Obama care/government/big business that is ruining our specialty, it is from within.

We do face threats from every direction and need to defend our specialty if we hope to have long careers practicing radiology.

If you truly love radiology, then I would suggest that you apply for residency. If this is not an area you are legitimately interested in and you think this is still a lifestyle specialty with promises of minimal work and great salaries, I strongly encourage you to pick a different specialty. Please do your homework.

 

[Mad Jack]

Just wanted to confirm what Silent Cool has mentioned already.

I am part of an elite team of scientists and computer programmers that has developed an "All in One" imager/diagnostician system that eliminates the need for all radiologic staff. IBM is helping us by using their "Watson" AI program that will select the correct protocol, run the study, and then interpret and create a report within 30 seconds.

We've notified all Radiology residency programs in the country, they will be removing Radiology from the ERAS system and the NRMP match.

I wish you all well in whatever new careers you choose. We are looking for radiologists to proofread our system.

You're forgetting that a major function of radiologists is that of the liability sponge. No hospital will ever eliminate radiologists and use a machine to do their reads because then they'd be on the hook for any misdiagnoses that resulted. Given that one bad read can result in a judgement of literally millions of dollars, I don't foresee the diagnostic radiology profession disappearing anytime soon.

 

[DJspreadsheet]

You're forgetting that a major function of radiologists is that of the liability sponge. No hospital will ever eliminate radiologists and use a machine to do their reads because then they'd be on the hook for any misdiagnoses that resulted. Given that one bad read can result in a judgement of literally millions of dollars, I don't foresee the diagnostic radiology profession disappearing anytime soon.

I'm no expert on radiology, but the liability you speak of can be resolved with the stroke of a legislative pen. The health care system is a financial sinking ship - and diagnostic imaging has been, and remains, a large target. It's not out of the realm of likelihood to assume that if computer radiological reads become the accepted standard, then legislation would be passed such that the institution/providers would not be held liable for errors in treatment/outcome born from faulty computer reads.

That said, when technology gets to the point that a computer replaces a radiologist, I'll have to assume the computer would be far less prone to error.

 

[BrooklynBulls]

When a computer can replace a highly specialized physician, a computer will be able to replace every other job, except those building and maintaining those computers. Unless they're dumb enough to invent maintenance robots. Which they probably are.

 

[Mad Jack]

Your idea is completely politically untenable for reasons I'll explain when i get home.

 

[maxxor]

I'm no expert on radiology, but the liability you speak of can be resolved with the stroke of a legislative pen. The health care system is a financial sinking ship - and diagnostic imaging has been, and remains, a large target. It's not out of the realm of likelihood to assume that if computer radiological reads become the accepted standard, then legislation would be passed such that the institution/providers would not be held liable for errors in treatment/outcome born from faulty computer reads.

That said, when technology gets to the point that a computer replaces a radiologist, I'll have to assume the computer would be far less prone to error.

Please come back when automated EKG reports are accurate.

 

[DJspreadsheet]

Please come back when automated EKG reports are accurate.

My comment said nothing of the timeline for this to happen. There will obviously come a day when a computer doesn't need physician oversight. Who knows when it'll happen.

 

[bronx43]

When a computer can replace a highly specialized physician, a computer will be able to replace every other job, except those building and maintaining those computers. Unless they're dumb enough to invent maintenance robots. Which they probably are.

Barring true AI, it will come one day when the only value add for a human is innovation. Everything else can and will be performed better by machines. If true AI comes, then we're probably all toast.

 

[bronx43]

Your idea is completely politically untenable for reasons I'll explain when i get home.

Yeah, yeah. Political. Untenable. We got it.

He's talking more I, Robot than West Wing.

 

[g8orlife]

OMG... I actually just spent my first-ever couple hours on auntminnie (Not doing that again!) and the depressing posts made me want to vomit. I, then, came here to relax and get positive vibes just to see that some troll(s) has revived this POS-auntminnie-like thread.

Chosen1 / Chopra / nightflight / Silent Cool / throwawayuser, do us a favor: gtfoh & go back to auntminnie. Let those of us who actually enjoy radiology - more than other fields - post here.

Thanks.

 

[Mad Jack]

I'm no expert on radiology, but the liability you speak of can be resolved with the stroke of a legislative pen. The health care system is a financial sinking ship - and diagnostic imaging has been, and remains, a large target. It's not out of the realm of likelihood to assume that if computer radiological reads become the accepted standard, then legislation would be passed such that the institution/providers would not be held liable for errors in treatment/outcome born from faulty computer reads.

That said, when technology gets to the point that a computer replaces a radiologist, I'll have to assume the computer would be far less prone to error.

Alright, here's the deal. Tort law is handled at the state level. For it to pass you need to convince state legislators (whose jobs are pretty damn fragile in the best of times) that it is in their best interests to take away the ability of patients to sue their hospital if something were to go wrong with their radiology report. The law lobby would be up in arms against it, since a lot of the med-mal business is imagining. Physician groups would be against it across the board- if radiology can be replaced, who's next? Patient advocate groups would be against it- "They're replacing your doctor with a soulless machine and then telling you you can't sue if that machine fails to diagnose your cancer!" The only lobbying group that might support it would be tech companies, but everyone, and I mean everyone else would be against it politically and it would never, ever pass. Then multiply that failure over fifty gorramn states.

 

[Silent Cool]

Wow, I really $hit-bumped a storm of nonsense, didn't I.

 

[Kitra101]

OMG... I actually just spent my first-ever couple hours on auntminnie (Not doing that again!) and the depressing posts made me want to vomit. I, then, came here to relax and get positive vibes just to see that some troll(s) has revived this POS-auntminnie-like thread.

Chosen1 / Chopra / nightflight / Silent Cool / throwawayuser, do us a favor: gtfoh & go back to auntminnie. Let those of us who actually enjoy radiology - more than other fields - post here.

Thanks.

I'm not sure if you are talking about me but as I mentioned, I'm a current resident and am not chopra or any of those other aliases. If hearing information from people currently in radiology training is trolling and you just don't want to hear that is fine. As I mentioned on aunt Minnie, action is needed. If you truly love radiology as you say, then come on in but roll up your sleeves, get informed and speak out. Help us to fix the issues plaguing the specialty now because they are real and some are potentially correctable. What is needed is a strong leadership that is active rather than passive. This "things happens in cycles" and "there is a job somewhere dojng something for everyone" stuff is nonsense and certainly should not be issued by those in charge. They should not settle on things like that, but should work to change them.

So by all means those of you who think AM is just a bunch of whiny people, don't read there. That makes no difference to me. There are some trolls there for sure. However as I suggested before, do your homework and if the field is right for you, get a spot but advocate to make it better instead of just complaining and accepting things that aren't right.

 

[g8orlife]

I'm not sure if you are talking about me but as I mentioned, I'm a current resident and am not chopra or any of those other aliases. If hearing information from people currently in radiology training is trolling and you just don't want to hear that is fine. As I mentioned on aunt Minnie, action is needed. If you truly love radiology as you say, then come on in but roll up your sleeves, get informed and speak out. Help us to fix the issues plaguing the specialty now because they are real and some are potentially correctable. What is needed is a strong leadership that is active rather than passive. This "things happens in cycles" and "there is a job somewhere dojng something for everyone" stuff is nonsense and certainly should not be issued by those in charge. They should not settle on things like that, but should work to change them.

So by all means those of you who think AM is just a bunch of whiny people, don't read there. That makes no difference to me. There are some trolls there for sure. However as I suggested before, do your homework and if the field is right for you, get a spot but advocate to make it better instead of just complaining and accepting things that aren't right.

I'm not referring to you. I didn't mention your name, because there wasn't a negative vibe to your posts.

I'm all for getting informed...it's just frustrating having to sift thru all the junk to find facts.

 

[meister]

Wow, I really $hit-bumped a storm of nonsense, didn't I.

Great work

 

[pathologyDO]

Came into this thread hoping for good info, just to find a giant turd of a conversation.

 

[DermViser]

Hey everyone,

I just wanted to add that I recently came across insider information that an imaging machine has been developed and that radiologists the world over will no longer be needed.

Get on it quick and become a hospitalist. Radiology is a sinking ship.

Just an FYI.

Good luck.

Of all Rads threads to necrobump, you had to do this one?

 

[greg1184]

 

[Jamie561]

Just wanted to confirm what Silent Cool has mentioned already.

I am part of an elite team of scientists and computer programmers that has developed an "All in One" imager/diagnostician system that eliminates the need for all radiologic staff. IBM is helping us by using their "Watson" AI program that will select the correct protocol, run the study, and then interpret and create a report within 30 seconds.

We've notified all Radiology residency programs in the country, they will be removing Radiology from the ERAS system and the NRMP match.

I wish you all well in whatever new careers you choose. We are looking for radiologists to proofread our system.

I am the "All in One" imager that throwawayuser and SilentCool are referring to. I decided to come to your forum to warn all of you human radiologists that there will be no more jerbs. Pediatric nephrology is still in demand however - I'd encourage you all to apply.

 

[elektroshok]

I think the people doing multiple fellowships or not finding jobs are in 1 of two categories:

1. Set on a specific, larger city or 2 that they only want to live in.
2. One of the many weirdos that we all came across during the interview season that don't realize step scores and knowing a 12 item ddx for a brain lesion wont land them a job.

 

[vm26]

Nobody wants to do at least 1+4+1 years of residency/fellowship and then goes jobless. You guys are crazy to apply to radiology. If you don't believe me, go to your residency program and

1- Ask radiology fellows where they have found a job.
2- See how many fellows are doing a second fellowship: Bunch of them, because there is no job (good job) out there.
3-Do an internet job search for radiology versus any other specialty or even hospitalist and get a rough estimate of job market. There are 180-200 jobs for more than 1000 radiology graduates each year. And most of these jobs are scutwork and abuse.

I don't want to discourage you. You deserve to know what you are entering.

Please stop trying to scare people away, we def need hungry young rads that are following their true passion in life (and aren't driven by mundane issues like $, stress level, time off etc) and would be thrilled/fulfilled cranking out reports overnights 7 on/7 off as an employee in a partnered private-practice

 

[Silent Cool]

I am the "All in One" imager that throwawayuser and SilentCool are referring to. I decided to come to your forum to warn all of you human radiologists that there will be no more jerbs. Pediatric nephrology is still in demand however - I'd encourage you all to apply.

Finally, someone with a sense of humor. LOL.

Radiology is not going anywhere. It is a centerpiece of medicine, folks.

 

[Silent Cool]

Just wanted to confirm what Silent Cool has mentioned already.

I am part of an elite team of scientists and computer programmers that has developed an "All in One" imager/diagnostician system that eliminates the need for all radiologic staff. IBM is helping us by using their "Watson" AI program that will select the correct protocol, run the study, and then interpret and create a report within 30 seconds.

We've notified all Radiology residency programs in the country, they will be removing Radiology from the ERAS system and the NRMP match.

I wish you all well in whatever new careers you choose. We are looking for radiologists to proofread our system.

LOL. Well-played, my friend.