WSJ: Doctors More Likely to Be Democrats Now...

[pmrmd]

The dozens of countries with universal healthcare.

Ok. Do you think those successes would continue here? This population is indulgent, demanding, and generally non-compliant. There has been no plan set forth because the price tag is so high. Medicare as we know it would have to change with Medicare For All with increased limitations and restrictions. With the tax increases no one is going to be paying cash for their care. And since Liz wants to decriminalize illegal entry you may want to start planning on paying for healthcare for every Central American now...


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[SSdoc33]

i dont think Trump will win.....the democrats have attacked him 24/7 and the Republican rhino's havent done anything in response.



maybe not in your neck of the woods or if you listen to liberal media who wont cover it because it doesnt fit their narrative, but in Miami there is a very large Venezuelan population. Come to think of it, there is a large Venezuelan population all around South American now because half of the 50 million Venezuelan's have fled to other countries. Do you think it is coincidence that the govt of Venezuela confiscated the people's guns a few years ago? Does it sound familiar?

"The government under socialist president/dictator Hugo Chavez entirely banned the civilian ownership of firearms and ammunition in 2012, after a period of amnesty during which people could turn in weapons. Naturally, crime continued to increase. As usual, however, the purpose of a gun ban was not about preventing crime but consolidating power. Chavez was just more blatant about it. "

ugh.

liar

use facts for christ's sake.

first of all, it is RINOs,not RHINOs. its not like there are a bunch of ungulates out there refusing to support trump.

second of all, 13% of venezuela's population has fled, not 50%
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13 percent

By mid-2019, over four million Venezuelans, around 13 percent of the country'spopulation, had emigrated since the revolution began in 1999. The United Nations predicted that by the end of 2019, there would have been over 5 million recorded emigrants during the Venezuelan crisis, over 15% of the population.
Venezuelan refugee crisis - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Venezuelan_refugee_crisis


Third of all, it you are going to include a quote, you have to put in a reference. i cant tell if you are actually quoting a legitimate source, or of you are just blowing off steam, which you are so wont to do. i feel like i am correcting a poorly written 10th grade social studies paper.


fourth of all, BaronSamedi, it is like trying to get blood from a stone with these neocons. you are better off just pointing out their lies with legitimate references a la Ducttape. that way, anybody reading this tripe can actually come to a reasonable conclusion.

 

[SSdoc33]

So this program was funded by a grant, which ran dry. Listening to the clip I started to imagine what if I had donated my money to this project, would I feel my personal money was well spent? The answer is no. If I am going to donate my money, I would rather it go to cancer research or something. I don't want to just give money away to people to use at their discretion, even if, as NPR implies in this experiment, they spent it on necessities.

the concept of UBI only might work if it is implemented in concert with trimming down other entitlements like medicaid, food stamps, welfare, social security, etc. otherwise, it is pure and simple a handout (dare i say "bribe") and a waste of money. i sort of think that most people will make stupid choices with the money, and we will end up having to pay for them on the back-end with medical care/housing anyway. that being said: this is never going to happen. nobody is going near entitlements, as it is the 3rd rail of politics.

 

[Doctodd]

ugh.

liar

use facts for christ's sake.

first of all, it is RINOs,not RHINOs. its not like there are a bunch of ungulates out there refusing to support trump.

second of all, 13% of venezuela's population has fled, not 50%
-
13 percent

By mid-2019, over four million Venezuelans, around 13 percent of the country'spopulation, had emigrated since the revolution began in 1999. The United Nations predicted that by the end of 2019, there would have been over 5 million recorded emigrants during the Venezuelan crisis, over 15% of the population.
Venezuelan refugee crisis - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Venezuelan_refugee_crisis


Third of all, it you are going to include a quote, you have to put in a reference. i cant tell if you are actually quoting a legitimate source, or of you are just blowing off steam, which you are so wont to do. i feel like i am correcting a poorly written 10th grade social studies paper.


fourth of all, BaronSamedi, it is like trying to get blood from a stone with these neocons. you are better off just pointing out their lies with legitimate references a la Ducttape. that way, anybody reading this tripe can actually come to a reasonable conclusion.

I have a patient who travels there and he told me half so I don’t have an exact source and I question any other sources. How could anyone be accurate about something like this especially when the government is so oppressive? No comment on gun confiscation? Hopefully we move in the direction of New Zealand to not Venezuela. But with the craziness I’ve seen from the Democrats for the past three years I am not hopeful.

Spelling Nazi

 

[SSdoc33]

I have a patient who travels there and he told me half so I don’t have an exact source and I question any other sources. How could anyone be accurate about something like this especially when the government is so oppressive? No comment on gun confiscation? Hopefully we move in the direction of New Zealand to not Venezuela. But with the craziness I’ve seen from the Democrats for the past three years I am not hopeful.

Spelling Nazi

"The entire democrat party has run on it at one time or another. It’s a steady flow towards it AT BEST. "

another LIE.

the only candidate who has mentioned anything of the sort is beto, and this was only in reference to "assault weapons". the democratic stance in this issue is nowhere near confiscation. sorry, dude, but a lie is a lie.

 

[Doctodd]

"The entire democrat party has run on it at one time or another. It’s a steady flow towards it AT BEST. "

another LIE.

the only candidate who has mentioned anything of the sort is beto, and this was only in reference to "assault weapons". the democratic stance in this issue is nowhere near confiscation. sorry, dude, but a lie is a lie.

You are so optimistic. Watch a Townhall on one of your favorite news channels. They also want complete control of healthcare and open borders. You also take Democrats at their word as if they wouldn’t go all the way if they could.

By the way how many millions of people leaving a socialist country is OK with you? Where do you draw the line? Lol

 

[SSdoc33]

You are so optimistic. Watch a Townhall on one of your favorite news channels. They also want complete control of healthcare and open borders. You also take Democrats at their word as if they wouldn’t go all the way if they could.

By the way how many millions of people leaving a socialist country is OK with you? Where do you draw the line? Lol

i draw the line when someone basis their argument, agenda, policy, etc on lies. you managed to lie 2 more times in the paragraph above.

"oh, what tangled webs we weave, when first we practise to deceive." -- sir walter scott.

you may be like trump in the sense that you dont even know that you are lying. but, it removes ANY shred of credibility that you may have had left. basically, everything that you say is worthless as long as you keep spouting this crap.

 

[lonelobo]

It's called the United States for a reason. The House is the popular vote of the people and reflects the difference in population and equal representation is in the Senate to give smaller states their rights. It sounds like you are in agreement with the "Nation of Texifornia" and what some of those people want gets shoved down the throats of everyone else, even some people in Cali that think differently. The political left craves power and they feel they have the right to dictate their opinions upon others. The undertones are there in your comment, my friend.

The problem with this system is the House doesn't have nearly the power of the Senate, The other problem with House is that so many of these folks were elected in Gerrymandered districts it is not truly " elected by the people"

 

[lonelobo]

Social Democratic Nations Rank Happiest on Global Index (Again). US Ranking Falls (Again).

Out-sized corporate power and wealth inequality were named as reasons for Americans' chronic unhappiness in the UN's annual report

www.commondreams.org

 

[Doctodd]

i draw the line when someone basis their argument, agenda, policy, etc on lies. you managed to lie 2 more times in the paragraph above.

"oh, what tangled webs we weave, when first we practise to deceive." -- sir walter scott.

you may be like trump in the sense that you dont even know that you are lying. but, it removes ANY shred of credibility that you may have had left. basically, everything that you say is worthless as long as you keep spouting this crap.

i think u need to increase your prozac....really

 

[hyperalgesia]

The problem with this system is the House doesn't have nearly the power of the Senate, The other problem with House is that so many of these folks were elected in Gerrymandered districts it is not truly " elected by the people"

I would go the other direction to empower the states as the framers intended.

"According to Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution, “The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, chosen by the legislature thereof for six Years.” The framers believed that in electing senators, state legislatures would cement their ties with the national government."

 

[hyperalgesia]

I think our federalist system is brilliant.

If we had all bodies of govt elected directly by the people, I feel like we would turn into a socialist country of the Venezuelan variety.

 

[lonelobo]

I think our federalist system is brilliant.

If we had all bodies of govt elected directly by the people, I feel like we would turn into a socialist country of the Venezuelan variety.

Please don't jump on this bandwagon.... Docfraud has already owned this

Venezuela had a very questionable election and their whole economy is based on oil.
Funny how the argument never is we will be like one of the Norwegian countries which are some of the best run in the world

 

[geauxg8rs]

the concept of UBI only might work if it is implemented in concert with trimming down other entitlements like medicaid, food stamps, welfare, social security, etc. otherwise, it is pure and simple a handout (dare i say "bribe") and a waste of money. i sort of think that most people will make stupid choices with the money, and we will end up having to pay for them on the back-end with medical care/housing anyway. that being said: this is never going to happen. nobody is going near entitlements, as it is the 3rd rail of politics.

I listened to a podcast where Yang explained his UBI concept. Basically you get either UBI or the welfare.

He thinks more People would pick the UBI. Either he believes people are innately hard working or just wants to increase entitlement spending.
There is no way you will have people pick UBI over their “deserved” welfare. I am sure you will have a section of society argue to have both UBI and welfare. It’s not fair for some rich guy to get the same UBI as the poor guy.
yang falsely believes people will choose the UBI eschewing the welfare. They will go out and do something good with money, like start a new company. Doubtful

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

Please don't jump on this bandwagon.... Docfraud has already owned this

Venezuela had a very questionable election and their whole economy is based on oil.
Funny how the argument never is we will be like one of the Norwegian countries which are some of the best run in the world

The question that really needs to be asked is why change? Our government has worked quite well for over 200 years. If we're going to make a massive change, it's up to those wanting the change to explain why.

 

[hyperalgesia]

Venezuela had a very questionable election and their whole economy is based on oil.
Funny how the argument never is we will be like one of the Norwegian countries which are some of the best run in the world

The latest election maybe but the decline into the current abyss was ushered in with the socialist promises of Hugo Chavez.

If you asked a random sampling of Scandinavians to sit together and sing kumbaya they'd probably do it. Americans not so much. We have different cultures.

 

[SSdoc33]

Please don't jump on this bandwagon.... Docfraud has already owned this

Venezuela had a very questionable election and their whole economy is based on oil.
Funny how the argument never is we will be like one of the Norwegian countries which are some of the best run in the world

? Scandinavian ?

 

[pmrmd]

The problem with this system is the House doesn't have nearly the power of the Senate, The other problem with House is that so many of these folks were elected in Gerrymandered districts it is not truly " elected by the people"

I agree with you about the district maps. The easiest one to change right now is Elijah Cummings district, which curves and meanders to ensure a Democrat is elected.


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[Doctodd]

i cant believe you liberal physicians are arguing to fundamentally change the country towards socialism, or some variant of it. Politcians caused the problems we have and you want to give them more power to fix the so-called problems they themselves created.

 

[Doctodd]

Please don't jump on this bandwagon.... Docfraud has already owned this

Venezuela had a very questionable election and their whole economy is based on oil.
Funny how the argument never is we will be like one of the Norwegian countries which are some of the best run in the world

you are completely clueless lone puppy

 

[hyperalgesia]

This is why I like federalism, with states that have very different philosophies and systems, all under the same constitutional umbrella. If you want uber liberal, we have states for that, with high minimum wage, healthcare mandates, strict gun laws, loose immigration laws, etc.

What I don't like is trying to impose socialism/liberalism on every state via federal law. This annoys the **** out of me because liberals are the first to complain when conservatives try to impose their laws on your state.

 

[lonelobo]

I agree with you about the district maps. The easiest one to change right now is Elijah Cummings district, which curves and meanders to ensure a Democrat is elected.


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[lonelobo]

you are completely clueless lone puppy

DocFraud that really is the pot calling the kettle black

 

[lonelobo]

If you asked a random sampling of Scandinavians to sit together and sing kumbaya they'd probably do it. Americans not so much. We have different cultures.

Agree, but you and Docfraud bring up Venezuela as example of what Democratic social programs would compare to , instead of the Scandinavian countries.
Wonder why? Not on your Fox News talking point list

 

[lonelobo]

The question that really needs to be asked is why change? Our government has worked quite well for over 200 years. If we're going to make a massive change, it's up to those wanting the change to explain why.

I would argue it hasn't worked that great over the last 40 years, Partisan gridlock has stunted this country

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

I would argue it hasn't worked that great over the last 40 years, Partisan gridlock has stunted this country

40 years? Nah

10 years? Probably.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

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The easy fix to that is what California and a few other states have done: California Citizens Redistricting Commission - Wikipedia

Just because a few states abuse this doesn't mean the idea itself is a bad one

 

[hyperalgesia]

Agree, but you and Docfraud bring up Venezuela as example of what Democratic social programs would compare to , instead of the Scandinavian countries.
Wonder why? Not on your Fox News talking point list

Because you guys sound more like the angry, bitter Venezuelans who embraced Hugo Chavez, than Scandinavians to me.

You are not patiently suggesting an improved safety net but instead you want to overhaul the whole federalist system and steamroll anyone in your way.

 

[lonelobo]

Because you guys sound more like the angry, bitter Venezuelans who embraced Hugo Chavez, than Scandinavians to me.

You are not patiently suggesting an improved safety net but instead you want to overhaul the whole federalist system and steamroll anyone in your way.

nope doesn't fit your Faux news talking point

 

[lonelobo]

40 years? Nah

10 years? Probably.

you have a short memory

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

you have a short memory

Then enlighten me: what didn't we get done 40 years ago that we should have?

 

[hyperalgesia]

Then enlighten me: what didn't we get done 40 years ago that we should have?

Capitalism defeated communism. A bitter defeat for socialists.

 

[Doctodd]

No point in arguing with the vagina hat-wearing liberals here. They have no argument as to why we need this in our current economy, just as their party has nothing to run on except orange man bad.

Tomorrow they will be screaming racism or whatever CNN tells them to think.

 

[lobelsteve]

Lunching. Used by Frank Rich in 98 NYT to describe impeachment of Clinton.

 

[lonelobo]

Then enlighten me: what didn't we get done 40 years ago that we should have?

Oh where to start ....infrastructure, climate change, education, etc

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

Oh where to start ....infrastructure, climate change, education, etc

Let's try and be more specific. What infrastructure bills have been proposed, by who, and what stopped them?

Oh, and education did get a nice bipartisan bill not too long ago (No Child Left Behind). That bill was a cluster****. We'd have been better off with gridlocked nothing than that monstrosity.

 

[deleted941485]

Let's try and be more specific. What infrastructure bills have been proposed, by who, and what stopped them?

Oh, and education did get a nice bipartisan bill not too long ago (No Child Left Behind). That bill was a cluster****. We'd have been better off with gridlocked nothing than that monstrosity.

Lol education reform...yeah that went well. Are we any better than the OECD nations now than we were in 2000?

 

[pmrmd]

Lol education reform is right. The current system if soooooo messed up after the reforms. Get the feds out and keep the education systems local. If people haven't learned that yet they aren't looking.

 

[deleted993114]

I have a patient who travels there and he told me half so I don’t have an exact source and I question any other sources. How could anyone be accurate about something like this especially when the government is so oppressive? No comment on gun confiscation? Hopefully we move in the direction of New Zealand to not Venezuela. But with the craziness I’ve seen from the Democrats for the past three years I am not hopeful.

Spelling Nazi

Very few people, if any, will change their political views via debate or conversation with others of different political ideology.

Thus, "arguments" regarding politics should only be viewed as entertainment for those who enjoy such things. Conservatives tend to be more pragmatic and liberals more emotional; when guided by those underlying approaches, there is usually very little common ground on any issues. However, both sides tend to be passionate about their beliefs and are convinced they are "right".

My mother and father are "New Deal democrats" and have never voted for a republican in their lives. Oddly, when you talk to them, they hold views which would be considered "far right" by most, yet vote democrat, as they have always done so. In the past, I used to point out their core beliefs and views were diametrically opposed to those of the party they favored. However, I gave that up many years ago, as (like everyone else), no one changes their views and no political discussion will ever change those views. Besides, who the hell wants to talk politics during family get togethers anyway?

I don't like MOST politicians, as they rarely have the best interest of the nation at heart and, after a few terms in office, are in office as a means to become wealthy. When attorneys make up the occupation of most elected officials, I guess we would expect what we have received over the last 100 years. Oddly, Trump is a non-politician and not a Washington insider; one would think that the majority of the nation would find such an individual to be refreshing. Politics in America, however, is very "tribal" and people support one party or another, regardless of the policies and platform of an individual politician. Given this "tribal" behavior, we, as citizens, continue to elect representatives who are Washington insiders who have no intention of changing the culture in Washington- ever.

 

[SSdoc33]

Very few people, if any, will change their political views via debate or conversation with others of different political ideology.

Thus, "arguments" regarding politics should only be viewed as entertainment for those who enjoy such things. Conservatives tend to be more pragmatic and liberals more emotional; when guided by those underlying approaches, there is usually very little common ground on any issues. However, both sides tend to be passionate about their beliefs and are convinced they are "right".

My mother and father are "New Deal democrats" and have never voted for a republican in their lives. Oddly, when you talk to them, they hold views which would be considered "far right" by most, yet vote democrat, as they have always done so. In the past, I used to point out their core beliefs and views were diametrically opposed to those of the party they favored. However, I gave that up many years ago, as (like everyone else), no one changes their views and no political discussion will ever change those views. Besides, who the hell wants to talk politics during family get togethers anyway?

I don't like MOST politicians, as they rarely have the best interest of the nation at heart and, after a few terms in office, are in office as a means to become wealthy. When attorneys make up the occupation of most elected officials, I guess we would expect what we have received over the last 100 years. Oddly, Trump is a non-politician and not a Washington insider; one would think that the majority of the nation would find such an individual to be refreshing. Politics in America, however, is very "tribal" and people support one party or another, regardless of the policies and platform of an individual politician. Given this "tribal" behavior, we, as citizens, continue to elect representatives who are Washington insiders who have no intention of changing the culture in Washington- ever.

"refreshing" is not the word i would use

 

[hyperalgesia]

Very few people, if any, will change their political views via debate or conversation with others of different political ideology.

Thus, "arguments" regarding politics should only be viewed as entertainment for those who enjoy such things. Conservatives tend to be more pragmatic and liberals more emotional; when guided by those underlying approaches, there is usually very little common ground on any issues. However, both sides tend to be passionate about their beliefs and are convinced they are "right".

My mother and father are "New Deal democrats" and have never voted for a republican in their lives. Oddly, when you talk to them, they hold views which would be considered "far right" by most, yet vote democrat, as they have always done so. In the past, I used to point out their core beliefs and views were diametrically opposed to those of the party they favored. However, I gave that up many years ago, as (like everyone else), no one changes their views and no political discussion will ever change those views. Besides, who the hell wants to talk politics during family get togethers anyway?

I don't like MOST politicians, as they rarely have the best interest of the nation at heart and, after a few terms in office, are in office as a means to become wealthy. When attorneys make up the occupation of most elected officials, I guess we would expect what we have received over the last 100 years. Oddly, Trump is a non-politician and not a Washington insider; one would think that the majority of the nation would find such an individual to be refreshing. Politics in America, however, is very "tribal" and people support one party or another, regardless of the policies and platform of an individual politician. Given this "tribal" behavior, we, as citizens, continue to elect representatives who are Washington insiders who have no intention of changing the culture in Washington- ever.

Im my experience, liberals actually love politicians. Politicians are idols who say the right words and emote appropriately. They represent their constituents personally (this is "who we are") and serve as personal role models.

 

[lonelobo]

Im my experience, liberals actually love politicians. Politicians are idols who say the right words and emote appropriately. They represent their constituents personally (this is "who we are") and serve as personal role models.

Utter Nonsense....Conservatives have been masturbating to thought of a reincarnation of Reagan since the 90's

 

[hyperalgesia]

Utter Nonsense....Conservatives have been masturbating to thought of a reincarnation of Reagan since the 90's

Who puts more importance on political correctness?

 

[lonelobo]

Who puts more importance on political correctness?

Has nothing to do with your previous statement , pulled from the depths of your Arse

 

[Ducttape]

Communism

Who puts more importance on political correctness?

who puts more importance on blind obedience to the leader, irrespective of all the inappropriate doublespeak coming out of his mouth?

as a side note,, its good that someone is making sure that New Mexico Americans are not illegally crossing our borders in to Colorado...

 

[lonelobo]

I can see the wall being built from my back yard

 

[Ducttape]

ahh yes...

 

[hyperalgesia]

Has nothing to do with your previous statement , pulled from the depths of your Arse

Did I say it had something to do with the previous statement? It's a new question that has no bearing whatsoever on anything that has ever been discussed.

 

[SSdoc33]

ahh yes...

Are we going to do Stonehenge again tomorrow?

 

[SSdoc33]

Im my experience, liberals actually love politicians. Politicians are idols who say the right words and emote appropriately. They represent their constituents personally (this is "who we are") and serve as personal role models.

Idiotic statement