Why take a post-graduate general dental program - GPR/AEGD

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It is the beginning of March, now is the time to think what you may want to do when you finish. For AEGDs and GPRs the residents have been there for 8 months and can answer you questions... you may want to plan visits.

Even if you are thinking of private practice, now is the time to seek areas to, what is needed to get a license and even visit practices.

Most grad programs do not require boards, so they will be a place to go, learn for a year, and seek a job or other grad programs

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Hello..anyone knows about any good gpr programs in connecticut
 
Hello..anyone knows about any good gpr programs in connecticut
The only two I know anything about are the two in Hartford - St. Francis and Hartford Hospital. SFH residents take a more rigorous call schedule (once a week, but ER calls will range from lacerations anywhere above the neck to fractured teeth) than HH (where UConn OMFS handles anything not directly related to teeth) - UConn only covers SFH for jaw fractures. OR schedules in each vary - SFH sees more developmentally disabled patients, while HH sees a lot of pre-transplant patients. Aside from those key differences, SFH has 6-8 residents/year while HH has 4. I'd contact the program directors if you have other questions.
 
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I have noticed that many students that did the program and went to a solo practice are doing very well, because they don't refer out much and know how to handle situations when they dont work out exactly likes its stated in a textbook. On the other hand I noticed that those who went straight to work struggle a lot more and a lot longer and refer out a lot of cases bc of "perceived" difficulty. While there are some programs that suck the best is to try and contact someone in the program and get a feel for it. I recommeded for everyone out of school, so that they can improve their exposure, gain speed, and learn to handle situations when they arise with the guidance of someone who has been practicing for a while.
 
Dr.Arm,
I really appreciate your guidance through out the thread. Can you please let me know what are the requirements for applying to AEGD program? and what is matching? I am a foreign trained graduate and i am done with my NBDE part 1 and 2.
Thank you.
 
Dr.Arm,
I really appreciate your guidance through out the thread. Can you please let me know what are the requirements for applying to AEGD program? and what is matching? I am a foreign trained graduate and i am done with my NBDE part 1 and 2.
Thank you.

hello,
each program has their own requirement. Some, by state law cannot take international grads. Some are very competitive. Best is to check with each program. Check with the match list on the forum.... when you see all openings... those may be the best to apply to

any other info,,, just call
 
I am interested in doing a gpr to get more overall experience, and I've been searching everywhere for programs that work with pedo, and I've seen one so far that deals with special needs pts, but I am still searching up and down for a list of programs (those included in match and those not included in match) of different programs for peds, where can I go or do you know of any?
 
I am interested in doing a gpr to get more overall experience, and I've been searching everywhere for programs that work with pedo, and I've seen one so far that deals with special needs pts, but I am still searching up and down for a list of programs (those included in match and those not included in match) of different programs for peds, where can I go or do you know of any?

If you don't get any responses from people with specific residencies, you can go through the master list on the Ada website or look at all the program descriptions in the asda guide to residencies. I it looks like it has potential, send the director an email. It can't hurt for the director to know your name and that you're interested.
 
If you don't get any responses from people with specific residencies, you can go through the master list on the Ada website or look at all the program descriptions in the asda guide to residencies. I it looks like it has potential, send the director an email. It can't hurt for the director to know your name and that you're interested.

I agree.There are still more openings.... and some happen the end of June when someone does not show up
 
The only reason to do something like an AGD is to get hospital experience so you can work on people in the hospital. You could even work as a "childrens dentist" this way and you would have hospital privileges. (Most hospitals require a 1yr hospital rotation to give you hospital privileges). After that, you can take anyone to the hospital. All other reasons for doing it just aren't worth it. The pay is too low and the experience usually isn't what you hoped it would be.
 
The only reason to do something like an AGD is to get hospital experience so you can work on people in the hospital. You could even work as a "childrens dentist" this way and you would have hospital privileges. (Most hospitals require a 1yr hospital rotation to give you hospital privileges). After that, you can take anyone to the hospital. All other reasons for doing it just aren't worth it. The pay is too low and the experience usually isn't what you hoped it would be.

You're welcome to your opinion, but obviously hundreds of intelligent graduates each year disagree with you.

If someone is on the fence about doing a residency, talk to several dentists you respect. I did.
 
The only reason to do something like an AGD is to get hospital experience so you can work on people in the hospital. You could even work as a "childrens dentist" this way and you would have hospital privileges. (Most hospitals require a 1yr hospital rotation to give you hospital privileges). After that, you can take anyone to the hospital. All other reasons for doing it just aren't worth it. The pay is too low and the experience usually isn't what you hoped it would be.

an AGD... is not only a GPR in a hospital but also an AEGD... with no or limited hospital experience (also little emergency after hour experience). Many of these are great and expand your dental skills.
 
Hi friends,

Does anyone know any good AEGD and GPR programs in Los angeles..?
 
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Can anyone tell me what should be the GPA for getting into GPR?

Thanks
 
Can anyone tell me what should be the GPA for getting into GPR?

Thanks

Every program differs Many look at the total person. Every thing you have done. Volunteer work , life experience. The other things you do. Why your grades were bad, what problems you had.
 
Thanks for your reply....


Every program differs Many look at the total person. Every thing you have done. Volunteer work , life experience. The other things you do. Why your grades were bad, what problems you had.
 
I took a different route, going back to do a 2 year GPR program after 10 years of GP practice. In many ways I wish I had done this straight out of school as it would have added significantly to my production in private practice (and decreased my frustration levels). However, in others I think this is the perfect way to do it because I knew going into it exactly what I wanted to get back out of it.

Nearing the end of year one, these are some of the things I have added to my 10 years out of school skill set:
- implant placement
- endo times cut in half, with the ability to tackle more complicated molars
- a wide variety of perio surgeries, including crown lengthening, GTR, lateral pedicle, free gingival, and allografts
- impacted 3rd molars
- IV sedation, ACLS, PALS, and comfort with moderate difficulty intubations and IV access
- expanded pedo, including papoose and OR
- special needs care, craniofacial team participation, and pre-treatment cancer patient management
- extraoral I&D including Ludwig's management
- trauma suturing both intraoral and extraoral
- interceptive ortho
- pre-prosthetic oral surgery, including tori removal and vestibuloplasty

I feel totally comfortable working in an OR environment on both surgical and pediatric full mouth rehabilitation cases. My confidence level and efficiency when approaching complicated surgical extractions has tripled. I've gained more knowledge about immunology, microbiology, and pathology, plus the relationships between them, than I ever expected.

So how would this affect my bottom line should I choose to return to private practice?

1) Addition of IV sedation and OR capabilities is a huge practice builder.
2) I would have less money lost on referrals for things like molar endo and implant placement, and attract patients who like to have everything done in house.
3) Completion of a residency and subsequent passing of ABGD and or F A G D can be advertised, and builds the perception of a higher level of competence with potential patients. (Mods: please check auto censor on fellowship acronym??)
4) My chairtime requirements for more complicated procedures like surgical extractions and molar endo would be drastically reduced.
5) By adding 2 years experience working in a hospital setting on medically compromised patients, my understanding of medical pathology has increased dramatically. The result would be a significant reduction in risk when treating medically compromised patients compared to before.

Of course, that doesn't mention the fact that it would open the doors of academia and/or a speciality residency should I choose to pursue either one. Nor does it mention the fact that, since I wear a uniform for a living, an additional 40k/year retention bonus will be coming my way.

And I don't know what world DentStudent2010 lives in, but where I come from one is paid on collections in private practice. No work = no collections so the idea of paid vacation and sick leave is absurd. Some practices may offer paid malpractice, CE, and other insurances, but generally one pays for that with a lower percentage collections. Plus, I hate to tell ya, but if any of these other folks pursue a residency and you don't, they can and will snatch the best positions right out from under you. Practice owners drool over residency trained docs - higher efficiency and the possibility of in-house referrals - especially if the only other choice is a new grad - who has been stressing over 2-3 patients/day and has a minimal skill set. ;)
 
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Thanks for the great post... hopefully it will help others who are in school


I took a different route, going back to do a 2 year GPR program after 10 years of GP practice. In many ways I wish I had done this straight out of school as it would have added significantly to my production in private practice (and decreased my frustration levels). However, in others I think this is the perfect way to do it because I knew going into it exactly what I wanted to get back out of it.

Nearing the end of year one, these are some of the things I have added to my 10 years out of school skill set:
- implant placement
- endo times cut in half, with the ability to tackle more complicated molars
- a wide variety of perio surgeries, including crown lengthening, GTR, lateral pedicle, free gingival, and allografts
- impacted 3rd molars
- IV sedation, ACLS, PALS, and comfort with moderate difficulty intubations and IV access
- expanded pedo, including papoose and OR
- special needs care, craniofacial team participation, and pre-treatment cancer patient management
- extraoral I&D including Ludwig's management
- trauma suturing both intraoral and extraoral
- interceptive ortho
- pre-prosthetic oral surgery, including tori removal and vestibuloplasty

I feel totally comfortable working in an OR environment on both surgical and pediatric full mouth rehabilitation cases. My confidence level and efficiency when approaching complicated surgical extractions has tripled. I've gained more knowledge about immunology, microbiology, and pathology, plus the relationships between them, than I ever expected.

So how would this affect my bottom line should I choose to return to private practice?

1) Addition of IV sedation and OR capabilities is a huge practice builder.
2) I would have less money lost on referrals for things like molar endo and implant placement, and attract patients who like to have everything done in house.
3) Completion of a residency and subsequent passing of ABGD and or F A G D can be advertised, and builds the perception of a higher level of competence with potential patients. (Mods: please check auto censor on fellowship acronym??)
4) My chairtime requirements for more complicated procedures like surgical extractions and molar endo would be drastically reduced.
5) By adding 2 years experience working in a hospital setting on medically compromised patients, my understanding of medical pathology has increased dramatically. The result would be a significant reduction in risk when treating medically compromised patients compared to before.

Of course, that doesn't mention the fact that it would open the doors of academia and/or a speciality residency should I choose to pursue either one. Nor does it mention the fact that, since I wear a uniform for a living, an additional 40k/year retention bonus will be coming my way.

And I don't know what world DentStudent2010 lives in, but where I come from one is paid on collections in private practice. No work = no collections so the idea of paid vacation and sick leave is absurd. Some practices may offer paid malpractice, CE, and other insurances, but generally one pays for that with a lower percentage collections. Plus, I hate to tell ya, but if any of these other folks pursue a residency and you don't, they can and will snatch the best positions right out from under you. Practice owners drool over residency trained docs - higher efficiency and the possibility of in-house referrals - especially if the only other choice is a new grad - who has been stressing over 2-3 patients/day and has a minimal skill set. ;)
 
I did an AEGD out of dental school for a year. It really varies residency to residency. Although there were things that came up short in my residency, I tried to just take the best of out of it and learn from all the attendings - especially the specialists.

I'm glad I did my AEGD but at the same event, I learned a ton more after being in practice for a few years, because working in different demographics and new technologies will play a role in how you treatment plan.

Also, by doing my residency, I didn't have to take the WREB or CA Dental Board Exam to get licensed back home in California. Worked out in the end! I think the same is for NYC!

Good luck!
 
hi guys,i m a indian dental graduate.i want to apply for gpr or aegd..please anyone can guide me what i need to do?i have us green card.
 
hi guys,i m a indian dental graduate.i want to apply for gpr or aegd..please anyone can guide me what i need to do?i have us green card.

check with the programs that accept international grads.... since for licensure you may need atleast 2 years, you may want to check the dental schools with international programs

In Florida, there is a 2 year AEGD for international grads
 
Does anyone know what time of the year GPR/AEGDs start to interview applicants?
 
Does anyone know what time of the year GPR/AEGDs start to interview applicants?

applications should have been started. most look at PASS applications
review starts in Oct - Late Nov.
programs start interviews from early Oct., Nov
Most interview late Nov. Dec.

each program is different.
some interview all, some just a select few.
 
Interesting perspective....I actually took did a 2-year residency straight out of school....I have to admit that I did not get everything I wanted out of the residency, mainly because I didn't really know what I wanted going into it. It definitely helps if you can clearly define what you want out of a residency going into it. Also, I didn't research other programs well enough--I think what I would've done differently is be open to apply to different areas because you may think you want to be in a certain state, but find that the experience you wanted to gain from that residency wasn't quite what you expected. Kudos to you, dragonteeth, for making the move to do the 2-yr residency after 10 yrs i practice :thumbup:

I took a different route, going back to do a 2 year GPR program after 10 years of GP practice. In many ways I wish I had done this straight out of school as it would have added significantly to my production in private practice (and decreased my frustration levels). However, in others I think this is the perfect way to do it because I knew going into it exactly what I wanted to get back out of it.

Nearing the end of year one, these are some of the things I have added to my 10 years out of school skill set:
- implant placement
- endo times cut in half, with the ability to tackle more complicated molars
- a wide variety of perio surgeries, including crown lengthening, GTR, lateral pedicle, free gingival, and allografts
- impacted 3rd molars
- IV sedation, ACLS, PALS, and comfort with moderate difficulty intubations and IV access
- expanded pedo, including papoose and OR
- special needs care, craniofacial team participation, and pre-treatment cancer patient management
- extraoral I&D including Ludwig's management
- trauma suturing both intraoral and extraoral
- interceptive ortho
- pre-prosthetic oral surgery, including tori removal and vestibuloplasty

I feel totally comfortable working in an OR environment on both surgical and pediatric full mouth rehabilitation cases. My confidence level and efficiency when approaching complicated surgical extractions has tripled. I've gained more knowledge about immunology, microbiology, and pathology, plus the relationships between them, than I ever expected.

So how would this affect my bottom line should I choose to return to private practice?

1) Addition of IV sedation and OR capabilities is a huge practice builder.
2) I would have less money lost on referrals for things like molar endo and implant placement, and attract patients who like to have everything done in house.
3) Completion of a residency and subsequent passing of ABGD and or F A G D can be advertised, and builds the perception of a higher level of competence with potential patients. (Mods: please check auto censor on fellowship acronym??)
4) My chairtime requirements for more complicated procedures like surgical extractions and molar endo would be drastically reduced.
5) By adding 2 years experience working in a hospital setting on medically compromised patients, my understanding of medical pathology has increased dramatically. The result would be a significant reduction in risk when treating medically compromised patients compared to before.

Of course, that doesn't mention the fact that it would open the doors of academia and/or a speciality residency should I choose to pursue either one. Nor does it mention the fact that, since I wear a uniform for a living, an additional 40k/year retention bonus will be coming my way.

And I don't know what world DentStudent2010 lives in, but where I come from one is paid on collections in private practice. No work = no collections so the idea of paid vacation and sick leave is absurd. Some practices may offer paid malpractice, CE, and other insurances, but generally one pays for that with a lower percentage collections. Plus, I hate to tell ya, but if any of these other folks pursue a residency and you don't, they can and will snatch the best positions right out from under you. Practice owners drool over residency trained docs - higher efficiency and the possibility of in-house referrals - especially if the only other choice is a new grad - who has been stressing over 2-3 patients/day and has a minimal skill set. ;)
 
I took a different route, going back to do a 2 year GPR program after 10 years of GP practice. In many ways I wish I had done this straight out of school as it would have added significantly to my production in private practice (and decreased my frustration levels).
...
- implant placement
- endo times cut in half, with the ability to tackle more complicated molars
- a wide variety of perio surgeries, including crown lengthening, GTR, lateral pedicle, free gingival, and allografts
...
- expanded pedo, including papoose and OR
- special needs care, craniofacial team participation, and pre-treatment cancer patient management
...
- interceptive ortho
...
Practice owners drool over residency trained docs...

But you could complete a specialty education in endodontics, pediatric dentistry or orthodontics in the same period of time and your salary/production could substantially increase. Now if you are doing this for military advancement and salary increase, it is a justified reason for doing a GPR.

I also know quite a few practice docs who do not care if you have done residency in GP. 2 years in a GP residency program is a gamble. If you get a good experience like this poster, it may be worth it... but I speak to too many dentists who said their programs were a waste of a year/couple of years. Sad to hear, yes, but there are some who say their experience was worth it.
 
I just have a few questions I'd like to ask.
My goal is to become a very proficient and skilled general practitioner.
After dental school, I plan to work in an under-served clinic for 2-3 years. (something i wanted to do and it helps me to get my speed and confidence up)

With that being said,
1) how is GPR/AEGD compared to working at an under-served clinics? Do you do similar cases? more complicated cases?

2) Someone mentioned earlier that GPR is more focused on medicine (trauma, surgery, etc) and AEGD focuses on dentistry (molar endo, surgical extration, implants, etc). GPR won't be beneficial much for regular dentistry since it is more for medicine and residents who want to specialize?

3) If the goal is becoming more proficient and faster at procedures (hopefully don't refer out much), would you recommend doing GPR/AEGD or working at under-served clinics?

4) I have heard AEGD programs at dental schools allow residents to see only 2 patients a day. Are all AEGD programs like that? AEGD is only offered at dental schools?

thanks


Good questions. I'm curious about this as well. I'm planning on working in an under-served area after school as well (if they'll have me, of course). Just from my volunteer experience in those settings, I feel like I might not be exposed to really advanced cases. I see a lot of extractions, amalgam, and partial root canals. I'm assuming this has to vary by where you practice and the type of facilities and doctors on staff. Or maybe it's the nature of that sector of dentistry. Hopefully someone can chime in on A6's question.

[Excuse my lack of proper terminology and such. ]
 
A community health care center can give you a lot of experience - but in volume, low cost items, extractions.

Several AEGDs and GPRs are affilated with health centers - you get the volume but also the training that then program will provided - implants, advanced oral surgery, pros.

"My goal is to become a very proficient and skilled general practitioner.
After dental school, I plan to work in an under-served clinic for 2-3 years. (something i wanted to do and it helps me to get my speed and confidence up)" excellent to give back, but 1 year of an educational program will still be giving back, learning and make you more attractive for a job

1) how is GPR/AEGD compared to working at an under-served clinics? Do you do similar cases? more complicated cases? As I said, you may rotate to a clinic, but also the programs have an educational portion - each program is different, check with the programs/residents. The training programs have more advanced cases

2) Someone mentioned earlier that GPR is more focused on medicine (trauma, surgery, etc) and AEGD focuses on dentistry (molar endo, surgical extration, implants, etc). GPR won't be beneficial much for regular dentistry since it is more for medicine and residents who want to specialize?Again each program is different. Many overlap. I have taught at two AEGDs which cover medicine very well, but limited on advanced OS... that you may want in your practice... I was at one AEGD that had enough IV Sedation to met all state requirements....The difference between the two is less and less

3) If the goal is becoming more proficient and faster at procedures (hopefully don't refer out much), would you recommend doing GPR/AEGD or working at under-served clinics?I would recommend an advance program... either GPR or AEGD... then some time in a community health center. You may want to work part-time at the center and start with a practice part-timeR]

4) I have heard AEGD programs at dental schools allow residents to see only 2 patients a day. Are all AEGD programs like that? AEGD is only offered at dental schools?Even at dental schools you see a lot more patients... the requirements demand more patients... but each program is different

hope this helps... any questions just call
 
hi i'm a 3rd year student and as i'm getting ready for the PASS application to open this may, i'm wondering if you need a good gpa for AEGD?

i have a little sub-3.0 gpa as i tend to concentrate more clinically than didactically. however, as i look at the requirements on the PASS website of various locations, most(if not all) of the AEGD programs i searched so far didn't require a transcript, just a pass of NBDE I at time of application, and completion of NBDE II and dental degree by time of entrance. actually some required pre-doctoral undergrad transcript, but none required dental school transcript.

help me understand if i'm missing something, do they require dental school transcript at some point during the application? or after you get accepeted into aegd already? and most important-do you need a good gpa for AEGD? thanks
 
hi i'm a 3rd year student and as i'm getting ready for the PASS application to open this may, i'm wondering if you need a good gpa for AEGD?

i have a little sub-3.0 gpa as i tend to concentrate more clinically than didactically. however, as i look at the requirements on the PASS website of various locations, most(if not all) of the AEGD programs i searched so far didn't require a transcript, just a pass of NBDE I at time of application, and completion of NBDE II and dental degree by time of entrance. actually some required pre-doctoral undergrad transcript, but none required dental school transcript.

help me understand if i'm missing something, do they require dental school transcript at some point during the application? or after you get accepeted into aegd already? and most important-do you need a good gpa for AEGD? thanks

Each program is different and look for different thing. All programs ask for dental transcripts(I don't understand your comment - I believe you are in error) and class standing (school differ - some P/F etc). All ask for recommendations.
Some want to see undergrad records, if there is no other grades or see if there can expect more if you had an off year. The all look at essays.

Most want a "total" student - one who works hard and gets along well with others. Interview is important.

Ask your faculty and the students who applied this year.
 
Now is the time to start applying for the rising seniors.... for the juniors it is time to start looking... Look to attend "resident fairs" - a large one will be at greater NY meeting.
 
I'm currently in the process of completing my PASS application for GPRs/AEGDs...most of the programs I am applying to have a deadline of around mid October. Is there any benefit to submitting my application now versus around early September ?

Also, how do you recommend handling applying to both programs that accept the match and those that don't? As I'm sure you know, applying isn't cheap and I'm not sure how I would handle an offer from a non-match program if I still had yet to interview/hear back from match programs.

Thanks in advance for any advice!
 
I'm currently in the process of completing my PASS application for GPRs/AEGDs...most of the programs I am applying to have a deadline of around mid October. Is there any benefit to submitting my application now versus around early September ?

Also, how do you recommend handling applying to both programs that accept the match and those that don't? As I'm sure you know, applying isn't cheap and I'm not sure how I would handle an offer from a non-match program if I still had yet to interview/hear back from match programs.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

The early your application is ready, start applying. Send additional info, updates as available.

Once you enter the match does not mean you must stay in the match. If a non-match program offers you a spot and you want it take it.... BUT BE ETHICAL.....
1) drop out of the match formally, do not submit a ranking list
2) don't hedge your bet.... ie stay in match, then decide if you want to switch... this would hurt other students, the programs, and will reflect on you...

any questions, you can always call
 
Dr. Arm & any other practicing dentist,

I realize I'm early in my second year and still have a few years to figure things out with my skill/comfort level, but I've pretty much decided on doing a GPR/AEGD. However, I'm thinking of working in PP or PH for a year fresh out, to figure out what I really want out of a post-grad program and where I really want to aim my focus. My professional plan is PP offering a wide-scope. Your thoughts?
In addition Dr. Arm (& others), what have you heard or is your opinion regarding NC programs such as CMC GPR, ECU GPR, and UNC GPR/AEGD? I'm thinking of contacting these particular programs next year and visiting. Thanks!
 
Dr. Arm & any other practicing dentist,

I realize I'm early in my second year and still have a few years to figure things out with my skill/comfort level, but I've pretty much decided on doing a GPR/AEGD. However, I'm thinking of working in PP or PH for a year fresh out, to figure out what I really want out of a post-grad program and where I really want to aim my focus. My professional plan is PP offering a wide-scope. Your thoughts?
In addition Dr. Arm (& others), what have you heard or is your opinion regarding NC programs such as CMC GPR, ECU GPR, and UNC GPR/AEGD? I'm thinking of contacting these particular programs next year and visiting. Thanks!


UNC with Dr. Patten has an excellent GPR. Your new school in NC, programs are too new to really comment about.
Never too early to think about the future. PP is private practice? professional plan? PH is public health? Sometimes a community health center can be as good as public health. Start asking seniors as they go to interviews about programs. Once out in a private practice people may ask why to a residency.... are you looking for a speciality.

Feel free to contact me any time
 
If anyone is searching for a Pedo heavy/Special Needs GPR you can check out OU Medical Center GPR. 6 months is spent at OU Children's Hospital and 4 months at the OU VA. 60+ oral conscious sedations, 60+ OR Pedo cases. This program tends to be a "feeder" program to Pediatric Residency. Plenty of screaming kids here.
 
I'm in third year and still trying to decide if I should apply for AEGD/GPR program.
When do we need to start applying for AEGD/GPR program?
 
Can someone please list the open GPR spots for 2013-2014? Thank You
 
Now is the time to check with current residents before the finish.... By May, the will be able to answer most of your questions

Start lining up recommendations
Start drafting your essay

Go on line and start reviewing possible programs
 
Does anyone know what is the lowest GPA that a GPR/AEGD program will consider for international dentists?
 
For international dentists there are many requirements... many programs by their choices or state laws can not take international dentists... most take the best qualified so the GPA will vary....
There are some programs that are for international dentists... but they have a period of time to "calibrate" the applicants... like a test of their own....
 
Time to finalize which programs you are interested in, finishing the PASS forms and speaking to faculty who will recommend you. If time allows, you may want to make a short visit to some programs.
 
You are correct, a residency is a JOB. And that is the ultimate goal for most dental students who are training for a CAREER in dentistry. Here are some of the financial factors you missed in this job:

1. Complete benefit package, which is included with the job, that would cost you in the neighborhood of $20,000.
2. Free malpractice insurance through the sponsoring hospital
3. Paid vacation, not available in many private practice jobs
4. Paid sick leave
5. Paid time off for CE
6. Paid time off to take boards or licensing exams
7. Paid CE
8. Paid disability
9. Paid life insurance
10. Paid major medical and dental insurance

Just a few of the perks at a hospital based GPR

Further, you will not be able to start working for some time after your graduation, as it takes time for your license, DEA, etc to be processed as well as setting up your malpractice insurance. Residency starts July 1 after graduation, no license required, just a diploma, so add in the lost income of the perhaps 2 months you will be waiting around ( or working in Starbucks)

As far as the 8-10 patients a day, that's called training for the real world, and your speed and efficiency will be up to par when you complete the GPR, as opposed to the snail pace that most D-students work at. Get a grip, there's no free lunch, and no hopsital will pay you for nothing.
Hi i have done my graduation in dentistry from Pakistan and have a BDS degree. I wanted to know that can i do post graduation from USA without NBDE. As i dont wanna practice in the USA. Kindly tell me if you know anything about it.
 
Hi i have done my graduation in dentistry from Pakistan and have a BDS degree. I wanted to know that can i do post graduation from USA without NBDE. As i dont wanna practice in the USA. Kindly tell me if you know anything about it.
 
hey guys, canadian here studying in a canadian dental school
do I need to take the NBDE part 1 and 2 if I want to pursue a 1 post-graduate program in the USA? I will practice in Canada so I didnt feel the need, is it mandatory?
 
This is a great thread for anyone thinking about a GRP or AEGD. If you read this thread you will be well ahead of the game.I especially liked Dr Arms comments (from a directors perspective).
I wanted to add:
Each program can change from year to year. Like a football team. You lose the director,its like a quarterback change. If the supporting cast is well established ,its a small bump in the road. But if you change directors or lose mentoring staff all at once,it will change a a stellor program to " so-so"
when applying ,make sure you know what you will get out of it when you are done. Make sure you know the difference between a"job residency and and educational residency". some will be at one end and others at the other end, with everything in between. It's a grey line between an AEGD and GPR and programs vary wildy in proceedures,based on mentoring staffs skillset.
Talk to seasoned doctors who will give you feedback about your mentoring faculty and the program. You need to talk to current residents after they have been in the program for at least 7 months. Best time to gather data is March.
Visit the program ,if possible before you apply.
 
Dr. Arm,

I want to thank you for starting this thread. I am a pre-dental undergraduate with limited information about post-graduate programs. After reading this thread, I gained a lot of information about these programs. My only question to you and to anyone who is reading the thread, is there any GPR/ AEGD programs provided by University of Tennessee College of Dentistry? or anywhere in Tennessee?

Thank you in advance.
 
Hi Dr. Arms
Read all ur posts, found them very helpful. thanks. im an FTD [ Dentist from India ] and was planning to get into aegd program. started doing my research on whats the basic difference between dds and aegd. got some idea [ the basic difference being the licensure thing and also i guess the pay is less for aegd ppl ]
please correct me if im wrong. im planning to join this year and before i seriously start my prep, i wanted one last clear info on this. i would really appreciate if u can guide me about the job prospects after doing the aegd program and how much will be the salary ???
any more info u have on this topic will greatly benefit me. thanks in advance.
 
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